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MISCELLANEOUS LEVI M. MACK DATA Subject: Mack notes Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 19:13:13 -0700 From: "William E. Dickinson" <canistota@kalama.com> To: "AA Dickinson, Laurel" <canistota@kalama.com> Well according to that article, Levi Mack claimed to have been born in Lebanon, Maidson, NY. Now from any family, all they knew was NY. I really think it was him that came from Ireland, and claimed the NY birth, but what I think, beings he was just a teenager, was that he either actually took up with a Mack family, or claimed them with out their knowledge. We really don't know what his actual Irish name was, have heard McCullogh, and other name such as that. The name Charles Levi has cropped up a few times, so we think that he probably was a Charles Levi ????, and then changed the name to Levi M Mack, beings he was not in he country legally. Anyway, a lot of mystery and a lot of things do not make sense. the last known thing about him was on the 1880 census where he was in Grundy county, MO, and that was the last known thing about his wife Clarissa. They had 3 sons, Levi, Eugene and Jerome. The last thing and really only thing known about Eugene was also he was on that census. On the census, wherever there is a Levi Mack or LM Mack as was on 1870, he claims NY, and parents NY, but on the 1900 census, his son claimed father born in Ireland, and it is also what it says on the son's death cert.
Anyway, will keep in touch, Pat Subject: Mack notes Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 19:19:58 -0700 From: "William E. Dickinson" <canistota@kalama.com> To: "William E. Dickinson" <canistota@kalama.com> Pat Kirchoff wrote:
Now as to Levi Mack, the only one that fits anything on the 1880 census, is the one I know without a doubt is my Levi M mack, and he is the one is Missouri. I checked the entire US census for 1880, and there is not another one anywhere that would fit at all. Now I had sent this before but will copy it again, anyway, I still have not been able to get any record of the death or anything of the Levi Mack mentioned, that almost has to be ours, or if we are speaking of Levi Macks, one of them for sure, and it would seem a very strange coincidence as rural Dale, MO is in Grundy couty. I know in 1870, he appeared in Livingstone County, but it is next to Grundy, and then in 1880 he was in Grundy County. After that he and his wife and their son Eugene were simply lost. Family story was that Levi walked in the woods one day, and was never seen again, well, I know tht could mean, never seen alive, but doesn't mean for sure tht they never found his body and so on and so forth, so it sure would be nice to find out something about the one who supposedly died in Sioux City IA. Also it is believed by all of the Mack family that he was born in Ireland, and jumped ship in the US when he was about 16, and he did become a Baptist preacher. The idea of Ireland goes back anyway. Levi is always listed everywhere as being born NY, and ours did claim NY birth, but the after he was no longer living, on the later census of Jerome, his son, he gave Ireland as this father's birth place. Going by what you and I each have, we can pretty much fit him into the following info.
From: CPeterson@mail.colgate.edu (Carl Peterson) To: PKirchh663@aol.com ('PKirchh663@aol.com') CC: FGavett@mail.colgate.edu (Frank Gavett)
According to our records Levi M. Mack attended the Hamilton Literary & Theological Institute (an early form of Colgate) from 1829 through 1830. He was born on Jan. 29, 1810 in nearby Lebanon, N.Y. He was ordained in harford, PA on Sept. 14, 1831 and evidently had a church in Lenox, PA until 1834, when he did missionary work in IN from 1834-1836. He had another church in Lodi, Ohio until 1846, then more missionary work in Michigan until 1850. He returned to NY and preached at Patterson until 1852. Then Providence, RI until 1856. More missionary work in WI from 1856-1864, then IA until 1870, then Missouri, residing in Rural Dale. Died Sioux City, IA, March 15, 1885. Carl Peterson Univ. Archivist Well according to that article, Levi Mack claimed to have been born in > Lebanon, Maidson, NY. Now from any family, all they knew was NY. I really > think it was him that came from Ireland, and claimed the NY birth, but what I > think, beings he was just a teenager, was that he either actually took up > with a Mack family, or claimed them with out their knowledge. We really > don't know what his actual Irish name was, have heard McCullogh, and other > name such as that. The name Charles Levi has cropped up a few times, so we > think that he probably was a Charles Levi ????, and then changed the name to > Levi M Mack, beings he was not in he country legally. Anyway, a lot of > mystery and a lot of things do not make sense. the last known thing about him > was on the 1880 census where he was in Grundy county, MO, and that was the > last known thing about his wife Clarissa. They had 3 sons, Levi, Eugene and > Jerome. The last thing and really only thing known about Eugene was also he > was on that census. On the census, wherever there is a Levi Mack or LM Mack > as was on 1870, he claims NY, and parents NY, but on the 1900 census, his son > claimed father born in Ireland, and it is also what it says on the son's Ø death cert. Subject: Re: [LIN] New Mailing List Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 06:10:13 EST From: GmaPatK@aol.com To: canistota@kalama.com Do passenger ship lists include crew members? I haven’t had much experience with them, or luck with what I have tried, anyway, our Levi was supposed to have been a crew member, (probably with idea in mind all the time, to jump ship in the US). He was supposed to have been about 16 at the time, so would have been about 1836 I guess. I remember of seeing a few other Levi Macks here and there on the census papers, ones I know could not have been him, but would be curious to see what background they were from. I had a snail mail from one of my cousins, who was into genealogy unitl her health got severe. I asked her about Levi. She said she would take the idea of a name change with a grain of salt, and she believed his name to have been Levi Montogomery Mack. She said she thinks he claimed NY birth because he had no papers. She got info from two of his grandsons, long ago dead, and she is not young herself, so I also take what she says with a grain of salt. we had always heard of him having 3 wives, but now she says 5, and 23 children, and that he was a quick tempered man, but that is all just going on something somebody said to somebody many many years ago, so who knows. Other grand daughters had his name as Charles Levi Mack too, and had it written that he changed his name. Copied and pasted from the web site. Camden (Center) Baptist Church History as recorded in the 1935 "Centennial Souvenir " pamphlet On the 22nd day of August, 1835, a little company of Christian men and women met in a log school house, situated about three-quarters of a mile from where our church now stands, for the purpose of organizing a church. Neighboring towns had been settled before Camden, churches were organized, associations were formed and missionaries sustained in their mist, but here there forest had remained unbroken until two years previous, when five families had found their way into its depths for the purpose of building for themselves and their children, homes, schools and churches, and civilizations. Among them were lover of the Lord, and mindful of the promise that where tow or three are gathered together in His name, Christ is in their mist, they held a little prayer meeting at the home of one of their number, and bravely and hopefully faced the discomforts of the long lonely winter in the woods. The second year more than doubled the size of the little settlement, and it became a notable one in its religious history inasmuch as the first Sunday School was organized that summer. Let us right here give due honor to our fathers in that thus early in the history of their settlement, they paused in the busy work of building their homes and clearing farms ---- paused, even in the busy summer days to build a school house, the forerunner and harbinger of advanced civilization so soon to be found in their midst, and upon first Sunday after its completion, with the July sunshine falling about them in bright flecks, as it glinted through the leaves of the surrounding trees, they transferred their prayers meeting to this primitive temple of learning. After the prayer meeting, they gathered the children together into a Sunday School --- five little lads and lassies. A sweet voiced sister sang---- " Come Holy Spirit, Heavenly Dove, With all thy quickening powers, Kindle a flame of scared love In these cold hearts of ours." Can we doubt that that prayer ascended straight to the ears of our Father, and that the Heavenly Dove, thus invoked, nestled in each heart? Or that the flame was kindled from above upon the alter there erected from which an incense of love and service has not ceased to burn from that day to this? In a few weeks every child in the settlement, twelve or fifteen in all, was numbered among the pupils of the school. It was undenominational in character, but with the understanding that it should belong to first church organization in the town. Early the following spring, Harrison Hurd lost a little child. Wishing a Baptist minister to preach the funeral sermon, he sent to Avon for Rev. Levi Mack, a home missionary employed by the Huron Association. This good man came, and not only comforted the hearts of the stricken parents with sweet words of Christian hope, but sought other work for the Master. He found among the settlers and Sunday School workers, several Baptist families. He interested himself in their behalf and a few months later, on the 22nd of August 1835, organized a Baptist Church with these seven constitute members: Mr. William Cook, Mr. And Mrs. Harrison Hurd, Mr. And Mrs. Huldah Spencer. Brother Hurd was appointed deacon, and in behalf of the church received the hand of fellowship, given by Elder Mack. Brother Cook was appointed clerk, and Brother Hovey delegated to Huron Association to held in La Grange in September. Of course they were to few in number and too poor to sustain regular preaching, but as heretofore they held on each Sabbath, service of prayer and conference in connected with their Sabbath School. The denomination of the school was now determined, but still all Christians worked together. We learn of many being earnest workers in its ranks, who later, became identified with the Disciple and the other churches. The first and second convenant meetings, three others, Mr. And Mrs. Gideon Waugh and Mrs. Maria Cook, who by this time obtained letters from their old churches, joined the young church, thus increasing its membership to ten during the year. On Sunday, October 12, Elder Mack came among them again and it is recorded that "He preached and broke bread to the church." What a season of refreshing to the little band --- their first sermon! I wonder if this was not the text, "Fear not, little flock, it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom." And their first communion! How sweetly solemn must the words have sounded, spoken amid those wild surroundings, "Do this as oft as ye do it, in remembrance of me." Yes, they could forget their rough life, their lonely homesick hours, and remember for the time, only Christ, their sympathizing Savior...... (Much more to come - check back again) Subject: Re: Mack Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:10:01 EST From: GmaPatK@aol.com To: canistota@kalama.com I already wrote to them as I had found it on the web on their site, which contained their beginning history, but so far have no heard back from them. I have written Hamilton College, and the only info they said they had at all was that brief pargraph I had already sent you. Being he was in missionary work according to it, then I think he could have well been that same person. I have information for a researcher doing searches in Baptist church work, but I cant afford that, as they wanted an extreme amount of money. I have someone in Kewaunee County WI trying to look for mentions of him and mentions of his marriage to my Clarissa Eveland in 1861, but so far she hasn't found anything. I already had records of 3 marriages he performed there in Kewaunee County. Subject: Re: Mack Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:49:32 EST From: GmaPatK@aol.com To: canistota@kalama.com Well, it has only been a day, so may take some time to respond. I have a time line chart with all mentions of him in all places. I also have a search in for Kossuth County, as I am positive that that one for sure is mine as the land records were for Levi and Clarissa, and we knew they had lived in Iowa, because the youngest son was born in Iowa, but where we dont know, anyway, I have a search for them their and for birth records. I haven't been able to find out who Clarissas family was either or what happened to her. She was married twice before also,once to a benschoten, who I have some info for, and once to Daniel Eveland, and I havent out who is family was. She had a son by each of them. He was a tricky old fellow alright. He was supposed to have had at least 22-23 kids, and if we are both looking for the same guy, then we have your Mary Ellen, and my Jerome and Levi. I dont even kow what happened to their brother. Worst thing is Jerome's son married Levi's daughter, and they were my grandparents, so that is both sides of the family stuck on mysterious Levi M. |