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8. William Douglas WEBB36,37,38,39,40 was born in 1821 in Newport, Cumberland County, New Jersey. Or Hunterdon County. He appeared in the census on 8 October 1850 in District 1, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama.41 roll 16, p.149b
145/145
Wm B.Webb 39 Farmer NJ
Louisa H. 37 NC
Robert A. 6 Al
Margaret 4 Al
Lindsey 3 M Al
James A. 2/12 AL He died in January 1896 at the age of 75 in Hamilton, Marion County, Alabama. All censuses for after 1850 appear to be another person, W. Douglas Webb also with a wife named Louisa but with different children. William was buried in Lebanon Cemetery, Hamilton, Marion County, Alabama.

According to family tradition, William Douglas, dissatisfied with his home life and a "mean" mother, ran away at the age of 16, working on a boat that ran up and down the coast until he finally disembarked at Mobile, Alabama, around 1840 (about 15 years later) or shortly thereafter. He wrote a letter of "enquirment" back to the "old post office" and reached an "old maid sister". She wrote back to him asking if he remembered the cow getting into the hornet's nest. She told him his father "had raised up a whole new family." She also told him his brothers - he supposedly had around four brothers -- "went West." She had told him their mother thought he was dead." This letter was written by his son Melvin, after he moved to Marion County, Alabama, in 1878, so it is not known if he was illiterate or this was because of his blindness which was later cured. However in the 1870 census neither he nor his older children can read or write.

Albert Jr. describes William Douglas Webb as "a humble person, walked very, very straight. He had real straight black hair, as straight as a stick - they say my daddy had hair as straight as William's." Albert Jr. also says that William Douglas liked to ice skate, a sport almost unknown in Alabama. William Douglas taught his children how to ice skate, something he had probably learned while growing up in New Jersey.

When William was older, he went blind because of growths over his eyes. The blindness lasted for approximately one year. The family story is that the growths were "burned off." One night, while he was sitting by the fire, he could suddenly see his wife.

William Douglas Webb first appears on written Alabama records, 2 August 1842, when he married Louisa Boyd in Tuscaloosa County. The Justice of the Peace officiating was Alexander Kyle.

He next appears in the 1850 Census where his age is given as 29, making the year of his birth 1821, not 1819 as family tradition had it.


Recently come to light because of Ancestry.com's use of paternal DNA markers to determine our actual ancestors in a direct line from the earliest known, and from then a factual, documented line to the first known of that surname, is the conjecture, based upon these genes, that while the below Jacob Webb of New Jersey may not be the father, then another by the name of Thomas Webb, while also possibly not the father, might certainly be the Uncle of William Douglas Webb. [See Individual Notes and facts for Thomas Webb, b. 1755, Cedar Creek Hundred, Sussex County, Deleware.]


The 1860 Census of Hunterdon County, New Jersey
shows the first Webb to reside in the entire county to be William F.M. Webb, 28, a cigar-maker from Pennsylvania. This Webb is listed as living in Lambertville, many miles to the north of New Hampton, one place given as the possible birthplace of WD Webb. Listed are a wife Isabella, 28, daughters Annabelle, aged 2 born in Conn. and Stella Gene, 8 months born in Penn. He is shown as owning $100 worth of property. Of course by this time, WD Webb has been living in Tuscaloosa, Al for at least 18 years.

In the 1830, Cumberland County, Downe Township, New Jersey census a family of WEBBS and PEPPERs are shown living just a few dwellings apart. This census is the only census in the entire state of NJ in 1830 that shows these two families living near each other. Because of the extremes difficulty of travel in the early days of settlement, people tended to find their future mates among families who lived nearby.

The seat of Downe Township is Newport, the other city, often cited as the birthplace of William Douglas Webb. This town is situated on the Atlantic coast, at the mouth of the Delaware River, in the extreme southeastern end of New Jersey. The area was settled by English and German immigrants in the mid-1600s and had more Baptist churches than any other denomination, although there were some Presbyterian and Methodist churches around, plus some Quaker meeting houses. Newport and all the surrounding villages of Downe Township are situated in a flat, marshy area which remains sparsely populated even today. There was some farming, much shipping, fishing and oyster harvesting. Many of the farmers used the marshes to grow hay, which they then shipped down the coast.

It would have been very easy for WD Webb to sign onto a coastal ship from here. And, even at the age of 16, he probably would have already been familiar with working on boats. The county still houses the Maritime Museum, which displays tools and equipment related to the days when -- to quote an Internet description of the area --"Cumberland County was noted for the construction of the schooners which transported cargo to ports along the coast of America or were used to harvest oysters from Deleware Bay." (http://www.rootsweb.com/njcumber/cumbernj.html) . It is probably one of these ships which eventually carried WD Webb to Alabama.

On the 1830 census only the names of heads of household were given, and the inhabitants of the homes' ages were merely estimated within a 5-year range; no occupations or points of origin were given.
p,. 483 John WEBB, with following children: 1 male 0-5; 1 male 10-15; 1 male 20-30 (probably John, himself), 1 female 20-30. two boy as are living at home, but even though one of these could be WD, there aren't enough other boys to match the family tradition that "four brothers went west". Neither the census of 1840 or 1850 shows an increase in the size of John Webb's family.

p. 483 shows the next house inhabited by JACOB WEBB,with the following children: 3 males 0-5, 2 males 5-10; 1 male 30-40, 1 female 10-15; 1 female 20-30. This Jacob Webb would have been born 1790-1800. He does not appear on the 1840 Downe Township census, but Jacob Webb of the right age re-appears on the 1850 Downe Township Census.

p. 483, also shows the next house inhabited by WILLIAM WEBB, with 1 male 15-20, 1 male 70-80, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 60-70. This William would have been born 1750-1760 and is almost certainly WD Webb's grandfather. If this is so, then the Webb family has easily been in America since the 1700s and possibly even earlier. Few older men attempted the arduous Atlantic crossing, so William must have come as a young man or might have even been raised in the Colonies. There is further a Jacob Webb listed as having died in the area, 1781-1782, possibly William's father. The Newport area was a debarkation point for Atlantic crossing from both England, Germany and the Netherlands.

p. 480 just several households away from the Webbs, the following PEPPER families are shown. Maggie Mangum, daughter of Melvin Webb, a son of WD Webb, remembers hearing that WD's mother had "a bunch of sisters". 2 PEPPER women are listed as heads of households in this census and may have been widows.

MARY PEPPER, with 1 male 0-5, 1 male 15-20, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 40-50 (Mary) This Mary was possibly born 1780-1790, probably a widow who married a PEPPER between 1800-1820

AMOS PEPPER, with 1 male 70-80, 1 female 70-80. Probably grandparents or great grandparents of the aforementioned PEPPER. Amos and his wife being born 1750-1760. Amos is the most likely candidate for WD Webb's Pepper grandfather or great-grandfather.

p. 482 MARY PEPPER, with 2 females 20-30, 1 female 50-60. This Mary was born 1770-1780. Probably another PEPPER widow.

p. 478 ELIJAH PEPPER, 1 male 0-5, 1 male 5-10, 1 male 30-40, 1 female 0-5, 1 female 20-30. Elijah would have been born 1790-1800

On the 1840 Census the WEBBS and PEPPERs are still living in close proximity to each other
p. 77 JOHN WEBB, 1 male 0-5, 1 male 30-40, 2 females 5-10, 1 female 30-40.

WILLIAM WEBB, 1 male 80-90; 1 female 50-60, 1 female 70-80.

p. 73 AMOS PEPPER. Now widowed

p. 74 AMOS PEPPER, JR

p. 73 ELIJAH PEPPER, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 50-60

p. 71 ELIZABETH PEPPER

1850 Cumberland County, NJ Census

p. 109/218 JACOB WEBB, age 52, Downe Township, b. NJ, living alone, no occupation (b. 1798, probably same as the Jacob who was not tabulated on the 1840 Census). NOTE: There is a family tradition that one of the Webbs, possibly WD's father left NJ to work for a while in the Pennsylvania coal mines, then returned to NJ.

p. 198/397. JACOB WEBB, age 36, Bridgetown Township, b. NJ, Occupation "Nailer". Lives with ANN Webb, 34, a milliner, and Alexandria H. Webb, age 10, Charles Webb, age 8, and George Webb, age 1

p. 108/217 JOSEPH WEBB, age 22, Downe Township. b. NJ, Living in household with Joseph Marshall, 25, and Elizabeth Marshall, 22. Joseph Marshall is listed as a laborer.

p. 240/24, MARIA R. WEBB, age 29, Cohansey Township. Living in household of Daniel and Sarah Pierson. Daniel Pierson is listed as a blacksmith by trade with $1700 worth of real property. Maria R. Webb is listed as having $1500 of real property. All born in NJ: NOTE: a list of wills filed in Cumberland County, shows the following: ALEXANDER WEBB, Bridgeton Township, will filed May 7, 1849, proven July 30, 1849, lists Alexander's wife as Maria Webb, and his father-in-law as Daniel Pierson.

By the 1850 Census neither John or William Webb are shown in Cumberland County. William and his wife have almost certainly died in the interim.

Both a JOHN WEBB and a WILLIAM WEBB turn up in Ocean County, Dover Township in the 1850 Census for that area. William on p. 101, Since Ocean County is closer to New York City, these Webbs may be unrelated. Louisa H. BOYD and William Douglas WEBB were married on 4 August 1842 in Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama.42,43

Aug 2 is the date of application for the license, they were actually married on the 4th.

9. Louisa H. BOYD was born about 1823 in North Carol na. She appeared in the census on 7 October 1850 in District 1, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama.

Year: 1850 State: Alabama County: Tuscaloosa Page No: 290
Reel No: M432-16 Division: District No. 1 Sheet No: 147A
Enumerated on: October 7th, 1850 by: E. A. Powell
Reference: #16 Tuscaloosa
Transcribed by L. Smith Randolph for USGenWeb,
http://www.usgwcensus.org/. Copyright: 2006

32 | 145 145 | Louisa H. Webb | 27 F W | | NC | X | W100 |
33 | 145 145 | Robert A. Webb | 6 M W | | Ala | | W100 |
34 | 145 145 | Margarette Webb | 4 F W | | Ala | | W100 |
35 | 145 145 | Lindsey Webb | 3 M W | | Ala | | W100 |
36 | 145 145 | James D. Webb | 2/12 M W | | Ala | | W100 | She died after 1870 at the age of 47 in prob. Hamilton, Marion County, Alabama. There are no dates on her tombstone or the funeral home marker. Louisa was buried in Lebanon Cemetery, Hamilton, Marion County, Alabama.

Had red hair and was supposedly of Irish descent.

This might possibly be the Louisa M. Boyd daughter of John Montgomery Boyd and his wife Louisa Moore of the Sumpter County, Alabama Boyds, who go back to North Carolina.

or: From the will of Thomas Boyd, dtd 28 Feb 1839, Montgomery Co, Al; wife Margarett, sons Robert, George H., William L., and Hezekiah; and daus Martha and Louisa; wit--Baretell Hilliard, William Boyd, Sr and Samuel Humphrey.

The 1850 Census of Tuscaloosa County, Alabama shows Louisa H. , wife of Wm. B (sic) Webb as being born in NC. In the same District is Robert Boyd, age 69, also born in NC and a woman age 32, Liddia, born in NC, children aged 12, Robert Mc, Samuel M. age 8, David B, age 7. Later censuses might show if these were children by a second marriage to Liddia or if Liddia was his daughter-in-law and she was widowed with these children and was living with her father-in-law.

Robert Boyd is tentatively listed here as the father of Louisa, but other reports on him show no child named Louisa.

There is another possibility. A Louisa Boyd is shown in Generations Back p. 35, as being the daughter of Susannah Norton, daughter of William Norton and Jemima Pickerel, and her husband Thomas Boyd. Susannah died in Mississippi, and before that they had lived in Pendleton District, South Carolina.

Children were:

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i.

Robert Anderson "Bob" WEBB.

ii.

Rebecca Margarette "Becky" WEBB was born in 1846 in prob. Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama.44,45 She died in 1939 at the age of 93.46

Rebecca stayed in Tuscaloosa after WD and the rest of the family moved to Hamilton, Alabama.
According to Missouri relatives, her name was spelled Margaret and her nickname was Marianne. She was also called Maggie.

iii.

Lindsey William [or Enoch] WEBB was born on 15 September 1847 in Tuscaloosa County, Alabama.

near Cottondale He appeared in the census in 1930. He died on 6 January 1933 at the age of 85 in Marion County, Alabama. Lindsey was buried in Barnsville Cemetery, Marion County, Alabama.

His middle name in The Webb Family of Alabama gives his middle name as Enoch

iv.

James Abner "Abe" WEBB was born about August 1850 in Alabama. He appears on the Tax List for in Lee County, Mississippi in the year in 1877 He died in Pine Bluff, Jefferson County, Arkansas.47,48

Possibly the JA Webb on 1871 and 1877 tax list for Lee County, MS

Abe moved to Mississippi with Robert Anderson Webb, but eventually moved to Arkansas. He is buried in Pine Bluff, Arkansas.

His grandson was the sheriff of Tupelo, Mississippi and was called "Duck" Webb, quite possibly because of the webbed toes which show up on some Webbs, such as Betty Jo Webb's son, Jason. This may even be how the WEBB family got its name.

Both Ab's sons, Larry and Lim were buried in Saltillo, Mississippi.

v.

Mary Abigail? "Abb" "Abby" WEBB was born about 1851 in prob. Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama.

vi.

Sarah F. WEBB was born about 1853 in prob. Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama.

vii.

Albert Woodson WEBB Sr. was born about 1857 in prob. Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama.

viii.

Jacob Douglas "Jake" WEBB49 was born on 21 July 1861 in Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama. He died on 7 August 1949 at the age of 88 in Holly Spring (Hodges), Alabama. He was described as having red hair, blud eye, a full handlebar moustache, and very handsome. He dressed with great dign. Jacob died from a heart attack
His allover black dress may have been to honor his Quaker ancestry. In 1878, Jacob and his brothers, Melvin and Lindsey, left Tuscaloosa County and moved to Marion County, Alabama. Jake settled near Hodges, near present day Highway 19. They left their sister Julie in Tuscaloosa with her husband.

Jake was very bright and owned cotton gins, a sawmill - one on Bull Mountain in Franklin County - and before the railroad was built, he floated the logs down Bear Creek to the Tennessee River, then to the Mississippi, and finally the Gulf, where they were used for shipping. He also owned several farms.

While he was generally a peaceful man who settled many disputes of his neighbors, he could defend himself with vigor when attacked.

Successful merchant (cotton gins) in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and then moved to Hamilton, Alabama, where he died.

The death of his second wife, Viola, was taken hard by Jacob, and his health began to decline, even though he lived another 12 years. His life became doubly hard during the Depression because he loaned money to many farmers to help them out (and didn't charge any interest), but with so many farms failing at that time, he never did get his money back. He told family members that after the Depression he had a car trunk full of IOUs and nothing else left to his name. Jacob lost many of his farms and mills during the Depression and it is true he did have a long history of trying to help his neighbors.

In later years Jacob lived with his daughter Cora Alice Webb. His granddaughter, Virginia Rose, remembers him sitting around the fireplace telling stories of about the old days.

"Uncle Melvin, his brother, used to visit us, and he would sit on one side of the fireplace and Grandpa Jake would sit on the other side," Virginia said. "They were real Webbs, they'd sit there and tell the grandest stories. We didn't have indoor plumbing in those days, so when one would have to use the bathroom, they'd go outside to the outhouse. So Jake would go to the outhouse, and while he was gone, Uncle Melvin would lean over to me and say, 'Don't pay attention to that old fool! He's the biggest liar in seven states!' Then Uncle Melvin would have to go to the outhouse, and while he was gone, Grandpa Jake would lean over and say to me 'Don't pay attention to that old fool! He's the biggest liar in seven states!'

Jacob Douglas Webb finally died of a heart attack while sitting on his back porch. He is buried in Holly Springs Cemetery, in Hodges, Alabama. Nancy Hughey Webb is buried in Lebanon Cemetery.

ix.

Julia C. "Julie/Jebie" WEBB was born in November 1863 in prob. Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama.50,51

The Webb Family of Alabama, states her birth date as 1858 She died in 1904 at the age of 41 in prob. Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama.
Her husband is listed as a widower on his death certificate in 1909.

Julie stayed in Tuscaloosa after her father and brothers moved to Hamilton.

According to Grant Mayer's research, she married Greenberry Whatley after being hired to take care of his sick wife. After his first wife died, he married Julie and they had 9 children together. Greenberry fought for the Confederacy during the Civil War and was captured and later paroled. He died in 1906, a widower.

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Melvin Jasper WEBB was born on 15 October 1865 in Tuscaloosa County, Alabama. He died on 16 July 1957 at the age of 91 in Hamilton, Marion County, Alabama. He was buried in Lebanon Cemetery, Hamilton, Marion County, Alabama. Melvin was living in Marion County, Alabama. Supposedly the William Webb family moved there when Melvin was 14 years old which would have been 1879, but they are listed in the 1870 census for Monroe County, so this is wrong. He was described as having black, straight hair.

According to family stories Melvin and Jacob were very close, but when they were children they fought a lot. Melvin even bit a plug out of Jake's nose, and Jake bit Melvin's ear!

He was very bright and attended medical school in Mississippi. While doing so, he lived with his brother Robert Anderson and his wife, Mary Leah. According to family tradition, though, he had to leave because of trouble over a woman. Later stories said that he had gotten a girl pregnant, and that the girl was Mary Leah's sister Dora. He had a child by her. When he returned to Alabama, he worked as a veterinarian - and delivered black babies. Neal Webb says he also delivered his grandchild Versel. Jake went to get Melvin on a crippled mule when Versal was born.

He also may have contracted yellow fever while in New Orleans