Walter was Baptized St. Northam Parish 20 Mar 1756/7
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1830 Census. Wilson Co, TN
The closest guess I can come up regarding Eleanor's birth is about 1765-1770, from the 1830 census. Also son Walter Jr. was age 40-50, or born between 1780-1790.
I have seen Eleanor Randolph's father as Thomas C., Thomas E., and as Thomas Isham Randolph, son of Isham Randolph and Jane Rogers. The wife and mother always shown as Jane Cary. I believe this to be an error and Eleanor has been misplaced - a confusion with so many similar names. I even doubt that she was a Randolph - perhaps her mother had been a Randolph, but I see no real reason to suspect that either.
A Thomas C. Randolph in this time period simply does not seem to exist.
The last one - Thomas Isham Randolph - was born circa 1728 at Dungeness and he is the Thomas Randolph who married Jane Cary, daughter of Archibald Cary and Mary Randolph, about 1768. Nowhere in Randolph genealogies is this Thomas and Jane Cary shown with a daughter named Eleanor, although their children appear to be about the same age as Eleanor. They had Archibald Cary Randolph, b. 1769, who married Lucy Burwell; twins Isham & Thomas, b. 27 Mar 1771 - Isham married Nancy Coupland and Thomas married Mary Skipwith and was killed at the Battle of Tippecanoe at age 40; and a daughter Mary, b. 1 Feb 1773 who married Randolph Harrison.
Then there was a Thomas Eston Randolph, born 11 Apr 1767, still in England. That date alone would seem to indicate he was more of a contemporary of Eleanor Randolph. He was a grandson of Isham & Jane Rogers through their son William who married Elizabeth Little, 31 Jun 1761. Thomas Eston Randolph married Jane Cary Randolph, daughter of Thomas Mann Randolph Sr. and Anne "Nancy Cary, in 1797. This Jane Cary was nee Randolph and married a Randolph. Thomas Eston & Jane Cary Randolph had two known sons, Thomas Mann and James Henry, b. 3 Jul 1809.
But there is a deed:
Now the problem with Thomas Eston Randolph remains that the 1830 Census shows the wife of Walter Clopton to be age 60-70, or born between 1760 and 1770. And son Walter Jr. was also said to be 40-50 and she would have been at least 15-20 years older than her eldest child. Thomas Eston is shown to have been born in 1767 - he would have been approximately the same age as the wife of Walter Clopton and could not have been her father is this is true.
Could Eleanor have been a sister to Thomas Eston Randolph? Randolph databases list at least 11 siblings for Thomas Eston, but none were Eleanor, or Ellen. In fact this given name seems not to have used by the Randolphs at all.
Walter CLOPTON and Eleanor RANDOLPH had the following children:
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