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Notes for Howard Sherman Dye

The Family of Howard Sherman Dye & Nellie Goodin

Sarah Dye thought birth date was March 27.

1870 census Carroll Twp., Vermilion Co., IL
Household 313/303
John Fisher, head, age 35, farmer, b. IL
Lou, age 34, keeping house, b. IL
Everett, age 8, b. IL
Charles, age 6
Eddie, age 4, b. IL
Milia, age 2, b. IL
Mattie, age 2 months, b. IL
Household 314/304
John Dye, age 46, farmer, b. KY
Hattie, age 38, keeping house, b. KY
John, age 12, farm labor, b. IL
Laura, age 11, b. IL
Lucy, age 9, b. IL
Annie, age 7, b. IL
George, age 5, b. IL
Willie., age 2, b. IL
Note - Mary Lucy "Lou" Fisher was the sister of John Samuel Dye who married Mahettable Gerrard. Although they are living next door to each other, the above John & Hattie Dye info is not consistent with the ages & children they should have at that time. I do not find them anywhere else in 1870, so it may be them with lots of census taker error. The family should be:
John Dye, age 32, b. KY
Mahettable, age 32, b. OH
Malinda (Lena), age 10
Thea Etta (Ettie), age 9
Ida, age 4
Howard Sherman, age 3
Bertha, age 1
Mahettable Gerrard Dye did have younger siblings with some of those names - but in 1870 her younger siblings would be ages:
John Gerrard, age 31
Benjamin Gerrard, age 28
Ellen Gerrard, age 24
Joseph Gerrard, age 21
Lucy Gerrard, age 19
George Gerrard, age 17

1880 Census Carrol Twp., Vermilion Co., IL Page Number 237B
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Hetta DYE Self M Female W 43 OH Keeping House OH OH
Howard S. DYE Son S Male W 13 IL KY OH Works In Brick Yard
Bertha L. DYE Dau S Female W 11 IL KY OH
Eura A. DYE Dau S Female W 9 IL KY OH
Flora B. DYE Dau S Female W 7 IL KY OH
Jennie E. DYE Dau S Female W 5 IL KY OH

February 18, 1896 - Howard married Mary Ellen "Nellie" Goodin

November 22, 1896 - son Thomas born
September 05, 1899 - son Lester born

1900 census Creswell, Cowley Co., KS June 19, 1900 page 6B
Howard S. Drye, head, Mar 1867, age 32, md 4 yrs, IL/Blank/Blank, farmer
Nellie, wife, Sept 1879, age 20, md 4 yrs, 2 births, 2 surviving children, MO/MO/MO
Thomas E. son, Nov 1896, age 3, KS/IL/MO
Lester A., son, Sept 1899, age 8 months, KS/IL/MO

Places & positions H.S. Dye held as a minister in Kansas in the Free Methodist Church:
1900 Caldwell & Argonia
1901 McPherson
1904 Halstead, Patterson, Newton

1905 state census Halstead, Harvey Co., Kansas
#2, starts on line 14
H. S. Dye, age 38, b. Illinois, came to Kansas from Illinois
Nellie Dye, age 25, b. Missouri, came to Kansas from Missouri
Thomy Dye, age 8, b. Kansas
Lester Dye, age 5, b. Kansas

Places & positions H.S. Dye held as a minister in Kansas in the Free Methodist Church:
1905-6 Kansas City
1907 Vassar and Michigan Valley
1908 Evangelist
1909 Girard, Roseland, and Wild Cat Schoolhouse

April 29, 1906 - daughter Pearl born

1910 Census Girard City, Crawford Co., KS.
143 No. Osage Household 143/144
Howard S. Dye, head, age 43, md 14 yrs, IL/KY/OH, minister, church
Nellie E., wife, age 31, md 14 yrs, 4 births, 3 surviving children, MO/MO/MO
Thomas E. son, KS/IL/MO
Lester A. son, age 10, KS/IL/MO
Howard S. Jr., son, age 1, KS/IL/MO

1910-11 Iola & Bronson
1912-14 Manhattan & Keats

1915 State Census Manhattan, Riley Co., Kansas
#112/119, starts on line 2
Ida A. Dye, age 6, b. Vermont, came to Kansas from Vermont, Housewife (who is this?)
Dennis Williams, age 17, b. Kansas
Ellen Williams, age 11, b. Kansas
#288/351, starts on line 15
Howard S. Dye, age 47, b. Illinois, came to Kansas from Illinois, Clergyman
Nellie E. Dye, age 35, b. Missouri, came to Kansas from Missouri
Thomas E. Dye, age18, b. Missouri, came to Kansas from Missouri, Student - -
Lester A. Dye, age 15, b. Missouri, came to Kansas from Missouri, Student - -
Howard S. Dye Jr., age 6, b. Kansas

1915-16 Emporia. He was ordained Elder in 1915.
1917-21 Superintendent Solomon & Manhattan Districts.

1920 Census McPherson, McPherson Co, KS
1413 Walnut St., household #132
Howard S. Dye, head, age 52, IL/IL/US, Clergyman, church
Nellie E., wife, age 40, MO/MO/MO
Thomas E., son, age 23, KS/IL/MO, Postal clerk, office
Howard S., son, age 11, KS/IL/MO
Eldon N., son, age 4, KS/IL/MO
Louis D., son, age 7 months, KS/IL/MO

1922 Superintendent Emporia & Wichita Districts.
1923-24 Salina

He was dropped from membership at the conference in 1925. Rumored that he traveled a lot, was having an affair with another woman and Nellie divorced him. After that he was asked to leave the church because of the divorce. He had a grocery store for a while and also had a truck garden and sold produce.

1930 census McPherson, McPherson Co., KS
318 North Ash St. Household #77/152, sheet 4B
Nellie E. Dye, head, age 50, widowed, MO/MO/MO, saleslady, retail dresses
Eldon, son, age 14
Lewis, son, age 10
4 "roomers"
610 East Marlin St. page 120, sheet 14A
Howard S. Dye, roomer in household of Emily A. Wray, age 63, divorced, IL/OH/OH, Retail Grocer, grocery

April 1, 1935 - McPherson, McPherson, Kansas (source: 1940 census)

1940 census McPherson, McPherson, Kansas
874 North Grimes Street Household #626
H. S. Dye, head, age 73, divorced, b. Illinois, Laborer, Anywhere


512 No. Main St. Household #462
Nellie Dye, head, age 59, divorced, b. Missouri, Sales Lady, House to House
Estes Hutson, lodger, age 80, widowed, b. Ohio, Old Age Assistance
Ira B. Michael, lodger, age 84, widowed, b. Ohio, Old Age Assistance

Ralph Helsel writes "My memory of him always brings to mind a cheerful & pleasant man. I stayed in McPherson as a freshman in High School attending Central Academy & College. I stayed half the year with B.F. Harmon and his wife. He was a business partner with my father (S.F. Helsel) and owed dad some in the closeout of the business. My board and room were payment for that debt. H.S. Dye would often come over, and he and Mr. Harmon would play dominoes. I could tell they were both very sharp at that game."

McPherson Daily Republican:
May 19, 1941
Howard Dye, 74, Is Dead
Howard Sherman Dye, 74, 512 North Main, died at his home at 5:30 o'clock yesterday morning. He had been ill since the first of the year. Mr. Dye came here from Emporia 25 years ago and was a minister.
He was born in Danville, Ill., March 26, 1867. He was married to Nellie Dye on Feb. 18, 1896 in Arkansas City. He was a member of the Nazarene church.
Mr. Dye is survived by the widow; five sons Thomas E., Hawaiian Islands; Lester A., Central City, Nebr.; Howard S., Washington D.C.; Eldon N., McPherson, and Lewis O., Oklahoma City and by three sisters, Mrs. Flora Kleffman, Springfield, Ohio; Mrs. B.L. Sellers, Danville, Ill., and Mrs. Ida Bone, Xenia, Ohio.
Funeral services were held at 2 o'clock this afternoon fro the Quiring Funeral Home, Rev. A.W. Hands of the Nazarene church officiating. Interment was in McPherson cemetery. Pallbearers for the service were Fred Wegley, W.F. Campbell, A.A. Schaad, Frank McGraw, Melvin Johnson and Clarence Willison.

Sept. 4, 1958
Hospitals: Admitted Sept. 3, Mrs. Nellie Dye, McPherson

Friday, September 5, 1958
Hospitals: Deaths Sept. 4, Mrs. Nellie Dye, 505 North Cedar

Nellie Dye, 78, Dies At Hospital
Mrs. Nellie Dye, 78, 512 North Main Street, died at 6:30 o'clock Thursday evening at the McPherson hospital following two years of failing health.
Mrs. Dye was born on Sept. 23, 1879 at Princeton, Mo., daughter of Thomas and Evaline Wiggins (note from K: this should have said daughter of Thomas and Evaline Wiggins Goodin). She was married on Feb. 18, 1896 to Howard Sherman Dye of Arkansas City. Mr. Dye died on May 18, 1941. She was a member of the Methodist church and had lived in McPherson for 42 years.
Survivors include five sons, Thomas E. Dye, Honolulu; Lester A. Dye, Denver; Howard S. Dye Jr., Orlando Fla; Eldon N. Dye, Wichita; and Lewis N. Dye, Duncan, Okla; one sister, Jennie Dimmick, Independence, Kas.; 15 grandchildren and 11 great-grandchildren.
Funeral services for Mrs. Dye will be held Monday, Sept. 8, at 2 p.m. at the Quiring Chapel with Rev. Paul Matthaei of the Methodist Church officiating. Friends may call at Quirings on Sunday from 3 to 5 p.m. Burial will be in McPherson cemetery.

I (Kari Northup) went to the cemetery in Dec. 1998 and took a picture of their headstone - they are buried together and their is a note in the cemetery records that Howard Sherman's grave was moved from a different location in the cemetery at some point so assume it was done so that Nellie could be buried beside him.