Benjamin TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Harvey Arthur TILL
and Pamela SCORRINGE. Bianca
TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Harvey Arthur TILL
and Pamela SCORRINGE. Clarence
TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Arthur Mervyn TILL
and Eva Elsie UDY.He was married to Katheen Helen GIBBONS. Children were: Suzanna TILL , Jaynie TILL, Russell TILL, Louise TILL, Jennifer Rose TILL.
Harvey
Arthur TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Arthur Mervyn TILL
and Eva Elsie UDY.He was married to Pamela SCORRINGE. Children were: Bianca TILL , Benjamin TILL, Marisa TILL.
Hazel
Shirley TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Arthur Mervyn TILL
and Eva Elsie UDY. Jaynie
TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Clarence TILL
and Katheen Helen GIBBONS. Jennifer
Rose TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Clarence TILL
and Katheen Helen GIBBONS. Louise
TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Clarence TILL
and Katheen Helen GIBBONS. Marisa
TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Harvey Arthur TILL
and Pamela SCORRINGE. Russell
TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Clarence TILL
and Katheen Helen GIBBONS. Suzanna
TILL(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Clarence TILL
and Katheen Helen GIBBONS. Betty
TILLEY was born in 1765 in Drayton.(534)
Parents: John TILLEY and
Mary PERRY.She was married to William LAWRENCE on 8 Mar 1787 in Curry Rivel.(502) Witnesses at marriage: Samuel & Maria Lawrence
Francesca
TILLEY was born in 1789 in Swell, SOM ENG.
(534) Parents: George TILLEY and
Frances DAVIDGE. George
TILLEY was born in 1757 in Swell, SOM ENG.
(534) Parents: John TILLEY and
Mary PERRY.He was married to Frances DAVIDGE
on 4 Nov 1780 in Curry Rivel.(534)
From: Kevin O'Brien, 18 Moores Valley Road, Wainuiomata, Hutt, New Zealand.
(kob@ihug.co.nz)
Known locations of HODDER connections:
Uplyme, Lyme Regis, Taunton, Langport and Mulchelney all within
approximately 30 miles and close to the border of Devonshire.
SOMshire and Dorsetshire.
I have had a good look at the extracts from the SOM PRO and the pages from
Social History of Curry Rivel that Pat sent.
It has been clear that there were two Marys, the question is to whom did
they belong. The Mary that married John VAGG called one of her children
George Tilley VAGG and George TILLEY b. 1857 who married
Francis/Fanny/Frances DAVIDGE is almost certainly her father. I am sure
that, that Mary did not marry a HODDER.
Descendants of John TILLEY - 14 Aug 1998
This is what I believe the situation to be:
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FIRST GENERATION
1. John TILLEY was born in 1731 in Curry Rivel. He was a Tailor in 1756.
He was married to Mary PERRY on 7 Feb 1756. Mary PERRY was born in 1735 in Illminster.
She was also known as Perrey. John TILLEY and Mary PERRY had the following
children:
+2 i. George TILLEY.
3 ii. John TILLEY was born in 1760 in Swell, SOM ENG.
+4 iii. John TILLEY.
+5 iv. Betty TILLEY.
+6 v. Samuel TILLEY.
SECOND GENERATION
2. George TILLEY was born in 1757 in Swell, SOM ENG.
He was married to Francis DAVIDGE (daughter of Thomas DAVIDGE and Mary TUCKER)
on 4 Nov 1780 in Currey Rivel. Francis DAVIDGE was born in 1757 in Currey Rivel.
She was also known as Fanny or Frances. George TILLEY and Francis DAVIDGE had
the following children:
7 i. Harriet TILLEY was born in 1782 in Swell, SOM ENG.
8 ii. George TILLEY was born in 1785 in Swell, SOM ENG.
9 iii. Francis TILLEY was born in 1789 in Swell, SOM ENG.
+10 iv. Mary TILLEY.
11 v. Thomas TILLEY was born in 1793 in Swell, SOM ENG.
12 vi. James TILLEY was born in 1796 in Swell, SOM ENG.
13 vii. Hester TILLEY was born in 1808 in Swell, SOM ENG.
4. John TILLEY was born in 1761 in Swell, SOM ENG. He was also known as John
The Younger.
He was married to Sarah WILLEY on 17 Sep 1781 in Drayton, SOM ENG. John TILLEY
and Sarah WILLEY had the following children:
+14 i. Mary TILLEY.
5. Betty TILLEY was born in 1765 in Swell, SOM ENG.
She was married to William LAWRENCE on 8 Mar 1787 in Curry Rivel.
6. Samuel TILLEY was born in 1769 in Swell, SOM ENG.
He was married to Amy CULLEN in 1789. Amy CULLEN was born in 1765.
THIRD GENERATION
10. Mary TILLEY was born in 1790 in Swell, SOM ENG.
She was married to John VAGG on 21 Feb 1814 in Langport, SOM ENG. John VAGG
was born on 31 Oct 1790. Mary TILLEY and John VAGG had the following children:
15 i. Harriet VAGG.
+16 ii. Elizabeth VAGG.
+17 iii. John VAGG.
+18 iv. George Tilley VAGG.
+19 v. Harry VAGG.
14. Mary TILLEY was born in 1881 in Drayton, SOM ENG.
Mary TILLEY had the following children:
20 i. George TILLEY was born in 1803 in Muchelney.
She was married to William HODDER on 3 Jun 1811 in Muchelney. Mary TILLEY and
William HODDER had the following children:
21 i. James Tilley HODDER was born in 1809 in Muchelney.
22 ii. Joanna HODDER was born on 15 Apr 1812. She died on 25 Feb 1813.
23 iii. Joseph HODDER was born in 1815 in Langport, SOM ENG. He died on 14
May 1890 in Featherston NZL.
24 iv. William HODDER was born in 1817.
25 v. Walter HODDER was born on 19 Jun 1818 in Taunton SOM ENG. He died on
23 Feb 1901 in Featherston NZL.
26 vi. George HODDER was born in 1823 in Alverstoke ENG. He died 1 may 1861
Carcoar NSW AUS.
27 vii. Mary Ann HODDER was born in 1830. She died on 16 Sep 1923 in NZL.
FOURTH GENERATION
16. Elizabeth VAGG was born in 1815. She died in 1859 in Geelong VIC AUS.
She was buried in Geelong VIC AUS.
She was married to Jonas JEFFERS about 1838 in South Petherton SOM ENG. Jonas
JEFFERS was born in 1817.
17. John VAGG was born in 1817 in Illminster SOM ENG.
He was married to Harriet UNKNOWN.
18. George Tilley VAGG was born in 1819. He died in 1901 in Geelong VIC AUS.
He was buried in Eastern Cemetery Geelong.
He was married to Ann HARDING in 1840 in South Petherton SOM ENG. Ann HARDING
was born in 1840 in South Petherton SOM ENG.
19. Harry VAGG was born in 1822 in South Petherton SOM ENG.
He was married to Ann MORRIS in 1850 in Westport SOM ENG.
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OTHER CORRESPONDENCE ON WHICH SOME OF THE PRECEDING IS BASED
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From: Pat TILLEY, Red Oak, Texas USA (lti748@airmail.net)
I am researching the TILLEY surname from the area immediately east of
Taunton which includes Curry-Rivel, Fivehead, Isles Abbotts, Coombe St.
Nicholas, and Hambridge. I have come across those Tilley's you mention
in those parish records. I got the parish and census records of
1841-51-61 from the FHC of the LDS.
I have yet to connect George Tilley and Mary Tilley to my line. I
believe that George is probably a son or possibly a brother of my
Thomas Tilley and Elizabeth ??? . There are records of Tilleys in
Curry-Rivel and Isles Abbotts as early as the 1500's.
My interests in the Tilley name include:-
Thomas Tilley- Elizabeth ? 5G-grandparents
Thomas Tilley- Susannah Louch 4G-grandparents
William Tilley- Frances Taylor 3G-great-grandparents
James Tilley- Eliza HUMPHRY GG-grandparents
I found a marriage of a George Tilley and Fanny Davidge in
Curry-Rivel, 4 Nov. 1780.
In Langport District, Burials:
Jan 1782 Harriet, daughter of George and Fanny Tilley
Nov 5 1785 George son of George and Fanny Tilley
Sept 1789 Thomas son of George and Fanny Tilley
1790 John, son of George and Fanny Tilley
1793 Francis , son of George and Frances Tilley
11 July 1808 Hester b. 5 July 1799, daughter of George and Frances Tilley
I don't know if Fanny-Frances-Mary Davidge are all the same person or not.
Langport or the district of Langport, Children of George Tilley
and Frances baptised :
1782 Harriet
1885 George
1789 Francis
1790 Henry
1793 Thomas
1796 James
1808 Hester
At Muchelney, Children of Mary Tilley baptised:
1803 George
1809 James
At Drayton, Children of John Tilley and Mary baptised:
1752 George
1760 John
1761 John
1765 Betty
1769 Samuel
I have other papers to send to do with Tilley including extracts of
Marriages, Burials and Baptisms in the area east of Taunton.
Ancestors of WILLIAM EDWIN TILLEY
FIRST GENERATION
1. WILLIAM EDWIN TILLEY was born on 28 Apr 1851 in DOD LN. OLDLAND,
GLOUCESTER .. He was buried in 1926 in ANTRIM CO. MICHIGAN FAIRVEIW
CEMETERY. He died on 29 Dec 1926 in DETROIT, WAYNE CO.MICHIGAN. He
was christened in COOMBE ST. NICHOLAS, SOM, . He was a MARINE ENGINEER.
He was educated COULD READ AND WRITE.
SECOND GENERATION
2. JAMES TILLEY was born in Feb 1817 in CURRY RIVELL, SOM, . He was
christened on 20 Feb 1817 in CURRY-RIVELL, SOM, . He died in 1869 in EAST
GRINSTEAD, SUSSEX, . He was a FARMER IN 1851 AND 1861. He was CHURCH
OF . He was married to ELIZA HUMPHREY on 30 Dec 1841 in PARISH CHURCH,
ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM, .
3. ELIZA HUMPHREY was born about 1812 in ISLES ABBOTS, SOM, . She died
after 1881. JAMES TILLEY and ELIZA HUMPHREY had the following children:
i. LUCY FRANCES TILLEY was born on 3 Dec 1842 in
CAPEL, KENT
.
ii. EMMA TILLEY was born on 2 Jan 1847 in ISLES ABBOTS,
SOM, .
iii. ANNA TILLEY was born on 14 Jun 1849 in CALDICOT,
MONMOUTHSHIRE, .
1 iv. WILLIAM EDWIN TILLEY.
v. JAMES TILLEY was born on 12 Apr 1853 in BITTON,
GLOUSTERSHIRE.
vi. ELIZABETH TILLEY was born on 2 Oct 1855 in
CURRY-RIVEL, SOM.
vii. ELIZA SUSAN TILLEY was born on 1 Jun in
COOME ST. NICHOLAS, SOM.
THIRD GENERATION
4. WILLIAM TILLEY was born about Jan 1796 in SOM, . He was christened on
19 Jan 1796 in SOM, . He died on 25 Dec 1841 in ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM .
He was a FARMER-AUCTIONEER. He was married to FRANCES TAYLOR on 24 Aug
1816 in PARISH CHURCH, CURRY-RIVEL, SOM, .
5. FRANCES TAYLOR was born about 1801 in SOM, . She died on 6 Jul 1872
in FIVEHEAD, SOM, . She was a KEEPING HOUSE. WILLIAM TILLEY and
FRANCES TAYLOR had the following children:
2 i. JAMES TILLEY.
ii. SUSAN TILLEY was born on 10 Dec 1818 in SOM, .
She was christened in 1823 in CURRY-RIVEL SOM.
She died 10 Oct 1829 PROBABLY SOM
iii. ELIZABETH TILLEY was born on 23 Aug 1819 in SOM
iv. WILLIAM TILLEY was born on 11 Nov 1821 in SOM
v. THOMAS TILLEY was born on 26 Sep 1822 in SOM
He was buried on 6 Mar 1823 PROB. SOM
vi. THOMAS TILLEY was born on 1 Apr 1826 in SOM
vii. SOPHIA TILLEY was born on 14 Aug 1828 in SOM,
viii. ANN TILLEY was born 17 Feb 1835, ISLES ABBOTTS,SOM
6. HENRY HUMPHREY was born about 1776 in SOM, . He was a FARMER. He was
married to HANNAH DUKE on 21 Apr 1800 in ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM.
7. HANNAH DUKE. HENRY HUMPHREY and HANNAH DUKE had the following
children:
i. JAMES HUMPHREY was born in 1801 in SOM, .
ii. SAMUAL HUMPHREY was born in 1805 in SOM, .
iii. EDWARD HUMPHREY was born in 1807.
iv. ANN HUMPHREY was born in 1809.
v. ESTHER HUMPHREY was born in 1811 in SOM, .
3 vi. ELIZA HUMPHREY.
vii. BEN HUMPHREY was born in 1814 in SOM, .
viii. JOSEPH HUMPHREY was born in 1816 in SOM, .
ix. ANNA HUMPHREY was born in 1819 in SOM, .
x. LUCY HUMPHREY was born in 1822 in SOM, .
FOURTH GENERATION
8. THOMAS TILLEY was born about 1750 in ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM . He was
christened on 5 Nov 1750 in ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM, . He died on 2 Dec 1819 in
ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM, . He was married to SUSANNAH LOUCH on 3 Sep 1776 in
ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM, .
9. SUSANNAH LOUCH was born about 1757 in HAMBRIDGE, SOM . She died on 29
Jan 1825 in ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM, . She was buried on 29 Jan 1825 in ISLES
ABBOTTS, SOM, . THOMAS TILLEY and SUSANNAH LOUCH had the following
children:
i. THOMAS TILLEY was christened on 3 Sep 1778 in
ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM
ii. CHARLES TILLEY was born in Mar 1779 in
CURRY-RIVEL, SOM
He was christened on 15 Feb 1780 in SOM, .
He was an AGRICULTURAL LABORER.
4 iii. WILLIAM TILLEY.
iv. ISSAC TILLEY was born about 1803 in
CURRY-RIVEL SOM He was an AGRICULTURAL LABORER.
v. ELIZABETH TILLEY.
FIFTH GENERATION
16. THOMAS TILLEY.
17. ELIZABETH UNKNOWN. THOMAS TILLEY and ELIZABETH UNKNOWN
had the following children:
8 i. THOMAS TILLEY.
18. JOSEPH LOUCH died on 14 Nov 1845 in HAMBRIDGE, SOM .
19. MARY UNKNOWN was born about 1744 in HAMBRIDGE, SOM, . She died on
11 Aug 1838 in HAMBRIDGE, SOM, . JOSEPH LOUCH and MARY UNKNOWN had
the following children:
9 i. SUSANNAH LOUCH.
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From Bill Hite
(W. F. Hite, 8 Medway Cr, BORONIA 3155, Victoria AUS w.hite@bom.gov.au)
I have a copy of George Tilly's Christning record and on the same page
is Fanny Davage. I also have a copy the Marriage Register book showing
marriage between George Tilley and Fanny Davidge and a part copy of
"A Social History of Curry Rivel in the Nineteenth Century" which has
information on the Tilley Family.
I use a program called Family Scrap Book, which handles GEDCOM files
and normally use Wordperfect for text files (however I can read Word
files also). I have been corresponding with Patrick Tilley.
Most of my information has come from other peoples information and
this is a problem as there appears to be some errors somewhere.
Most of the information came from a C.M VAGG who was a descendant
from George Tilly VAGG a son of John Vagg and Mary TILLEY who also came
to Australia. I was aware that there was also a clash of information
as I had a copy of a Descendancy Chart from the "Ancesteral File" which
said that Mary TILLEY m William HODDER and tried to follow it up with
the submitter who lives in South Australia. I spoke to him on the
telephone and although he was sure of his information down from James
Samual TILLEY, he said that the information above was suspect/incorrect.
REGISTER CHART 11-Jul-1998 (from Bill Hite)
Generation 1
1. John Tilly - born 1731 at Curry-Rivel, SOM,
Married Mary Perrey 1756 at Curry-Rivel
Mary Perrey born 1735 at Ilminster, Eng
Children:
2. i. George Tilly - born 1757 at Curry-Rivel
Married Francis Davidge (Fanny) 1780 at Parish Church,
Curry-Rivel
ii. John Tilly - born before 1760
..............................
1. Thomas Davidge - born 1731 at Langport, SOM
Married Mary Tucker 1738 at Langport
. Mary Tucker born 1735 at Langport
Children:
2. i. Francis Davidge (Fanny) - born 1757 at Curry-Rivel, SOM,
Married George Tilly 1780 at Parish Church, Curry-Rivel
.........................
Generation 2
2. George Tilly - born 1757 at Curry-Rivel
Married Francis Davidge (Fanny) 1780 at Parish Church,
Curry-Rivel
Children:
i. Harriet Tilly - born 1782
ii. George Tilly - born 1785
iii. Francesca Tilly - born 1789
3. iv. Mary Tilly - born 1790 -
Married John Vagg 1814 at Langport, SOM,
v. Thomas David Tilly - born 1793
vi. James Samual Tilly - born 1796
vii. Francesa Tilly - born 1798
viii. Hester Tilly - born 1799
.........................
Generation 3
3. Mary Tilly - born 1790 -
Married John Vagg (b. 31 Oct 1790) on 21 Feb1814 at
Langport, SOM. (Daughter Elizabeth VAGG (1815)=Jonas JEFFERS
(1817) m 1838 They had one or two children in then arrived
in Australia 10 Jan 1843 on the Royal Sovereign.)
Children:
i. Harriet Vagg
ii. Elizabeth Vagg - born 1815 - married Jonas Jeffers about
1838 at South Petherton, SOM- died 1859 at Geelong,
Victoria, Australia - buried 1859 at Geelong
iii. John Vagg - born 1817 at Ilminster, - married Harriet ???
iv. George Tilly Vagg - born 1819 - married Ann Harding 1840
at South Petherton, SOM, - died 1901 at Geelong
buried at Eastern Cemetery, Geelong, Victoria, Australia
v. Harry Vagg - born 1822 at South Petherton, SOM,
Married Ann Morris 1850 at Westport, SOM,
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From: Rob Pearson, Shaftesbury, Dorset, England.
( rob.pearson@zetnet.co.uk)
Davidge is not an uncommon name in SOM. My knowledge pre the arrival of
John DAVIDGE in Bristol c. 1820 is sketchy. His father was William DAVIDGE,
servant, who was in Frome in 1780 when John was born. William is not in
the Frome Parish Registers but there were a couple of DAVIDGE families
in the area at that time. (Frome seems to be about 30m. away from
Langport or a days horse ride.)
Ancestors of Sarah Elizabeth DAVIDGE
FIRST GENERATION
1. Sarah Elizabeth DAVIDGE was born on 21 Nov 1858 in 7 Whitehouse St,
Bedminster. She resided 1861 census at 7 Wood St, Lambeth, with family.
She resided 1871 census at 13 Ward St, Lambeth, with family, 12, Scholar.
She resided 1878 July 25 at marriage living at 13 Linstead St, where.
SECOND GENERATION
2. John DAVIDGE was born on 10 Mar 1838 in James' Court, Bedminster.
He died after 1878. He was a Shoemaker, Policeman & Baptist Missionary.
He was married to Martha DOUGLAS on 30 Nov 1856 in Bristol Registry Office.
3. Martha DOUGLAS was born about 1838. She died after 1881. She resided
1851 census at Sion Row with mother & step-father, 13,. John DAVIDGE and
Martha DOUGLAS had the following children:
1 i. Sarah Elizabeth DAVIDGE.
ii. Edwin John DAVIDGE was born on 9 Mar 1861 in
7 Wood St, Lambeth. He was a Royal Marine.
He resided 1861 census at 7 Wood St with family,
age 1 month. He resided 1871 census at 13 Ward St,
Lambeth, with family, 10, Scholar. He resided
1881 census at 13 Linstead St, Kilburn, 20, Royal
Marine on leave.
iii. Thomas DAVIDGE was born about 1863 in Lambeth.
He resided 1871 census at 13 Ward St, Lambeth,
with family, 8, Scholar. He resided 1881 census
at 13 Linstead St, Kilburn, 18, Grocer's Errand Boy.
iv. Elija D DAVIDGE was born about 1865 in Lambeth.
He was an Engine Fitter. He resided 1871 census
at 13 Ward St, Lambeth, with Family, 6, Scholar.
He resided 1881 census at 13 Linstead St, Kilburn,
16, Engine Fitter at.
v. Emily SMITH was born about 1866.
vi. Lilian Emily DAVIDGE was born about 1867 in
Lambeth. She resided 1871 census at 13 Ward St,
Lambeth, with family, 4, Scholar. She resided 1881
census at 13 Linstead St, Kilburn, 14, Scholar.
vii. Ebenezer DAVIDGE was born on 2 Jan 1869 in 13 Ward
St, Lambeth. He resided 1871 census at 13 Ward
St, Lambeth, with family, 2, Scholar. He resided
1881 census at 13 Linstead St, Kilburn, 12,
Scholar.
THIRD GENERATION
4. John DAVIDGE was born in 1808 in Frome, SOM. He died after 1861.
He was a General Labourer, Porter. He was married to Mary Ann ALLEN on
15 Apr 1833 in St Mary-le-Port, Bristol.
5. Mary Ann ALLEN resided 1833 Apr 15 St Mary le Port, Bristol, 'of this parish'.
She
resided 1841 census at 12 Bedminster Terrace, born in county (SOM). John DAVIDGE
and Mary Ann ALLEN had the following children:
2 i. John DAVIDGE.
ii. William David DAVIDGE was born on 3 Jan 1834 in
Bristol. He was a Sawyer. He resided 1841 census
at 12 Bedminster Terrace with family, 7, born in
county. He resided 1851 census at Sion Row,
Bedminster with family, 17,
iii. James DAVIDGE was born about 1836 in Bristol.
He resided 1841 census at 12 Bedminster Terrace
with family, 5, born in.
iv. Mary Ann DAVIDGE was born about 1840 in Bedminster.
She resided 1841 census at 12 Bedminster Terrace
with family, 1, born in.
v. Edwin DAVIDGE was born about 1843 in Bedminster.
He died between 1851 and 1853 in Bedminster.
He resided 1851 census at Sion Row,
Bedminster, labourer, 8, b.Bedminster.
vi. Elija DAVIDGE was born about 1844 in Bedminster.
He resided 1851 census at Sion Row, Bedminster,
labourer, 7, b.Bedminster.
FOURTH GENERATION
8. William DAVIDGE was a Servant.
9. Harriet. William DAVIDGE and Harriet had the following children:
4 i. John DAVIDGE.
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From: Dr John Betts <dr@browser.demon.co.uk>
To: kob <kob@paradise.net.nz>
Subject: Re: VAGG/TILLEY/DAVIDGE & ORS
Date: Friday, 30 October 1998 18:56
From: "kob" <kob@paradise.net.nz>
To: <Dr@browser.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: VAGG/TILLEY/DAVIDGE & ORS
Date sent: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:52:40 +1300
>
> > About three years, I was in contact with Maree Ring, who was a
> > subscriber to a Hobart, Tasmania BBS, about our mutual interest in
the
> > VAGG family..
>
Thanks Kevin for sending on your information. Henry Vagg was my
ggg grandfather, a carpenter, who apparently came up from
Somersset to make his way in London, where he married and had
six kids.
One of them, Mary Ann married my gg grandfather, Richard
Hurst and may have been instrumental in his becoming a
successful timber merchant when the silk trade collapsed in
London.
Incidentally you of course know of Mervyn Vagg, author of the
Vagg Odyssey. I just heard that he intended before his death
passing on his records to a cousin who was one of the Tilley
Vaggs.
I enclose a register printout of my Vaggs in case they are ever
of use to you.
Also I append a list of people working on the Vaggs
Mrs A. Ranson,
Rde 311,
Paperback,
Tasmania 7275,
Australia
Mrs J. Vagg – Elderly, passed most of her information
to Mervyn Vagg. Probably deceased.
50 Grange Park Road,
Leyton,
London,
E10 5ES
Mr R. Harrison,
43 Delta Close,
Royton,
Oldham,
Lancs,
OL2 5DR
Mr Stan Thompson, - see above
162 Halton Road,
Sutton Coldfield,
West Midlands,
B73 6NZ
Murray Vagg, - Probably has the most information
6 Grove Road,
Rosanna,
Victoria,
Australia, 3084
Regards,
John Betts
Dr John Betts <dr@browser.demon.co.uk>
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Hi,
I've been given your email address by Patrick Tilley. He said that you
had been researching the Vagg family of Somerset. I am related to the South
Petherton side of this family.My great*3 grandmother was Annice Vagg who was
born in South Petherton in 1821. I can trace her ancestry back to Richard
Vagg of South Petherton through the line as shown in the attached text file.
I would be very grateful for any information you could give me to do with
this family. I am also trying to trace a copy of a book called "The Vagg
Odyssey: A thousand years of the Vaggs" I know that it was published in
Australia by C. Mervyn Vagg but have as yet been unable to find a copy.
Any assistance on either of these matters would be much appreciated.
Kind Regards
Matthew Brookbank
---------------
Text version of file appended:
-----------------
Ancestors of Annice Vagg
Generation No. 1
1. Annice Vagg, born 5 November 1820 in South Petherton, Somerset; died Aft.
1881 in Hotwells, Bristol. She was the daughter of 2. John Vagg and 3. Mary
Wines. She married (1) Isidore Haidwieke Millett. He was the son of John Millett
and Unknown. She married (2) Henry Nicholls.
Notes for Annice Vagg:
Lived in Hotwells untill she died.
Used her jewelery to buy 354 Hotwells road, Bristol.
More About Annice Vagg:
Occupation: Shopkeeper
Notes for Isidore Haidwieke Millett:
Died six weeks after his son was born. Aged 26.
Died from stone dust.
He was forbidden from marrying his wife so they had to run away.
Lived in Hotwells, Bristol at the time of marriage.
More About Isidore Haidwieke Millett:
Burial: Abt. 1862, Clifton Parish Church
Occupation: Stone Mason
Notes for Henry Nicholls:
Although they were married they never lived together as he only married Vagg
for her jewelery and she found out and left him.
More About Henry Nicholls:
Occupation: General Mason
Child of Annice Vagg and Isidore Millett is:
i. Isidore John Millett, born Abt. 1860 in Bristol1; married Florence Harriet
Mitchell 4 October 1897 in Portishead, Somerset1.
Notes for Isidore John Millett:
He was a valuations officer for Bristol Council. He owned two houses a
Fishmongers in Love street and 354 Hotwells rd. He rented one of the houses
out. He was a free mason. Shown in the 1894 Kellys directory as being a
fishmonger at 1 Charlton Rd, Hotwells, Bristol.
In 1881 was shown as living in Clifton, Bristol and was working as a Railway
Clerk.
More About Isidore John Millett:
Occupation: Valuations Officer
Notes for Florence Harriet Mitchell:
Lived in Love Street and then moved to
354 Hotwells rd, Bristol. Used to be called 1&2 Charlton place.
Near St Vincents parade and Freelem Place
Later moved to Basingstoke avenue and then to North View Redland.
Generation No. 2
2. John Vagg, born 31 October 1790 in South Petherton, Somerset. He was the
son of 4. John Vagg and 5. Mary Elliot. He married 3. Mary Wines 11 January
1818 in South Petherton, Somerset.
3. Mary Wines, born 12 August 1792 in South Petherton, Somerset. She was the
daughter of 6. Charles 'Carolus' Wines and 7. Susanna Masters.
Children of John Vagg and Mary Wines are:
1 i. Annice Vagg, born 5 November 1820 in South Petherton, Somerset; died Aft.
1881 in Hotwells, Bristol; married (1) Isidore Haidwieke Millett; married (2)
Henry Nicholls.
ii. George Vagg, born 16 July 1820 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iii. William Vagg, born 6 October 1818 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iv. Betsy Vagg, born 25 August 1822 in South Petherton, Somerset.
v. Harry Vagg, born 7 July 1822 in South Petherton, Somerset.
Generation No. 3
4. John Vagg, born 11 November 1759 in South Petherton, Somerset. He was the
son of 8. Edward Vagg and 9. Elizabeth Marks. He married 5. Mary Elliot 11 February
1783 in South Petherton, Somerset.
5. Mary Elliot, born in South Petherton, Somerset.
Children of John Vagg and Mary Elliot are:
2 i. John Vagg, born 31 October 1790 in South Petherton, Somerset; married Mary
Wines 11 January 1818 in South Petherton, Somerset.
ii. Jenny Vagg, born 22 September 1784 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iii. Sarah Vagg, born 25 January 1788 in South Petherton, Somerset.
6. Charles 'Carolus' Wines, born 1753; died 10 January 1832 in South Petherton,
Somerset. He was the son of 12. Robert Wines and 13. Alicia Salisbury. He married
7. Susanna Masters 14 November 1785.
7. Susanna Masters, born 1763; died 7 June 1815 in South Petherton, Somerset.
Children of Charles Wines and Susanna Masters are:
3 i. Mary Wines, born 12 August 1792 in South Petherton, Somerset; married John
Vagg 11 January 1818 in South Petherton, Somerset.
ii. Hannah Wines, born 6 June 1799 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iii. Martha Wines, born 12 August 1792 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iv. Simeon Wines, born 1792 in South Petherton, Somerset.
v. Lois Wines, born 14 March 1799 in South Petherton, Somerset.
vi. Gaius Wines, born 1799 in south Petherton, Somerset.
Generation No. 4
8. Edward Vagg, born 30 October 1714 in South Petherton, Somerset. He was
the son of 16. Edward Vagg and 17. Mary Glover. He married 9. Elizabeth Marks
1736 in South Petherton, Somerset.
9. Elizabeth Marks.
Children of Edward Vagg and Elizabeth Marks are:
i. Samuel Vagg, born 14 September 1743 in South Petherton, Somerset; married
Francis.
ii. Betty Vagg, born 30 January 1744/45 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iii. Mary Vagg, born 1749 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iv. Anne Vagg, born 5 January 1749/50 in South Petherton, Somerset.
v. Richard Vagg, born 1752 in South Petherton, Somerset.
vi. Edward Vagg, born 23 August 1752 in South Petherton, Somerset; married
Elizabeth.
vii. Samuel Vagg, born 8 February 1754 in South Petherton, Somerset; married
Amy.
4 viii. John Vagg, born 11 November 1759 in South Petherton, Somerset; married
Mary Elliot 11 February 1783 in South Petherton, Somerset.
12. Robert Wines, born 1727 in South Petherton, Somerset. He married 13. Alicia
Salisbury 14 July 1752 in South Petherton, Children were:
Harriet TILLEY, George TILLEY,
Francesca TILLEY, Mary TILLEY,
Thomas Davidge TILLEY, James TILLEY,
Hester TILLEY, Mary TILLEY.
George
TILLEY was born in 1785 in Swell, SOM ENG.
(534) Parents: George TILLEY and
Frances DAVIDGE. Harriet
TILLEY was born in 1782 in Swell, SOM ENG.
(534) Parents: George TILLEY and
Frances DAVIDGE. Hester
TILLEY was born in 1808 in Swell, SOM ENG.
(534) Parents: George TILLEY and
Frances DAVIDGE. James
TILLEY was born in 1796 in Swell, SOM ENG.
(534) Parents: George TILLEY and
Frances DAVIDGE. John
TILLEY The Younger(107) was born
in 1760/61 in Drayton.(534) Parents:
John TILLEY and Mary PERRY
.He was married to Sarah WILLEY on 17 Sep 1781 in Swell, SOM ENG.(2195) Witnesses to marriage: Elizabeth Hucker & R Weaver Children were: Mary TILLEY.
John
TILLEY was born in 1731 in Curry Rivel. He was a tailor in 1756.He was married to Mary PERRY on 7 Feb 1756 in Curry Rivel. (2196) Children were: George TILLEY, John TILLEY The Younger, John TILLEY, Betty TILLEY, Samuel TILLEY.
John
TILLEY Parents: John TILLEY and
Mary PERRY. Mary
TILLEY(91) was born in 1781 in Drayton.
(534) From: Kevin O'Brien, 18 Moores Valley
Road, Wainuiomata, Hutt, New Zealand.
(kob@ihug.co.nz)
Known locations of HODDER connections:
Uplyme, Lyme Regis, Taunton, Langport and Mulchelney all within
approximately 30 miles and close to the border of Devonshire.
SOMshire and Dorsetshire.
William HODDER = Ann LOCK m. 22 Jan 1760
|
Eli HODDER (d. 1834) = Joanna SAWTELL m. 9 Feb 1789
|
William HODDER (b. 7 May 1789)= Mary TILLEY m. 3 Jun 1811 Mulchelney,
| SOM.
Walter HODDER (b. 19 Jun 1818, Taunton, d. 23 Feb 1901, Featherston,
New Zealand) = Emma Matilda GOODING m. 26 Jul 1840,
Bath. (Emma was daughter of George GOODING and Unknown
BROOKMAN d. 29 Nov 1902, Dannevirke, New Zealand.)
Family left Gravesend on 31 Dec 1841 on board 'London'
for New Zealand arriving on 1 May 1842 at Wellington.)
UPDATE
I have had a good look at the extracts from the SOM PRO and the pages from
Social History of Curry Rivel that Pat sent.
It has been clear that there were two Marys, the question is to whom did
they belong. The Mary that married John VAGG called one of her children
George Tilley VAGG and George TILLEY b. 1857 who married
Francis/Fanny/Frances DAVIDGE is almost certainly her father. I am sure
that, that Mary did not marry a HODDER.
Descendants of John TILLEY - 14 Aug 1998
This is what I believe the situation to be:
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FIRST GENERATION
1. John TILLEY was born in 1731 in Curry Rivel. He was a Tailor in 1756.
He was married to Mary PERRY on 7 Feb 1756. Mary PERRY was born in 1735 in Illminster. She was also known as Perrey. John TILLEY and Mary PERRY had the following children:
+2 i. George TILLEY.
3 ii. John TILLEY was born in 1760 in Swell, SOM ENG.
+4 iii. John TILLEY.
+5 iv. Betty TILLEY.
+6 v. Samuel TILLEY.
SECOND GENERATION
2. George TILLEY was born in 1757 in Swell, SOM ENG.
He was married to Francis DAVIDGE (daughter of Thomas DAVIDGE and Mary TUCKER) on 4 Nov 1780 in Currey Rivel. Francis DAVIDGE was born in 1757 in Currey Rivel. She was also known as Fanny or Frances. George TILLEY and Francis DAVIDGE had the following children:
7 i. Harriet TILLEY was born in 1782 in Swell, SOM ENG.
8 ii. George TILLEY was born in 1785 in Swell, SOM ENG.
9 iii. Francis TILLEY was born in 1789 in Swell, SOM ENG.
+10 iv. Mary TILLEY.
11 v. Thomas TILLEY was born in 1793 in Swell, SOM ENG.
12 vi. James TILLEY was born in 1796 in Swell, SOM ENG.
13 vii. Hester TILLEY was born in 1808 in Swell, SOM ENG.
4. John TILLEY was born in 1761 in Swell, SOM ENG. He was also known as John The Younger.
He was married to Sarah WILLEY on 17 Sep 1781 in Drayton, SOM ENG. John TILLEY and Sarah WILLEY had the following children:
+14 i. Mary TILLEY.
5. Betty TILLEY was born in 1765 in Swell, SOM ENG.
She was married to William LAWRENCE on 8 Mar 1787 in Curry Rivel.
6. Samuel TILLEY was born in 1769 in Swell, SOM ENG.
He was married to Amy CULLEN in 1789. Amy CULLEN was born in 1765.
THIRD GENERATION
10. Mary TILLEY was born in 1790 in Swell, SOM ENG.
She was married to John VAGG on 21 Feb 1814 in Langport, SOM ENG. John VAGG was born on 31 Oct 1790. Mary TILLEY and John VAGG had the following children:
15 i. Harriet VAGG.
+16 ii. Elizabeth VAGG.
+17 iii. John VAGG.
+18 iv. George Tilley VAGG.
+19 v. Harry VAGG.
14. Mary TILLEY was born in 1881 in Drayton, SOM ENG.
Mary TILLEY had the following children:
20 i. George TILLEY was born in 1803 in Muchelney.
She was married to William HODDER on 3 Jun 1811 in Muchelney. Mary TILLEY and William HODDER had the following children:
21 i. James Tilley HODDER was born in 1809 in Muchelney.
22 ii. Joanna HODDER was born on 15 Apr 1812. She died on 25 Feb 1813.
23 iii. Joseph HODDER was born in 1815 in Langport, SOM ENG. He died on 14 May 1890 in Featherston NZL.
24 iv. William HODDER was born in 1817.
25 v. Walter HODDER was born on 19 Jun 1818 in Taunton SOM ENG. He died on 23 Feb 1901 in Featherston NZL.
26 vi. George HODDER was born in 1823 in Alverstoke ENG. He died 1 may 1861 Carcoar NSW AUS.
27 vii. Mary Ann HODDER was born in 1830. She died on 16 Sep 1923 in NZL.
FOURTH GENERATION
16. Elizabeth VAGG was born in 1815. She died in 1859 in Geelong VIC AUS. She was buried in Geelong VIC AUS.
She was married to Jonas JEFFERS about 1838 in South Petherton SOM ENG. Jonas JEFFERS was born in 1817.
17. John VAGG was born in 1817 in Illminster SOM ENG.
He was married to Harriet UNKNOWN.
18. George Tilley VAGG was born in 1819. He died in 1901 in Geelong VIC AUS. He was buried in Eastern Cemetery Geelong.
He was married to Ann HARDING in 1840 in South Petherton SOM ENG. Ann HARDING was born in 1840 in South Petherton SOM ENG.
19. Harry VAGG was born in 1822 in South Petherton SOM ENG.
He was married to Ann MORRIS in 1850 in Westport SOM ENG.
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OTHER CORRESPONDENCE ON WHICH SOME OF THE PRECEDING IS BASED
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From: Pat TILLEY, Red Oak, Texas USA (lti748@airmail.net)
I am researching the TILLEY surname from the area immediately east of
Taunton which includes Curry-Rivel, Fivehead, Isles Abbotts, Coombe St.
Nicholas, and Hambridge. I have come across those Tilley's you mention
in those parish records. I got the parish and census records of
1841-51-61 from the FHC of the LDS.
I have yet to connect George Tilley and Mary Tilley to my line. I
believe that George is probably a son or possibly a brother of my
Thomas Tilley and Elizabeth ??? . There are records of Tilleys in
Curry-Rivel and Isles Abbotts as early as the 1500's.
My interests in the Tilley name include:-
Thomas Tilley- Elizabeth ? 5G-grandparents
Thomas Tilley- Susannah Louch 4G-grandparents
William Tilley- Frances Taylor 3G-great-grandparents
James Tilley- Eliza HUMPHRY GG-grandparents
I found a marriage of a George Tilley and Fanny Davidge in
Curry-Rivel, 4 Nov. 1780.
In Langport District, Burials:
Jan 1782 Harriet, daughter of George and Fanny Tilley
Nov 5 1785 George son of George and Fanny Tilley
Sept 1789 Thomas son of George and Fanny Tilley
1790 John, son of George and Fanny Tilley
1793 Francis , son of George and Frances Tilley
11 July 1808 Hester b. 5 July 1799, daughter of George and Frances Tilley
I don't know if Fanny-Frances-Mary Davidge are all the same person or not.
Langport or the district of Langport, Children of George Tilley
and Frances baptised :
1782 Harriet
1885 George
1789 Francis
1790 Henry
1793 Thomas
1796 James
1808 Hester
At Muchelney, Children of Mary Tilley baptised:
1803 George
1809 James
At Drayton, Children of John Tilley and Mary baptised:
1752 George
1760 John
1761 John
1765 Betty
1769 Samuel
I have other papers to send to do with Tilley including extracts of
Marriages, Burials and Baptisms in the area east of Taunton.
Ancestors of WILLIAM EDWIN TILLEY
FIRST GENERATION
1. WILLIAM EDWIN TILLEY was born on 28 Apr 1851 in DOD LN. OLDLAND,
GLOUCESTER .. He was buried in 1926 in ANTRIM CO. MICHIGAN FAIRVEIW
CEMETERY. He died on 29 Dec 1926 in DETROIT, WAYNE CO.MICHIGAN. He
was christened in COOMBE ST. NICHOLAS, SOM, . He was a MARINE ENGINEER.
He was educated COULD READ AND WRITE.
SECOND GENERATION
2. JAMES TILLEY was born in Feb 1817 in CURRY RIVELL, SOM, . He was
christened on 20 Feb 1817 in CURRY-RIVELL, SOM, . He died in 1869 in EAST
GRINSTEAD, SUSSEX, . He was a FARMER IN 1851 AND 1861. He was CHURCH
OF . He was married to ELIZA HUMPHREY on 30 Dec 1841 in PARISH CHURCH,
ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM, .
3. ELIZA HUMPHREY was born about 1812 in ISLES ABBOTS, SOM, . She died
after 1881. JAMES TILLEY and ELIZA HUMPHREY had the following children:
i. LUCY FRANCES TILLEY was born on 3 Dec 1842 in
CAPEL, KENT
.
ii. EMMA TILLEY was born on 2 Jan 1847 in ISLES ABBOTS,
SOM, .
iii. ANNA TILLEY was born on 14 Jun 1849 in CALDICOT,
MONMOUTHSHIRE, .
1 iv. WILLIAM EDWIN TILLEY.
v. JAMES TILLEY was born on 12 Apr 1853 in BITTON,
GLOUSTERSHIRE.
vi. ELIZABETH TILLEY was born on 2 Oct 1855 in
CURRY-RIVEL, SOM.
vii. ELIZA SUSAN TILLEY was born on 1 Jun in
COOME ST. NICHOLAS, SOM.
THIRD GENERATION
4. WILLIAM TILLEY was born about Jan 1796 in SOM, . He was christened on
19 Jan 1796 in SOM, . He died on 25 Dec 1841 in ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM .
He was a FARMER-AUCTIONEER. He was married to FRANCES TAYLOR on 24 Aug
1816 in PARISH CHURCH, CURRY-RIVEL, SOM, .
5. FRANCES TAYLOR was born about 1801 in SOM, . She died on 6 Jul 1872
in FIVEHEAD, SOM, . She was a KEEPING HOUSE. WILLIAM TILLEY and
FRANCES TAYLOR had the following children:
2 i. JAMES TILLEY.
ii. SUSAN TILLEY was born on 10 Dec 1818 in SOM, .
She was christened in 1823 in CURRY-RIVEL SOM.
She died 10 Oct 1829 PROBABLY SOM
iii. ELIZABETH TILLEY was born on 23 Aug 1819 in SOM
iv. WILLIAM TILLEY was born on 11 Nov 1821 in SOM
v. THOMAS TILLEY was born on 26 Sep 1822 in SOM
He was buried on 6 Mar 1823 PROB. SOM
vi. THOMAS TILLEY was born on 1 Apr 1826 in SOM
vii. SOPHIA TILLEY was born on 14 Aug 1828 in SOM,
viii. ANN TILLEY was born 17 Feb 1835, ISLES ABBOTTS,SOM
6. HENRY HUMPHREY was born about 1776 in SOM, . He was a FARMER. He was
married to HANNAH DUKE on 21 Apr 1800 in ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM.
7. HANNAH DUKE. HENRY HUMPHREY and HANNAH DUKE had the following
children:
i. JAMES HUMPHREY was born in 1801 in SOM, .
ii. SAMUAL HUMPHREY was born in 1805 in SOM, .
iii. EDWARD HUMPHREY was born in 1807.
iv. ANN HUMPHREY was born in 1809.
v. ESTHER HUMPHREY was born in 1811 in SOM, .
3 vi. ELIZA HUMPHREY.
vii. BEN HUMPHREY was born in 1814 in SOM, .
viii. JOSEPH HUMPHREY was born in 1816 in SOM, .
ix. ANNA HUMPHREY was born in 1819 in SOM, .
x. LUCY HUMPHREY was born in 1822 in SOM, .
FOURTH GENERATION
8. THOMAS TILLEY was born about 1750 in ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM . He was
christened on 5 Nov 1750 in ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM, . He died on 2 Dec 1819 in
ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM, . He was married to SUSANNAH LOUCH on 3 Sep 1776 in
ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM, .
9. SUSANNAH LOUCH was born about 1757 in HAMBRIDGE, SOM . She died on 29
Jan 1825 in ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM, . She was buried on 29 Jan 1825 in ISLES
ABBOTTS, SOM, . THOMAS TILLEY and SUSANNAH LOUCH had the following
children:
i. THOMAS TILLEY was christened on 3 Sep 1778 in
ISLES ABBOTTS, SOM
ii. CHARLES TILLEY was born in Mar 1779 in
CURRY-RIVEL, SOM
He was christened on 15 Feb 1780 in SOM, .
He was an AGRICULTURAL LABORER.
4 iii. WILLIAM TILLEY.
iv. ISSAC TILLEY was born about 1803 in
CURRY-RIVEL SOM He was an AGRICULTURAL LABORER.
v. ELIZABETH TILLEY.
FIFTH GENERATION
16. THOMAS TILLEY.
17. ELIZABETH UNKNOWN. THOMAS TILLEY and ELIZABETH UNKNOWN
had the following children:
8 i. THOMAS TILLEY.
18. JOSEPH LOUCH died on 14 Nov 1845 in HAMBRIDGE, SOM .
19. MARY UNKNOWN was born about 1744 in HAMBRIDGE, SOM, . She died on
11 Aug 1838 in HAMBRIDGE, SOM, . JOSEPH LOUCH and MARY UNKNOWN had
the following children:
9 i. SUSANNAH LOUCH.
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From Bill Hite
(W. F. Hite, 8 Medway Cr, BORONIA 3155, Victoria AUS w.hite@bom.gov.au)
I have a copy of George Tilly's Christning record and on the same page
is Fanny Davage. I also have a copy the Marriage Register book showing
marriage between George Tilley and Fanny Davidge and a part copy of
"A Social History of Curry Rivel in the Nineteenth Century" which has
information on the Tilley Family.
I use a program called Family Scrap Book, which handles GEDCOM files
and normally use Wordperfect for text files (however I can read Word
files also). I have been corresponding with Patrick Tilley.
Most of my information has come from other peoples information and
this is a problem as there appears to be some errors somewhere.
Most of the information came from a C.M VAGG who was a descendant
from George Tilly VAGG a son of John Vagg and Mary TILLEY who also came
to Australia. I was aware that there was also a clash of information
as I had a copy of a Descendancy Chart from the "Ancesteral File" which
said that Mary TILLEY m William HODDER and tried to follow it up with
the submitter who lives in South Australia. I spoke to him on the
telephone and although he was sure of his information down from James
Samual TILLEY, he said that the information above was suspect/incorrect.
REGISTER CHART 11-Jul-1998 (from Bill Hite)
Generation 1
1. John Tilly - born 1731 at Curry-Rivel, SOM,
Married Mary Perrey 1756 at Curry-Rivel
Mary Perrey born 1735 at Ilminster, Eng
Children:
2. i. George Tilly - born 1757 at Curry-Rivel
Married Francis Davidge (Fanny) 1780 at Parish Church,
Curry-Rivel
ii. John Tilly - born before 1760
..............................
1. Thomas Davidge - born 1731 at Langport, SOM
Married Mary Tucker 1738 at Langport
. Mary Tucker born 1735 at Langport
Children:
2. i. Francis Davidge (Fanny) - born 1757 at Curry-Rivel, SOM,
Married George Tilly 1780 at Parish Church, Curry-Rivel
.........................
Generation 2
2. George Tilly - born 1757 at Curry-Rivel
Married Francis Davidge (Fanny) 1780 at Parish Church,
Curry-Rivel
Children:
i. Harriet Tilly - born 1782
ii. George Tilly - born 1785
iii. Francesca Tilly - born 1789
3. iv. Mary Tilly - born 1790 -
Married John Vagg 1814 at Langport, SOM,
v. Thomas David Tilly - born 1793
vi. James Samual Tilly - born 1796
vii. Francesa Tilly - born 1798
viii. Hester Tilly - born 1799
.........................
Generation 3
3. Mary Tilly - born 1790 -
Married John Vagg (b. 31 Oct 1790) on 21 Feb1814 at
Langport, SOM. (Daughter Elizabeth VAGG (1815)=Jonas JEFFERS
(1817) m 1838 They had one or two children in then arrived
in Australia 10 Jan 1843 on the Royal Sovereign.)
Children:
i. Harriet Vagg
ii. Elizabeth Vagg - born 1815 - married Jonas Jeffers about
1838 at South Petherton, SOM- died 1859 at Geelong,
Victoria, Australia - buried 1859 at Geelong
iii. John Vagg - born 1817 at Ilminster, - married Harriet ???
iv. George Tilly Vagg - born 1819 - married Ann Harding 1840
at South Petherton, SOM, - died 1901 at Geelong
buried at Eastern Cemetery, Geelong, Victoria, Australia
v. Harry Vagg - born 1822 at South Petherton, SOM,
Married Ann Morris 1850 at Westport, SOM,
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From: Rob Pearson, Shaftesbury, Dorset, England.
( rob.pearson@zetnet.co.uk)
Davidge is not an uncommon name in SOM. My knowledge pre the arrival of
John DAVIDGE in Bristol c. 1820 is sketchy. His father was William DAVIDGE,
servant, who was in Frome in 1780 when John was born. William is not in
the Frome Parish Registers but there were a couple of DAVIDGE families
in the area at that time. (Frome seems to be about 30m. away from
Langport or a days horse ride.)
Ancestors of Sarah Elizabeth DAVIDGE
FIRST GENERATION
1. Sarah Elizabeth DAVIDGE was born on 21 Nov 1858 in 7 Whitehouse St,
Bedminster. She resided 1861 census at 7 Wood St, Lambeth, with family.
She resided 1871 census at 13 Ward St, Lambeth, with family, 12, Scholar.
She resided 1878 July 25 at marriage living at 13 Linstead St, where.
SECOND GENERATION
2. John DAVIDGE was born on 10 Mar 1838 in James' Court, Bedminster.
He died after 1878. He was a Shoemaker, Policeman & Baptist Missionary.
He was married to Martha DOUGLAS on 30 Nov 1856 in Bristol Registry Office.
3. Martha DOUGLAS was born about 1838. She died after 1881. She resided
1851 census at Sion Row with mother & step-father, 13,. John DAVIDGE and
Martha DOUGLAS had the following children:
1 i. Sarah Elizabeth DAVIDGE.
ii. Edwin John DAVIDGE was born on 9 Mar 1861 in
7 Wood St, Lambeth. He was a Royal Marine.
He resided 1861 census at 7 Wood St with family,
age 1 month. He resided 1871 census at 13 Ward St,
Lambeth, with family, 10, Scholar. He resided
1881 census at 13 Linstead St, Kilburn, 20, Royal
Marine on leave.
iii. Thomas DAVIDGE was born about 1863 in Lambeth.
He resided 1871 census at 13 Ward St, Lambeth,
with family, 8, Scholar. He resided 1881 census
at 13 Linstead St, Kilburn, 18, Grocer's Errand Boy.
iv. Elija D DAVIDGE was born about 1865 in Lambeth.
He was an Engine Fitter. He resided 1871 census
at 13 Ward St, Lambeth, with Family, 6, Scholar.
He resided 1881 census at 13 Linstead St, Kilburn,
16, Engine Fitter at.
v. Emily SMITH was born about 1866.
vi. Lilian Emily DAVIDGE was born about 1867 in
Lambeth. She resided 1871 census at 13 Ward St,
Lambeth, with family, 4, Scholar. She resided 1881
census at 13 Linstead St, Kilburn, 14, Scholar.
vii. Ebenezer DAVIDGE was born on 2 Jan 1869 in 13 Ward
St, Lambeth. He resided 1871 census at 13 Ward
St, Lambeth, with family, 2, Scholar. He resided
1881 census at 13 Linstead St, Kilburn, 12,
Scholar.
THIRD GENERATION
4. John DAVIDGE was born in 1808 in Frome, SOM. He died after 1861.
He was a General Labourer, Porter. He was married to Mary Ann ALLEN on
15 Apr 1833 in St Mary-le-Port, Bristol.
5. Mary Ann ALLEN resided 1833 Apr 15 St Mary le Port, Bristol, 'of this parish'. She
resided 1841 census at 12 Bedminster Terrace, born in county (SOM). John DAVIDGE
and Mary Ann ALLEN had the following children:
2 i. John DAVIDGE.
ii. William David DAVIDGE was born on 3 Jan 1834 in
Bristol. He was a Sawyer. He resided 1841 census
at 12 Bedminster Terrace with family, 7, born in
county. He resided 1851 census at Sion Row,
Bedminster with family, 17,
iii. James DAVIDGE was born about 1836 in Bristol.
He resided 1841 census at 12 Bedminster Terrace
with family, 5, born in.
iv. Mary Ann DAVIDGE was born about 1840 in Bedminster.
She resided 1841 census at 12 Bedminster Terrace
with family, 1, born in.
v. Edwin DAVIDGE was born about 1843 in Bedminster.
He died between 1851 and 1853 in Bedminster.
He resided 1851 census at Sion Row, Bedminster, labourer, 8, b.Bedminster.
vi. Elija DAVIDGE was born about 1844 in Bedminster.
He resided 1851 census at Sion Row, Bedminster,
labourer, 7, b.Bedminster.
FOURTH GENERATION
8. William DAVIDGE was a Servant.
9. Harriet. William DAVIDGE and Harriet had the following children:
4 i. John DAVIDGE.
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From: Dr John Betts <dr@browser.demon.co.uk>
To: kob <kob@paradise.net.nz>
Subject: Re: VAGG/TILLEY/DAVIDGE & ORS
Date: Friday, 30 October 1998 18:56
From: "kob" <kob@paradise.net.nz>
To: <Dr@browser.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: VAGG/TILLEY/DAVIDGE & ORS
Date sent: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:52:40 +1300
>
> > About three years, I was in contact with Maree Ring, who was a
> > subscriber to a Hobart, Tasmania BBS, about our mutual interest in the
> > VAGG family..
>
> I came across the VAGG family when working on the HODDER family.
> Attached is a digest of correspondence from interested people showing the
> connections.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin O'Brien
> Wainuiomata, NZL
>
Thanks Kevin for sending on your information. Henry Vagg was my
ggg grandfather, a carpenter, who apparently came up from
Somersset to make his way in London, where he married and had
six kids.
One of them, Mary Ann married my gg grandfather, Richard
Hurst and may have been instrumental in his becoming a
successful timber merchant when the silk trade collapsed in
London.
Incidentally you of course know of Mervyn Vagg, author of the
Vagg Odyssey. I just heard that he intended before his death
passing on his records to a cousin who was one of the Tilley
Vaggs.
I enclose a register printout of my Vaggs in case they are ever
of use to you.
Also I append a list of people working on the Vaggs
Mrs A. Ranson,
Rde 311,
Paperback,
Tasmania 7275,
Australia
Mrs J. Vagg – Elderly, passed most of her information
to Mervyn Vagg. Probably deceased.
50 Grange Park Road,
Leyton,
London,
E10 5ES
Mr R. Harrison,
43 Delta Close,
Royton,
Oldham,
Lancs,
OL2 5DR
Mr Stan Thompson, - see above
162 Halton Road,
Sutton Coldfield,
West Midlands,
B73 6NZ
Murray Vagg, - Probably has the most information
6 Grove Road,
Rosanna,
Victoria,
Australia, 3084
Regards,
John Betts
Dr John Betts <dr@browser.demon.co.uk>
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Hi,
I've been given your email address by Patrick Tilley. He said that you
had been researching the Vagg family of Somerset. I am related to the South
Petherton side of this family.My great*3 grandmother was Annice Vagg who was
born in South Petherton in 1821. I can trace her ancestry back to Richard
Vagg of South Petherton through the line as shown in the attached text file.
I would be very grateful for any information you could give me to do with
this family. I am also trying to trace a copy of a book called "The Vagg
Odyssey: A thousand years of the Vaggs" I know that it was published in
Australia by C. Mervyn Vagg but have as yet been unable to find a copy.
Any assistance on either of these matters would be much appreciated.
Kind Regards
Matthew Brookbank
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Text version of file appended:
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Ancestors of Annice Vagg
Generation No. 1
1. Annice Vagg, born 5 November 1820 in South Petherton, Somerset; died Aft. 1881 in Hotwells, Bristol. She was the daughter of 2. John Vagg and 3. Mary Wines. She married (1) Isidore Haidwieke Millett. He was the son of John Millett and Unknown. She married (2) Henry Nicholls.
Notes for Annice Vagg:
Lived in Hotwells untill she died.
Used her jewelery to buy 354 Hotwells road, Bristol.
More About Annice Vagg:
Occupation: Shopkeeper
Notes for Isidore Haidwieke Millett:
Died six weeks after his son was born. Aged 26.
Died from stone dust.
He was forbidden from marrying his wife so they had to run away.
Lived in Hotwells, Bristol at the time of marriage.
More About Isidore Haidwieke Millett:
Burial: Abt. 1862, Clifton Parish Church
Occupation: Stone Mason
Notes for Henry Nicholls:
Although they were married they never lived together as he only married Vagg
for her jewelery and she found out and left him.
More About Henry Nicholls:
Occupation: General Mason
Child of Annice Vagg and Isidore Millett is:
i. Isidore John Millett, born Abt. 1860 in Bristol1; married Florence Harriet Mitchell 4 October 1897 in Portishead, Somerset1.
Notes for Isidore John Millett:
He was a valuations officer for Bristol Council. He owned two houses a
Fishmongers in Love street and 354 Hotwells rd. He rented one of the houses
out. He was a free mason. Shown in the 1894 Kellys directory as being a
fishmonger at 1 Charlton Rd, Hotwells, Bristol.
In 1881 was shown as living in Clifton, Bristol and was working as a Railway Clerk.
More About Isidore John Millett:
Occupation: Valuations Officer
Notes for Florence Harriet Mitchell:
Lived in Love Street and then moved to
354 Hotwells rd, Bristol. Used to be called 1&2 Charlton place.
Near St Vincents parade and Freelem Place
Later moved to Basingstoke avenue and then to North View Redland.
Generation No. 2
2. John Vagg, born 31 October 1790 in South Petherton, Somerset. He was the son of 4. John Vagg and 5. Mary Elliot. He married 3. Mary Wines 11 January 1818 in South Petherton, Somerset.
3. Mary Wines, born 12 August 1792 in South Petherton, Somerset. She was the daughter of 6. Charles 'Carolus' Wines and 7. Susanna Masters.
Children of John Vagg and Mary Wines are:
1 i. Annice Vagg, born 5 November 1820 in South Petherton, Somerset; died Aft. 1881 in Hotwells, Bristol; married (1) Isidore Haidwieke Millett; married (2) Henry Nicholls.
ii. George Vagg, born 16 July 1820 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iii. William Vagg, born 6 October 1818 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iv. Betsy Vagg, born 25 August 1822 in South Petherton, Somerset.
v. Harry Vagg, born 7 July 1822 in South Petherton, Somerset.
Generation No. 3
4. John Vagg, born 11 November 1759 in South Petherton, Somerset. He was the son of 8. Edward Vagg and 9. Elizabeth Marks. He married 5. Mary Elliot 11 February 1783 in South Petherton, Somerset.
5. Mary Elliot, born in South Petherton, Somerset.
Children of John Vagg and Mary Elliot are:
2 i. John Vagg, born 31 October 1790 in South Petherton, Somerset; married Mary Wines 11 January 1818 in South Petherton, Somerset.
ii. Jenny Vagg, born 22 September 1784 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iii. Sarah Vagg, born 25 January 1788 in South Petherton, Somerset.
6. Charles 'Carolus' Wines, born 1753; died 10 January 1832 in South Petherton, Somerset. He was the son of 12. Robert Wines and 13. Alicia Salisbury. He married 7. Susanna Masters 14 November 1785.
7. Susanna Masters, born 1763; died 7 June 1815 in South Petherton, Somerset.
Children of Charles Wines and Susanna Masters are:
3 i. Mary Wines, born 12 August 1792 in South Petherton, Somerset; married John Vagg 11 January 1818 in South Petherton, Somerset.
ii. Hannah Wines, born 6 June 1799 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iii. Martha Wines, born 12 August 1792 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iv. Simeon Wines, born 1792 in South Petherton, Somerset.
v. Lois Wines, born 14 March 1799 in South Petherton, Somerset.
vi. Gaius Wines, born 1799 in south Petherton, Somerset.
Generation No. 4
8. Edward Vagg, born 30 October 1714 in South Petherton, Somerset. He was the son of 16. Edward Vagg and 17. Mary Glover. He married 9. Elizabeth Marks 1736 in South Petherton, Somerset.
9. Elizabeth Marks.
Children of Edward Vagg and Elizabeth Marks are:
i. Samuel Vagg, born 14 September 1743 in South Petherton, Somerset; married Francis.
ii. Betty Vagg, born 30 January 1744/45 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iii. Mary Vagg, born 1749 in South Petherton, Somerset.
iv. Anne Vagg, born 5 January 1749/50 in South Petherton, Somerset.
v. Richard Vagg, born 1752 in South Petherton, Somerset.
vi. Edward Vagg, born 23 August 1752 in South Petherton, Somerset; married Elizabeth.
vii. Samuel Vagg, born 8 February 1754 in South Petherton, Somerset; married Amy.
4 viii. John Vagg, born 11 November 1759 in South Petherton, Somerset; married Mary Elliot 11 February 1783 in South Petherton, Somerset.
12. Robert Wines, born 1727 in South Petherton, Somerset. He married 13. Alicia Salisbury 14 July 1752 in South Petherton, Parents: George TILLEY and Frances DAVIDGE. Parents: George TILLY. Parents: John TILLEY The Younger and Sarah WILLEY.
She was married to William HODDER on 3 Jun 1811 in Muchelney, Somerset, England.(91) (107) Taken from History on video. Children were: George HODDER, James Tilley HODDER, Joanna HODDER, Joseph HODDER, William HODDER, Walter HODDER, George HODDER II, Mary Ann HODDER.
Mary
TILLEY was born in 1790 in Swell, SOM ENG.
(534) Parents: George TILLEY and
Frances DAVIDGE.She was married to John VAGG on 21 Feb 1814 in Langport, Somerset England. Children were: Elizabeth VAGG, John VAGG, George Tilley VAGG, Harry VAGG.
Samuel
TILLEY was born in 1769 in Drayton.(534)
Parents: John TILLEY and
Mary PERRY.He was married to Amy CULLEN in 1789.(502) Witnesses to marriage: William Yendole & R. Surple (Spurle ?)
Thomas
Davidge TILLEY was born in 1793 in Swell, SOM ENG.
(534) Parents: George TILLEY and
Frances DAVIDGE. George
TILLY Parents: John TILLY and
Mary PERRY.Children were: Mary TILLEY.
John
TILLY. Children were: George TILLY.
Edward
TIMMINGS. He was married to Joyce KNOWSLEY .(2197)
Frances
Jane TINDALLInformation on this family line is fromCheryl Fenn nee Randall of Leeman, by the sea, Western Australia. Email: paul@wn.com.au Children were: Frances Jane HINES, Eliza Jane HINES.
Agnes
Ainsworth TODD was born on 23 Feb 1895. She died on 10 Apr 1990.Children were: Eileen Florence ABBOTT, Douglas ABBOTT, Kenneth ABBOTT.
Wendy
TODD. She was married to William John DICKSON (Billy). She was divorced from William John DICKSON (Billy). (2198) Children were: WDson1 DICKSON.
Heather
TOMBS died Date unknown.(2199)She was married to John CAMERON. (2200)
Denise
TOMLINSON (Private).Children were: Jenny Patricia NEES, Carl Edward NEES.
Hon
Paula Mary TORDOFF. She was married to Brian Wayne DICKSON. Children were: Ella Francis DICKSON , Thomas Patrick DICKSON.
TRACEY
Parents: Mathew WARNES and
Eileen Florence ABBOTT. David
Maurice TRAUGHT(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Gregory TRAUGHT
and Debra Irene THOMASON. Emma
Kylie TRAUGHT(4)
(2) was born. Parents: Gregory TRAUGHT
and Debra Irene THOMASON. Gregory
TRAUGHT(4)
(2) was born.He was married to Debra Irene THOMASON. Children were: David Maurice TRAUGHT , Emma Kylie TRAUGHT.
Patricia
Mary TRAVERSShe was married to Arthur John HEALY on 12 Dec 1945 in Miramar, Wellington.(2201) Children were: John Francis HEALY, Bernard Patrick HEALY, Gregory Leo HEALY, Brendan Arthur HEALY, Philippa Marianne HEALY .
Kim
TRETHEWAY(1)
(2) was born.She was married to Errol John JELLYMAN.
TREVOR
Parents: Alfred SKUDDER and
Lena Elaiine Munn BROWNE.Children were: LYNETTE , PETER, DEBRA.
TRIMBLE
. Alice
TROY. Parents: James TROY and
Bridget CUSSEN.She was married to George BELL .(2202) Children were: Audrey BELL.
Brian
TROY Parents: Leonard TROY and
Alma COOPER. Caren
TROY (Private). Parents: Patrick James TROY (Paddy)
and Carol NUNN. Carrie
TROY Parents: James TROY and
Bridget CUSSEN.She was married to Alfred KNOWSLEY .(2203) Children were: Betty KNOWSLEY, Jack KNOWSLEY, Joyce KNOWSLEY.
Daniel
TROY was born in 1847.(2204) Parents:
John TROY and Mary.He was married to Ellen O'BRIEN on 23 Jan 1875. (2205)
Doreen
TROY Parents: James TROY and
Honora CONDON.She was married to Hanley HOFFMAN .(2206)
Elizabeth
Eileen TROY (Beth) (Private). Parents: Stuart Patrick
TROY (Son Troy) and Doris Emma DAVEY.She was married to Roger D J DEACON on 19 Nov 1966. (2207) Children were: Troy DEACON, Adele DEACON.
Fane
TROY (Private). Parents: Patrick James TROY (Paddy)
and Carol NUNN.
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