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Notes for Frederick Lawrence Thorne

The Families of Francis Edwin Thorn

1892 State census Douglas Co., Washington
F. E. Thorne, age 48, farmer, b. NY
Lulu, age 24, housewife, b. Michigan
Fred, age 4, b. Michigan
Mary, age 1, b. Michigan
Incorrectly indexed by Ancestry.com as being the 1885 census

1900 census Jocko Twp., Missoula Co., MT - census taken June 7, 1900
ED 71, page 2, Household #37
Francis E. Thorne, head, b. Oct 1843, age 57, married 13 years, NY\NY\PA, General Store
Lulu C., wife, b. June 1867, age 32, married 13 years, 4 births, 4 surviving children, MI\MI\IL
Frank, Son, b. March 1866, age 33, PA\NY\PA, Carpenter
Frederick L., Son, b. Oct. 1887, age 12, MI\NY\MI
Mary E., Daughter, b. Aug. 1890, age 9, MI\NY\MI
Chas. M., Son, b. April, 1894, age 6, WA\NY\MI
Mabel, Daughter, b. Aug. 1898, age 1, WA\NY\MI
Mary Barton, Servant, b. Sept 1789, age 21, IL\IN\IL, Servant Girl

1910 age 22

Abt. 1911 - Fred married Lottie Hubbard

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Washington State Birth Index, Prior to 1910 - 1919
Parent: Fred L Thorne
Name: Frank Edward Thorne
Location: King
Parent: Lottie Hubbard
Birth Date: 30 Jul 1916
Sex: M
Race: W
Washington State Birth Index, Prior to 1910 - 1919

Parent: Fred L Thorne
Name: Unnamed Thorne
Location: Seattle
Parent: Lottie Hubbard
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1918
Sex: M
Race: W

LDS film # 1612124
Seattle City Directory commencing May 1st 1916
Allen, Chas W (Ida M) grocer 601 21st h 523 do pg. 314
Allen, Wm (Mary) h 724 21st av pg. 317
Gillespie, Chas S (Florence E) gen contr r 724 21st av pg. 724
Spinney, David A (Ida M) Reliable House Mover, Grading and Foundation Work, General Contractor, Prompt Service, Good Work My Motto 7527 12th av NW Tel Ballard 1312 pg. 1446
Thorne, Fred L (Lottie) lineman h R D I pg. 1512

Commencing May 1st 1917 LDS film # 1612124 & # 1612125
Allen, Chas W (Ida M) (Allen & Henderson) h 523 21st av pg. 315
Allen, Wm (Mary) h 1815 23d av pg. 318
Gillespie, Chas S (Florence E) salsn h 1431 8th pg. 743
Spinney, David A (Ida M) house mover 7527 12th av NW h do
Could not find Fred & Lottie Thorne listed

June 5, 1917 WWI Draft card
Bremerton, Washington
Fred Lawrence Thorne
age 29
tall height, slender build, gray eyes, lt. brown hair, not bald
435-1/2 8th Bremerton, WA
born October 25, 1887 in Grand Rapids, Michigan
Occupation - laborer, Navy Dept, Navy Yard Puget Sound, WA
Claimed exemption due to Navy Yard employee and married with wife & 2 children under age 5

Commencing May 1st, 1918 LDS film # 1612125
Allen, Chas W (Ida M) (Allen & Henderson) h 523 21st ave pg. 317
Allen, Wm r 523 21st ave (I forgot to note the pg. #)
Gillespie, Chas S (Florence) ins agt h 7527 12th av NW pg. 807 (Note: this is the same address as David A. Spinney in 1917)
Peckham, Thos E (Mary) shipwkr h 225 W 39th pg. 1416
Could not find David A & Ida M. Spinney listed
Thorne, Fred L (Lottie) ship calker h 218 W Kilbourne pg. 1731
Thorne, Grace r 218 W Kilbourne pg. 1731 (Note she is Fred's sister)

Addresses on Civil War pension papers when his father went into the Washington Veteran's Home:
Jan 1918 - 225 W. 39Th St., Seattle, WA
21 Apr 1919 - 225 W. 39Th St., Seattle, WA

1920 census Seattle, King Co., WA, District 137,
Ancestry.com Image 4, 72nd Precinct, Line 62, Sheet 2 B:
4820 33rd Ave. West and they were Renting
Thorn, Fred L. Head age 32 MI MI MI Shop Work Carpenter
, Lottie Wife age 27 WA MI CA
, Elenor Marie Daug. age 8 ID MI CA
, Frank Edwin Son age 3 WA MI CA
, Fred Lawrence Jr. Son age 1 4/12 WA MI CA

5 Jan 1921 - Charleston, Kitsap Co., WA

1930 census Bingen, Klickitat Co., WA
Lottie Thorne, head, age 37, age at first marriage - 18 years, WA/MI/CA, Grader, Apples
Eleanor, daughter, age 18, ID/MI/WA, Laborer, Box Factory
Frank C., son, age 12, WA/MI/WA
Fred L., son, age 11, WA/MI/WA
Charlotte, daughter, age 9, WA/MI/WA
Ray M., son, age 8, WA/MI/WA
Virginia May, daughter, age 5, WA/MI/WA
William, son, age 4 months, WA/MI/WA,
S.A. Hubbard, mother, age 79, widowed, age at first marriage - 20, CA/MI/OH
Frank should be age 42 - where is he??

More About FRANK EDWIN THORNE:
Cremation: June 30, 1945, Pendleton-Gilchrist Funeral Home, Bremerton, Washington
Inf. I received from Rill Chapel on Frank Edwin Thorne showed that he was b. March 19, 1867. His relatives on record included Fred of Seattle, Charles of Cordova, AK and Robert of Kodiak, AK, Mary Robertson of Seattle, Mabel Burton of Yelm, WA, Grace Darbyshire of Everett, WA, G. Burton of Spanaway, WA and Maude Ketell of San Miguel, CA. They also stated he was a carpenter, widowed and resided in Retsil just outside of Port Orchard at time of death.
It seems that Frank followed his father.

From Betty Macdonald 8-9-06

Family Group Record for Fredrick Lawrence Thorne
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Husband Fredrick Lawrence Thorne 1
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Born: 25 Oct 1887
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
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Father: Francis Edwin Thorne (1843-1930)
Mother: Lulu Carrie Ingersoll (1868-1941)
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Marriage:
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Events
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1. Residence 1, R D I, Seattle, WA, 1 May 1916
2. Residence 2, Jan 1918 - 225 W. 39Th St., Seattle, WA
3. Residence 1, 218 W Kilbourne, Seattle, WA, 1 May 1918
4. Residence 2, 21 Apr 1919 - 225 W. 39Th St., Seattle, WA
5. Residence 2, 5 Jan 1921 - Charleston, WA
6. Residence 3, June 27, 1945 when Frank Edwin died - Seattle, WA
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Wife Lottie Hubbard
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Born: Abt 1893 - WA 4
Christened:
Died: Probably Mar. 14, 1968 - Spokane, Spokane County, Washington
Buried:
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Events
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1. Residence 6, 4 Jun 1967 when her sister Eva Robinson died - Spokane, Washington
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Children
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1 F Eleanor Marie Thorne 4
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Born: Abt 1912 - Idaho 7
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
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2 M Frank Edwin or Edward Thorne 4
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Born: 30 Jul 1916 - King, Washington 7 8
Christened:
Died: 30 Jul 1986 - Seattle, King Co., WA 9 10
Buried:
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3 M Fred Lawrence Thorne 4
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Born: 17 Aug 1918 - Seattle, Washington 7 8
Christened:
Died: 2 Mar 1984 - Seattle, King Co., WA 10
Buried:
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4 F Charlotte Thorne 7
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Born: Abt 1921 - Washington 7
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
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5 M Ray M. Thorne 7
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Born: Abt 1922 - Washington 7
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
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6 F Virginia May Thorne 7
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Born: Abt 1925 - Washington 7
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
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7 M William Thorne 7
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Born: Abt 1926 - Washington 7
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
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General Notes (Husband)
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Seattle City Directory for the year commencing May 1st 1916, LDS film # 1612124
Pg. 1512
Thorne, Fred L (Lottie) lineman h R D I

Seattle City Directory for the year commencing May 1st 1917, LDS film # 1612125
No listing for Fred L & Lottie Thorne

May 29, 2006, I found his WWI Draft Registration Card on Ancestry.com. Age 29, living at 435 1/2 8th St., Bremerton, WA, born Oct. 25, 1887 in Grand Rapids, Mich., Laborer for Navy Depot, Navy Yard Pruget S'd., married with 2 children under 5 yrs., Tall, Slender, Gray eyes, Light brown hair, registered on June 5, 1917.

Seattle City Directory for the year commencing May 1st 1918, LDS film # 1612125
Pg. 1731
Thorne, Fred L (Lottie) ship calker h 218 W Kilbourne
Thorne, Grace r 218 W Kilbourne

1920 census Seattle 72nd Precinct, King Co., Washington enumerated Jan. 3, 1920
4820 33rd Ave. West
Thorn, Fred L. Head age 32 MI MI MI Shop Work Carpenter
, Lottie Wife age 27 WA MI CA
, Elenor Marie Daug. age 8 ID MI CA
, Frank Edwin Son age 3 WA MI CA
, Fred Lawrence Jr. Son age 1 4/12 WA MI CA


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General Notes (Wife)
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1930 census Bingen, Klickitat Co., Washington enumerated April 2
Older Ct. Original Town
Thorn, Lottie Head 37 Married 18 Wash Mich Calif Grader Apples
, Eleanor Daug 18 Single Idaho Mich Wash Laborer Box factory
, Frank E. Son 13 Wash Mich Wash
, Fred L. Son 11 Wash Mich Wash
, Charlotte Daug 9 Wash Mich Wash
, Ray M. Son 8 Wash Mich Wash
, Virginia May Daug 5 Wash Mich Wash
, William Son 4 3/12 Wash Mich Wash
Hubbard, S. A. Mother 77 Wid Calif Mich OH Helper House work

Received an obit from Sue Robinson, July 16, 2000, for Eva Robinson:
Death Claims Eva Robinson
Mrs. Eva Robinson, 86, former long time resident of Coeur d' Alene died Sunday at a Spokane nursing home, following a long illness.
Mrs. Robinson was the widow of Cassius Robinson, one time Kootenai county commissioner who died in 1941 and lived in Coeur d' Alene from 1929 to 1959. She was born at Dixie, Wash., and was a member of the VFW auxilitary.
Survivors are a sister, Mrs. Lottie Thorn, Spokane; and several nieces and nephews.

Sue also stated "in our family tree, we have Eva Hubbard, b. Dec. 17, 1880 in Dixie, Walla Walla County, Washington State; d. June 4, 1967 in Spokane, Spokane County, Washington. Her husband was Cassius M. Clay Robinson, m. Feb. 27, 1904 in Rathdrum, Kootenai County, Idaho. Cassius died June 9, 1941 in Coeur d'Alene, Kootenai County, Idaho. They had no children, they homesteaded in Saskatchewan, Canada in October 1912."

From Ancestry.com - Washington deaths 1940-1996:
Name: Lottie Thorne Place of Death: Spokane City Date of Death: 14 Mar 1968 Residence: Spokane Gender: F Certificate: 007418

Last Modified: 9 Aug 2006

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Source Citations
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1. LDS film.
2. Civil War Record.
3. : 29 Apr 1999.
4. 1920 census.
5. Washington Death Index 1907-1996.
6. Obit.
7. 1930 census.
8. Washington State Birth Index, Prior to 1910-1919.
9. Social Sec. Death Index.
10. Washington Death Index, 1940-1996 on the Internett.


----- Original Message -----
From: Elizabeth Macdonald
To: Kari Northup
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 8:14 PM
Subject: Seattle City Directories

Here is what I found:

LDS film # 1612124
Seattle City Directory commencing May 1st 1916
Allen, Chas W (Ida M) grocer 601 21st h 523 do pg. 314
Allen, Wm (Mary) h 724 21st av pg. 317
Gillespie, Chas S (Florence E) gen contr r 724 21st av pg. 724
Spinney, David A (Ida M) Reliable House Mover, Grading and Foundation Work, General Contractor, Prompt Service, Good Work My Motto 7527 12th av NW Tel Ballard 1312 pg. 1446
Thorne, Fred L (Lottie) lineman h R D I pg. 1512

Commencing May 1st 1917 LDS film # 1612124 & # 1612125
Allen, Chas W (Ida M) (Allen & Henderson) h 523 21st av pg. 315
Allen, Wm (Mary) h 1815 23d av pg. 318
Gillespie, Chas S (Florence E) salsn h 1431 8th pg. 743
Spinney, David A (Ida M) house mover 7527 12th av NW h do
Could not find Fred & Lottie Thorne listed

Commencing May 1st, 1918 LDS film # 1612125
Allen, Chas W (Ida M) (Allen & Henderson) h 523 21st ave pg. 317
Allen, Wm r 523 21st ave (I forgot to note the pg. #)
Gillespie, Chas S (Florence) ins agt h 7527 12th av NW pg. 807 (Note: this is the same address as David A. Spinney in 1917)
Peckham, Thos E (Mary) shipwkr h 225 W 39th pg. 1416
Could not find David A & Ida M. Spinney listed
Thorne, Fred L (Lottie) ship calker h 218 W Kilbourne pg. 1731
Thorne, Grace r 218 W Kilbourne pg. 1731 (Note she is Fred's sister)

Then on the Internet - Distant Cousin.com/Directories/WA/Seattle on pg. 286 for 1923, I found:
Allen, Chas W (Ida) gro 601 21st av h 711 do

That seems to be the extend of the Thorne family in Seattle for those years. I did see Chas M Thorn for 1917 & 1918, but I am not sure if he is the one we want.

Betty

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From: Elizabeth Macdonald [mailto:emacdonald@media-net.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:33 PM
To: Kari Northup
Subject: Fred L. & Lottie Hubbard Thorne

I am not finding him in the 1910 census any where.

I found something interesting. A Lottie Hubbard married Sept. 25, 1911 in Coeur d'Alene, Kootenai Co., Idaho to a George Ledean. Can only find 2 George's 1895 In Iowa State Census, age 6, born Cedar Co., IA in Mechanicsville. The other George is in the 1920 census in Conn. & he is single. Who is he & what happened to him? Then there was a Mary Hubbard who married Aug. 16, 1902 in Rathdrum, Kootenai Co., ID to Charles B. Ledean. Mystery man here also.

Ledean is a very uncommon name it seems. The Conn. one says he was born in Canada.

I just wish I could find Fredrick in 1910. 1918 I found him in the Seattle City Directory.

Well, I need to hit the sack. This heat & humidity makes one so tired.
I just finished watering the new tree we planted this year & the lawn. Everything is so dry.

Betty