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Generation No.1. GREEN3 CARVER (JOHN2, WILLIAM1)1 was born 09 Jan 1828 in Person Co., NC2, and died 30 Dec 1904 in PICKENS CO., ALA2. He married (1) LOUISE POWELL Abt. 1847 in PICKENS CO., ALA, daughter of LUCY. She was born Abt. 1827 in NC, and died Abt. 1853 in PICKENS CO., ALA. He married (2) MARTHA STAPP 21 Nov 1855 in PICKENS CO., ALA, daughter of WILLIAM STAPP and MARY MAXWELL. She was born 01 Mar 1836 in Alabama3, and died 14 Jan 1896 in PICKENS CO., ALA. He married (3) NANNIE MASSENGILL BARNES Abt. 1900.

Notes for GREEN CARVER:
ACCORDING TO GREEN'S GRAND-DAU, HE AND PARENTS CAME FROM WAKE CO., N.C., OR RALEIGH, N.C., ABOUT 1836 (WHEN GREEN WAS ABOUT 8 OR 9). [ACTUALLY IS ABOUT 1833] THEY WERE WITH ANOTHER GROUP OF SETTLERS; STOPPED FIRST AROUND ELYTON AND THEN ON TO PICKENS CO. [Actually, the Carvers were from Person Co., NC. It is entirely possible, however, that their trek to Alabama originated in Raleigh, NC. The small community in which this branch of Carvers settled was called "RALEIGH", supposedly after the place they came from in NC.] JOHN CARVER, OF AN AGE TO BE GREEN'S FATHER IS SHOWN IN THE 1840 CENSUS OF PICKENS CO, BUT IS DECEASED BY 1850, AT WHICH TIME HIS MOTHER NANCY CARVER, IS SHOWN AS LIVING NEAR GREEN. IN THE 1850 CENSUS, GREEN LISTS HIMSELF AS BEING AGE 22, A FARMER, PROPERTY VALUE IS $300. IN THE 1860 CENSUS HE LISTS HIMSELF AS A GROCER, PROP VALUE AT $5000. HIS MOTHER, NANCY, DIED IN 1855. GREEN SERVED WITH MCCAA RANGERS, CO. "D", 8TH CONFED REGT CAVALRY. MUSTERED INTO SERVICE NOV 14, 1861. THEY SERVED UNDER GEN. JOE WHEELER. GREEN WAS LISTED AT MUSTER AS 3RD SGT. LATER HE IS LISTED AS BEING IN CO. "I" OF THE 7TH ALA. CAV., UNDER COMMAND OF COLONEL HODGSON'S REG., OF THE NATHAN BEDFORD FORREST BRIGADE. RECORDS INDICATED THAT HE FURNISHED HIS OWN HORSE....AND A VALUABLE ONE, AT THAT.

McCaa Rangers: Co. "D, 8th Regt Cavalry; mustered: Nov 14, 1861.

Green Carver, 3rd Sgt
J. H. Carver...son of Green Carver
S. A. Carver
G. W. Carver
J. T. Hughes
V. W. Jones, relation of Stapps
Mabry Noland....son of Samuel Noland; died early in war
J. T. Stapp..died early in war...brother of Ann Stapp
James Turner ...son-in-law of Samuel Noland

7TH ALA CAV, CO. "I", under command of Nathan Bedford Forrest:
James Ballard
Green Carver
John Clayton
Jack Clayton
Doc Clayton
Thomas Goodson
Wash Stapp
John Stapp

GREEN MARRIED THIRD TO NANNIE AND THEY AGREED THAT WHEN THEY DIED, THEIR RESPECTIVE PROPERTY WOULD GO TO THEIR OWN CHILDREN. HOWEVER, HE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN WRITING. GREEN DIED FIRST AND NANNIE CLAIMED ALL HIS PROPERTY AS HERS. GREEN'S HEIRS PROTESTED AND FOUGHT IT, BUT THE WIDOW PREVAILED. THEY WERE VERY BITTER ABOUT IT FOR YEARS.

1850 CENSUS OF PICKENS COUNTY, ALA

1571-1615 GREEN CARVER 27 FARMER 300 NC
LOUISA CARVER 23 NC
JOHN W. CARVER 2
JOSEPH CARVER 6/12

1572-1616 LEVI CARVER 25 FARMER NC
DORCAS CARVER 23
HENRY CARVER 1

1615-1661 JOHN CARVER 31
MARY
WILLIAM 4
COLUMBUS 3

1617-1664 WILLIAM CARVER 33
MARY
JAMES 9
JOSEPH 3
LUCY POWELL 60

1619-1665 NANCY CARVER 63

1620 - 1666 JOHN R. CLATON 72
FRANCES 60

1621 - 1667 A. G. CLAYTON 26
MARTHA 16
MARY


IN 1833/1835 TIME FRAME, THE CARVERS (FROM PERSON CO, NC) MOVED INTO AND TOOK LAND IN THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PRESENT LOCATION OF LIBERTY PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH. TO THE SE, ADJOINING CHURCH PROPERTY, WAS JOHN CARVER. TO THE NW, ADJOING CHURCH PROPERTY WAS WILLIAM W. CARVER (JOHN'S SON). TO THE NE OF CHURCH PROPERTY, STANFORD CARVER (JOHN'S SON) ACQUIRED LAND IN 1837. THIS LAND IS WHERE JAMES MONROE CARVER, GRANDSON OF JOHN CARVER AND SON OF GREEN CARVER, LATER LIVED.

ABOUT 1837, JOHN CARVER AND HIS FAMILY WERE LISTED AMONG THE FOUNDERS OF LIBERTY PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH. THE FIRST CEMETERY FOR THAT CHURCH WAS LOCATED IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE FIRST CHURCH...WHICH ITSELF WAS LOCATED SLIGHTLY TO THE WEST OF THE PRESENT CHURCH BLDG. ACCORDING TO "OLD TIMERS", INTERVIEWED BEFORE 1960, THE FIRST CHURCH HAD DIRT FLOORS WHEN IT WAS FIRST FOUNDED AND BUILT. THEY WERE UNSURE WHEN THE SECOND CHURCH WAS BUILT OR WHY. PERHAPS THE FIRST CHURCH BURNED. IT IS THOUGHT THAT JOHN CARVER AND HIS WIFE, NANCY, WERE BURIED IN THE ORIGINAL CEMETERY ALTHO THERE ARE NO LONGER STONES THERE... AND THE GROUND IS BEING FARMED BY SOMEONE. [THIS INFO FROM A DESCENDANT OF JOHN CARVER]. STILL ANOTHER DESCENDANT OF JOHN CARVER STATED THAT WHEN SOMEONE NAMED BURKHALTER ACQUIRED THE OLD CEMETERY PROPERTY, THE STONES WERE TAKEN UP AND STACKED UNDERNEATH A LARGER TREE ON THE PROPERTY. THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY WAS FARMED. JOHN CARVER DIED IN 1848 [PER CHURCH RECORDS] AND NANCY DIED IN 1855 [PER CHURCH RECORDS]. THE CURRENT LIBERTY CHURCH CEMETERY LAND WAS GIVEN TO THE CHURCH PRIOR TO 1896 BY JOHN'S SON, GREEN CARVER, B. 1828, D. 1904, AND THE FIRST ONE BURIED THERE WAS HIS 2ND WIFE: MARTHA STAPP CARVER, IN 1896.

TO THE EAST OF THE CHURCH, SAME ROAD, AND VERY NEAR TO THE CHURCH, WERE SEVERAL OLD HOMES. THE FIRST HOUSE, A LOG HOUSE IS WHERE GREEN CARVER AND MARTHA STAPP CARVER LIVED IN 1871 WHEN THEIR THIRD DAUGHTER, MOLLIE CARVER, WAS BORN [PER HER GRANDDAUGHTER]. PERHAPS THIS WAS ORIGINALLY THE HOME OF JOHN CARVER AND NANCY CARVER [GREEN'S PARENTS]. CERTAINLY, THE ORIGINAL LAND OF JOHN'S WAS THIS AREA. IN ALL PROBABILITY, GREEN CARVER RAISED ALL HIS CHILDREN IN THIS HOUSE. HIS FIRST FOUR CHILDREN WERE: JOSEPH, B. 1849; JOHN, B. 1848; JAMES, B. 1851 AND NANCY, B. 1853. BY HIS SECOND MARRIAGE (IN 1855) HE HAD THREE DAUGHTERS: ANN ELIZABETH, B. 1866; SALLY, B. 1867 AND MOLLY, B. 1871. WE KNOW THAT JAMES MONROE CARVER [MARRIED HANNAH SALENIA LOVE, DAU OF ROBERT B. LOVE] WOULD LATER LIVE DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE CHURCH [FORMERLY LAND PURCHASED BY BROTHER STANFORD CARVER] AND HOUSES #1 (GREEN'S HOUSE] AND HOUSE #2 (POSTELL STAPP'S HOUSE, LATER LESTER NOLAND'S HOUSE], WHERE HE RAISED HIS FAMILY. I NOTE IN RECORDS THAT THIS AREA IS REFERRED TO AS THE RALEIGH COMMUNITY. JIM CARVER WAS THE PREACHER AT LIBERTY CHURCH [AND SALEM PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH]. MY GRANDMOTHER, REBECCA ELIZABETH CARVER, WAS RAISED IN THIS HOUSE.

THE WILLIAM STAPP FAMILY, B. 1802-D.1880, FAMILY SETTLED IN PICKENS COUNTY ABOUT 1839/40 IN THE OLNEY AREA. THIS COMMUNITY WAS TO THE SOUTHWEST OF LIBERTY CHURCH. WILLIAM STAPP WAS THE FATHER OF MARTHA STAPP CARVER. WILLIAM STAPP WAS THE BROTHER OF COLBAY STAPP {BOTH THESE MEN ARE BURIED AT UNITY CEMETERY AT OLNEY}. COLBAY STAPP, B. 1800, D. 1892, WAS MARRIED TWICE. IN HIS SECOND MARRIAGE, HE HAD FOUR SONS AND A DAUGHTER. ONE OF THOSE SONS WAS POSTELL STAPP. POSTELL LIVED FOR A TIME IN HOUSE #2.

ACCORDING TO JEWELL NOLAND, WIFE OF J. L. NOLAND, JR., HOUSE #2, NEAR LIBERTY CHURCH WAS PURCHASED BY PHILIP NOLAND AND HIS WIFE, ANNIE STAPP NOLAND...FORM POSTELL STAPP, B. 1859. [ANNIE AND MARTHA STAPP WERE FIRST COUSINS TO POSELL STAPP] FURTHER, POSTELL'S BROTHER, ROBERT LEE STAPP, WOULD MARRY THE WIDOW OF JOSEPH CARVER, SON OF GREEN CARVER ABOUT 1887. BECAUSE THEY LIVED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY?

HOWEVER, IN A LETTER DATED JAN 3, 1996, J.L. NOLAND, JR, STATED THAT PHILIP AND ANNIE NOLAND NEVER OWNED HOUSE #2. HE SAID HE THOUGHT SO FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT LEARNED WHEN HIS MOTHER DIED FROM OLD RECORDS, ETC., THAT ANNIE STAPP NOLAND HAD ALWAYS LIVED IN THE HOUSE AT PLEASANT GROVE, ALA. ACCORDING TO CENSUS RECORDS, THE HOUSEHOLD OF PHILIP AND ANNIE STAPP IN 1870 AND 1880 WAS IN PLEASANT GROVE...IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT HOUSE THAN HOUSE #2... AND ONE POINTED OUT BY MY GRANDFATHER, JOHN THOMAS NOLAND, B. 1875, AS HIS HOME WHEN HE WAS GROWING UP. AS STATED ABOVE, THEY NEVER BOUGHT THE #2 HOUSE. J.L. NOLAND STATES THAT HIS FATHER J.L. NOLAND, SR., AND WIFE LULA LIVED WITH ANNIE WHEN THEY FIRST MARRIED... AND THEIR FIRST FOUR CHILDREN WERE BORN IN THE HOUSE AT PLEASANT GROVE. FOLLOWING THAT, THEY MOVED FROM THE PLEASANT GROVE COMMUNITY TO LIBERTY CHURCH COMMUNITY AT KENNY HILL...AND AFTER THAT TO HOUSE #2. JAMES LESTER NOLAND PURCHASED THE HOUSE FROM THE MARTIN BROTHERS (TED MARTIN AND WIFE VIOLA KIRK MARTIN AND HIS BROTHER FORMED THE MARTIN BROTHERS LUMBER MILL IN THAT AREA]. VIOLA KIRK MARTIN WAS THE DAUGHTER OF MOLLIE CARVER WHO MARRIED MR. KIRK {WHO DIED EARLY} AND LATER MARRIED JOHN DANIEL. VIOLA KIRK WAS SISTER OF NANNIE MAE KIRK, AND THEY WERE GRANDDAUGHTERS OF GREEN CARVER. POSTELL STAPP AND FAMILY EVENTUALLY MOVED TO TUSCALOOSA AND OPENED A GENERAL STORE. DESCENDANTS OF MOLLIE SAY THAT SHE LIVED WITH PHILIP AND ANNIE STAPP NOLAND PART OF HER CHILDHOOD BECAUSE OF HER MOTHER'S ILLNESS. [UNLESS MARTHA STAPP CARVER WAS ILL FOR A VERY LONG TIME, I QUESTION THIS. MARTHA DIED IN 1896 AND IS BURIED AT LIBERTY CEMETERY. MOLLIE MARRIED TO MR. KIRK IN 1890 AND LIVES NEXT DOOR TO GREEN CARVER AND MARTHA STAPP CARVER IN 1891 WHEN HER FIRST CHILD WAS BORN. SO PERHAPS IT WAS MOLLIE KIRK AND HER HUSBAND THAT BOUGHT THE HOUSE FROM POSTELL STAPP.... AND THE MARTIN BROTHERS BOUGHT THE HOUSE MUCH LATER FROM MOLLIE AND HER NEW HUSBAND, MR. DANIEL. [AGAIN, REMEMBER THAT TED MARTIN WAS MARRIED TO MOLLIE'S DAUGHTER, VIOLA] JAMES LESTER NOLAND AND HIS FAMILY DIDN'T MOVE INTO THE HOUSE UNTIL ABOUT 1920 OR A LITTLE AFTER. IN THE PLEASANT GROVE AREA IS FOREST BAPTIST CHURCH. PHILIP NOLAND'S OBIT SAID HE WAS A MEMBER OF THIS CHURCH.

PHILIP NOLAND DIED SUDDENLY IN 1889, LEAVING ANNIE WITH TWO SONS AT HOME. PHILLIP WAS BURIED AT UNITY CEMETERY AT OLNEY... WHERE HIS SON AND DAUGHTER WERE ALREADY BURIED. ANNIE'S PARENTS, WILLIAM AND MARY MAXWELL STAPP, DIED AFTER PHILIP AND THEY WERE BURIED NEXT TO PHILIP AND ANNIE'S CHILDREN... AND PHILIP. ANNIE DIED IN 1928 AT GORDO AT THE HOME OF HER SON, JOHN THOMAS NOLAND. HER SONS CHOSE TO BURY HER AT LIBERTY CEMETERY NEXT TO HER COUSIN, R. L. STAPP.

GREEN CARVER'S DAUGHER MOLLIE MARRIED ROBERT KIRK IN 1890. KIRK DIED IN 1899. THEY APPARENTLY MOVED INTO THE HOUSE NEXT TO GREEN CARVER AFTER THEIR MARRIAGE...HOUSE # 2. MOLLIE'S DAUGHTER NANNIE MAE KIRK WAS BORN IN THAT HOUSE IN 1891 (ACCORDING TO NANNIE'S DAUGHTER}. ANOTHER DAUGHTER OF MOLLIE'S, VIOLA KIRK, PROBABLY WAS BORN IN HOUSE #2, TOO. VIOLA KIRK MARRIED TED MARTIN AND LIVED IN HOUSE #2... AND THIS WAS FAMILY THAT SOLD HOUSE TO JAMES LESTER NOLAND....NOT POSTELL STAPP. [PER J.L. NOLAND, JR.] MOLLIE CARVER KIRK REMARRIED 2ND TO JOHN DANIEL [BROTHER-IN-LAW OF JAMES LESTER NOLAND, SON OF PHILIP AND ANNIE STAPP NOLAND], IN 1901. REMEMBER, IT WAS JAMES LESTER NOLAND THAT BOUGHT THE #2 HOUSE FROM TED AND VIOLA KIRK MARTIN...DAU OF MOLLIE CARVER KIRK DANIEL, FIVE OR SO YEARS AFTER 1915. IN ALL PROBABILITY, IT WAS ROBERT KIRK AND MOLLIE CARVER KIRK THAT BOUGHT HOUSE #2 FROM POSTELL STAPP IN 1890. ACCORDING TO FAMILY SOURCES, GREEN CARVER'S DAUGHTER ANN ELIZABETH JORDAN DIED OF MALARIA IN 1898, LEAVING SEVERAL SMALL CHILDREN WHO WERE RAISED FOR A TIME BY THEIR AUNT MOLLIE.

THE SON OF PHILIP AND ANNIE STAPP NOLAND, JAMES LESTER NOLAND, MARRIED LULA DANIEL (GRAND-DAUGHTER OF ROBERT B. LOVE) IN 1900. APPARENTLY J.L. AND LULA LIVED WITH ANNIE STAPP NOLAND {PER J.L. NOLAND, JR.} AND THEIR FIRST FOUR CHILDREN WERE BORN IN HER HOME. THEIR SON, J. L. NOLAND, JR., WAS BORN IN 1915. HE STATES THAT AS A SMALL CHILD, HIS PARENTS MOVED INTO HOUSE #2. IN THE MEANTIME, GREEN CARVER AND HIS SONS HAVE MOVED TO GORDO, AL AND OPENED A GENERAL STORE. GREEN CARVER WAS LIVING IN GORDO BY 1901 WHEN HE WAS MANAGER OF THE FIRST CITY ELECTION. IN 1900, REBECCA ELIZABETH CARVER, DAU OF JIM CARVER, MARRIED TOM NOLAND. HER FATHER AND GRANDFATHER GREEN CARVER BUILT THEM A HOME ON "CARVER ROAD" IN GORDO. JIM'S SONS ALSO LIVED ON THAT ROAD, AS DID GREEN CARVER. GREEN DIED IN GORDO IN 1904. J. L. NOLAND, JR., ALSO STATES THAT HIS GRANDMOTHER, ANNIE STAPP NOLAND, AT TIMES LIVED WITH THEIR FAMILY. HE ALSO STATES THAT WHEN ANNIE STAPP NOLAND SOLD HER HOME IN PLEASANT GROVE, ALA, SHE MOVED IN WITH HER SON, JOHN THOMAS NOLAND, IN GORDO, ALA. SHE DID, FROM TIME TO TIME, STAY WITH HER SON, JAMES LESTER NOLAND. ANNIE STAPP NOLAND WAS CRIPPLED, ACC TO J.L., AND HAD TO USE CRUTCHES TO GET AROUND.

ANNIE DIED IN 1928, AT TOM NOLAND'S HOUSE IN GORDO. JAMES LESTER AND LULA STILL LIVED IN THE HOUSE NEAR LIBERTY CHURCH IN THE 40S WHEN I WAS A CHILD BECAUSE WE WOULD GO THERE IN THE SUMMERTIME TO GET WATERMELONS.

Note: Many in the Carver family served in the CSA during the Civil War. Those that we KNOW served are:
Green Carver, in cavalry
John Carver, son; died at Vicksburg, MS (POSSIBLY NOT, SINCE WE REC'D COMMUNICATION FROM A CARVER LIVING IN INDIANA OR OHIO, WHICH STATED THAT HIS GR GRANDFATHER HAD BEEN A "JOHN CARVER", FORMERLY OF PICKENS COUNTY, WHO HAD SURRENDERED AT THE BATTLE OF VICKSBURG, MS BECAUSE HE WAS DESPERATELY HUNGRY. HE WAS ONLY ABOUT 16 YRS OLD. THE DESCENDANT SAID HE ALWAYS TOLD HIS 'NORTHERN' FAMILY THAT HE WAS ASHAMED TO RETURN TO PICKENS COUNTY BECAUSE HE HAD SURRENDERED TO THE YANKEES AND LATER HELPED THE YANKEES IN THE WAR.
G W Carver, cousin
S.A. Carver, cousin
Wesley Carver, cousin
I am also told that members of his brothers' families served. These brothers had moved to Texas by time of Civil War and probably served from that state.

More About GREEN CARVER:
Burial: Liberty Church Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Comment 1: 1850, Shown in census as farmer
Comment 3: 1900, living in household of dau, Mary/Mollie Kirk
Fact 1: GAVE LAND FOR NEW CEMETERY AT LIBERTY PRIM BAPT CHURCH
Fact 2: WIFE MARTHA CARVER FIRST ONE BURIED THERE
Fact 3: SON, JAMES CARVER, PREACHED AT LIBERTY CHURCH
Fact 4: 1901, DATE OF FIRST CITY ELECTION OF GORDO, ALA
Fact 5: 1901, GREEN CARVER WAS MANAGER OF ELECTION
Fact 6: 1901, GREEN CARVER CHOSEN AS COUNCILMAN
Fact 7: Jun 1879, JOINED LIBERTY CHURCH BY LETTER
Fact 8: Jul 1881, GREEN CARVER CHOSEN AS DEACON IN CHURCH
Fact 9: 1900, Lived in Gordo, AL on "Carver Road"
Fact 10: 1860, Shown in census as "grocer"
Fact 11: 1862, served in CSA in Cavalry; with Nathan Bedford Forrest
Fact 12: 1850, shown in Pickens Co., AL slave census records

More About LOUISE POWELL:
Fact 1: POSSIBLY DIED FROM CHILDBIRTH COMPLICATIONS
Fact 2: SISTER PROBABLY MARRIED WM. W. CARVER

More About GREEN CARVER and LOUISE POWELL:
Marriage: Abt. 1847, PICKENS CO., ALA

More About MARTHA STAPP:
Burial: Liberty Church Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Cause of Death: DIED OF BRIGHT'S DISEASE
Fact 1: 1896, First person buried in 'new' Liberty Church Cem./Pickens Co

More About GREEN CARVER and MARTHA STAPP:
Marriage: 21 Nov 1855, PICKENS CO., ALA

More About GREEN CARVER and NANNIE BARNES:
Marriage: Abt. 1900

Children of GREEN CARVER and LOUISE POWELL are:
i. JOHN WALTER4 CARVER, b. 15 Sep 1848, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. Abt. Jun 1864, BATTLE OF VICKSBURG, MISS??.

More About JOHN WALTER CARVER:
Fact 1: JOINED THE CONFEDERATE ARMY
Fact 2: KILLED AT BATTLE OF VICKSBURG, MS

2. ii. JOSEPH H. CARVER, b. 15 Oct 1849, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. Aft. 1879, PICKENS CO., ALA.
3. iii. JAMES MONROE CARVER, b. 12 May 1851, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. 28 Jan 1932, Bryce Mental Hospital, Tuscaloosa, AL.
4. iv. NANCY EDNA CARVER, b. 11 Mar 1853, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. 14 Dec 1903, PICKENS CO., ALA.


Children of GREEN CARVER and MARTHA STAPP are:
5. v. ANN ELIZABETH4 CARVER, b. 01 Jan 1866, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. 19 Oct 1898, PICKENS CO., ALA.
6. vi. SARAH JANE/SALLY CARVER, b. 11 Oct 1867, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. 19 Dec 1938, PICKENS CO., ALA.
7. vii. MARY ELLEN/MOLLIE CARVER, b. 03 Dec 1871, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. 07 Sep 1945, Pickens Co., Ala.


Generation No. 2

2. JOSEPH H.4 CARVER (GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 15 Oct 1849 in PICKENS CO., ALA, and died Aft. 1879 in PICKENS CO., ALA. He married THEODOSIA SCOTT. She was born 20 Jan 1857, and died Bet. 1932 - 1935 in Tuscaloosa, AL.

More About JOSEPH H. CARVER:
Cause of Death: KILLED WHEN TREE FELL ON HIM
Comment 1: 1900, Son and dau, Rebecca and Lester, lived with uncle James M. Carver
Fact 1: killed when tree fell on him

More About THEODOSIA SCOTT:
Burial: Tuscaloosa, AL
Fact 1: died of poisoning, together with youngest dau
Fact 2: Poisoned by family "friend"
Fact 1: THEODOCIA LIVED IN TUSCALOOSA WITH STAPP CHILDREN
Fact 2: WILLIAM, TRUDIE AND EDWARD STAPP.
Fact 3: BURIED IN TUSCALOOSA, ALA

Children of JOSEPH CARVER and THEODOSIA SCOTT are:
i. LOU GREEN5 CARVER, b. Abt. 1874.

More About LOU GREEN CARVER:
Comment 1: believe she was unmarried and lived with mother
Comment 2: Probably oldest dau since named after both grandmothers

8. ii. MAGGIE EDNA CARVER, b. 06 Oct 1876, PICKens Co., Ala; d. 11 Oct 1933, PICKens Co., Ala.
9. iii. REBECCA PARRIE CARVER, b. 10 Jan 1878, PICKens Co., Ala; d. 12 Dec 1968, PICKens Co., Ala.
10. iv. JOSEPH LESTER CARVER, b. 20 Sep 1879, PICKens Co., Ala; d. 21 Jun 1943, TUSCALOOSA, ALA.


3. JAMES MONROE4 CARVER (GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1)4 was born 12 May 1851 in PICKENS CO., ALA5, and died 28 Jan 1932 in Bryce Mental Hospital, Tuscaloosa, AL5. He married HANNAH SALENIA LOVE 26 Dec 1870 in PICKENS CO., ALA, daughter of ROBERT LOVE and REBECCA BALLARD. She was born 27 Nov 1840 in PICKENS CO., ALA5, and died 18 Jan 1918 in PICKENS CO., ALA5.

Notes for JAMES MONROE CARVER:
THE FOLLOWING INORMATION WAS TAKEN FROM JAMES MONROE CARVER'S BIBLE. THE DATE OF THE BIBLE WAS 1878. THE BIBLE BELONGS TO MY UNCLE, T.E. NOLAND, OF TUSCALOOSA, ALA.
THE BIBLE WAS GIVEN TO MY UNCLE, JEFF NOLAND, WHEN T.E. NOLAND DIED. JEFF NOLAND IS PRESENTLY DECEASED AND THE BIBLE IS IN THE POSSESSION OF HIS WIDOW, LOUISE NOLAND, IN CALIFORNIA. (1997)

MARRIAGES:

JAMES M. CARVER WAS MARRIED TO H.S. PRESCOTT - DECEMBER THE 26TH, 1870
S.R. JONES WAS MARRIED TO M.L. CARVER NOVEMBER THE 18TH, 1894
JOHN T. NOLAND WAS MARRIED TO LIZZIE E. CARVER, JAN 3, 1900
ROBERT GREEN CARVER WAS MARRIED TO VERONA LANCASTER ON JAN THE 11TH, 1899
W. S. CARVER WAS MARRIED TO MATTIE AKIN, JAN 22, 1901
A. J. CARVER WAS MARRIED TO ALMA A. KNOX, NOV 29, 1905

BIRTHS:

JAMES M. CARVER WAS BORN MAY THE 12TH, 1851
HANNAH SALENA LOVE PRESCOTT CARVER WAS BORN NOV. THE 27TH, 1840.
ROBERT GREEN CARVER WAS BORN JUNE THE 5TH, 1873
MARY LOU CARVER WAS BORN DEC THE 19TH, 1874.
WILLIAM STANDFORD CARVER WAS BORN MARCH THE 15TH, 1876
REBECCA ELIZABETH CARVER WAS BORN NOV THE 6TH, 1878
ANDREW JACKSON CARVER WAS BORN AUG THE 5TH, 1881

JAMES P. CARVER WAS BORN FEB THE 23RD, 1901
DONA MAY CARVER WAS BORN NOV 18, 1902
JAMES L. JONES WAS BORN SEPT 15, 1895
MATTIE MARTIN JONES WAS BORN AUG 8, 1898
ANDREW S. JONES WAS BORN MAY 1, 1900
SELENA BEATRICE CARVER WAS BORN SEPT 22, 1906

DEATHS:

HANNAH SALENIA DEPARTED THIS LIFE JAN 18TH, 1918
JAMES M. CARVER DIED JAN 28, 1932
ROBERT GREEN CARVER DIED
WILLIAM S CARVER DIED AUG 6TH, 1943
MATTIE A. CARVER DIED MAY 24TH, 1917
JAMES P. CARVER DIED NOV 10, 1901
JAMES P. NOLAND, SON OF J.T. AND R.E. NOLAND, DIED AUG 24, 1900
OVELLA MAE NOLAND, DAU OF J.T. AND R.E. NOLAND, DIED AUG. 2ND 1916


JAMES MONROE CARVER, b. 12 May 1851, Pickens Co., Ala. Married on 26 Dec 1870 to HANNAH SALENIA LOVE, a widow of someone named Prescott and 11 years older than Jim Carver. Prescott was killed in the civil war. James Monroe Carver was a Baptist Preacher, preaching at Liberty Church and Salem Primitive Baptist Church. I am told by a relative who is also a minister that Jim Carver was "famous" throughout the south as an evangelist and traveled all through the south to preach. Years ago, when I started interviewing elderly residents of Pickens Co., AL, I noticed that some were extremely proud of the fact that Jim Carver had married them and often stated that they had postponed their weddings until Jim had time to marry them. I learned later that after Jim Carver became so well-known, it was deemed an honor to have him conduct the marriage vows. Jim Carver also owned saw mills, a general store (together with his sons and brother-in-law) as well as other business ventures. However, I was told that he eventually went bankrupt, at the general store, because he insisted on extending credit to people and was never repaid. On Dec 27, 1920, he wrote his description as follows: Hgt: 6'; wgt: 165; size of hat: 7 1/8; shoes: size 10; size of shirt: 16 1/2; collar: 16 1/2; hair: red. Beginning in 1896, James Carver was Commissioner of District 4 of Pickens Co., AL. In 1908, he was elected to the post of Commissioner of District 1 and was re-elected to that post in 1912. James Monroe Carver died 28 Jan 1932. Hannah Salenia Carver died 18 Jan 1918 of T.B. Both are buried in the Liberty Church Cemetery in Pickens Co., Ala. My mother, Melba Noland, [granddau of Jim Carver] said that in the last few years of his life, he lived across the street from her family. He had a fancy buggy and a horse that took him out into the county to visit his "flock". He would leave early in the morning and be gone all day. The male grandchildren's responsibility was to watch for the buggy and be sure Jim had arrived home safely. More often than not, mother said, when the horse and buggy arrived, Jim would be fast asleep on the bench seat. The horse just knew that at the end of the day, he was to go home to his barn. (Jim's sister Sally Carver Bailey also lived on this street, as did his sons Cole Carver and Stan Carver. In addition, another sister, Molly, lived for a time across the street from Jim for a short time. ]

In the 1900 Pickens County Census James Carver and family is shown as living in "Raleigh Precinct".

"GORDO AREA HISTORY AND CHRONICLES", CENTENNIAL 1901 - 2001
In the spring of 1898, among existing businesses was Carver and Kirk [believe it was Green Carver and one of his sons-in-law]. In December of 1900, Gordo was incorporated and the first town government was elected April 1,1901. One of the first councilmen was GREEN CARVER.

"The West Alabamian", 1892: July - Campaign Committees are: Raleigh: F.P. Martin, J.K.P. Martin, Andrew Cole, Early Kirk and J.M. Carver.

"The West Alabamian", 1899; Mr. R. Early Kirk died Dec 10 and was interred aat the family burial ground, about eight miles south. He was one of the best businessmen of Gordo and a leading member of the firm of Carver & Kirk.

"Gordo Enterprise", 1900; It is said that Commissioner James M. Carver and family will soon move to Gordo.

1900 - J.M. Carver of Raleigh has bought our Mr. M.E. Kirk's part in the store of the firm of Carver and Kirk and the style of the firm will be Green Carver and Son.

"The Alabama Alliance", 1900; Rev. J.M. Carver is moving from Raleigh to Gordo. Green and Marion Patric are moving into R.B. Bailey's place, and R.B. Bailey will move to the Rev J. M. Carver's place.

March 1901: Gordo was ravaged by fire with many businesses burning and the contents therein being destroyed. The house of L.D. Elrod and occupied by Carver and Son was next caught (after about 6 or 7 other businesses) which contained an immense stock of general merchandise, carloads of flour, corn and dry goods. Only about a fourth of the stock was saved.

"Gordo Enterprise" 1902; The Municipal election last monday resulted as follows: Mayor, A.F. Bell; Councilmen: W. S. Carver, S. Crawford, H.H. Propst and J.F. Strickland

"The West Alabamian", 1903; August - Thee were several strangers prospecting for homes near Gordo last week. Some have aleady invested in land near town. We attribute this boom in real estate to the Gordo High ASchool which will open Sept 14, under the management of Prof McKenzie. We redict one hundred or more pupils to be enrolled the first day. Strangers are in town looking for board and we will not let them go away for lack of accommodations. Several more new dwelling houses are needed near Gordo. Rev. J. M. Carver will soon erect another cottage home on the vacant lot west of Hanson's residence.

Rev. J. M. Carver suffered from acute dementia in his last years and was a patient at Bryce Mental Hospital and in fact died there.

More About JAMES MONROE CARVER:
Burial: Liberty Church Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Cause of Death: DIED OF HEART ATTACK
Comment 1: 1900, in census, found in Raleigh precinct (near Liberty Church)
Comment 4: 1900, in census, a niece Rebecca Carver lived with his household
Comment 5: 1900, in census, a nephew Lester lived with his household
Comment 6: 1900, in census, his son Andrew J. still lived in household
Comment 7: owned General Store CARVER AND SONS in Gordo, AL
Fact 1: WELL KNOWN BAPTIST PREACHER IN THE SOUTH
Fact 2: OWNED LUMBER AND SAW MILLS AND OWNED GENERAL STORE WITH SONS
Fact 3: 1932, BURIED AT LIBERTY PRIM BAPT CHURCH CEMETERY
Fact 4: 03 Aug 1896, ELECTED AS COMMISSIONER OF DISTRICT 4, PICKENS CO., ALA
Fact 5: 1897, LIVED IN RALEIGH COMMUNITY, PICKENS CO, ALA
Fact 6: 1870, MARRIED A WIDOW, 11 YEARS HIS SENIOR
Fact 7: 1908, ELECTED COMMISSIONER OF 1ST DISTRICT, PICKENS CO
Fact 8: 1912, RE-ELECTED TO 1ST DISTRICT COMMISSIONER
Fact 9: 1900, PROBABLY MOVED TO GORDO AROUND THIS DATE
Fact 10: May 1879, JOINED LIBERTY CHURCH BY LETTER
Fact 11: Nov 1880, J.M. CARVER JOINED LIBERTY CH BY EXPERIENCE
Fact 12: Mar 1881, J.M. CARVER IS CLERK OF LIBERTY CHURCH
Medical Information: SIZE OF HAT: 7 1/8; SHOE SIZE: 10; SIZE OF SHIRT: 16 1/2 COLLAR

Notes for HANNAH SALENIA LOVE:
Descendants often spoke of Hannah Salenia's love of "fine things" and cited her collection of cut glass, silver, etc. Upon her death, her youngest son took such things to his house for 'safe-keeping' and none of the other children rec'd anything.

More About HANNAH SALENIA LOVE:
Burial: Liberty Church Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Cause of Death: DIED OF T.B.
Comment 1: 1870, Thirty yrs old when married to J. Carver
Fact 1: MARRIED FIRST TO MAN NAMED PRESCOTT
Fact 2: PRESCOTT KILLED IN CIVIL WAR
Fact 3: eleven years older than Jim Carver, her husband

More About JAMES CARVER and HANNAH LOVE:
Marriage: 26 Dec 1870, PICKENS CO., ALA

Children of JAMES CARVER and HANNAH LOVE are:
11. i. ROBERT GREEN5 CARVER, b. 05 Jun 1873, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. 30 Jun 1940, PICKENS CO., ALA.
12. ii. MARY LOU CARVER, b. 29 Dec 1874, PICKENS CO., ALA.
13. iii. WILLIAM STANFORD CARVER, b. 15 Mar 1877, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. 06 Aug 1943.
14. iv. REBECCA ELIZABETH CARVER, b. 06 Nov 1878, Pickens Co., Ala; d. 19 Oct 1945, Tuscaloosa, Ala.
15. v. ANDREW JACKSON "COLE" CARVER, b. 05 Aug 1881, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. 14 Jun 1970, Pickens County, AL.


4. NANCY EDNA4 CARVER (GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 11 Mar 1853 in PICKENS CO., ALA, and died 14 Dec 1903 in PICKENS CO., ALA. She married TOM GARDNER.

More About NANCY EDNA CARVER:
Burial: Liberty Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 1: BURIED T LIBERTY CEMETERY, PICKENS CO, ALA

More About TOM GARDNER:
Fact 1: After wife died, he moved away from area.

Child of NANCY CARVER and TOM GARDNER is:
i. JIM GREEN5 GARDNER.


5. ANN ELIZABETH4 CARVER (GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 01 Jan 1866 in PICKENS CO., ALA, and died 19 Oct 1898 in PICKENS CO., ALA. She married WILLIAM RUFUS JORDAN 07 Jan 1889 in PICKENS CO., ALA, son of ELBERT JORDAN and MARY HOUSTON. He was born 06 Mar 1855 in Gordo, Pickens Co., Ala, and died 28 Oct 1908 in 28 Oct 1908.

More About ANN ELIZABETH CARVER:
Burial: liberty Cemetery, Pickens Co., Ala
Cause of Death: MALARIA FEVER
Fact 1: BURIED AT LIBERTY BAPTIST CHURCH CEMETERY, PICKENS CO
Fact 2: died at age 32 of malaria fever

More About WILLIAM RUFUS JORDAN:
Cause of Death: PNeumonia
Fact 1: BURIED AT LIBERTY PRIM BAPT CHURCH CEMETERY

More About WILLIAM JORDAN and ANN CARVER:
Marriage: 07 Jan 1889, PICKENS CO., ALA

Children of ANN CARVER and WILLIAM JORDAN are:
i. WILLIAM HARVEY5 JORDAN, b. 13 Nov 1889, PICKENs Co., Ala; d. 16 Feb 1917, PICKENs Co., Ala; m. IDA MAE.

More About WILLIAM HARVEY JORDAN:
Fact 1: HAD ARM CUT OFF IN SAW MILL ACCIDENT
Fact 2: NEVER MARRIED
Fact 3: fatal forestry accident, age 28
Fact 4: buried AT LIBERTY CEMETERY, PICKENS CO.

16. ii. AMANDA FLORENCE JORDAN, b. 03 Feb 1892, GORDO, ALA; d. 22 Mar 1977, NORTHPORT, ALA.
17. iii. JOHN BRYANT JORDAN, b. 18 Jan 1894, GORDO, ALA; d. 05 Jan 1954, MONTGOMERY, ALA.
iv. JAMES ELBERT JORDAN, b. 12 Jul 1895; d. 17 Aug 1940, COVINGTON, ALA.


6. SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER (GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 11 Oct 1867 in PICKENS CO., ALA, and died 19 Dec 1938 in PICKENS CO., ALA. She married ROBERT BRADSHAW BAILEY 19 Jan 1888 in Pickens County, AL, son of LAWRENCE BAILEY and ANNIE BOON. He was born 21 Mar 1866 in PIckens County, AL, and died 23 Nov 1945 in pICkens County, AL.

Notes for SARAH JANE/SALLY CARVER:

My uncles, Thomas Edgar Noland and Cayce Noland, sons of Lizzie Carver Noland, told me that Sallie Carver Bailey, their aunt, lived across the street from Lizzie. Apparently, Sallie's son-in-law Dr. Kirk, gave her a great deal of paragoric [an addictive pain killer]. At any rate, when the boys needed a little spending money, they would crawl under Aunt Sallie's house and retrieve paragoric bottles to sell. They were 'returnable' at the drug store. Sallie apparently threw them under the house when she finished with them. Grandmother learned what they were doing and forbade them to do it again. Uncle Dutch said that when Sallie died, there was a "mountain" of paragoric bottles under her house. And that was after the boys had taken many, many bottles from beneath the house.

Uncle Cayce said that Sallie was "such fun" to be around. She had a great sense of humor, laughed and kidded the children. She had flaming red hair. (inherited from the Carvers, no doubt).


More About SARAH JANE/SALLY CARVER:
Burial: Liberty Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 1: BURIED AT LIBERTY PRIM BAPT CHURCH CEMETERY
Fact 2: SALLY WAS A "FIREBALL"
Fact 3: DIPPED SNUFF (AND MAYBE OTHER THINGS)
Fact 4: WAS RED HEADED

Notes for ROBERT BRADSHAW BAILEY:
Believe that this is the brother-in-law that was in business with James Monroe Carver with the general store.

More About ROBERT BRADSHAW BAILEY:
Burial: Liberty Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 1: buried at Liberty Church Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 2: named after Rev. R. Bradshaw, who presided over L.D. & Annie's marraige
Fact 3: Proprietor of Cloverdale Stock and Poultry Farm, Rt 2, Gordo, AL
Fact 4: Played the violin/fiddle

More About ROBERT BAILEY and SARAH CARVER:
Marriage: 19 Jan 1888, Pickens County, AL

Children of SARAH CARVER and ROBERT BAILEY are:
18. i. LOIS JEAN "BOBIE"5 BAILEY, b. 19 Feb 1889, PICKENS CO., ALA; d. 16 Dec 1958, PICKENS CO., ALA.
19. ii. HURLEY MARTIN BAILEY, b. 29 Nov 1891, Pickens County, AL; d. 31 Jan 1973, Pickens County, AL.
20. iii. MATTIE GERTRUDE "BEP" BAILEY, b. 30 Mar 1893, Pickens County, AL; d. 22 Feb 1983, PICKENS CO., ALA.
iv. HERMAN CARVER BAILEY, b. 20 Jul 1895, Pickens County, AL; d. 11 Oct 1918, France (WWI).

More About HERMAN CARVER BAILEY:
Fact 1: DIED IN WWI
Fact 2: buried AT LIBERTY CEMETERY, PICKENS CO, ALA
Fact 3: Private in 323rd Infantry, Serial #3206981

21. v. ANNIE KATE BAILEY, b. 12 May 1897.
22. vi. MARY EDNA "RED" BAILEY, b. 23 Feb 1903, Gordo, Pickens Co., AL; d. 28 Jul 1987, Northport, AL.


7. MARY ELLEN/MOLLIE4 CARVER (GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 03 Dec 1871 in PICKENS CO., ALA, and died 07 Sep 1945 in Pickens Co., Ala. She married (1) ROBERT EARLY KIRK 02 Jan 1890 in PICKENS CO., ALA. He died 10 Dec 1899. She married (2) JOHN HENRY DANIEL 27 Jun 1901 in PICKENS CO., ALA. He died Abt. 1940.

Notes for MARY ELLEN/MOLLIE CARVER:
In 1900 census, Mary Carver Kirk is found living in Gordo precinct. Listed in household is: Mary Kirk, head of household
Nannie Kirk, dau
Mattie Kirk, dau
Green Carver, father
Sarah E. Strickland, aunt
They lived next to household of Arthur Kirk and family, including his brother, Albert Kirk.

More About MARY ELLEN/MOLLIE CARVER:
Burial: Liberty Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 1: BURIED AT LIBERTY PRIM BAPT CHURCH CEMETERY
Fact 2: kept house for her nephew after his wife died

More About ROBERT EARLY KIRK:
Fact 1: fatal vehicle accident; killed by truck at age 36
Fact 2: buried AT LIBERTY CEMETERY, PICKENS CO, ALA

More About ROBERT KIRK and MARY CARVER:
Marriage: 02 Jan 1890, PICKENS CO., ALA
Marriage date: one record says they married: December 31, 1889

More About JOHN HENRY DANIEL:
Fact 1: WAS DEPUTY SHERIFF IN WILCOX CO, ALA
Fact 2: KILLED IN LINE OF DUTY THERE

More About JOHN DANIEL and MARY CARVER:
Marriage: 27 Jun 1901, PICKENS CO., ALA

Children of MARY CARVER and ROBERT KIRK are:
23. i. NANCY MARY "NANNIE MAE)5 KIRK, b. 24 Jan 1891; d. 1976.
ii. MARTHA "MATTIE" VIOLA KIRK, b. 16 Jul 1894; d. 1976; m. WILLIAM CASWELL "TED" MARTIN.

More About MARTHA "MATTIE" VIOLA KIRK:
Fact 1: HAD NO CHILDREN

More About WILLIAM CASWELL "TED" MARTIN:
Fact 1: OWNER OF MARTIN BROTHERS LUMBER CO.
Fact 2: married granddaughter of Green Carver
Fact 3: lived in Raleigh Community, close to Liberty Church
Fact 4: had no children
Fact 5: co-owner of Martin Bros Lumber Co


Child of MARY CARVER and JOHN DANIEL is:
24. iii. HURDIS LEON5 DANIEL, b. 05 Feb 1906.


Generation No. 3

8. MAGGIE EDNA5 CARVER (JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 06 Oct 1876 in PICKens Co., Ala, and died 11 Oct 1933 in PICKens Co., Ala. She married HARRIS H. SNIDER Abt. 1892. He was born 1873, and died 1952.

More About MAGGIE EDNA CARVER:
Burial: LIBERTY CEMETERY, PICKENS CO., AL
Comment 1: 1900, father was dec'd, and mother remarried
Comment 2: 1900, maggie was already married
Fact 1: BURIED AT LIBERTY BAPTIST CHURCH CEMETERY, PICKENS CO

More About HARRIS SNIDER and MAGGIE CARVER:
Marriage: Abt. 1892

Children of MAGGIE CARVER and HARRIS SNIDER are:
i. SILAS6 SNIDER, b. 1893, Pickens Co., AL; d. 1979; m. JANIE MYRTLE HOOD.
25. ii. DOSHIE LEE SNIDER, b. 1896, Pickens Co., AL; d. 1958.
26. iii. SARAH ELIZABETH "LIZZIE" SNIDER, b. 1899, Pickens Co., AL.
iv. MATTIE SNIDER, b. 1902; d. 1997; m. CHARLES W. GAY; b. 1906; d. 1981.
27. v. JOSEPH BRYANT SNIDER, b. 1903; d. 1979.
28. vi. MINNIE SNIDER, b. 1905; d. 1973.
29. vii. ROMAN SNIDER, b. 1909; d. 1986.
30. viii. FLORA RAE SNIDER, b. 1912; d. 1951.
31. ix. EMMETT SNIDER, b. 1914; d. 1958.
x. HARM JEWEL SNIDER, b. 1918; d. 1919.


9. REBECCA PARRIE5 CARVER (JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 10 Jan 1878 in PICKens Co., Ala, and died 12 Dec 1968 in PICKens Co., Ala. She married STEPHEN RICHARD LANCASTER Aft. 1900, son of STEPHEN PINKLEY LANCASTER.

More About REBECCA PARRIE CARVER:
Comment 1: 1900, census showed that she was living in household of uncle, James M. Carver
Comment 2: 1900, father was dec'd, and mother remarried
Fact 1: CALLED "PARRIE" CARVER
Fact 2: BURIED IN GORDO CEMETERY, GORDO, ALA

More About STEPHEN LANCASTER and REBECCA CARVER:
Marriage: Aft. 1900

Children of REBECCA CARVER and STEPHEN LANCASTER are:
32. i. BERTHA6 LANCASTER, d. MONTGOMERY, ALA.
33. ii. OPAL LANCASTER.
34. iii. BERNICE OTTICE LANCASTER.


10. JOSEPH LESTER5 CARVER (JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 20 Sep 1879 in PICKens Co., Ala, and died 21 Jun 1943 in TUSCALOOSA, ALA. He married LUCILE DAVIS 04 Oct 1911 in TUSCALOOSA, ALA. She was born 26 Aug 1886, and died 13 Jun 1960 in TUSCALOOSA, ALA.

More About JOSEPH LESTER CARVER:
Comment 1: 1900, census showed that he was living in household of uncle, James M. Carver
Comment 2: 1900, father was dec'd, and mother remarried
Fact 1: BURIED AT EVERGREEN CEMETERY, TUSCALOOSA, ALA
Fact 2: MERCHANT IN TUSCALOOSA

More About JOSEPH CARVER and LUCILE DAVIS:
Marriage: 04 Oct 1911, TUSCALOOSA, ALA

Children of JOSEPH CARVER and LUCILE DAVIS are:
i. JOSEPH LESTER6 CARVER.

More About JOSEPH LESTER CARVER:
Fact 1: WAS POSTMASTER IN TUSCALOOSA, ALA

ii. CECIL CARVER.

More About CECIL CARVER:
Fact 1: HAD INSURANCE COMPANY IN TUSCALOOSA, ALA


11. ROBERT GREEN5 CARVER (JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 05 Jun 1873 in PICKENS CO., ALA, and died 30 Jun 1940 in PICKENS CO., ALA. He married ROSA VERONA LANCASTER 11 Jan 1899 in PICKENS CO., ALA, daughter of PINK LANCASTER and MARTHA VICK. She was born 13 Oct 1880 in Pickens County, AL, and died 04 Dec 1949 in Pickens Co., Ala.

Notes for ROBERT GREEN CARVER:
note: In the same cemetery where Robert Green Carver is buried, lies the grave of Mrs. R. H. Carver, b. march 5, 1842, d. Feb 4, 1918. I have no idea who this person might be.

Robert Green Carver worked at General Store called "Carver and Sons" which went bankrupt because they gave credit to too many people and weren't paid back.

More About ROBERT GREEN CARVER:
Burial: Gordo Cemetery, Gordo, Pickens Co., AL

More About ROSA VERONA LANCASTER:
Burial: Gordo Cemetery, Gordo, Pickens Co., AL

More About ROBERT CARVER and ROSA LANCASTER:
Marriage: 11 Jan 1899, PICKENS CO., ALA

Children of ROBERT CARVER and ROSA LANCASTER are:
i. DONA MAE6 CARVER.
ii. NAOMI GAY CARVER.
iii. FRONA RAYE CARVER.

Notes for FRONA RAYE CARVER:
Around 1980, Frona was murdered in her apartment in Washington, DC. The murderer was never caught.

More About FRONA RAYE CARVER:
Fact 1: Abt. 1980, murdered in her apartment in Washington, DC

iv. JAMES PHILLIP CARVER, b. 23 Feb 1901, Pickens Co., Ala; d. 10 Nov 1901, Pickens Co., Ala.

More About JAMES PHILLIP CARVER:
Burial: Liberty Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL


12. MARY LOU5 CARVER (JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 29 Dec 1874 in PICKENS CO., ALA. She married SAMUEL R. JONES 18 Nov 1894 in PICKENS CO., ALA.

More About SAMUEL JONES and MARY CARVER:
Marriage: 18 Nov 1894, PICKENS CO., ALA

Children of MARY CARVER and SAMUEL JONES are:
i. ROBERT6 JONES.
ii. CECIL JONES.
iii. LEON JONES.
iv. EMMETT JONES.
v. JAMES L. JONES, b. 15 Sep 1895; m. LEMMIE DANIEL.
vi. MATTIE JONES, b. 08 Aug 1898.
vii. ANDREW S JONES, b. 01 May 1900.


13. WILLIAM STANFORD5 CARVER (JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 15 Mar 1877 in PICKENS CO., ALA, and died 06 Aug 1943. He married (1) MATTIE AKINS. She was born 25 Aug 1874, and died 21 May 1917 in Pickens Co., AL. He married (2) ETTA MCGHEE 22 Jan 1901 in PICKENS CO., ALA.

More About WILLIAM STANFORD CARVER:
Burial: Liberty Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 1: Buried at Liberty Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 2: worked at Carver & Sons store with brother and father
Fact 3: Store went bankrupt when people rec'ing credit, refused to pay bills

More About WILLIAM CARVER and ETTA MCGHEE:
Marriage: 22 Jan 1901, PICKENS CO., ALA

Children of WILLIAM CARVER and ETTA MCGHEE are:
i. ARCHIE STEWART6 CARVER.

Notes for ARCHIE STEWART CARVER:
Stewart Carver lived in Tuscaloosa, AL most of his adult life.

ii. IRMA CARVER, b. 01 Apr 1905, pickens Co., AL; d. 18 Jul 1933, Pickens Co., AL; m. ____________ JAMES.

More About IRMA CARVER:
Burial: Liberty Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 1: died of leukemia

iii. JAMES WILLIAM CARVER.


14. REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER (JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1)6 was born 06 Nov 1878 in Pickens Co., Ala, and died 19 Oct 1945 in Tuscaloosa, Ala. She married JOHN THOMAS NOLAND7 03 Jan 1900 in Pickens Co., Ala, son of PHILIP NOLAND and ANNIE STAPP. He was born 30 Mar 1875 in Pickens Co., Ala, and died 23 Jun 1951 in Tuscaloosa, Ala.

Notes for REBECCA ELIZABETH CARVER:
Lizzie died of ruptured colon complications. Had red hair and hazel eyes. Her father was a preacher, well known in the South.



More About REBECCA ELIZABETH CARVER:
Burial: Gordo Cemetery, Gordo, Pickens Co., AL
Cause of Death: ruptured colon complications
Fact 1: HAD RED HAIR, HAZEL EYES
Medical Information:

Notes for JOHN THOMAS NOLAND:
John Thomas Noland, orphaned as a teen-ager when his father died. At age 23, working at Bryce Mental Hospital in Tuscaloosa. In 1903, he was appointed postmaster of Mabel, Ala near his childhood home. In Gordo, James Carver (his father-in-law) built them two houses on "Carver Road". Tom had a problem with a morphine addition for awhile. Owned a cotton and fertilizer warehouse until it burned down ca 1922. Tom had no insurance on the warehouse and family suffered financial woes thereafter. At other times, owned a cleaning establishment, a cafe, etc. Children said he was "self-centered and spoiled". His older sons all left home very young due to father's abusiveness. Easily depressed and suicidal. Finally was committed to Bryce Mental Hospital in Tuscaloosa to halt suicide attempts. Buried at Gordo Cemetery,
Gordo, Ala.

Note: In the same cemetery where John Thomas Noland is buried lies a grave for: Sam M. Noland, b. Feb 2, 1902, d. Feb 20, 1968. I do not know how this individual fits into the Noland line.

COPY OF LETTER POSTMARKED TUSCALOOSA, AL - NOV 22, 1897; ADDRESSED TO MISS LIZIE CARVER, RALEIGH, PICKENS COUNTY, ALABAMA

Miss Lizzie Carver

Dear Friend:

I will try after so long a time to write you a few lines, but I feel like it is useless for me to be writing to you for I know you have forgotten me and care nothing for me, but I am so lonely here on the hall that I have to do something to pass off the time and I am sure there is only one way I could pass off the time better than writing to you and that is to be with you and it seems that I will never have the chance to be with you again for I know you could come up here and stay awhile if you would and if you cared anything for me I'm sure you would. I'm sure there is nothing that would afford me more pleasure than to be with you but if you have foresaken me I will make the best of it I can.

Lizzie, I am not satisfied here by any means and I don't know that it would be any better at home, or anywhere else for you have said you would not have a boy that worked at the hospital. But I knew it before I came here and I sometimes wish that I had taken your advice and never come to this place for I know I placed myself where my life will never be any pleasure to me.

I had jut about as soon be dead as to live as I am living.

Lizzie, tonight eleven weeks ago I was with you althugh it seems almost like a lifetime with me. But I guess the time has been pleasantly spent with you, or at least I hope so.

Lizzie, you told me when I was with you last that you was coming up about the first of November and stay a month. But I guess you forgotten it, or won't come because I am here.

Lizzie, I guess you went to Union today it was such a beautiful day, and I hope passed off the time much pleasanter than I have for the day has seemed almost a week long to me.

Lizzie, I wish you could be here next Sunday. I will be off duty and I would love to talk with you once more.

Well, I will have to close as it is about locking up time and I am about half sick anyway with the headache.

Lizzie, please come up as soon as you get this and stay until Christmas. Bring your fellow with you if you can't come without him. I guess I will spend a day or two at home Christmas if nothing happens. I mentioned it to Mr. Crawford today and today he said he would let me off a few days.

I didn't close when I said I would but I will now, hoping to see you soon.

Write if it suits you. So, bye-bye.

Thomas Noland

P.S. Lizzie, I was about to forget to tell you that I have had some pictures made and if the hawks are bothering your chickens, I will send you one.
Goodnight, sweet dreams. J.T.N. (Please come)

Note: The hospital he refers to in his letter is Bryce Hospital - where he eventually died.

On January 3, 1900 John Thomas Noland and Rebecca Elizabeth Carver were married in Pickens County. Her wedding dress was a beautiful satin and lace creation with many, many tiny buttons down the back. They moved to Gordo where her father and grandfather built them a home on Carver Road. The dress was stored in a trunk which was stored at house after John Thomas died. Apparently, the tenants living in the house later stole the dress for it disappeared out of the trunk



More About JOHN THOMAS NOLAND:
Burial: Gordo Cemetery, Gordo, Pickens Co., AL
Cause of Death: complications from removal of foot due to hardening of the arteries.
Fact 1: 1898, At age 23, working at Bryce Mental Hospital in Tuscaloosa
Fact 2: 1903, appointed postmaster of Mabel, Ala.
Fact 3: 1910, In Gordo, James Carver built them two houses on "Carver Road"
Fact 4: Had a problem with a Morphine addiction for awhile
Fact 5: 1920, Owned a cotton and fertilizer warehouse until it burned down ca 1922
Fact 6: at other times owned a cleaning establishment, a cafe, etc
Fact 7: Children said he was "self centered" and "spoiled".
Fact 8: His older sons all left home very young due to father's abusiveness
Fact 9: Easily depressed and suicidal
Fact 10: Finally was committed to Bryce Hospital in Tuscaloosa
Fact 11: BURIED AT GORDO CEMETERY, GORDO, ALA
Fact 12: HAD DARK HAIR AND BLUE EYES
Fact 13: 03 Jan 1900, Married Rebecca Carver
Medical Information: Tom had suicidal tendencies and was easily depressed; had blue eyes, dark hair. Heart problems; dipped snuff; amputation due to circulation; died from gangrene complications

More About JOHN NOLAND and REBECCA CARVER:
Marriage: 03 Jan 1900, Pickens Co., Ala

Children of REBECCA CARVER and JOHN NOLAND are:
i. JAMES PHILIP6 NOLAND, b. 03 Aug 1900, Pickens Co., Ala; d. 04 Aug 1900, Pickens Co., Ala.

More About JAMES PHILIP NOLAND:
Burial: Liberty Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 1: DIED AS NEWBORN INFANT
Fact 2: BURIED AT LIBERTY CEMETERY, PICKENS CO, ALA

ii. MABEL OPHELIA NOLAND, b. 04 Oct 1901, Pickens Co., Ala; d. Apr 1975, Tuscaloosa, Ala; m. FELIX E WOODWARD, 16 Oct 1926, Birmingham, AL; d. 1936, Birmingham, AL.

Notes for MABEL OPHELIA NOLAND:
Mabel had red hair and hazel eyes. Called 'Red' by her family and friends. After she left home, she went to work for an attorney in Birmingham, AL. She married Felix Woodward. They had a daughter that died as an infant. Felix died shortly thereafter. When WWII began, Mabel went to work for the Civil Service in Virginia. She was the secretary of General Mark Clark in Norfolk following WWII. She worked for the civil service until she retired in 1965. She never remarried. In 1965, she moved to Tuscaloosa and bought a house. She lived there until she died of bone cancer in 1975. As the oldest in the Noland family, she was the domineering one. She helped everyone in her family financially many times. At one point in her life, she drank to excess but overcame that. She seemingly disliked her father, John Thomas Noland, intensely. Primarily because of the way he treated her mother, Lizzie Carver, the whole time she was growing up. After the death of her mother and after several suicide attempts on the part of her father, she had him put into an institution where he died.

More About MABEL OPHELIA NOLAND:
Burial: Tuscaloosa, Ala
Cause of Death: Bone Cancer
Fact 1: had red hair/ called "red" by her friends & family
Fact 2: worked for civil service large part of life
Fact 3: had daughter die as an infant
Fact 4: living in Birmingham when widowed
Fact 5: retired from civil service/moved to Tuscaloosa, AL
Fact 6: died of bone cancer
Medical Information: also had cancer of the breast earlier and had a breast removed; at one time, had a drinking problem.

More About FELIX WOODWARD and MABEL NOLAND:
Marriage: 16 Oct 1926, Birmingham, AL

35. iii. CURTIS HENLEY NOLAND, b. 31 Oct 1903, Pickens Co., Ala; d. 06 Apr 1959, Northport, Ala.
36. iv. SAMUEL CAYCE NOLAND, b. 04 Feb 1905, Pickens Co., Ala; d. 30 May 1976, Warner Robins, GA.
37. v. THOMAS EDGAR NOLAND, b. 22 Aug 1907, Pickens Co., Ala; d. 20 Dec 1980, Tuscaloosa, Ala.
38. vi. MELBA ELIZABETH NOLAND, b. 03 Nov 1911, Gordo, Pickens Co., Ala; d. 17 Jun 1965, Wharton, Texas.
vii. OVELLA MAY NOLAND, b. 16 May 1915, Pickens Co., Ala; d. 02 Aug 1918, Pickens Co., Ala.

More About OVELLA MAY NOLAND:
Cause of Death: colitis when a small child

39. viii. HAROLD BURTON NOLAND, b. 10 Aug 1919, Pickens Co., Ala; d. 30 Jun 1948, Berlin, Germany.
40. ix. GERALD HERSCHEL NOLAND, b. 14 Feb 1922, Gordo, AL; d. 15 May 1991, California.


15. ANDREW JACKSON "COLE"5 CARVER (JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 05 Aug 1881 in PICKENS CO., ALA, and died 14 Jun 1970 in Pickens County, AL. He married ALMA KNOX 29 Nov 1905 in PICKENS CO., ALA. She was born 20 Jul 1886 in Pickens County, AL, and died 09 Mar 1967 in Pickens County, AL.

More About ANDREW JACKSON "COLE" CARVER:
Burial: Gordo Cemetery, Gordo, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 1: NAMED FOR PRIMITIVE BAPTIST PREACHER

More About ALMA KNOX:
Burial: Gordo Cemetery, Gordo, Pickens Co., AL

More About ANDREW CARVER and ALMA KNOX:
Marriage: 29 Nov 1905, PICKENS CO., ALA

Children of ANDREW CARVER and ALMA KNOX are:
i. SELENA BEATRICE6 CARVER, b. 22 Sep 1906.
ii. HILLMAN CARVER.


16. AMANDA FLORENCE5 JORDAN (ANN ELIZABETH4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 03 Feb 1892 in GORDO, ALA, and died 22 Mar 1977 in NORTHPORT, ALA. She married JOSEPH NANCE SHEPHERD.

Child of AMANDA JORDAN and JOSEPH SHEPHERD is:
i. JOSEPH RUFUS6 SHEPHERD, b. 24 Jun 1914.

More About JOSEPH RUFUS SHEPHERD:
Fact 1: PLAYED FOOTBALL AT UNIV OF ALABAMA
Fact 2: CAREER U.S. ARMY OFFICER
Fact 3: RETIRED AS COLONEL
Fact 4: LIVED IN KNOXVILLE, TN
Fact 5: HAD DAU NAMED SUSAN


17. JOHN BRYANT5 JORDAN (ANN ELIZABETH4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 18 Jan 1894 in GORDO, ALA, and died 05 Jan 1954 in MONTGOMERY, ALA. He married LEONA ESTELLE SANDERS 29 Mar 1921 in Aliceville, Alabama, daughter of JOSEPH SANDERS and ALICE STAPP. She was born 21 May 1899 in Garden, Pickens Co., Ala, and died 31 Dec 1929 in Gordo, Pickens Co., Ala.

More About JOHN BRYANT JORDAN:
Burial: Garden Cemetery, Aliceville, Ala
Comment 1: Was a veterinarian
Fact 1: AUNT MOLLIE (CARVER) KEPT HOUSE FOR JOHN JORDAN
Fact 2: THIS WAS AFTER HIS WIFE DIED.
Fact 3: HIS SMALL CHILDREN WERE LIVING WITH OTHER RELATIVES.
Fact 4: His house, on Carver Road, in Gordo was close to Noland's home
Fact 5: And across the street from Green Carver's house

More About LEONA ESTELLE SANDERS:
Burial: Garden Cemetery, Aliceville, Ala
Fact 1: LEONA DIED WHEN CHILDREN WERE VERY YOUNG
Fact 2: WILLIAM LIVED WITH HIS AUNT FLORENCE
Fact 3: JAMES ERSKINE AND GLEN SANDERS LIVED WITH THEIR MATERNAL GR-MOTHER
Fact 4: JOHN BRYANT, JR. LIVED WITH HIS MATERNAL AUNT

More About JOHN JORDAN and LEONA SANDERS:
Marriage: 29 Mar 1921, Aliceville, Alabama

Children of JOHN JORDAN and LEONA SANDERS are:
41. i. WILLIAM DITMER6 JORDAN, b. 05 Feb 1922, Selma, Dallas Co., Ala.
ii. JAMES ERSKINE JORDAN, b. 1924, Gordo, Alabama; m. BARBARA BRIDGES, 27 Jul 1980, Gordo, AL.

More About JAMES JORDAN and BARBARA BRIDGES:
Marriage: 27 Jul 1980, Gordo, AL

iii. JOHN BRYANT JORDAN, JR., b. 19 Apr 1929, Gordo, Alabama; d. 18 Jan 1985, Birmingham, AL; m. BETTY JO GILLILAND, Abt. 1958, Fulton, Mississippi.

More About JOHN BRYANT JORDAN, JR.:
Burial: Garden Cemetery, Aliceville, Ala

More About JOHN JORDAN and BETTY GILLILAND:
Marriage: Abt. 1958, Fulton, Mississippi

iv. GLEN SANDERS JORDAN, b. 1925, Gordo, Alabama; m. PATSY RUTH RANKIN, 14 Oct 1951, Meridian, Mississippi.

More About GLEN JORDAN and PATSY RANKIN:
Marriage: 14 Oct 1951, Meridian, Mississippi


18. LOIS JEAN "BOBIE"5 BAILEY (SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 19 Feb 1889 in PICKENS CO., ALA, and died 16 Dec 1958 in PICKENS CO., ALA. She married JAMES R. KIRK 23 Dec 1908 in Pickens County, AL.

More About JAMES KIRK and LOIS BAILEY:
Marriage: 23 Dec 1908, Pickens County, AL

Children of LOIS BAILEY and JAMES KIRK are:
42. i. JAMES EARLY "JESSI"6 KIRK, d. 21 Apr 1986, Gordo, Pickens Co., AL.
43. ii. EUGENE KIRK, b. 11 May 1911; d. 01 Dec 1934.


19. HURLEY MARTIN5 BAILEY (SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 29 Nov 1891 in Pickens County, AL, and died 31 Jan 1973 in Pickens County, AL. He married MINNIE L. LANCASTER 22 Nov 1915 in Pickens County, AL, daughter of JIM LANCASTER and MARTHA BALLARD.

More About HURLEY BAILEY and MINNIE LANCASTER:
Marriage: 22 Nov 1915, Pickens County, AL

Children of HURLEY BAILEY and MINNIE LANCASTER are:
44. i. MILDRED FRANK6 BAILEY.
45. ii. ROBERT DOUGLAS BAILEY.


20. MATTIE GERTRUDE "BEP"5 BAILEY (SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 30 Mar 1893 in Pickens County, AL, and died 22 Feb 1983 in PICKENS CO., ALA. She married ALBERT T. KIRK, son of JOHN KIRK and EUGENIA CRIMM. He was born 30 Dec 1877.

Notes for MATTIE GERTRUDE "BEP" BAILEY:
Aunt Mabel Noland Woodward took me to visit Bip Bailey Kirk in 1966 to talk about the Carvers.
The only thing that stands out in my mind was the vast confusion on my part as to the many, many marriages between the Carvers, Kirks, Lancasters, etc. Still don't have them straightened out to this day.

More About ALBERT T. KIRK:
Fact 1: ALBERT WAS A DOCTOR
Fact 2: Practiced in Pickens Co., AL
Fact 3: 1902, graduated from University of Tenn.
Fact 4: 1903, Internship in New Orleans
Fact 5: "Horse & buggy doctor" in Kirk community
Fact 6: retired from practice in 1959

Children of MATTIE BAILEY and ALBERT KIRK are:
46. i. PEGGY6 KIRK.
ii. ALBERT THOMAS KIRK, JR..
iii. JOHN ROBERT KIRK.


21. ANNIE KATE5 BAILEY (SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 12 May 1897. She married SAM HOOD BALL.

More About ANNIE KATE BAILEY:
Fact 2: Samuel H. Ball & Annie Katie lived in Florence, AL

Child of ANNIE BAILEY and SAM BALL is:
i. JOE HOOD6 BALL.


22. MARY EDNA "RED"5 BAILEY (SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 23 Feb 1903 in Gordo, Pickens Co., AL, and died 28 Jul 1987 in Northport, AL. She married (1) LAWRENCE DUANE MARBLE 12 Jun 1928 in Reform, AL, son of DUANE MARBLE and MAGDALENA KNAPP. She married (2) KENTON MAURICE MARBLE 19 Oct 1937 in Columbus, Mississippi.

More About LAWRENCE DUANE MARBLE:
Fact 1: Buried at Ashland Cemetery, Ashland, Ohio
Fact 2: Occupation: Standard Oil (SOHIO) Salesman
Fact 3: 1945, moved from Ashland to Mt. Vernon, Ohio
Fact 4: cause of death: heart attack

More About LAWRENCE MARBLE and MARY BAILEY:
Marriage: 12 Jun 1928, Reform, AL

More About KENTON MAURICE MARBLE:
Fact 1: buried at Liberty Church Cemetery, Pickens Co., AL
Fact 2: 05 Dec 1942, in WWII U.S. Navy until October 10, 1945
Fact 3: 16 Jan 1932, Hospital Apprentice Second Class at Hosp. Corps School, Portsmouth, VA
Fact 4: Feb 1945, 1st book of Kent's Diary, WWII in the Pacific
Fact 5: 21 Jul 1945, 2nd book of Kent's Diary, WWII in the Pacific
Fact 6: Apr 1946, Proprietor of Tenn. Tree Service, Murfreesboro, TN
Fact 7: Stepfather to Duane Bradshaw & Sybil Annette
Fact 8: cause of death: heart attack

More About KENTON MARBLE and MARY BAILEY:
Marriage: 19 Oct 1937, Columbus, Mississippi

Children of MARY BAILEY and LAWRENCE MARBLE are:
47. i. DUANE BRADSHAW6 MARBLE, b. 10 Apr 1929, Ashland, Ashland Co, Ohio; d. 29 Apr 1958, Ashland, Ashland Co, Ohio.
48. ii. SYBIL ANNETTE MARBLE, b. 06 Jun 1933, Ashland, Ashland Co., Ohio; d. 29 Oct 1983, Tampa, Florida.


23. NANCY MARY "NANNIE MAE)5 KIRK (MARY ELLEN/MOLLIE4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 24 Jan 1891, and died 1976. She married HURDIS THOMSON, son of RICHARD THOMSON and ESTELLE BAILEY.

Notes for NANCY MARY "NANNIE MAE) KIRK:
Interviewed Nannie Kirk Thomson in 1966. As a grand-dau of Green Carver, she told me about the family tradition that the Carvers had left North Carolina from Raleigh, NC and when they settled in Pickens Co., Ala they named the settlement Raleigh. She owned a large chest of drawers which had come to Alabama with the Carvers and it was constructed with pegs instead of nails. Of course, later research would show that the Carvers had lived in Person Co., NC. That is a good distance from Raleigh. However, it is possible that the trek to Alabama had indeed "started" in Raleigh. Whatever the truth of the matter, there was a community called "Raleigh" in Pickens Co., Ala and it was in the vicinity where the Carvers had their land.

Child of NANCY KIRK and HURDIS THOMSON is:
49. i. MARY EDNA6 THOMSON.


24. HURDIS LEON5 DANIEL (MARY ELLEN/MOLLIE4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 05 Feb 1906. He married BESSIE MIMS in MONROEVILLE, WILCOX CO, ALA.

More About HURDIS DANIEL and BESSIE MIMS:
Marriage: MONROEVILLE, WILCOX CO, ALA

Children of HURDIS DANIEL and BESSIE MIMS are:
i. ELEANOR6 DANIEL.
ii. DOROTHY DANIEL.
iii. MARGARET DANIEL.
iv. JOHN HURDIS DANIEL.
v. TED DANIEL.
vi. RAYMOND ALLEN DANIEL.
vii. DAVID DANIEL.


Generation No. 4

25. DOSHIE LEE6 SNIDER (MAGGIE EDNA5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 1896 in Pickens Co., AL, and died 1958. She married JOHN GAY CABANISS. He was born 1884, and died 1968.

Children of DOSHIE SNIDER and JOHN CABANISS are:
i. JAMES7 CABANISS.
ii. JACK CABANISS.
iii. ANNIE MAUDE CABANISS.


26. SARAH ELIZABETH "LIZZIE"6 SNIDER (MAGGIE EDNA5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 1899 in Pickens Co., AL. She married ROBERT ERNEST HARRISON.

Children of SARAH SNIDER and ROBERT HARRISON are:
i. ELAINE7 HARRISON, b. 1919; m. BUNT KIRBY.
ii. MARY LANE HARRISON, b. 1921; d. 1996; m. DAVID HADLEY.
iii. STANCEL HARRISON, b. 1925; d. 1995.
iv. WILLIE MAE HARRISON, b. 1926; m. ROY LEWIS.
v. DALTON LEE HARRISON, b. 1934.
vi. ETHEL LOUISE HARRISON, b. 1936.


27. JOSEPH BRYANT6 SNIDER (MAGGIE EDNA5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 1903, and died 1979. He married BESSIE LORENA GAY. She was born 1908.

Children of JOSEPH SNIDER and BESSIE GAY are:
50. i. CLAYTON7 SNIDER, b. 1926; d. 1998.
ii. EDNA EMMERINE SNIDER, b. 1927; m. FOX HENDERSON.
iii. ERNIE MARIE SNIDER, b. 1930; m. KNOX MILLER HURST.
iv. CLEO GAY SNIDER, b. 1933; m. JAMES W. STEWART.
v. CLENNON SNIDER, b. 1933.
vi. HELEN RUBY SNIDER, b. 1936; m. BILLY RAY WEBB.
vii. NELLIE JO SNIDER, b. 1937; m. GEORGE PAUL ALEXANDER.


28. MINNIE6 SNIDER (MAGGIE EDNA5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 1905, and died 1973. She married JOHN WILLIAM FALLON. He was born 1902, and died 1987.

Children of MINNIE SNIDER and JOHN FALLON are:
i. DONALD7 FALLON, b. 1930.
ii. AUDREY FALLON, b. 1925.


29. ROMAN6 SNIDER (MAGGIE EDNA5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 1909, and died 1986. He married VERA LAYTON.

Children of ROMAN SNIDER and VERA LAYTON are:
i. WILBURN7 SNIDER.
ii. JERRY SNIDER.


30. FLORA RAE6 SNIDER (MAGGIE EDNA5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 1912, and died 1951. She married ARTHUR GAY.

Children of FLORA SNIDER and ARTHUR GAY are:
i. BOBBY GENE7 GAY, b. 1932.
ii. BILLY JO GAY, b. 1938.


31. EMMETT6 SNIDER (MAGGIE EDNA5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 1914, and died 1958. He married PEARL WINNINGHAM. She was born 1912.

Child of EMMETT SNIDER and PEARL WINNINGHAM is:
51. i. ROBERT7 SNIDER, b. 1933; d. 1969.


32. BERTHA6 LANCASTER (REBECCA PARRIE5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) died in MONTGOMERY, ALA. She married OSCAR WATKINS.

Children of BERTHA LANCASTER and OSCAR WATKINS are:
i. CARL7 WATKINS.
ii. LARRY WATKINS.


33. OPAL6 LANCASTER (REBECCA PARRIE5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) She married HOWARD BERNARD.

Children of OPAL LANCASTER and HOWARD BERNARD are:
i. GWEN7 BERNARD.
ii. CRAIG BERNARD.


34. BERNICE OTTICE6 LANCASTER (REBECCA PARRIE5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) She married SAMUEL VIRGIL POWELL 17 Jan 1922 in Columbus, Mississippi, son of ANDREW POWELL and MARTHA CURRY. He was born 23 Nov 1889 in Union Community, Pickens Co., AL.

More About SAMUEL VIRGIL POWELL:
Fact 1: lived early at Speeds Mill, Mantua and Union Communities
Fact 2: Operated sawmills
Fact 3: 1933, Moved to Gordo, Alabama

More About SAMUEL POWELL and BERNICE LANCASTER:
Marriage: 17 Jan 1922, Columbus, Mississippi

Children of BERNICE LANCASTER and SAMUEL POWELL are:
i. BERNICE7 POWELL.
ii. SAMUEL POWELL, m. REBECCA MOSS.
iii. GENE POWELL, m. CHRIS ESTES.
iv. JOE POWELL.
v. SABRA POWELL, m. MAX NELSON.
vi. MARY POWELL, m. MAX PARHAM.


35. CURTIS HENLEY6 NOLAND (REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 31 Oct 1903 in Pickens Co., Ala, and died 06 Apr 1959 in Northport, Ala. He married GRACE BRYAN 05 May 1927.

Notes for CURTIS HENLEY NOLAND:
CURTIS HENLEY NOLAND left home early due to an abusive father. He stayed with relatives in Reform and finished high school. While in school, he played football and hurt his back which gave him problems all his life. He worked in sawmills and cutting timber after graduating from high school. He then went to work for Fawcett Bros General Store and worked the rest of his life as a shopkeeper. He and family lived in Northport, Ala most of his life. Curtis was a gentle, kind-hearted man who was well-loved by all who knew him. He was a handsome man with dark hair and a deep dimple in his chin. Curtis died of a heart attack.

More About CURTIS HENLEY NOLAND:
Burial: Tuscaloosa, Ala
Cause of Death: massive heart attack
Fact 1: LEFT HOME EARLY DUE TO CHILD ABUSE
Fact 2: WORKED IN SAWMILLS AND CUTTING TIMBER
Fact 3: MOST OF HIS LIFE, WORKED AS SHOPKEEPER
Fact 4: LIVED IN NORTHPORT, ALA MOST OF LIFE
Fact 5: GENTLE, KIND-HEARTED MAN
Fact 6: WELL-LOVED BY ALL WHO KNEW HIM
Fact 7: died of massive heart attack

More About CURTIS NOLAND and GRACE BRYAN:
Marriage: 05 May 1927

Child of CURTIS NOLAND and GRACE BRYAN is:
52. i. MARTHA CAROLYN7 NOLAND, b. 25 Oct 1934, Electric Mills, Mississippi.


36. SAMUEL CAYCE6 NOLAND (REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 04 Feb 1905 in Pickens Co., Ala, and died 30 May 1976 in Warner Robins, GA. He married MAYME KINDRED 08 Apr 1928 in Saco, Ala.

Notes for SAMUEL CAYCE NOLAND:
Samuel Cayce Noland left home as a teen-ager and joined the Navy due to an abusive father. Cayce had a great sense of humor, loved to hunt and fish above all else. He worked for civil service at a SAC base near Warner Robins, GA where he and his family lived until his death. Cayce died of bone cancer. When growing up, Cayce and his brothers were constantly into mischief. The people in town...in particularly the blacks, who Cayce tormented constantly...referred to them as "them Cayce Nolands'.

More About SAMUEL CAYCE NOLAND:
Burial: Warner Robins, GA
Cause of Death: bone Cancer
Fact 1: lived in Warner Robins, GA most of life
Fact 2: worked at SAC base there
Fact 3: avid hunter and fisherman
Fact 4: great sense of humor
Fact 5: died of bone cancer

More About SAMUEL NOLAND and MAYME KINDRED:
Marriage: 08 Apr 1928, Saco, Ala

Children of SAMUEL NOLAND and MAYME KINDRED are:
53. i. KATHRYN ELIZABETH NOLAND7 (BETTY), b. 08 Jul 1929, Saco, Ala.
54. ii. MARY SUE NOLAND, b. 27 May 1932, Saco, Ala; d. 10 Apr 1994, Ft. Walton, FL.
55. iii. JOHN THOMAS NOLAND (TOMMY), b. 13 May 1936, Saco, Ala; d. 24 Jan 1989.
56. iv. HAROLD WOODWARD NOLAND, b. 27 Jul 1949, Macon, GA.


37. THOMAS EDGAR6 NOLAND (REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 22 Aug 1907 in Pickens Co., Ala, and died 20 Dec 1980 in Tuscaloosa, Ala. He married LILUA JONES [SMITH] 11 Jan 1936. She was born 13 Jun 1911 in Gordo, Alabama, and died 09 Mar 2002 in Centreville, AL.

Notes for THOMAS EDGAR NOLAND:
Thomas Edgar Noland was a handsome man and devoted to his family. He and family lived most of his married life in Tuscaloosa, Al, where he was an engineer at a chemical plant. He died of heart failure following back surgery.
He, too, left home early due to an abusive father. When he was unable to join the Navy like his brother, he became a traveling salesman. After his marriage, he operated the Coco-Cola plant in Gordo for a few years. Then he and family moved to Tuscaloosa, AL. 'Dutch' loved to hunt and fish and was a wonderful family man.

His birth name was Thomas Huistis Noland. However, he disliked the name deeply and when he became of age, changed his middle name to Edgar.

OBITUARY
GRAVESIDE SERVICES FOR THOMAS E. NOLAND, 73, OF 2415 6TH sT. e., WHO DIED SATURDAY AT WEST ALABAMA GENERAL HOSPITAL, WILL BE AT 2:30 PM TUESDAY AT MEMORY HILL GARDENS WITH THE REV. RAIFORD ETHERTON OFFICIATING. HAYES CHAPEL FUNERAL HOME WILL BE IN CHARGE OF BURIAL HE IS SURVIVED BY HIS WIFE, MRS. LILUA JONES NOLAND, TUSCALOOSA; A DAUGHER, MRS. JUNE CROWDER, DALLAS, TEXAS; A SON, PHILLIP C. NOLAND, TULSA, OKLA; TWO GRANDCHILDREN. HONORARY PALLBEARERS WILL BE MEMBERS OF THE ALBERTA METHODIST CHURCH, RETIRED AND PRESENT EMPLOYEES OF REICHHOLD CHEMICAL CO., FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS OF WEST ALABAMA GENERAL BAPTIST. HE WAS EMPLOYED BY REICHHOLD CHEMICAL CO FOR MORE THAN 29 YEARS UNTIL HIS RETIREMENT. HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE ALBERTA METHODIST CHURCH.

More About THOMAS EDGAR NOLAND:
Burial: Memory Hill Gardens, Tuscaloosa, Ala
Cause of Death: heart failure following surgery on his back
Fact 1: ENGINEER AT REICHHOLD CHEMICAL PLANT
Fact 2: LIVED IN TUSCALOOSA MOST OF MARRIED LIFE
Fact 3: BURIED IN TUSCALOOSA, ALA
Fact 4: died of cardiac arrest following back surgery
Fact 5: avid hunter and fisherman
Fact 6: wonderful father and husband
Fact 7: nicknamed "Dutch" by his family

Notes for LILUA JONES [SMITH]:
Lilua Jones was in Columbus, MS attending beauticians school when she met Clyde Smith. The info I get is this: Clyde and Lilua married in 1930 after it was learned that Lilua was pregnant with her dau June. They never lived together since Clyde left immediately to return to the service. Perhaps he felt bitter that he had been "forced" into marriage...I don't know. At any rate, Lilua returned to Pickens County, AL and her mother's home in Gordo. Her mother and other members of her family decided to have wedding annulled despite the fact that Lilua was pregnant. After June was born, Lilua worked as a beautician in Gordo. Apparently, from information from the Smith family, members of that family remained close to Lilua and June and tried to help. For the first year or so, Clyde ignored the situation and made no attempt to be a part of his daughter's life. In the meantime, Lilua started "seeing" Dutch Noland and married him in 1936. From time to time, Clyde would send money to Lilua to be used for June but Dutch refused it and refused to let Clyde see June. June was raised as Dutch's child and Clyde's name was never mentioned. June was under the impression that Dutch had adopted her. Many years passed and in 1980 Dutch Noland died following surgery on his back. It was about this time that June discovered that she had never been adopted by Dutch, that her legal name was Smith. And, finally, Lilua's son with Dutch...Phillip...was told that June was his half sister, something he had not known. June became very bitter. Then in late 1981, Lilua was contacted by Clyde, himself a widower from Jackson, MS. His sister had seen Dutch's obit in paper. He started to travel to Tuscaloosa to "call" on Lilua. Lilua's children both lived very far away and were in no position to visit her often. She therefore enjoyed Clyde's company. Eventually, June learned that her mother was seeing and spending time with Clyde and the difficulties began. She was furious and refused to meet him. She told her mother that if Clyde was going to be around, she would no longer visit Lilua. Lilua was very distressed. Phillip Noland met Clyde and told his mother that she should see whomever she wished to. June's daughter, Leslie, while visiting her grandmother met and became close to Clyde. Clyde had no other children, other than June, so her children were Clyde's only grandchildren. So, Lilua and Clyde continued to see each other quietly and took care of each other...nursing one another when they became sick. Marriage, however, was out of the question due to June's increasing hositility re the matter. So, a strange situation evolved. Lilua and Clyde spent all their time together...except when June would visit and then he would disappear. Lilua never mentioned Clyde in June's presence. Leslie continued to see Clyde. Their health declined and Lilua in particular became more and more feeble. Finally, when Clyde was 90 and Lilua was 88 they decided to make arrangements where they could spend the rest of their lives together in an assisted living facility where they shared a two bedroom apt. Lilua gave up her apt and Clyde gave up his home in Jackson. Unfortunately, combined with the stress of moving her belongings and June's continued objections, Lilua became very disoriented and afflicted with dementia. She was moved into a different room where the care was more like a hospital care unit. Clyde remained in the apt on a different floor. His devotion was no less, however, and each and every day he would go downstairs with ice cream or flowers or some token of his love and see Lilua. When winter rolled around in 1999, Lilua's condition worsened and June decided to move her to Seattle, WA. Lilua rallied however and refused to be moved since she feared that if she left, Clyde would die. In January 2000, Clyde was hospitalized with pneumonia and while being treated for that, suffered a massive heart attack and died on Jan 13. Lilua was bereft and lost...heartbroken at being left behind. When he was buried in Columbus on January 15, Lilua's niece, Shirla, and her granddaughter Leslie accompanied her to the graveside service. Since she was so weak, she sat in a car nearby during the service. Clyde died at age 90 1/2 and Lilua was 89.

More About LILUA JONES [SMITH]:
Burial: 11 Mar 2002, Memory Hill Gardens, Tuscaloosa, Ala
Fact 1: OCCUPATION: BEAUTICIAN

More About THOMAS NOLAND and LILUA [SMITH]:
Marriage: 11 Jan 1936

Children of THOMAS NOLAND and LILUA [SMITH] are:
57. i. JUNE7 NOLAND, b. 14 Apr 1931; Adopted child.
ii. PHILIP CARVER NOLAND, b. 08 Jan 1947, Tuscaloosa, Ala; m. MARY DELL ROSENCUTTER, 17 Apr 1985, Mexico.

Notes for PHILIP CARVER NOLAND:
Philip Carver Noland graduated from the University of Alabama as an engineer. He is a tall, blond, blue eyed good looking guy. He went to work primarily for oil companies and for years he specialized in helping middle east countries build refineries. He traveled primarily to the middle east while living in Tulsa, OK. Then he went to work for another company, essentially the same type of job, but now he travels all over the globe as the expert on how to build refineries or solve problems that countries have with theirs. He married but has no children. He presently lives near Columbus, Ohio. His traveling takes him away from home 9 months out of the year. His frequent flyer miles after cashed out enables his wife, Mary, to change the furniture throughout their home every three months. She is now in the decorating business. In 1997, Philip and Mary moved to Singapore. He will travel from that area.

More About PHILIP CARVER NOLAND:
Comment 1: had no children
Fact 1: Grew up in Tuscaloosa, AL
Fact 2: Attended the University of Alabama
Fact 3: Occupation: Engineer
Fact 4: lived in Tulsa, Okla a number of years
Fact 5: 1997, moved to Singapore in the orient
Fact 6: 2000, MOVED FROM SINGAPORE BACK TO TULSA, OK
Fact 7: 2000, OPENED A STORE IN TULSA, SELLING TREASURES FROM ASIA

More About PHILIP NOLAND and MARY ROSENCUTTER:
Marriage: 17 Apr 1985, Mexico


38. MELBA ELIZABETH6 NOLAND (REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 03 Nov 1911 in Gordo, Pickens Co., Ala, and died 17 Jun 1965 in Wharton, Texas. She married FRED ALBERT RATHJEN8 16 Aug 1930 in Carrollton, Pickens Co., Ala9, son of FREDERICK RATHJEN and DELIA COPELAND. He was born 10 May 1900 in High Hill, Lavaca Co., Texas, and died 16 Nov 1974 in Dexter, MO.

Notes for MELBA ELIZABETH NOLAND:
Melba Elizabeth Noland had dark eyes, black hair, was slender with a brilliant smile. She finished high school at the head of her class. She met her future husband, Fred Rathjen, when he came through Gordo laying the "Big Inch" pipeline from Texas to Georgia to carry oil. They married in 1930 and began traveling with the pipeline. Altho the depression was in full swing, there was still some pipelining work. They had twin boys born dead in Oskaloosa, Iowa. Following that, they went to live with Fred's parents in west Texas for a year or so while the depression closed everything down. In 1933, Fred began trucking again and then back into pipelining. In 1935, they had a baby daughter, Shirla, while living in West Texas. The dust bowl days were going on; Melba had many horror stories to tell of those times. They were pipelining and in Louisiana when WWII began in 1941. Fred took family to Houston while he worked in Freeport constructing the Dow Chemical Plants for the war effort. In 1943, they were finally able to buy a small house in Freeport and moved there. Melba had a marvelous sense of humor, a lovely singing voice and a fierce temper, too. She worked initially as a clerk in a store; then went to work as a dental hygenist. She and Fred belonged to Order of Eastern star in Freeport, TX. She was an excellent seamtress and made most of her own clothes and her daughter's. In 1955, she began working in real estate sales. Melba died of leukemia, of four months duration. She is buried in South Park Cemetery in Pearland (Houston) Texas. This was due to the fact that she didn't want to be buried on the coast at Freeport; when hurricanes blew in, all that area was underwater and she couldn't stand the thought of being under water. Melba had curvature of the spine but learned to walk straight; had a hysterectomy in her 40's; gum disease resulted in false teeth early in life; began wearing tri-focals fairly early in life. She had small pox as child and the Noland house was quarantined.

NOTES FROM SHIRLA HOWARD ABOUT MY MOTHER, MELBA NOLAND RATHJEN:

Melba Salenia/Elizabeth Noland was born Nov 3, 1911 in Gordo, AL at home. She grew up in the house where she was born in Gordo, AL. Being a middle child...with several older brothers and an older sister, she was somewhat spoiled. Although her father ws abusive to her older brothers (and mother)....and this must have occurred in her young years, she apparently was pampered. She graduated from high school with honors. Her younger brothers...Mutt and Jeff...told me when I was a child how in awe of her they were when they were growing up. She had a fearsome temper, like her father, but also had a wonderful sense of humor and a delight in life. She was a lovely young woman with dark hair, dark eyes and a brilliant smile. She resembled her Aunt Ophelia Noland, who had died quite young and was the beloved only daughter of her grandmother Annie Stapp Noland...and a sister of her father. Aunt Mabel always thought that it was this resemblance to Ophelia that caused her father to be so gentle on her. Too, her grandmother Annie Stapp Noland lived in their home for some years prior to her death.

While her mother taught her the rudiments of keeping house, cleaning, etc...Melba was never allowed in the kitchen. Therefore, when she married she knew how to cook nothing! Her husband, my father, taught her how to cook. It took a long time, but she eventually became an excellent cook. She also taught herself how to sew during the depression because they couldn't afford to buy clothes. As a child, I remember Mother to be a fanatic with her house keeping. Everything had to be "just so", nothing out of place. Growing up, I can recall oiling the furniture as my job. I scrubbed the bathroom, too, but I was not allowed into the kitchen until after the meal...when it was my job to do the dishes. It was my father who finally took me into the kitchen when I was a senior in high school...and began to teach me how to cook some things. These were primarily fried foods, mashed potatoes, fried potatoes, beans, etc.

Because of my peculiar shape...large bosum and relatively slim hips and rear, it was difficult to buy clothesthat fit well. Therefore, throughout my years in school, mother made all my clothes (except for sweaters, jeans, etc). She took pride in making suits, complete with linings. She even made a winter coat one time. This craft, too, she refused to teach me. She said it was because she was afraid I'd tear up her beloved sewing machine. However, I came to realize that it was because she was too impatient to teach a young girl to sew.

Having been raised in the deep south where it was unfashionable for a young woman to have tanned skin...indeed, if she was quality, she had creamy, soft white skin...she was reluctant to spend much time outdoors. Since mother was convinced that pale skin was necessary to be a "lady"...she had a hard time accepting the custom of all young women when I was growing up...of laying out and getting as deep a tan as possible. Since I spent a great deal of time on the beach swimming and playing volleyball, etc, I didn't have to lay out like a beached whale in order to tan. I tanned easily despite being a blonde. I never sunburned...sometimes I would turn red but the next day it was all brown. I never peeled. Often my tan was so deep, mother and daddy would frown and say I looked like an albino mexican. Dark skin, white hair and blue eyes. About the time I graduated from high school, I noticed one of my parents' good friends. She was in the sun all the time fishing and gardening. She was in her 40s but had a heavily lined face, almost like leather. When I commented on her appearance, Mother replied that it was due to her exposure to the sun so much. At that moment, I stopped any "sun bathing" to deliberately get a tan.

Mother was primarily a homemaker most of her life. However, when I was about ten or twelve, she became bored with staying at home. She expressed a desire to go to work and to use the money she earned to buy some things she needed for the house. This was shortly after the end of the war and they had done without any "new" things for a long time. Daddy was incensed tht she would want to work, as though it was slap at his ability to provide for her. This led to many arguments and eventually they discussed divorce. However, this disagreement blew over and she went to work as a clerk in a store. She worked there for a few years and then went to work as a dental hygengist for a dentist. After a few years working for him, she took her tests and went to work selling real estate. She made very good money doing this. She enjoyed immensely this type of work, too.

Mother didn't have any hobbies. She was, however, an expert seamtress and was extremely creative with her work. She also had a beautiful soprano voice. As she worked around the house, she would sing "Oh, What a Beautiful Morning" and it was a joy to hear her sing.

Mother had a fearsome temper, explosive and she could say biting things while she was mad. When I was growing up, and she would get mad, I would have preferred a beating than having to listen to her harangue me and berate me. These "lectures" went on for a long time. I don't recall any specifics as to why she was angry.



Mother's name at birth was MELBA SALENIA NOLAND, named after her maternal grandmother [HANNAH SALENIA LOVE]. She, however, thought the name Salenia sounded "slimey" and so when she got older, changed her name to MELBA ELIZABETH NOLAND.

More About MELBA ELIZABETH NOLAND:
Burial: Pearland, Texas
Cause of Death: leukemia
Comment 1: 1930, when married, didn't know how to cook anything
Comment 2: always stylish, loved beautiful clothes and jewelry
Comment 3: afraid of the water so wouldn't boat or swim
Comment 4: loved to travel; a tourist at heart
Comment 6: May 1931, HAd twin boys born dead in Iowa; black hair and dark eyes
Fact 1: 1931, had twins born dead in Oskaloosa, Iowa10
Fact 2: 1930, had dark eyes, black hair; was slender, brilliant smile
Fact 3: 1955, began working in real estate sales
Fact 4: MARVELOUS SENSE OF HUMOR
Fact 5: LOVELY SINGING VOICE
Fact 6: 1965, BURIED IN SOUTH PARK CEMETERY, PEARLAND, TEXAS
Fact 7: BELONGED TO ORDER OF EASTERN STAR IN FREEPORT, TX
Fact 8: EXCELLENT SEAMTRESS
Fact 9: 1965, Died of Leukemia
Fact 10: 16 Aug 1930, Married Fred Rathjen, at courthouse in Carrollton, AL
Medical Information: HAD CURVATURE OF THE SPINE BUT LEARNED TO WALK STRAIGHT; HAD A HYSTERECTOMY IN HER 40'S; GUM DISEASE RESULTED IN FALSE TEETH EARLY IN LIFE; BEGAN WEARING TRI-FOCALS FAIRLY EARLY IN LIFE. SMALL POX

Notes for FRED ALBERT RATHJEN:
FRED ALBERT RATHJEN, B. 10 MAY 1900 AT HIGH HILL, LAVACA CO., TX, NEAR SCHULENBERG, TEXAS. WHEN HE WAS SEVEN YEARS OLD, HIS FAMILY MOVED TO GOULDBUSK ARA IN WEST TEXAS. FRED QUIT SCHOOL AFTER THE 8TH GRADE. HE TRIED FARMING FOR A YEAR BUT LOST HIS CROP DUE TO HAIL. THEN HE WENT TO WORK AS A "ROUGHNECK" IN THE OIL FIELDS. HE THEN WENT TO WORK ON PIPELINES. HE WAS THE FOREMAN ON THE JOB THAT LAID THE "BIG INCH" LINE FROM TEXAS TO SAVANNAH, GA WHICH CARRIED THE FIRST NATURAL GAS TO THE EAST COAST. HE MET MELBA NOLAND WHILE LAYING THIS LINE ACROSS THE SIPSEY SWAMP IN PICKENS CO., ALA, AND EVENTUALLY MARRIED HER IN CARROLLTON, ALA ON 16 AUG 1930. WITH THE START OF WWII, HE QUIT PIPELINING AND SETTLED IN FREEPORT, TEXAS DOING DEFENSE WORK AND CONSTRUCTING THE GIANT DOW CHEMICAL PLANTS THAT MADE ALUMINUM FOR THE WAR EFFORT. HE AND MELBA PURCHASED A HOME IN 1942/43 AND THEY LIVED THERE UNTIL MELBA DIED. HE SOLD THE HOUSE SHORTLY THEREAFTER, MOVING TO BEAUMONT, TEXAS TO BE CLOSE TO HIS DAUGHTER, SHIRLA, AND HIS GRANDCHILDREN. FRED WAS 6'1", BEGAN BALDING AT AGE 18, BLONDE HAIR AND BLUE EYES. WEIGHED ABOUT 190 LBS DURING PRIME OF LIFE. HE WORE A SIZE 10 SHOE AND A SIZE 6 7/8 HAT. HE HAD A HEART ATTACK IN 1960, A MAJOR STROKE WHICH LEFT HIM PARTIALLY PARALYZED IN 1966. HE HAD AN ULCER IN 1968. HE SMOKED FOR FIFTY YEARS BUT QUIT COLD TURKEY WHEN HE GOT THE ULCER. HE HAD ARTHRITIS SEVERELY FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS OF HIS LIFE. DUE TO THE STROKE, HE WAS UNABLE TO SPEAK CLEARLY AND COULD NOT USE HIS RIGHT HAND. FRED WAS A QUIET, SOFT-SPOKEN MAN, WELL LIKED BY ALL THAT KNEW HIM. HE WAS A MAN OF HONOR AND HIS WORD WAS HIS BOND. HE LOVED THE OUTDOORS, PRIMARILY FISHING. HE ENJOYED HOBBIES THAT ALLOWED HIM TO WORK WITH HIS HANDS; WOOD-WORKING, ETC. HE MOVED IN 1973 TO STODDARD CO., MO AFTER HIS DAUGHTER REMARRIED AND MOVED THERE. HE DIED NOVEMBER 16, 1974 IN DEXTER, MO OF COMPLICATIONS DUE TO HEART. HE DIED OF KIDNEY FAILURE, A RESULT OF GANGRENE OF THE INTESTINE, WHICH IN TURN HAD BEEN CAUSED BY AN ERRATIC HEART. HE IS BURIED AT SOUTH PARK CEMETERY, PEARLAND, TEXAS. FRED WAS A MEMBER OF THE MASONIC LODGE FOR MANY YEARS AND THE ORDER OF THE EASTERN STAR. HIS OCCUPATION IN FREEPORT WAS A PIPEFITTER IN THE CONSTRUCTION FIELD. IN 1931, FRED AND MELBA HAD TWIN BOYS THAT DIED AT BIRTH.

More About FRED ALBERT RATHJEN:
Burial: Pearland, Texas
Cause of Death: DIED OF GANGRENE OF INTESTINE/HEART COMPLICATIONS
Comment 1: Aug 1941, Lived in Houston, TX (newspaper article)
Fact 1: OCCUPATION WAS PIPE FITTER
Fact 2: 1929, FOREMAN ON JOB THAT LAID THE "BIG INCH" FROM TEXAS TO GA
Fact 3: ONLY WENT TO SCHOOL THROUGH THE 8TH GRADE
Fact 4: AS BOY, RODE "DRAG" ON TRAIL DRIVES FROM TEXAS TO KS
Fact 5: PARENTS LOST FARM DURING DEPRESSION
Fact 6: BEGAN TO BALD AT AGE 18
Fact 7: QUIET SPOKEN MAN, HIS WORD WAS HIS BOND
Fact 8: LOVED TO FISH OVER ALL ELSE
Fact 9: ENJOYED WOOD CRAFTS AND WORKING WITH HIS HANDS
Fact 10: QUIT SMOKING AFTER 50 YRS WHEN HE GOT ULCER
Fact 11: BURIED IN SOUTH PARK CEMETERY, PEARLAND, TEXAS
Fact 12: ATTENDED CHURCH OF CHRIST AS A CHILD
Fact 13: MEMBER OF MASONIC LODGE AND EASTERN STAR
Medical Information: HAD HEART ATTACK AND MAJOR STROKE; HAD ARTHRITIS BADLY; HAD TO GET FALSE TEETH EARLY; HAD STOMACH ULCER; BALD BY AGE 18; HEAVY SMOKER MOST OF LIFE; HAD ULCER; FALSE TEETH;

Marriage Notes for MELBA NOLAND and FRED RATHJEN:
Fred Rathjen was the foreman on the "Big Inch" pipeline being laid from Texas through the south to Savannah, GA. When the pipeline reached the area around Gordo, Ala., heavy rains set in and Sipsey Swamp (which lay between Gordo and Tuscaloosa) became flooded and the crews were unable to lay the lines across the swamp. As was usual when nature caused problems, the crew just rested wherever they were until things got better. Daddy was staying in Gordo. John Thomas Noland owned and operated a cafe in Gordo. Melba Noland, his daughter would helpout in the cafe from time to time. The first time Fred went into the cafe, Melba was waiting on tables. She was about 17 1/2. Fred was struck by her beauty and dazzling smile. In order to get her to stop at his table and talk...he kept ordering glasses of milk. The first nite he ordered about 12 glasses of milk. They got acquainted and he returned frequently to the cafe before asking permission to call on her. The "layover" lasted about a month at which time he had to move on with the pipeline. Fred and Melba corresponded over the next nine months or so. In August 1930, he returned to Gordo. On August 16, 1930 Fred and Melba were married by a Justice of the Peace at the Pickens County Courthouse in Carrollton, AL. Fred often said that it took him several years before he could drink any more milk!

More About FRED RATHJEN and MELBA NOLAND:
Death of one spouse: 17 Jun 1965, Wharton, Texas at hospital
Marriage: 16 Aug 1930, Carrollton, Pickens Co., Ala11
Marriage date: MARRIED AT PICKENS CO, AL COURTHOUSE IN CARROLLTON

Child of MELBA NOLAND and FRED RATHJEN is:
58. i. SHIRLA JEAN7 RATHJEN, b. 27 Jun 1935, Coleman, Texas.


39. HAROLD BURTON6 NOLAND (REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 10 Aug 1919 in Pickens Co., Ala, and died 30 Jun 1948 in Berlin, Germany. He married JUANITA JONES. She died 12 Aug 1978 in New Mexico.

Notes for HAROLD BURTON NOLAND:
Harold Burton (Mutt) Noland had red hair and blue eyes. He attended the University of Alabama and majored in chemistry. He learned to fly while in college. Mutt had a photographic memory. After college, he became a career air force officer. During WWII, he trained fighter pilots in Texas. After WWII, he was sent to Germany. Mutt was killed in an airplane crash during the Berlin Airlift. He is buried in Gordo next to his parents.

More About HAROLD BURTON NOLAND:
Burial: Gordo Cemetery, Gordo, Pickens Co., AL
Cause of Death: plane crash during Berlin Airlift following WWII
Fact 1: CALLED "MUTT" BY HIS FAMILY
Fact 2: ATTENDED UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA
Fact 3: MAJORED IN CHEMISTRY
Fact 4: HAD A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY
Fact 5: CAREER AIR FORCE OFFICER
Fact 6: DURING WWII, TRAINED FIGHTER PILOTS
Fact 7: 1948, KILLED AIRPLANE CRASH DURING BERLIN AIRLIFT
Fact 8: BURIED IN GORDO NEXT TO HIS PARENTS

More About HAROLD NOLAND and JUANITA JONES:
Death of one spouse: 1948, GERMANY

Children of HAROLD NOLAND and JUANITA JONES are:
59. i. REBECCA ELIZABETH7 NOLAND, b. 27 Oct 1944.
60. ii. FRANCES ANN NOLAND, b. 19 Oct 1946, Sherman, Texas.


40. GERALD HERSCHEL6 NOLAND (REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 14 Feb 1922 in Gordo, AL, and died 15 May 1991 in California. He married LOUISE FRYE 19 Aug 1941 in Camp Springs, Maryland.

Notes for GERALD HERSCHEL NOLAND:
"Jeff" left home when he was sixteen yrs old and joined the Marine Corps. He as a Marine pilot. During WWII, he flew supplies over the "Hump" in China to the Flying Tigers fighting the Japs. During the Korean War, he flew hospital planes, taking the wounded back to California from Korea. He and his family lived most of his life in Costa Mesa, Calif. He retired from the Corps when he was about 36, returned to college and got a degree in engineering. While attending college, he worked as "Riverboat Captain" at Disney Land. Upon getting his degree, he worked as a city engineer. He and his wife, Louise, loved to travel and take cruises. He came down with cancer which went into remission for awhile. Some years later, he died of a massive heart attack following surgery to remove the cancer. Jeff had a delightful sense of humor and could tell jokes and stories better than anyone I have ever known. According to his siblings, Jeff was the most stubborn and determined individual they'd ever known.

More About GERALD HERSCHEL NOLAND:
Burial: California
Cause of Death: Heart attack following surgery for cancer
Fact 1: nicknamed "Jeff" by his father
Medical Information: HAD CANCER

More About GERALD NOLAND and LOUISE FRYE:
Marriage: 19 Aug 1941, Camp Springs, Maryland

Children of GERALD NOLAND and LOUISE FRYE are:
61. i. GERALD HERSCHEL7 NOLAND, JR (JERRY), b. 20 Oct 1942, Fayette, Ala.
62. ii. JAY STEVEN (STEVE) NOLAND, b. 16 Oct 1949, Cherry Point, NC.


41. WILLIAM DITMER6 JORDAN (JOHN BRYANT5, ANN ELIZABETH4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 05 Feb 1922 in Selma, Dallas Co., Ala. He married CAROLYN CARTER 30 Aug 1947 in Laurel, Jones Co., MS. She was born 01 Apr 1925 in laurel, Mississippi.

More About WILLIAM DITMER JORDAN:
Comment 1: Professor of Engineering at Univ of Alabama

More About WILLIAM JORDAN and CAROLYN CARTER:
Marriage: 30 Aug 1947, Laurel, Jones Co., MS

Children of WILLIAM JORDAN and CAROLYN CARTER are:
i. WILLIAM DITMER7 JORDAN, JR., b. 10 Aug 1948.
ii. LUCY CAROLYN JORDAN, b. 21 Mar 1950.
iii. REBECCA NEWTON JORDAN, b. 12 Aug 1956.


42. JAMES EARLY "JESSI"6 KIRK (LOIS JEAN "BOBIE"5 BAILEY, SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) died 21 Apr 1986 in Gordo, Pickens Co., AL. He married ILENE ELLEDGE.

Children of JAMES KIRK and ILENE ELLEDGE are:
i. HERMAN E.7 KIRK.
ii. JACKIE KIRK.


43. EUGENE6 KIRK (LOIS JEAN "BOBIE"5 BAILEY, SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 11 May 1911, and died 01 Dec 1934. He married BESSIE MAY ALLEN.

More About EUGENE KIRK:
Fact 1: at 23 years old, killed in an auto accident

Children of EUGENE KIRK and BESSIE ALLEN are:
i. REX BAILEY7 KIRK.
ii. BOBBY GENE KIRK.


44. MILDRED FRANK6 BAILEY (HURLEY MARTIN5, SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) She married WADIE GREEN CARVER, son of OSCAR CARVER and MARY LANCASTER.

Children of MILDRED BAILEY and WADIE CARVER are:
i. LARRY DON7 CARVER.
ii. ROBERT WADE "BOB" CARVER, JR..


45. ROBERT DOUGLAS6 BAILEY (HURLEY MARTIN5, SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) He married MELBA CROWLEY, daughter of WILLIAM CROWLEY and MINNIE CARVER.

Children of ROBERT BAILEY and MELBA CROWLEY are:
i. DOUGLAS WAYNE7 BAILEY.
ii. ROBERT DEREK BAILEY.


46. PEGGY6 KIRK (MATTIE GERTRUDE "BEP"5 BAILEY, SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) She married W. L. GUY.

Children of PEGGY KIRK and W. GUY are:
i. KIRK7 GUY.
ii. DAWN GUY.
iii. TINA GUY.


47. DUANE BRADSHAW6 MARBLE (MARY EDNA "RED"5 BAILEY, SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 10 Apr 1929 in Ashland, Ashland Co, Ohio, and died 29 Apr 1958 in Ashland, Ashland Co, Ohio. He married THERA MAE ROBERTS.

More About DUANE BRADSHAW MARBLE:
Fact 1: buried at Ashland Cemetery, Ashland, Ohio
Fact 2: fatal auto accident at age 29
Fact 3: 6/20/'47 -6/22/50; servied in U.S. Navy, communications messenger

Children of DUANE MARBLE and THERA ROBERTS are:
i. DECODY BRAD7 MARBLE, b. 16 Aug 1951, Murfreesboro, Rutherford Co., Tennessee.

More About DECODY BRAD MARBLE:
Fact 1: 15 Oct 1990, DESERT SHIELD STORM, U.S. Army, 50 Caliber Machine Gun NCO
Fact 2: 07 Oct 1986, served in U.S. Army, Supply Logistics Technician, 8 yrs
Fact 3: 18 Oct 1973, served in U.S. Air force/ 10 years
Fact 4: 18 Mar 1985, masters in Management Science, Troy State U., Ala
Fact 5: Mar 1981, Bachelor of Applied Science in Resource Management, Troy State
Fact 6: 19 Dec 1996, Associate in Science in Computer Programming & Analysis
Fact 7: Hobbies: Genealogy, photography and computer

ii. KENTON RANDALL "RANDY" MARBLE.
iii. DUANE BRETT ALAN MARBLE.


48. SYBIL ANNETTE6 MARBLE (MARY EDNA "RED"5 BAILEY, SARAH JANE/SALLY4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 06 Jun 1933 in Ashland, Ashland Co., Ohio, and died 29 Oct 1983 in Tampa, Florida. She married TRACY LEE PATTERSON 04 Dec 1951 in Murfreesboro, Rutherford Co., Tennessee.

More About SYBIL ANNETTE MARBLE:
Fact 3: buried at Rose Hill Cemetery, Manchester, TN

More About TRACY PATTERSON and SYBIL MARBLE:
Marriage: 04 Dec 1951, Murfreesboro, Rutherford Co., Tennessee

Children of SYBIL MARBLE and TRACY PATTERSON are:
i. TRACY LEE "PAT"7 PATTERSON III.
ii. TERRY LAWRENCE PATTERSON.
iii. ROBERT MARK PATTERSON.
iv. PERRY NICK PATTERSON.
v. DANA EDWIN PATTERSON.


49. MARY EDNA6 THOMSON (NANCY MARY "NANNIE MAE)5 KIRK, MARY ELLEN/MOLLIE4 CARVER, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1)

Child of MARY EDNA THOMSON is:
i. TOMMY7 HALL.


Generation No. 5

50. CLAYTON7 SNIDER (JOSEPH BRYANT6, MAGGIE EDNA5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 1926, and died 1998. He married ROSEMARY DESAULNIERS.

Child of CLAYTON SNIDER and ROSEMARY DESAULNIERS is:
i. KATHRYN8 SNIDER.


51. ROBERT7 SNIDER (EMMETT6, MAGGIE EDNA5 CARVER, JOSEPH H.4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 1933, and died 1969. He married CLEO CAPPS.

Children of ROBERT SNIDER and CLEO CAPPS are:
i. ROBERT8 SNIDER, JR., b. 1956.
ii. DONNA SNIDER, b. 1958.
iii. TODD SNIDER, b. 1961.


52. MARTHA CAROLYN7 NOLAND (CURTIS HENLEY6, REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 25 Oct 1934 in Electric Mills, Mississippi. She married JIMMY SIMPSON 21 Aug 1951 in Stillwater, Okla. He was born 03 Oct 1931 in Northport, Ala.

Notes for MARTHA CAROLYN NOLAND:
MARTHA CAROLYN NOLAND married Jimmy Simpson in Stillwater, Okla. Jimmy was in the air force at the time. When he got out of the service, they moved to Bessemer, Ala and Jimmy went to work for U.S. Steel, eventually as a supervisor. When he retired in 1984, they bought a cleaning establishment in Bessemer. Both worked there until selling the business in 1991. Martha "eloped" and ran off to marry Jimmy. She has a "bubbly" personality, filled with enthusiasm for life! She takes after her father in that she goes out of her way to "do" for others.

More About JIMMY SIMPSON and MARTHA NOLAND:
Marriage: 21 Aug 1951, Stillwater, Okla

Children of MARTHA NOLAND and JIMMY SIMPSON are:
63. i. JIMMY CURTIS8 SIMPSON, b. 21 May 1953, Hamilton AFB, Hamilton, Marin Co., Calif.
ii. SHERRI LYNN SIMPSON, b. 03 Mar 1956, Tuscaloosa, Ala; m. (1) PHILIP RAY PARKER, 06 Mar 1976, Bessemer, Alabama; m. (2) KENNETH DODSON, 26 Aug 1989.

Notes for SHERRI LYNN SIMPSON:
Married twice; first to Philip Ray Parker. Divorced and she married 2nd Kenneth Dodson. She was trained as a nurse but presently (1996) works at the post office in Bessemer, Ala.

More About PHILIP PARKER and SHERRI SIMPSON:
Marriage: 06 Mar 1976, Bessemer, Alabama

More About KENNETH DODSON and SHERRI SIMPSON:
Marriage: 26 Aug 1989

64. iii. CAROLYN RENEE SIMPSON, b. 07 Feb 1962, Birmingham, Ala.


53. KATHRYN ELIZABETH NOLAND7 (BETTY) (SAMUEL CAYCE6 NOLAND, REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 08 Jul 1929 in Saco, Ala. She married (1) HALL W. TIDWELL. She married (2) THOMAS CALVIN GODDARD. He died 17 Jan 1982 in Georgia.

Children of KATHRYN (BETTY) and HALL TIDWELL are:
i. KAY8 TIDWELL, b. 18 Nov 1949.
ii. PHILIP WILLIAM TIDWELL, b. 13 Mar 1951.


Children of KATHRYN (BETTY) and THOMAS GODDARD are:
65. iii. STEPHEN RANDALL8 GODDARD, b. 17 May 1954.
66. iv. CALVIN WAYNE GODDARD, b. 27 May 1955.
v. LARRY ALAN GODDARD, b. 16 Apr 1958.
vi. KATHRYN JANICE GODDARD, b. 29 Jul 1960.


54. MARY SUE7 NOLAND (SAMUEL CAYCE6, REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 27 May 1932 in Saco, Ala, and died 10 Apr 1994 in Ft. Walton, FL. She married (1) EDSEL GREENE. She married (2) EDWARD O. NICKELS (NICK).

Notes for MARY SUE NOLAND:
Sue Noland was married twice. Her first husband, Edsel Greene, was in the service and they were not married long. They had one child. She went to work for civil service during that marriage. After her divorce, whe married Nick Nickels, a career air force officer. They settled in Ft. Walton, Fla. She continued to work for civil service. Shortly after their marriage, Nick had to take an early retirement from the service due to poor health. From that time on, he was in and out of the hospital frequently with heart problems among other things. Sue and Nick had two daughters. The yougest dau gave them a difficult time almost from the time she was born. When she finally married, she had a couple of children die young. Her husband accused her of killing them and they divorced and he moved to Birmingham, AL, taking the two oldest daughters with him. The court refused Sonia, their mother, to see them. Then it was learned that the father was abusing the girls, Nick and Sue petitioned the court for the adoption of the girls. They were allowed to adopt the oldest girl and she moved to Florida with them. The father, f course, was furious and as a result they lost contact with the youngest grandchild. Then Sue's cancer of the breast returned (she thought she had been cured). In the meantime, the oldest daughter of Sue's married a hippie type, who persuaded Renee to embezzle from her employer. She was caught, of course, and when her parents refused to help her, she and her husband left that part of the country and Renee refused to speak to her mother and father again. Even when Sue was dying, Renee refused to speak to her or to mend fences. Sonia, mother of the grand-dau that they adopted, divorced her husband and returned to Ft. Walton. Despite a court order that she not see her daughter, she began to visit her Mom's house often. Sue was frantic and upset. Then when she died, Nick was left with the grand-daughter in his home, he himself was very ill and still in the hospital a good bit. Sonia moved into his home, despite his pleas that she leave. Finally, Nick went out into the garage while the grand-dau was at school and killed himself. End of a very sad story. I have no idea what happened to the grand-daughter and have been unable to learn anything about her.

More About MARY SUE NOLAND:
Fact 1: worked as secretary on SAC base
Fact 2: lived at Fort Walton, Florida
Fact 3: died of breast cancer
Fact 4: they adopted one of their grand-daus
Fact 5: husband had many health problems

Child of MARY NOLAND and EDSEL GREENE is:
67. i. PATRICIA SUSAN8 GREENE, b. 01 Dec 1951.


Children of MARY NOLAND and EDWARD (NICK) are:
ii. CATHERINE RENEE8 NICKELS, b. 28 Dec 1958.
68. iii. SONIA MARIE NICKELS, b. 07 Oct 1962.


55. JOHN THOMAS NOLAND7 (TOMMY) (SAMUEL CAYCE6 NOLAND, REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 13 May 1936 in Saco, Ala, and died 24 Jan 1989. He married BONNIE JOE JOYNER.

Notes for JOHN THOMAS NOLAND (TOMMY):
Tommy was a tall, good-looking man. He was somewhat of a disappointment to his father, Cayce, in that he was not a gung-ho outdoorsman. As soon as he got out of school, he went to work at the local bank and eventually worked his way up to Vice President. Toward the end of his life, he had a nervous break-down and had to leave the bank. He died of cancer. He had two sons.

More About JOHN THOMAS NOLAND (TOMMY):
Fact 1: grew up in Warner Robins, GA
Fact 2: was in the banking profession
Fact 3: died of cancer

Children of JOHN (TOMMY) and BONNIE JOYNER are:
i. GARY THOMAS8 NOLAND, b. 01 Nov 1961; m. JULIE VAALA, 08 Jun 1985.

More About GARY NOLAND and JULIE VAALA:
Marriage: 08 Jun 1985

ii. MARK ANTHONY NOLAND, b. 05 Feb 1963.


56. HAROLD WOODWARD7 NOLAND (SAMUEL CAYCE6, REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 27 Jul 1949 in Macon, GA. He married (1) SHARON CAWLEY 20 Sep 1968 in Warner Robins, GA. She was born 27 Dec 1950. He married (2) CHRIS CAMERON 31 Jul 1982 in Atlanta, GA. She was born 10 Nov 1952.

Notes for HAROLD WOODWARD NOLAND:
Worked first as CPA in Atlanta. After he divorced and remarried, they moved to South Carolina and he is now a real estate developer. Primarily in the islands' area and lived for a time on Kiawah island.

More About HAROLD WOODWARD NOLAND:
Fact 1: Worked first as CPA in Atlanta, GA
Fact 2: Moved to SC, and became a real estate developer

More About HAROLD NOLAND and SHARON CAWLEY:
Marriage: 20 Sep 1968, Warner Robins, GA

More About HAROLD NOLAND and CHRIS CAMERON:
Marriage: 31 Jul 1982, Atlanta, GA

Children of HAROLD NOLAND and SHARON CAWLEY are:
i. AMY SHEREE8 NOLAND, b. 22 Jan 1969; m. KIPLING LEE HAMMITT, 29 Jul 2000, central Baptist Church, Newnan, Georgia.

More About KIPLING HAMMITT and AMY NOLAND:
Marriage: 29 Jul 2000, central Baptist Church, Newnan, Georgia

ii. STEFANIE ELAINE NOLAND, b. 29 Nov 1973.


Child of HAROLD NOLAND and CHRIS CAMERON is:
iii. JOHN CAMERON8 NOLAND, b. 06 Dec 1988, Columbia, SC; Adopted child.


57. JUNE7 NOLAND (THOMAS EDGAR6, REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 14 Apr 1931. She married BILL CROWDER 02 Sep 1951 in Tuscaloosa, Ala.

Notes for JUNE NOLAND:
June Noland was a child from Lilua's first marriage. When Lilua and Dutch Noland married, June was raised as Dutch's child. She attended the University of Alabama and became a lab technician. She married Bill Crowder, another graduate of the University, and they moved almost immediately after graduation to Dallas, TX. Bill Crowder was an aeronautical engineer. They had two daughters born in Dallas. June was working at the hospital in Dallas at the time of the assassination of President Kennedy and was a witness to all the frantic activity at that time. Her lab was next to the emergency rooms where they were treating Johnson, Connelly and where they had Kennedy. Upon retirement, the Crowders moved to New Mexico and lived several years. Then they pulled up stakes, moved to the Seattle, Wash area and built a home there. June is a tiny woman and reminds me (in looks) of Jane Powell, the movie star.

More About JUNE NOLAND:
Fact 1: daughter of Clyde Smith
Fact 2: occupation: lab technician
Fact 3: lived in Dallas, then Santa Fe, NM
Fact 4: Moved to Seattle, Washington area
Fact 5: adopted when her mother married Dutch Noland

More About BILL CROWDER:
Fact 1: occupation: aeronautical engineer

More About BILL CROWDER and JUNE NOLAND:
Marriage: 02 Sep 1951, Tuscaloosa, Ala

Children of JUNE NOLAND and BILL CROWDER are:
i. LESLIE MONTELLE8 CROWDER, b. 15 Apr 1953.
ii. CHERYL ALLISON CROWDER, b. 06 Jul 1954.


58. SHIRLA JEAN7 RATHJEN (MELBA ELIZABETH6 NOLAND, REBECCA ELIZABETH5 CARVER, JAMES MONROE4, GREEN3, JOHN2, WILLIAM1) was born 27 Jun 1935 in Coleman, Texas. She married (1) WILLIAM ERIC PENNEY 16 Mar 1956 in Abilene, Texas, son of WILLIAM PENNEY and STELLA FENDER. He was born 13 May 1920 in Tennille, GA, and died 18 Dec 2004 in Jasper, Texas. She married (2) WM. PERRY HERRING MCFADDIN III 16 Feb 1968 in Beaumont, Jefferson Co., Texas, son of WILLIAM MCFADDIN and MARY NORTHCOTT. He was born 04 Oct 1931 in Houston, Texas, and died 26 Jul 1971 in Fulton Co., Arkansas. She married (3) JERRY THOMAS HOWARD 14 Jul 1973 in Thayer, Missouri, son of JOHN HOWARD and SYLVIA BRECHEISEN. He was born 28 Mar 1936 in Oak Ridge, Cape Girardeau Co, Missouri.

Notes for SHIRLA JEAN RATHJEN:
PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: 5'7" TALL, BLONDE HAIR WITH WIDOW'S PEAK, BLUE EYES, PALE COMPLEXION, LIGHT EYEBROWS AND EYELASHES; WORE SIZE 7 1/2 SHOE; HAD A DEEP DIMPLE IN CHIN AND DIMPLES IN CHEEKS; HAD LARGE BREASTS, BROAD SHOULDERS, NO "BUTT" AS A YOUNG LADY AND WHEN I MARRIED THE FIRST TIME, WEIGHED ABOUT 130 LBS. HAVE LARGE BONE STRUCTURE; EXCELLENT TEETH AND HAD ONLY TWO CAVITIES BY AGE 45 BUT DEVELOPED GINGEVITIS AND BEGAN LOSING TEETH IN MY FIFTIES AND SIXTIES; HAD BAD BACK MOST OF MY LIFE; I HAD HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, DIABETES (ADULT ONSET); HAD INNER EAR PROBLEM IN 1974 RESULTING IN HEARING LOSS. I WAS FORTUNATE IN MY TEENAGE YEARS IN THAT I HAD A CLEAR COMPLEXION AND NO PIMPLES OR ACNE. IN 1984, DEVELOPED ANGINA PROBLEM. IN 1976, DEVELOPED FIRST SIGNS OF DIABETES BUT DIDN'T START INSULIN UNTIL 1985.

ATTENDED SAM HOUSTON UNIVERSITY IN HUNTSVILLE, TEXAS. MAJORED IN CHEMISTRY WITH MINOR IN BIOLOGY. IN '50S, I WORKED AS RESEARCH CHEMIST AT M.D. ANDERSON CANCER HOSPITAL IN HOUSTON. THAT JOB ENDED WHEN WE MOVED TO GEORGIA. IN 1960'S, I WORKED AS LEGAL SECRETARY AND EXECUTIVE SECRETARY AT UNITED GAS COMPANY IN BEAUMONT, TEXAS. TRAINING THAT I HAD: BUSINESS MACHINE USE, SPEEDWRITING. WAS A MEMBER OF RAINBOW GIRLS IN FREEPORT, TX. WAS A MEMBER OF ORDER OF EASTERN STAR IN DEXTER, MO.
DEMOCRAT STATE COMMITTEE WOMAN IN MISSOURI. I AM PRESIDENT OF CREATIVE COMMUNITIES, INC, A NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZED TO MOVE WELFARE PEOPLE OFF WELFARE ROLLS, GET THEIR GED'S, BECOME EMPLOYED, PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS. WE COVER 8 COUNTIES. ALSO PRESIDENT OF 8TH DISTRICT, MFWDC, COMPRISING 26 COUNTIES.

TRAVELED WITH PARENTS AS A CHILD THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN PART OF U.S., AS MY FATHER LAID PIPELINES. WHEN I WAS THREE OR FOUR, LIVED WITH MY PARENTS IN BARANQUILLA, COLUMBIA WHILE MY FATHER LAID A PIPELINE ACROSS THE JUNGLE OF COLUMBIA. FOLLOWING THE START OF WWII, PARENTS SETTLED DOWN IN FREEPORT, TEXAS AND I ATTENDED SCHOOL THERE AND GRADUATED FROM BRAZOSPORT HIGH SCHOOL IN 1953. MY HOBBIES: READING (HISTORICAL NOVELS), GENEALOGY, PHOTOGRAPHY, C