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Notes for Abraham Thorn

The Family of Langford Thorne & Mary Roe

"An Outline History of Orange County" by Samuel W. Eager Esq. (1846) There is a list of men in Cornwall, Bloominggrove, Monroe and part of Chester who served as commisioners, overseers or other officers in their towns between 1765 to 1775. The list includes the names of: William Thorn, Langford Thorn, William Roe and Elijah Carpenter. There is a copy of the list at:

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/orange/history/bcm1.htm

There is also a list of persons who signed the "Association in Cornwall" in 1775, which included Cornwall, Bloominggrove and Monroe. Names include:

William Roe
Obadiah Thorn
Benjamin Thorn
Daniel Thorn
Also mentioned were several Carpenters and Abasalom Townsend.

In another history on Orange County I found the same list with more explanation - apparently the town Associations were organized to support the Revolution and the Continental Congress that had been established in 1774, and not everyone signed the Association papers. In this second book they had a list of some of the men in Cornwall who refused to sign the Association list (they were in the minority), and Langford Thorn's name is on that list. I noticed the Obadiah Thorn because there is an older man named Obadiah Thorn who settled in Chemung County later near John & Ann Carpenter Thorn.

1790 census, New Cornwall, Orange Co., NY
Langford Thorn
2 males over 16 (Langford, about age 55; Daniel, age 20-30 , born between 1760-1770. He married Mary Vandel in 1795, so probably closer to 20)
1 male under 16 (Abraham, age 1-15, born between 1775-1789? Probably closer to 15)
5 females (Mary, about age 55, Lusanna, age ?? and 3 other females???? Lusanna only daughter mentioned in Langford's will in 1807.)
Next door neighbors were James Bush and Isaac Laurence.

Other names I noticed were:
Joseph Thorn
Zeno Carpenter
William Titus
Nicholas Townsend
Henry Townsend
William Townsend
Lots of Clarks

1800 THORNE LANGFORD Orange County NY 393 00101-00100-10 Federal Population Schedule NY 1800 Federal Census Index NYS1a3151141

Langford Thorne was born about 1735 in Flushing, Long Island, NY. He died in 1807 in New York City. He had an estate probated on 7 Oct 1807 in Orange County, NY. The will was written on 10 Jun 1807. Wil Liber D, page 20.

Witnesses were Oliver Hude, Drake Fowler and Timothy Witmore. By his Grandfather's will Langford recieved a plantation in Goshen, Orange Co., NY., where he became a prominent & wealthy Quaker. At his death in 1807 he owned a mansion house on Pearl St in NYC. The Cornwall Friends Church property were purchased from Langford Thorne & his Wife Mary Thorne, by Joseph Thorne, Nicholas Townsend & William Titus. This is no doubt that Langford & Mary Thorne.

He was married to Mary Roe (daughter of Roe) on 7 Oct 1763. Langford Thorne and Mary Roe had the following children:

839 i. Daniel Thorne.
840 ii. Abraham Thorne.
841 iii. female Thorne.

Will written June 10, 1807. Proven August 1, 1807.

In the name of God Amen I Langford Thorn of Cornwall in the County of Orange in the State of New York Yeoman being weak in body but of sound and perfect mind and memory blessed be almighty God for the same. Do make and publish this my last will and Testament in manner and form following (that is to say) First I bequeath my soul to God who gave it and my body to the grave to be buried in a decent manner at the discretion of my Executors hoping for a blessed immortality through the merits of my dear redeemer and as to the worldly estate wherewith God has blessed me, I give & bequeath in manner following. First having already provided for my son Daniel Thorn I give him five pounds - Item I give and bequeath to my son Abraham Thorn a certain bond I have against my said son Daniel Thorn on which due about five hundred dollars. Item I give to my son in Law John Eastmond my watch and to his wife my dear daughter my bed and all thereunto appertaining - Item all the residue of my goods and chattels and moveable estate I give and bequeath to my said son Abraham Thorn & my said son in Law John Eastmond to be equally divided between them they paying or after first paying out of it all my just debts, funeral charges, and the charges of selling my estate but I except my riding horse which I give solely to said John Eastmond. Item I further give devise and bequeath to my said son in Law John Eastmond his heirs and assigns all that my ? or tenement situate lying or being in Pearl Street in the City of New York joyning the old Ship (so called) with the mansion house and all buildings and improvements thereon with all and singular the adjustments and hereditaments thereunto to Have and to Hold to him the said John Eastmond and his heirs or assigns pay to my said son Abraham Thorn out of said Estate or to his executors administrators or assigns the sum of two hundred and fifty Dollars current Lawful money of the United States within six months after my decease. Item an estate I claim at Flushing on Long Island in Queens County in the state of New York and all the residue of my estate wheresoever & whatsoever not herein before given and devised I give and devise to my sons and son-in-law to be equally divided among them to hold to each & each of their heirs and assigns an equal share forever. Lastly I hereby constitute and appoint my said son-in-Law John Eastmond and Benjamin Armitage of N. York Merc. Executors of this my last will and Testament hereby revoking all former wills by me made - In Witness of whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this tenth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seven. Signed sealed published and declared by the above named Langford Thorn to be his last will and Testament in the presence of us who at his request and in his presence have hereunto subscribed our names as Witnesses to the same the word (hundred) over the word (thousand) erased being first ? and also the word (forever) and the words (of New York)
Oliver Hyde
Drake Fowler
Timothy Witmore
Langford Thorne

Orange County: Be it remembered that on the first day of August in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seven personally came and appeared before me James Easell Surrogate of the said County of Orange Timothy Witmore, and being duly sworn upon his oath declared that he did see Langford Thorne deceased sign and seal the written instrument then shown unto him of which the preceding is a true copy purporting to be the last will and Testament of the said deceased bearing date the tenth day of June last and heard him publish and declare the same as and for his last will and Testament that at the same time thereof he the said deceased was of sound mind and memory to the best of the knowledge and belief of him the deponent and that he together with Oliver Hyde and Drake Fowler subscribed their names thereunto as Witnesses in the Testators presence and in the presence of each other.
The preceding is a true copy of the original will of Langford Thorne deceased of the certificate of the proof thereof and the Letters Testamentary Hereon.
Benjamin Everett Surrogate

----- Original Message -----
From: <FPGP118@aol.com>
To: <KNorthup@home.com>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Langford Thorn


> Kari: Thanks for your quick reply. I'm sure this is the same line due to
the
> following: I am a direct descendant of John Eastmond and Lusanna/Susanna Thorne and have several papers from John wherein he has written queries regarding Langford Thorne's Will and questions "IN THAT CASE WOULD NOT ABRAHAM THORNE LOSE A PROPORTION OF HIS LEGACY?" And an epitaph for Mary Thorne, wife of Langford Thorne. Also, John signed in 1856, what he called his family register and states "ON THE 25th AUGUST 1797, I MARRIED LUSANNA, THE DAUGHTER OF LANGFORD THORNE OF NEW CORNWALL, COUNTY OF ORANGE AND STATE OF NEW YORK.
OUR 1st CHILD LANGFORD GILBERT, 1 MAR 1800 - AUG, 1800 DIED OF INFLAMMATION OF THE BRAIN,
HENRY, 2 FEB 1802-NOV 1829 OR 1830. LOST AT SEA ON HIS WAY TO MOBILE, ALABAMA.
> EDWARD, (THIS IS MY LINE) 30 JAN 1804 - 30 APR 1873,
> BENJAMIN 27 FEB 1810 -,
> MARTHA 23 MAY 1812 - 23 NOV 1848 DIED OF DEBILITY,
> LANGFORD 22 MAY 1814 - 23 NOV 1849,
> MARY 23 AUG 1816 - APR 1848 DIED OF SMALL POX,
> CHARLES 15 JAN 1818 - APR 1848 IN THE GOLD RUSH IN SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA.
> ON 19 FEB 1820 LUSANNA DIED OF CONSUMPTION. In all they had 8 children.
>
> Your information of Langford and Mary living in New York and having a son Abraham and a daughter Susanna dying Feb 1820, the same month and year is too coincidental for it not to be them. The date of 10 or 19 February could just be an error and I came up with Lusanna, due to handwriting. The L in Langford and the beginning of the name for Susanna looked too much like an L instead of an S. But I have no proof otherwise unless you do. I'm very eager to hear further from you regarding this info. I too, have been in constant contact with Eilene Thompson in SLC, Utah, and a Dan Eastmond from South Dakota, regarding the family and they both are from Johns second marriage to
Margaret Lawrence. I have quite a lot of info on John and the family as my Great Great Grandfather Edward 1804 was Johns executor and he kept all papers of Johns. I grew up in Monmouth County, New Jersey and have found John's family burial ground, which was on the family farm, and have pictures of John's oblisque.
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> If you would have any pictures, I am very interested and if you would, send me copies, which I'd be more than glad to pay for? I have a picture of John and if your interested I'll scan it to you. My family have never seen a picture of my grandfather Garrett Edward 1880-1937 on back. Except now for John and Margaret, which Eilene Thompson was kind enough to share with me. I would love to see Lusanna/Susanna or any of the family pictures if there are any that exist.
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> Thank you so much for responding to me and I hope this info will be helpful to you. I'm looking forward to hearing back from you.
>
> Please respond to fpgp118@aol.com, thanks, ginny
>
From: <FPGP118@aol.com>
To: <EMACDONALD@media-net.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 5:51 PM
Subject: THORNES


> BETTY: THANKS FOR CONTACTING ME AND THANKS FOR THE PICTURES. I'M TRYING TO PUT EVERYTHING IN ORDER WITH THE NAMES. CAN YOU PROVIDE ME WITH DATES. I DON'T HAVE MUCH ON THE THORNE'S EXCEPT LANGFORD, HIS WIFE MARY ROE AND THE 3 CHILDREN.
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> I'LL FILL YOU IN WITH MY LINE - LANGFORD THORNE'S DAUGHTER, WHO WAS A SISTER OF ABRAHAM AND DANIEL, MARRIED JOHN EASTMOND ON 25 AUG 1797. THEY HAD 8 CHILDREN. THE THIRD CHILD WAS EDWARD EASTMOND 1804, HIS SON EDWARD 1843
HAD A SON GARRETT EDWARD 1880 AND HAD A SON EDWARD 1909 WHO WAS MY FATHER.
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> LUSANNA DIED 10 FEB 1820 AND JOHN MARRIED A MARGARET LAWRENCE AND HAD 7 MORE CHILDREN. JOHN CAME FROM ENGLAND IN 1794-5 AND LIVED IN NEW CORNWALL AND THEN NEW YORK, AND THEN MIDDLETOWN, MONMOUTH COUNTY, NEW JERSEY. THAT IS WHERE I WAS BORN AND LIVED UNTIL 4 YEARS AGO. THERE IS A FAMILY CEMETERY IN MIDDLETOWN, OR PORT MONMOUTH AS IT IS NOW CALLED, AND JOHN ALONG WITH MARGARET AND 26 OTHERS ARE BURIED THERE. BUT NOT LUSANNA. I WONDER IF YOU WOULD HAVE HER BIRTH DATE AND PLACE OF BURIAL. IN SOME OF THE LETTERS I HAVE JOHN WROTE TO HIS SON EDWARD, AND LUSANNA WAS WITH EDWARD IN NEW YORK AND WAS VERY ILL, JOHN ADVISED EDWARD TO KEEP HIS MOTHER THERE UNTIL SHE COULD MAKE THE JOURNEY HOME. THAT WAS IN LATE 1819 OR EARLY 1820 AND SHE DIED IN MAY, 1820. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE DIED WHILE WITH EDWARD OR IF SHE DID MAKE IT HOME AND DIED. BUT SHE IS NOT BURIED ON THE FAMILY PROPERTY.
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> THE FARM HOUSE IS STILL STANDING AND LIVED IN. IT'S IN COMMENDABLE CONDITION. I'M GOING TO NEW JERSEY IN LATE MAY UNTIL MID JUNE AND HAVE PLANS TO CONTACT THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE HOUSE. THE PICTURE OF THE HOUSE AND THE PEOPLE
(IF YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT) REMAIN NAMELESS AT THIS TIME. I ALSO HAVE PLANS TO CONTACT A MAN WHO IS RELATED TO MY HUSBAND AND KNEW THE EASTMOND'S QUITE WELL. HOPEFULLY HE WILL BE ABLE TO PUT A NAME ON AT LEAST ONE OF THEM.
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> FROM JOHN'S SECOND MARRIAGE, ONE OF HIS SONS (ELBERT) MARRIED AND LEFT NJ FOR UTAH AND THE MORMON'S. HIS FAMILY REMAINS THERE STILL AND I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH A DECENDANT. SHE HAS BEEN GREAT. SHE'S IS THE PERSON THAT PROVIDED ME WITH THE PICTURE OF JOHN AND MARGARET LAWRENCE. AND I WILL BE GLAD TO SEND A COPY OF JUST JOHN TO YOU. HE WAS QUITE A GUY! VERY INTELLIGENT AND SPOKE AND WROTE LATIN, FRENCH AND ENGLISH. HE THEN BECAME AN
ACCOUNTANT AND THEN A LAWYER. HE PLAYED THE VIOLIN AND LOVED MUSIC, MATHEMATICS AND FARMING. SOMEHOW THEY DON'T SEEM TO GO TOGETHER, BUT IT WAS A GENTLEMAN'S FARM HE ENJOYED, PLANTS AND FLOWERS.
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> HE WAS INFLUENTIAL HAD CONSIDERABLE MONEY FOR THE TIME, WITH HOUSEKEEPERS AND THE YOUNGER CHILDREN IN PRIVATE SCHOOLS. HE WOULDN'T DO THAT FOR HIS OLDER CHILDREN. HE TAUGHT THEM HIMSELF AND MADE THEM LEARN TO READ AND WRITE LATIN, FRENCH AND ENGLISH.
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> WELL, I HOPE THIS WILL HELP YOU OUT. IF YOU NEED ANY ADDITIONAL INFO, PLEASE CONTACT ME. I DO HAVE SOME MORE LETTERS WHERE JOHN MENTIONS DANIEL TO HIS SON. DID DANIEL MARRY DEBBIE? JOHN MENTIONS HER OFTEN WHEN TALKING ABOUT DAN. THERE WAS ALSO A DANIEL WOOD THAT EDWARD LIVED WITH AND WORKED FOR AND THE DEBBIE MIGHT BE FROM THAT RELATIONSHIP.
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> WELL, GOOD MAKING THIS CONTACT. TALK TO YOU AGAIN. GINNY