Subj: Charles Barron, Jackson Parish LA
Date: 1/3/2000 7:45:24 AM Central Standard Time
From: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu (Lucy Barron)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
What do you think of her question?
Lucy
From: Memarle@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:09:37 EST
Subject: Charles Barron, Jackson Parish LA
To: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu
Lucy, I feel that my Charles Wesley Barron born 1862 is the son of Charles and Annie Elizabeth Brown Barron.
However my Charles told his children that he had brothers named Wade and Wylie. I have never been able to prove this, but there was a Wade Barron in Rusk Co. TX on the 1880 census. My Charles did not show up in Rusk Co until 1884 when he married Helena Browning.
Could your John W. have been Wade or Wylie?
Please let me hear from you.
Happy New Year 2000,
Martha Gibson Lee of Kilgore, TX
Date: 1/3/2000
To: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu
Well, in the May 1881 Navarro County Commissioners Court records it says that John W. Barron was replaced as constable because he was deceased. I see no reason to question this primary record, but I guess we can't dismiss any possibility till checked out.
Date: 1/3/2000 10:36:30 AM Central Standard Time
From: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu (Lucy Barron)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Perhaps we've hit upon our scandal. Could he have run off leaving all to think he was dead? Surely not. Didn't they bury him after the stampede? But what makes you think that she's saying he was alive in 1881?
Date: 1/3/2000
To: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu
Oh, I see said the blind man. So you're thinking maybe our John W. may have been known to the family as Wiley. Charles and Eliza did not have a son named Wiley that I remember. That is a very interesting point.
Date: 1/5/2000 3:11:11 PM Central Standard Time
From: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu (Lucy Barron)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
From: Memarle@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:03:49 EST
Subject: Re: Charles Barron, Jackson Parish LA
To: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu
Lucy,
I have no other information on Wylie other than what I was told by Emmette Lender Barron the son of my Charles Wesley Barron. Emmette said his father told him that he came to East Texas as a teenager with his brothers Wade and Wylie. I know he was in Rusk Co. in 1884 because that is when he married Helena Browning. I know there was a Wade Barron in Rusk Co. on the 1880 census. he was living in the house with another couple. I will have to back and look that up to see who.
I have never found Wylie any where in East Texas. Charles W. was not on the 1880 Rusk County census. I was told that his wife Helena was going to marry one of my Watson line but when Charles W. came on the scene, she changed her mind and married him instead. He would have been 22 at the time he married, so he may have lived in a different County before he came to Rusk Co.
Be sure to let me know if you find any more information that may prove or disprove my Charles W. as being the son of Charles and Annie.
Martha Gibson Lee of Kilgore, TX
Lucy Barron
Date: 1/10/2000 9:22:57 PM Central Standard Time
From: Gvmcmillan
To: mdspiller@fbg.net
CC: Jlb@crcom.net, JBarron933
Dear fellow genealogist:
J. L. Barron forwarded a message to me that appeared to have been forwarded to him from jbarron933@aol.com.
I am Twyla Gayle McMillan who co-authored the Barron book with my Sister, Anecia Dutton. I am very happy to hear that you are now interested in tracing your family history. I am sorry to say, though, that I do not have much more on the Harrison family than appears in the book. After Anecia's death I just could not continue working on the family history - was too painful to do it without her. I became involved in other things with genealogy always "niggling" at me on the back burner. I have recently been making real effort to get back in the swing of genealogy and get all my records computerized.
I would be so happy to have you send me all the updated information on the Harrison family that you would be willing to share. I did not see your name on the e-mail, but from the "e" address I am making a guess that you are Misti Deon Menzies that we did list in the book. If you are Misti, I do have written in the book that you have a brother Max, III and I have a a few other small entries written in as well.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Twyla Gayle McMillan
Date: 1/16/2000
To: dbrakr@nh.ultranet.com
In a message dated 1/16/2000 1:52:24 PM Central Standard Time, dbrakr@nh.ultranet.com writes:
<< If your research has anything on these Missouri Barrons, who mostly lived in Washington County, MO, I would be interested to learn more. If I can help out with research in any way, please let me know! >>
Thanks for your message Daniel. As I read your message I came to Gabriel Barron and then the son that you descended from and thought to myself "I don't remember a Valentine." As I read further I saw that it was not the Gabriel that I was thinking of: the one that settled in Louisiana.
I have heard of your Gabriel Barron, but since my research has been mainly on southern lines, I don't have anything on him. I routed your message to the group of 90+ researchers that I moderate known as the Barron Circle. Hopefully, someone can provide some help. Check my web page for archived messages that may also contain some information on your line.
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 1/16/2000 8:29:59 PM Central Standard Time
From: notwerb@bellsouth.net
Reply-to: notwerb@mail5.lig.bellsouth.net
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hello John, Barbara Barron Price from Waco, TX. gave me your address. My Barron ancestor, Nancy Elizabeth Barron, was born to Joseph M. and Sabre Bryant Barron Aug. 28, 1847 in Barbour Co. Al. Nancy had a brother named Randolph Barron. If you have any information on my Barron line, please let me know. I would greatly appreciate it!
Thanks, Warren Brewton
Date: 1/17/2000
To: notwerb@mail5.lig.bellsouth.net
Warren, the only thing I have on them is the marriage and the child Nancy. I will add the info that you sent for future reference. I have routed your message to the Barron Circle which is a group of 90+ Barron researchers. Hopefully some can help.
I would be glad to add you to the e-mail list if you like. Barbara Price is one of our members. You can check some of our work on my web page at: John Barron's Home Page
By the way, I have some ancestors from Lenoir Co., NC & later TN named Bruton which was sometimes spelled Brewton. Any connection?
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 1/17/2000 9:17:01 AM Central Standard Time
From: MadMarj
To: JBarron933
Dear Sir,
I will search through my data (copius) on the John and Joseph Barron lines to see if I have anything on your ancestors. I have one large book compiled by a Barron in Utah (Mormon) about the John Barron line; and I was a subscriber for years to the Barron Newsletter, so I have all the old back issues. It will just take time.
And time is a thing I don't have a lot of! I just turned 80. I am a descendant of John Barron (MD and KY)>William McBarron>William E. Barron>Sarah Frances Barron(m:George Harvey Wheeldon). The last are my grandparents. I am Marjorie Frances (for grandmothers) Wheeldon Rogers. Many of our line went to Indiana and to Missouri---So we'll see...
Incidentally, I grew up in the mountains of Kentucky and became a Congregationalist because they had a small mission in our town: and because the only other choice was Baptist and the little kids had to go upstairs for Sunday school! My dad was afraid some big kid would push his little darling and she would fall down the steps.
Thankfully liberal karma surrounded me and continues to do so.
Best,
Marjorie W. Rogers
Date: 1/17/2000
To: MadMarj
Thank you Marjorie. I assume you are referring to the Gabriel Barron message. I did not have anything on him in my files so I hope you find him. If you do I will pass it on to the gentleman who asked me.
Thank you for the little story; daddies are like that about their little girls.
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 1/17/2000 2:31:53 PM Central Standard Time
From: MadMarj
To: JBarron933
Dear John,
I will pass this information along to you since you seem to have gotten the message I thought I sent to Daniel. Please pass it along.
I searched my John and Josepth data and found nothing. But I am never one to quit because of initial failure. I went on the Internet to http;//www familytreemaker.com/ There the home page gave a search engine. I filled in Gabriel Barron and got a surprising number of hits. Of course, I didn't check them all-but the very first one on the list had a large amount of information on Gabriel, Valentine , Herny and others--all of Washington Co. MO.
Our friend should get the Family Treemaker program so he can keep his own records AND take advantage of their Users Home Page.
I checked several discs that I own and found some references to Ray Barron, but all were Private, since he is till living.
Please pass this on and give my Best Wishes to Daniel.
and Best to you, too.
Marj Rogers
Date: 1/17/2000 4:35:24 PM Central Standard Time
From: CP4FSU
To: JBarron933
Hi Warren:
I am also descendent from the Barron line of Barbour County, Al. and I'm pretty sure that Randolph Barron is in my fathers line. Unfortunately I have not been into doing research for the last year and will have to go through all the information. Will look and let you know what I find as soon as I can.
Carolyn Ponds
Date: 1/17/2000 10:20:05 PM Central Standard Time
From: notwerb@bellsouth.net
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, More info. for your Barron databank: Nancy Elizabeth Barron married John
Henry Wade Braswell. Their son was Richard and their daughter was Mary Lou
(Lula) Braswell. She was born 1/5/1873 in Hatchechubbe, Al. (Russell Co.) Lula
married my Grandfather, William Benjamin Brewton 4/3/1889. She died 6/17/1951
in Panama City Fl. My Father, Sewall Warren Brewton was their youngest child. In
response to your question, my Brewtons are also from N.C. We have not been able
to determine our GGGG Grandfather's given name, but his wife's name was Isabel
Bruton. We have been fortunate to find several documents on her (including her
entry in the 1780 tax rolls for New Bern District, old Dobbs- Lenoir Co). What
was your Bruton ancestor's name in Lenoir Co? -----------My sisters and I would
like to be added to the Barron Circle. Is it the Home Page under your name? If
you are interested, there is a Bruton List. It is
Bruton-L-request@rootsweb.com Just for future ref., my sisters are Carol
Forney, YukiYama2@aol.com and Phyllis Clayton, MYSEAGA@aol.com
Warren Brewton, Asheville, N.C.
Date: 1/18/2000 6:53:59 AM Central Standard Time
From: dbrakr@nh.ultranet.com (The Randalls)
To: JBarron933@aol.com, MadMarj@aol.com
Dear John and Marj,
Thanks for this info. The Washington County, Missouri link is my line and I had acutally just stumbled upon it two days ago through another channel. Glad to know others are out there helping, too! Of course, my ultimate goal is to find out from whence we came (was it Scotland or France?!) But for now, this is an amazing and very significant piece. By the way, I don't need info on Ray Barron...he's my father and I see him and talk to him a lot!!!! I found Ray (my natural parent-I was adopted) about 7 years ago. We have been working together on this project....this is the first real breakthrough in some time. As I said, our ultimate goal is to find our country and town of origin and to travel there together...most meaningful. Again, thank you. If you come up with other ideas please let me know. By the way, do you know.....are the Barrons Scottish or French? Both?
Best wishes,
Daniel Barron Randall
Date: 1/19/2000 9:58:08 AM Central Standard Time
From: sarchet@texasonline.net (Donna Sarchet)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, I am attaching a copy of my working draft on the James Smith (d. 1799) of Wilkes Co., GA. Two of James Smith's children married two of Prudence (Davis) Barron's children. Prudence's daughter who married John Smith was previously unknown, although the now-infamous Garrard letter states that there "may have been other children."
Interestingly, my contact in GA who descends from John Smith (m. the Barron dau, given name unknown), just this week received a response from a researcher in Utah (to whom she had written 5 years ago and until now had never heard from) saying that John Smith's wife's given name was Prudence, maiden name unknown. What's very interesting about this is that the lady in Utah is totally unaware of any Barron connection yet she came up with the given name of Prudence. We've written to ask her for sources on this wife's given name.
Regarding John Smith, consider the following:
1) He is one of the (apparent) legatees indemnifying the executors of Prudence Barron's estate in 1796 for the sale of her personal and real property (the other persons who signed off all had the surname of Barron--in addition to Jacob Garrard, proven son-in-law of Prudence).
2) John Smith was Prudence's close neighbor in Wilkes Co. (first appears in tax rolls in 1790 next to father James Smith). In addition, in 1798 he bought Prudence's land from Samuel Barron.
3) John Smith's father, James Smith, was a native of Craven Co., NC, as were their close associates the Rices and Fosters. (Also, James Willis, the co-executor of Prudence's estate, along with her son Samuel Barron, was a native of Craven Co.)
4) John Smith's sister, Martha "Patty" Smith (formerly believed to be Martha "Patty" Farr), married William Barron, Jr. (son of Prudence).
[James Smith, in Oglethorpe Co. deed records, sold for a small sum his land there to be divided between son John Smith and son-in-law William Barron. Patty Barron is named as a dau. in James Smith's will, and William Barron appears in the estate returns collecting her portion. William Barron is the only person by that name in Wilkes Co. records for that time period. Also, two Collum children's birth entries appear in William and Martha Barron's Bible; James Smith had a dau. who married David Collum. Also, William and Martha Barron named a son Smith Barron. Also, in years of looking at Farrs/Pharrs/Phairs in Wilkes Co., I've found none of them appear to have a dau. Martha or have any contact with the Barrons.]
5) John Smith moved to Hancock Co. in 1801 along with William Barron and David Collum (who married a dau. of James Smith). All were buyers at the same estate sale for a Charles Waller (a surname which, perhaps coincidentally, also appears in conjunction with Smith, Foster, Rice, Davis, and Barron in Craven Co., NC court minutes).
6) John Smith named a daughter Prudence Barron (his wife may have also been named Prudence).
7) John Smith's grandson, James Smith (b. 1797), married Martha Sarah Pool in Jones Co., GA. This Pool wife was the sister to Hiram Barron's wife, Phereby Pool (Hiram Barron was the son of John Barron and Frances Garrard and grandson of Prudence). This James Smith grandson named his first daughter Prudence and a son Hiram Barron Smith--and ended up in Tallapoosa Co., AL, as did many of Prudence's descendants.
Anyway, I was thinking about posting the Barron portions (i.e., the information on John Smith/--?-- Barron and William Barron/Martha Smith to the Barron Circle.
However, perhaps that is too lengthy? Instead, should I/you post a message saying I have a file that I will be happy to send any Barron researcher interested in this Barron line?
By the way, I'm still working on this, but I think I have a brother (or at least a close relative) for Prudence. His name is Richard Davis and he is her next door neighbor in Wilkes Co. tax records. William Barron, son of Prudence, witnesses one of his deeds. There is a Richard Davis in Craven Co. records as well (an orphan boy being apprenticed out; recall Prudence Davis in those records is identified as a being a dau. of Thomas Davis, dec'd; Richard Davis in Wilkes names a son Thomas).
Also, the land description on William Barron's land in Craven Co. is right in the same neighborhood as that of James Smith, the Rices, and the Fosters (who married into the Smith family).
Any suggestions you have on how I can present this material would be welcomed. I'm interested in generating interest into researching "the rest of the story."
Donna Sarchet
Date: 1/21/2000 10:59:44 PM Central Standard Time
From: harley9@earthlink.net (The Whitts)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
Looking for a Samuel M. Barron born in Miss. about Mar. 1846. Need his parents names and brothers and sisters names. Missing 29 yrs. of his life, from the time he was born till he married in Orange, tx in 1875 to a Elizabeth Robin Blanchard. His death cert. says he was born in Miss. but did not list parents names. He lived in Orange, tx and in Cameron Parish, La and back to Orange where he died in 1918.
Thank You Karen
Date: 1/26/2000 12:53:09 PM Central Standard Time
From: tdstepen@peoplescom.net (Tommy Stephenson)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
John,
I am researching Alexander Barron Sr.,Alexander Barron, Jr.,William Barron, Sr.,William Barron, Sr.,William Barron, Jr.,and John Barron, all related. They went to Giles with James Montgomery and Samuel Stephenson, all related by marriage. Alexander Barron, Jr. went to Lauderdale with his wife Elizabeth Liddell.
My Samuel Stephenson b. 1795 in York County, S.C.,the son of Robert Stephenson and his wife Jane Barron was in Limestone County, Al. by 1822,and was living in Madison County, AL in 1860. John Barron married Dorcas Stephenson, sister to my Samuel Stephenson. John was the son of Alexander Barron of Pendleton County, S.C.
We can not track the Barrons after 1820,except that Alexander Jr. went to Lauderdale.
On one of the deeds for Pendleton County, S.C. Hillhouses, Dobbins, and Barrons are mentioned at your website. Alexander Barron sold out in Pendleton in 1805 and went to Giles. David Dickey married Margaret Stephenson in York County in 1788 and went to Livingston County, Ky. An 1819 deed in Livingston mentions David Dickey and James Hillhouse. A lady in Giles County, TN. sent me a message that she knew the Hillhouses, Barrons, and Stephensons all lived on Bullocks Creek in York County. She is interested in a Dobbins who married a James Stephenson
All my Stephenson, Barron, Dickey, Montgomery, and Hillhouse information comes from Mr. Elmer O. Parker, a Stephenson cousin of mine in South Carolina and an employee of the archives in Washington D.C. for over thirty years. He claims that a sister of our Jane Barron, Sarah married into the Hillhouse family.
James Stephenson(1755-1798) married Jane Barron in York County,S.C. in 1784
Children:
Margaret Stephenson m. James Montgomery c.1781
Dorcas Stephenson b.1790 m. John Barron(1782-c.1819)
Samuel Stephenson b.1783 m. Mary Shields
Mr. Parker is a descendant of Samuel's brother John Stephenson b.1785 m. Elinor Cooper.
Mr. Parker wrote that he has never been successful in connecting the large Barron family of Archibald Barron in York with our Barrons.
Jane Barron was the daughter of Capt. John Barron and Margaret Meeks Barron of Maryland.
There was a James Montgomery in Limestone County,Al. who left a will in 1846,named sons,James A.,Andrew,Robert,and Samuel. This James Montgomery's wife was named Jane. My Samuel Stephenson was living in Limestone in 1822 when his son, George Alexander Stephenson,was born.
I enjoyed your website and thought I would sent you this message.
Tom Stephenson
Date: 1/31/2000 8:07:24 AM Central Standard Time
From: jzyeary@juno.com (Julia Yeary)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hello Mr. Barron,
Several of my cousins and I have been researching the lineage of Davis Barron and Maria (Mariah, a Choctaw indian lady), our ancestors. This is as far back as we can go and still say with absolute certainty that our research is correct and true.
Some of us believe that Davis' father was Samuel Barron (died 1801 in GA?) who married Jane Miller. Some of us also believe that this Samuel Barron (died 1801 in GA?) is the son of a Samuel Barron (who died in the Revolutionary War) and Ann Brazil. The widow, Ann Brazil Barron, petitioned for a land grant for her only son, Samuel, in Washington County, Georgia in the year 1784.
My questions are: Who is Samuel Barron and Ann Brazil? And who is Samuel Barron and Jane Miller? There are so many Samuels in Barron lineages that it is nigh to impossible to trace them. It was said, by one of our Barron searchers, that "our" Samuel Barron (who died in Rev. War) could possibly be the son of Commodore James Barron, Jr. One researcher said that this Commodore did have a son named Samuel, but is he our Samuel? Who is this Commodore and where did he come from? Could he be an ancestor to our line?
Can you help us or shed any light on this mish mash of information? Anything would be appreciated. I have a fairly extensive lineage of the Barron/Davis/Gerrard line and also of Ellis Barron of Waterford and from what I can see, they aren't our's.
Than you for your help in this matter. Julia Z. Yeary, Tyler, Texas
Date: 1/31/2000
To: jzyeary@juno.com
Julia, I will route your message to the Barron Circle and do a little more checking into my records too. In your message you say that you know with absolute certainty the Mariah (perhaps Walden?) was Choctaw Indian. What IS absolutely certain is that there were no Choctaw in South Carolina where she said she had been born. They were strictly a southern Mississippi tribe separated from Georgia/Carolina by the warlike Creeks who killed them on sight.
Study your evidence and try and determine where this claim of Indian ancestry really came from. I've seen it referenced many times, but expect that it all goes back to a single source. Evaluate that source. Was it contemporary with her or from after she died.
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 1/31/2000 3:19:20 PM Central Standard Time
From: jzyeary@juno.com (Julia Yeary)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Thank you Mr. Barron for your quick reply. I must say that you are correct in the statement about Mariah (Walden) Barron. I just went along with the crowd and the assumption that they were right about Maria's ancestry. I have not tried to prove one way or another if she truly is Choctaw. Just accepted what I had been told by others, even my own mother had told me that Maria was indian.
Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Julia Yeary
Date: 1/31/2000 9:44:51 PM Central Standard Time
From: hamlet@flash.net (Patrick M. Harrison)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
For many years, the descendants of James and Jemimah Barron have attempted to determine the maiden name of Jemimah without success. A number of years ago, I discovered a census listing that caused me to harbor a belief that she might be Jemimah Stevenson. There is a part of the 1800 census of Pendleton District, South Carolina that may have some relevance to this search. Albeit, the name of the man is Barnes and not Barron but here are the reasons that I have been researching the Stevenson Family. This is the census record (which is in the same area where our James and Jemimah owned land).
#989 Benjamin Stevenson
#990 Jemimna Stevens 20000-10011-00
#991 James Barnes 41010-21110-00
1. It is quite possible that James Barron was listed as Barnes in the census, it has happened repeatedly with the Barron family.
2. the ages of the children and the number of children shown for James Barnes closely approximate the numbers and ages of James Barron's children.
3. there is a Jemimah Stevens listed in the next household and she is a widow. When reviewing the actual census record page, it appears that the census taker left off the "on" from Jemima Stevens name and quite possibly her name (like neighbor Benjamin) is also Stevenson, and quite possibly she named her daughter Jemimah who married a James Barron, not Barnes.
4. Number #984 lists a John Grissom/Gresham, a land speculator who sold land to our James Barron and also sold land for the "widow" Stevenson.
So, is this James Barnes our James Barron living next to his widowed mother-in-law? We don't know as I have never been able to find a probate - intestate or will - for Widow Stevenson to determine whether she lists a daughter Jemimah Barron. She undoubtedly owned land, probably left by her husband, and if we could find a record of the settlement of her estate - if she died in that location without selling and moving to Georgia - then we might find a "smoking gun."
As you know Tommy, Stevenson and Stephenson are interchangeable in many records and through your research, have you ever come across any records that might relate to Jemimah Stevenson, Jemimah Stevens, Benjamin Stevenson that might relate to your Stephenson clan. They did marry into a branch of the Barron family and this might give us a clue to connect the York Co., Barrons with the Pendleton Co. Barrons and the Stevenson-Stevenson family.
If I could only find Widow Stevenson's probate!!!!!!!!
Cordially, Patrick Harrison
Date: 2/1/2000 1:35:17 PM Central Standard Time
From: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu (Lucy Barron)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
I'm glad this guy wrote you. These are the same STEPHENSON/BARRON/MONTGOMERY lines I saw on the rootsweb list that I emailed you about last week. I was particularly interested in it because the STEPHENSONs and BARRONs of Tryon/Lincoln Co., NC (the ones from whence we may descend if Thomas and not Charles is our BARRON ancestor) may be related to this bunch as the STEPHENSONs and BARRONs intermingled there, too.
Date: 2/1/2000 10:47:40 PM Central Standard Time
From: tdstepen@peoplescom.net (Tommy Stephenson)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Patrick,
I have been corresponding with Mr. Parker since the early 1980's, and he has not mentioned Jemimah or a Benjamin Stevenson/Stephenson. I also checked an article that listed all the heads of families of our Stephensons and found no Jemimah or Benjamin Stevenson.
I have sent messages to the York County, S.C. mailing list ,and Mary Davis checked the book on the Archibald Barron family by James A. Barron(1878-1933). She wrote me that she found no mention of the surname Stephenson in the book. I assume she knows it can be spelled Stevenson. She did mention that there was a James Barron who lived on the Broad River, but returned to Pennsylvania or Virginia after the Revolution. The Broad River is in the area of my John Stephenson. Another James Barron lived about two miles from the Broad River. MaryDavis(marydavis@prodigy.net) said the book is about three hundred pages with an index, but not every name shows up in the index. Her Barrons settled in Cherokee County, Al.
There was another large family of Stephensons/Stevensons/Stinsons who settled on Turkey Creek in York County,S.C. I checked the sheets on this family, but I did not find the name Jemimah,Benjamin,or Barron listed.
Archibald and Elizabeth Ingram Barron had four children:
Elizabeth,b. 1756,Ireland
John,b. 1763,Ireland
Thomas b. 1769,S.C.
William b.1772,S.C.
The only Pendleton Stevenson family I know something about is an Alexander Stevenson born in South Carolina in 1800,his father was George Stevenson from Ireland. Alexander Stevenson married Margaret Seawright and they had a son,Isaiah b.in Pendleton in 1827. I was sent a message on an N.W.Stevenson b. in 1834 in Pendleton whose mother was a Seawright,and this N.W. Stevenson went to Lincoln County,GA. No Benjamin or Jemimah Stevenson that I know about.
There were some Stephensons who came directly from County Antrim,Ireland to South Carolina in 1772. One Hugh Stephenson married his cousin,Margaret Stephenson in York County,S.C. about 1794. By 1819 they were in Lawrence County,Al. One John Barron shows up in Lawrence County,Al. in 1820.
I am sure Mr. Parker has not told me everything he knows about his Stephensons and Barrons,so I will write him and ask him if he has any information on Benjamin and Jemimah Stevenson and a Barron connection in Pendleton.
Tom Stephenson
Date: 2/3/2000 9:49:57 PM Central Standard Time
From: bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net (Bob Kruschwitz)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
I would like to request to be added to your distribution list for the Barron Circle. I am descended from William and Prudence Davis Barron > William and Martha Smith (not Farr as is widely accepted) Barron > two of their sons, Smith Barron and Joseph Barron. I have been researching the line for about 20 years, focusing the last few years on trying to untangle the Barron connections in late 1700s / early 1800s Georgia. I have corresponded with several researchers working on the same problem in Georgia and the Carolinas.
I was aware of the Barron Circle through old postings of e-mails on your web site, but did not know if the Circle was still active. Donna Sarchet informed me that it is indeed active and quite beneficial. I would appreciate learning from the various correspondences and contributing where I can.
Thanks and best regards,
Vicki Barron Kruschwitz
Date: 2/4/2000 2:24:01 PM Central Standard Time
From: notwerb@bellsouth.net
To: bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net
Vicki, I just received a copy of your request to be added to the Barron Circle. It was good news for me because I am descended from Joseph M. Barron and Sabre Bryant. To the best of my knowledge, they had only two children--- my great grandmother, Nancy Elizabeth Barron(born, Aug.28,1847 Barbour Co. AL.), and a brother, Randolph Barron ( born in either Russell Co. AL.or Barbour Co.). Both Russell and Barbour Co. are on the Ga. line. I had heard William's brother Henry had lived in Barbour Co. before moving on toward La., and have just recently been inquiring the availability of a list of William and Samuel's children. What do you think? Could my Joseph be the one you made a ref. to? Thanks and Look forward to hearing from you,
Warren Brewton
Date: 2/6/2000 12:32:22 PM Central Standard Time
From: fdbrown@bayou.com (David Brown)
To: jbarron933@aol.com (John C Barron)
John,
I appreciate the time you took to talk to me earlier. As I said I am researching the Barrons of Natchitoches Parish and I do have my great grandmothers picture album that has several of the old style tin-type pictures in them. This album is engraved with the name Theodosia Jane Barron and I need help in identifying these pictures. This album is at least 120 years old. Theodosia married my great grandfather in 1880 so she had this album before then. Any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
David Brown
Date: 2/7/2000 11:50:11 PM Central Standard Time
From: Bjlub
To: JBarron933
John, may I offer my most sincere Congrats! I immediately ordered your CD. When is the CD signing scheduled? When I extract my names off the CD, I will donate it to our local Library Genie Section.
I read with interest about the LA BARRON photo album. The question was the album from within the Gabriel and Rev. John C. BARRON line? One of our college friends, Buddy Barron, is the great grandson of Rev. John and Emma Grace Reese. Buddy is a Lubbock resident and might be helpful in identifying some of the later photos if it is from his line, direct or collateral. His Uncle Bill Barron, of Waco died within the last months. The last of that generation. Buddy made several attempts with the son of Killeen to ask his dad some family history stories.
To answer my curiosity about the BARRON lines, two SHUMAKER cousins "sez" our RW GF, John Harmon SHUMAKER married an Elizabeth BARRON. I have been unable to prove that "sez" statement.
May I tell you a brief Barron story. Buddy is an MS victim and anytime anything about his family appeared on the Circle I made a hard copy and took it to him. When he was in our home one day and saw my vertical files falling off my four drawer filing cabinet. Shortly thereafter he had one of his employees deliver a four drawerer.
The standing 50 year old joke aimed at Buddy is he was born into a right handed world and has never compensated for his left-handedness. One of his sons is a bright computerer something and gave Buddy web TV with the wish he could enjoy and use it. Nope, each time he attempted to use the attachment, he lost his cable TV services. "Yes, Buddy you have never compensated."
I will close with another heartfelt CONGRATULATION.
Best,
Betty Cole Wienke
Bjlub
P.S. John please tell me if I am going too far afield to invite Rick Ribble to join on. His wife is a descendant of Sol's sister Nancy BARRON/D.C. SNOW. He is an excellent researcher, however, unable document Sol's and Nancy's father, Joseph BARRON. I don't believe he accepted Patrick H's rendition. I genuinely believe, if anyone can prove Joseph, Rick has the skills. One more true story and I am out of here. In the early to mid 1860s in Hamilton Co. TX my ggrandmother CLOVER/HOWARD and her 17 year old sister-in-law, gaunt Amanda HOWARD were riding sidesaddle and observed the Indian raid in progress on Miss Ann Whitney's school. The two women first reached Judge David Crockett SNOW's home to alert the men in the valley. My gaunt was a more expert horsewoman and cleared a 6 or 8 rail fence with an Indian in hot pursuit to reach the Judge's home. My ganny fell off her horse leaving her uninjured and the Indian stole her horse. My Mother told us this story on rainy afternoons and would make a drawing on the playroom chalkboard to illustrate a rail fence. I have recently copied that happening from a Hamiltonian's book-not a "mug" book. Ironically, my HOWARD, GANN, CLOVER, and MASSINGILL lines were living in the same valley with BARRONS
Date: 2/9/2000 7:50:58 PM Central Standard Time
From: fdbrown@bayou.com (David Brown)
To: Bjlub@aol.com, JBARRON933@aol.com
The album you are referring to is the Llewellyn G Barron and Sarah Jane Thompson line of the l880 time period of Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana. This album is engraved with the name of Theodosia Jane Barron, (daughter of Llewellyn G Barron and Sarah Jane Thompson). Theodosia obviously had this album before she was married, (which was in 1880). This album is at least 120 years old and all the pictures are tin-type pictures. She married James W Jacob in 1880. Theodosia Jane Barron and James W Jacob are my great grand parents.
If there is anyone that you think could be of any assistance in identifying any of these individuals I sure would appreciate hearing about them. These pctures are all scanned and saved on a CD. If there is a place to upload hem so they can be viewed by the masses on the internet I'd sure be glad to upload some of them.
Thanks, David Brown
Date: 2/12/2000 9:10:12 PM Central Standard Time
From: pwjacob@mindspring.com (Patrick W. Jacob)
To: jbarron933@aol.com (John C. Barron)
Can any one shed any light on the origin of the middle names of Gillen, Gilliland, or Gwilliam in the Barron family. These names are given in various documents for the Llewellyn G. Barron's - of which they were at least four - who descended from Gabriel M. Barron. The Gillen and Gilliland seem like Irish surnames to me and could be those of an ancestor.
Patrick
Date: 2/16/2000 12:00:42 AM Central Standard Time
From: CColoradomtn@cs.com
To: JBarron933
1. James Barron m. Jemima
2. Joseph Barron m. Hannah McClanahan
3. James Barron (b. 1813) m. Elizabeth Childress (b. 1816)
4. Hannah Barron (b. 1849) m. Lindsey F. Smith (b. 1840). Hannah died and was buried in Shiloh Cemetary, Smith County Tx. in June 1912. She was the second wife of Lindsey, but outlived him.
5. Louis W. Smith (b. 1882 in Troup, Smith County, Texas) m. Minnie Margaret Rothrock (b. April 13, 1902).
6. Louis Harvey Smith (b. Sept. 9 1924 in Burkburnett, Wichita County, Texas)
7. Carey Smith (b. Nov 9, 1951 -- 100 years to the day after Joseph Barron died)
I will be in San Antonio this summer, and wonder if there is information that I could see if I came to Austin? This is really exciting. Only two weeks ago when I started searching for my family roots, I only knew my grandfather Louis W. Smith's name. Now I have more family than I dreamed possible!
Thank you!
Carey Smith
Spokane, Washington
Date: 2/16/2000 8:09:48 PM Central Standard Time
From: YukiYama2
To: JBarron933, accotinkbob@erols.com (Bob A. Barron)
To: Barron Circle
I am not sure if this is the correct way to post to the List for help. Please correct me if it is not.
I am searching for help locating information on my great grandmother's family. I believe it was on the 1850 Barbour Co. Al. Census that Joseph M. Barron and wife Sabre Bryant were listed with child Nancy Elizabeth Barron. Nancy was born Aug. 28, 1847 in Barbour Co. She married John Henry Wade Braswell and later lived in Russell Co. AL. She had a brother Randolph Barron who moved from Castleberry, AL to Little Creek, Mississippi to build a veneer mill, the first in the US, with niece and nephew (Jim and Martha Angeline Braswell Skinner). This was sometime before 1911. Randolph is said to have invented the knife to cut veneer for tomato crates and egg crates, etc. Little Creek is where the industry started and Jim Skinner owned a sawmill there which he sold in 1911.
Nancy Elizabeth Barron Braswell's other daughter, Mary Lou Braswell Brewton, was my Grandmother. In her possessions we found a picture of a male (prob. age 5) and 2 females (prob. ages 3 and a few months). There were no names, just written "Oscar Barron's Children."
Any help with this family would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Carol Brewton Forney
Date: 2/17/2000
To: LeAnneGoudeau@msn.com
LeAnne, I believe that you have mixed up two separate Barron line in the ancestor list that you submitted to the BARRON Rootsweb list. I suggest that you examine your sources with a very critical eye and keep only those that you have direct evidence for which will probably get you only back to Agesilus Barron. His father may have been the Samuel that you show, but the other Samuel belongs the "Capt" William Barron line which did not actually come from Ireland but instead Craven Co., NC.
I moderate a group of 100+ on-line researchers who study the southern Barrons. Many share your line and can be of assistance. We debate these topics regularly and invite you to join our group. You can see some of our work on my web page.
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 2/19/2000 2:34:56 PM Central Standard Time
From: Cvchess1
To: JBarron933
Hi John,
I appreciate the info that you send to me periodically. Naturally, not much applies to my part of the Barron family, but it is interesting to read. And who knows when I may find that some of it does apply to my family.
Would you please post a message to the circle? I am trying to find the family of Samuel Madison Barron and Elizabeth Ann "Betty" Guynes in 1850. They, with their children, Henry, Mack, and six other children appear on the 1860 census of Ashley Co. AR, even though they were from Copiah or Simpson Co. MS. Betty Guynes had died by then and the father was remarried to Aramintha Buie, who appears on this 1860 census with him.
In 1870 they appear on the Simpson Co. MS census. I would like to know where these people are in 1850. Elizabeth Ann "Betty" Guynes was living at that time and I would think that they are in MS or AR. I am trying to prove that Mack, the second son of Samuel Madison Barron and Elizazbeth Ann "Betty" Guynes is also a Samuel Madison Barron and this census information may help me do this. From all the information that my grandmother gave me years ago, I know he is, but I need to prove it for the records. An official birth record of Mack (Samuel Madison Barron) or a church record could also help. He was born March 9, 1846.
John, thanks for any help you can give me by posting this with the other members. As I said, I appreciate all that you do in spreading information about the Barrons.
Sincerely,
Charles V. Chesson
Date: 2/19/2000 1:52:38 AM Central Standard Time
From: Bjlub
To: JBarron933
I extracted the above name from the 1835 RW TN Pension List requested by the Secretary of War to be sent to D.C. William BARRON, Washington Co, Private, North Carolina Line, $28.33 Annual Allowance, $84.99 Amount Received, 20 Feb, 1833 Pension Started, Age 79. Copied and indexed by Wm. R. Navey, P.O. Box 251, Holly Ridge, NC 28445. Report from the Secretary of War In Relation to the Pension Establishment of United States 1835-Report from the Secretary of the War in obedience to Resolutions of the Senate on 5th and 30th of June 1834 and March 3, 1835. In Relation To The Pension Establishment of United States, Washington, printed by Duff/Green, 1835. There were several Barnes listed, if the above is of interest to descendants I can send the URL.
Betty Cole Wienke
Date: 3/4/2000 11:18:51 AM Central Standard Time
From: fdbrown@bayou.com (David Brown)
To: jbarron933@aol.com (John C Barron)
John,
Do you have any information on the Llewellyn G Barron and Sarah Jane Thompson family of Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana? My research has been centered on this group for a little while now and I am trying to run down all the children of that marriage to see where they went and what may have happened to them. I was hoping you may be able to electronically send me something on that particular family. I am mainly interested in Leonard Barron and John Bunyan Barron. I think they made their way to Texas in the late 1800's but I want to find out for sure. Anything you may be able to send would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, David Brown
Date: 3/4/2000
To: fdbrown@bayou.com
CC: Barron Circle
David, most of what I have is from our Barron Circle member, Beth Hillis. I'm sure she can add much more to it. Anyway, here goes:
1 - Llewellyn Gilliland BARRON
Born - Abt 1832/1835 MS
Note - !CENSUS:
Rapides Ph., LA 1850 (p 92).
Natchitoches Par., LA 1880 (Ward 2, ed 32, sh 26). Age 48 b MS, farmer.
!FATHER: Hillis, Beth (25206 Dewdrop Ct.; Magnolia, TX 77355). 1994. Gabriel
Barron Manuscript. Copy in possession of John C. Barron.
sp- Sarah Jane THOMPSON
Born - Abt 1834 LA
Mar. - Bef 1857 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Bienville Par., LA 1870 (Ward 5, p 102). Age 36 b LA.
Natchitoches Par., LA 1880 (Ward 2, ed 32, sh 26). Age 45 b LA.
!MARRIAGE: Bienville Par. Successions in The Genie. 6(4):13.
2 - Sicily BARRON
Born - Abt 1857 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Bienville Ph., LA 1870 (Ward 5, p 102). Age 13 b LA.
2 - Theodocia Jane BARRON
Born - Abt 1858/1860 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Bienville Ph., LA 1870 (Ward 5, p 102). Age 12 b LA.
Natchitoches Ph., LA 1880 (ed 82, sh 26). Age 20 b LA.
2 - Llewellyn BARRON
Born - Abt 1860 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Bienville Ph., LA 1870 (Ward 5, p 102). Age 10 b LA.
2 - Horace BARRON
Born - Abt 1861/1863 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Bienville Ph., LA 1870 (Ward 5, p 102). Age 9 b LA.
Natchitoches Ph., LA 1880 (ed 82, sh 26). Age 17 b LA.
2 - Viola BARRON
Born - Abt 1863 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Bienville Ph., LA 1870 (Ward 5, p 102). Age 7 b LA.
2 - Martha BARRON
Born - Abt 1864 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Bienville Ph., LA 1870 (Ward 5, p 102). Age 6 b LA.
Natchitoches Ph., LA 1880 (ed 82, sh 26). Age 16 b LA.
2 - Leonard H. BARRON
Born - Mar 1866 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Bienville Ph., LA 1870 (Ward 5, p 102). Age 4 b LA.
Natchitoches Par., LA 1880 (Ward 2, ed 32, sh 26). Age 15 b LA.
Comal Co., TX 1900 (Prct 4, ed 14, sh 2). Age 34 b Mar 1866 LA, teacher.
Bexar Co., TX 1910 (San Antonio, ed 12, sh 1). Age 44 b LA, teacher.
sp- Lydia H. ?
Born - Aug 1871 TX
Mar. - Abt 1895
Note - !CENSUS:
Comal Co., TX 1900 (Prct 4, ed 14, sh 2). Age 28 b Aug 1871 TX.
Bexar Co., TX 1910 (San Antonio, ed 12, sh 1). Age 38 b TX.
!NAME: Middle initial may have been M.
!MARRIAGE: On 1900 census said married 5 years, on 1910 said married 16 years.
3 - Milton BARRON
Born - Jul 1896 TX
Note - !CENSUS:
Comal Co., TX 1900 (Prct 4, ed 14, sh 2). Age 3 b Jul 1896 TX.
Bexar Co., TX 1910 (San Antonio, ed 12, sh 1). Age 13 b TX.
2 - Beulah Sallie BARRON
Born - Abt 1867/1868 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Bienville Ph., LA 1870 (Ward 5, p 102). Age 3 b LA.
Natchitoches Ph., LA 1880 (ed 82, sh 26). Age 12 b LA.
2 - Nekaah BARRON
Born - Abt 1870 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Natchitoches Ph., LA 1880 (ed 82, sh 26). Age 10 b LA.
2 - Maggie BARRON
Born - Abt 1873 Bienville Par., LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Natchitoches Ph., LA 1880 (ed 82, sh 26). Age 7 b LA.
2 - Benjamin BARRON
Born - Abt 1875 Natchitoches Par, LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Natchitoches Ph., LA 1880 (ed 82, sh 26). Age 5 b LA.
2 - John Bunyan BARRON
Born - Abt 1876 Natchitoches Par, LA
Note - !CENSUS:
Natchitoches Ph., LA 1880 (ed 82, sh 26). Age 4 b LA.
Date: 3/5/2000 3:29:03 PM Central Standard Time
From: KirkWB
To: JBarron933
John, I just found an interesting entry in the FamilySearch website that lists a John Barron in Northumberland, England abt 1700 who was married to Isabell Tweedle in 1725. This point is curious since another John Barron married a Sarah Tweedel in Hardin Co. KY in the early 1800's. So far the origination of John Barron who married Sarah Tweedel remains to be established. My question is does anyone have any additional information or insight into John Barron -Isabell Tweedle family? Could John Barron and Isabell Tweedle be ancestors or connected to the John Barron who married Sarah Tweedel?
Thanks Kirk Barron
Date: 3/6/2000 9:02:52 AM Central Standard Time
From: tvpal@vvm.com (Theron Palmer)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
john,
The reunion of descendants of THOMAS HUDSON BARRON will be March 11 and 12 (Saturday and Sunday)at Waco, centering around the area of Ft Fisher/Texas Ranger Hall of Fame. On Saturday, the central atrium of The Clarion Inn will be rented for the group, from 10AM to 10PM. Lunch will be served on Saturday. Other motels nearby include the Lexington Hotel Suites, The Best Western Old Main, The Hilton, and the Courtyard Marriott. Some will arrive on Friday. The event will extend until everyone leaves on Sunday. Anyone who is a descendent of any child of Thomas Hudson Barron by either of his two wives, Elizabeth Carnall and Mary Jane Shelton is encouraged to attend and meet relatives they may never have known they had.
Theron
Date: 3/6/2000
To: tvpal@vvm.com
Thanks, Theron. I passed your message on to the group. You may pick up a few more attendees. I know a couple live in the Waco area who work on different Barron lines, however.
By the way, I have stumbled across a couple of references in the past several weeks to Patrick Carnall in NC. I think this is Elizabeth's father or grandfather. Have you looked into her background?
I am sending you the link to my web page as we discussed. If you will click (or double click) on the following it will take you there: John Barron's Home Page . Thanks for all your good work and I appreciate the invite.
John
Date: 3/8/2000 9:49:38 PM Central Standard Time
From: LeAnneGoudeau@msn.com (LeAnneGoudeau)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
I fumbled with this for a while. I was wondering what you meant by "for which will probably get you only back to Agesilus Barron. His father may have been the Samuel that you show, but the other Samuel belongs the "Capt" William Barron line which did not actually come from Ireland but instead to Craven Co., NC." Could you help me?
LeAnne
----- Original Message -----
From: <JBarron933@aol.com>
To: <LeAnneGoudeau@msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 8:32 PM
Subject: Barron research
> LeAnne, I believe that you have mixed up two separate Barron line in the
> ancestor list that you submitted to the BARRON Rootsweb list. I suggest that
> you examine your sources with a very critical eye and keep only those that
> you have direct evidence for which will probably get you only back to
> Agesilus Barron. His father may have been the Samuel that you show, but the
> other Samuel belongs the "Capt" William Barron line which did not actually
> come from Ireland but instead to Craven Co., NC.
>
> John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 3/10/2000 5:40:33 PM Central Standard Time
From: lbarron@tsixroads.com (lbarron)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
Thanks for the information you send re: B. Britton Barron. I don't think this is the same person I am looking for, the birth and death dates do not correspond. His name could be Barneby Britton or Britton Barneby, I'm not sure which one is correct. Thanks again for the information.
Date: 3/10/2000
To: lbarron@tsixroads.com
Larry, I didn't mean that the descendant chart was for the same Britton Barron: there were two from Lawrence Co., AL. Yours was probably an uncle to the one that came to Cherokee Co., TX. The one in Cherokee Co. may be my ancestor. I moderate a group of on-line researchers who study the southern Barron family. I would be pleased to add you to the group. The following is what I have on your Britton Barron.
1 - Britton B. BARRON
Born - Abt 1795 NC
Note - !CENSUS:
Sumpter Co., AL 1840 (p 152). H/h 100001-11001, age (30-39).
Tishomingo Co., MS 1850 (p 124). Age 55 b NC, farmer.
Tishomingo Co., MS 1860 (Hickory Plains, p 316). Age 69 b GA, farmer.
!RESIDENCES: Georgia DAR, Vol 3, p 248. As a single man he received 1 draw in
the 1821 land lottery. He lived in Elbert Co. in Capt Tate's Dist. Draw was
for land in Dooly, Houston, Monroe, Henry & Fayette Co.
sp- Rebecca WRIGHT
Mar. - 24 Jul 1829 Lawrence Co., AL
Note - !MARRIAGE: Graham. 1967. Mar Lic Lawrence Co AL. DAR Mag p 272.
sp- Jane Lavinia MCCAIN
Born - Abt 1813 TN
Mar. - 20 Feb 1834 Lawrence Co., AL
Note - !CENSUS:
Tishomingo Co., MS 1850 (p 124). Age 37 b TN.
Tishomingo Co., MS 1860 (Hickory Plains, p 316). Age 45 b TN.
!MARRIAGE: Graham. 1967. Mar Lic Lawrence Co AL. DAR Mag p 272.
2 - Mary Anna BARRON
Born - Abt 1834 Lawrence Co., AL
Note - !CENSUS:
Simpson Co., MS 1860 (p 155). Age 25 b AL.
!MARRIAGE: On 1860 census listed in father's h/h as Mary Brown.
sp- BROWN
2 - Sarah Jane BARRON
Born - Abt 1835 AL
Note - !CENSUS:
Tishomingo Co., MS 1850 (p 124). Age 15 b AL.
!MARRIAGE: LDS microfishe rec for MS
sp- John Wesley TAYLOR
Mar. - 26 Aug 1852 Tishomingo Co., MS
2 - William W. BARRON
Born - Abt 1842 AL
Note - !CENSUS:
Tishomingo Co., MS 1850 (p 124). Age 8 b AL.
Tishomingo Co., MS 1860 (Hickory Plains, p 316). Age 21 b AL.
sp- Aminda STACY
Born - Abt 1848 AL
Mar. - 22 Apr 1865 Itawamba Co., MS
Note - !CENSUS:
Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 31).
!MARRIAGE: Cruber. 1993. Marriage Records of Itawamba Co., MS. p 159.
3 - Parthene BARRON
Born - Abt 1866 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - b - Census Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 31).
3 - William M. B. BARRON
Born - Abt 1868 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - b - Census Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 31).
3 - John M. BARRON
Born - Abt 1872 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - b - Census Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 31).
3 - Arminda C. BARRON
Born - Abt 1874 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - b - Census Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 31).
3 - James N. BARRON
Born - Abt 1876 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - b - Census Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 31).
2 - David M. BARRON
Born - Abt 1844 MS
Note - !CENSUS:
Tishomingo Co., MS 1850 (p 124). Age 6 b AL.
Tishomingo Co., MS 1860 (Hickory Plains, p 316). Age 16 b AL.
2 - Thomas M. BARRON
Born - 16 Mar 1845 Tishomingo Co., MS
Died - 25 Mar 1920 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - !CENSUS:
Tishomingo Co., MS 1850 (p 124). Age 4 b AL.
Tishomingo Co., MS 1860 (Hickory Plains, p 316). Age 14 b MS.
Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 37). Age 33 b MS, laborer.
!BIRTH-DEATH-BURIAL: Gurney. 1981. Cemeteries of Prentiss Co., MS.
sp- Fannie E. ?
Born - Abt 1859 GA
Mar. - Abt 1865 MS
Note - !CENSUS:
Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 37). Age 21 b GA.
!MARRIAGE: On 1880 census oldest child age 14 b MS.
3 - Sarah BARRON
Born - Abt 1866 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - !CENSUS:
Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 37). Age 14 b MS.
3 - William T. BARRON
Born - Abt 1872 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - !CENSUS:
Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 37). Age 8 b MS.
2 - Robert B. BARRON
Born - Abt 1848 Tishomingo Co., MS
Note - !CENSUS:
Tishomingo Co., MS 1850 (p 124). Age 2 b MS.
Tishomingo Co., MS 1860 (Hickory Plains, p 316). Age 12 b MS.
Tishomingo Co., MS 1870 (# 30). Age 21 b MS, farmer.
2 - Charles C. BARRON
Born - 17 Jun 1853 Tishomingo Co., MS
Died - 25 Dec 1938 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - !CENSUS:
Tishomingo Co., MS 1850 (p 124). Age 4/12 b MS.
Tishomingo Co., MS 1860 (p 316). Age 7 b MS.
!BIRTH-DEATH-BURIAL: Gurney. 1981. Cemeteries of Prentiss Co., MS.
sp- Parthene J. ?
Born - 12 Jul 1850 MS
Mar. - Bef 1874 Prentiss Co., MS
Died - 9 May 1910 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - !CENSUS:
Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 36).
!BIRTH-DEATH-BURIAL: Gurney. 1981. Cemeteries of Prentiss Co., MS.
3 - Weslie C. BARRON
Born - 25 Sep 1874 Prentiss Co., MS
Died - 15 Nov 1877 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - b - Gurney. 1981. Cemeteries of Prentiss Co., MS.
d - Gurney, above.
3 - Sarah E. J. BARRON
Born - Abt 1877 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - b - Census Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 36).
3 - William T. BARRON
Born - Dec 1879 Prentiss Co., MS
Note - b - Census Prentiss Co., MS 1880 (ed 173, sh 36).
Date: 3/11/2000 4:27:46 PM Central Standard Time
From: cwsimmons@earthlink.net (Alan)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
I am a descendant of Barnabas Barron who married Polly Dooly. Although I am descendant from Sanford Barron who was from Barnabas' second marriage to Millie McMullan.
I am looking for information concerning Barnabas. Any you could supply would be greatly appreciated. I have some that I would be more than happy to share.
Do you attend the Barnabas Barron Family reunions held in Alabama each August?
Alan Simmons
Date: 3/11/2000
To: LeAnneGoudeau@msn.com
LeAnne, my point was that while many have speculated that Agesilus, Davis, & Edmund were sons of Samuel Barron to my knowledge there is no direct evidence to support this conclusion. And you should be cautious before putting this out on a public forum as fact without such a caveat.
John
Date: 3/12/2000 11:46:04 AM Central Standard Time
From: cwsimmons@earthlink.net (Alan)
Reply-to: cwsimmons@earthlink.net (Alan)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Dear Sir:
I am Alan Simmons from Huntsville, Alabama. My maternal Grandmother was Fannie Estel (Stella) Barron Stilwell. Her father was Lee Wofford Barron; whose father was Sanford Barron; whose father was Barnabas Barron.
In an e-mail I received yesterday from Donna Sarchet, she suggested that I contact you to be included in the Barron Family Mailing List.
I do not know what all of you have, but I have a copy of the Barnabas Barron Descendants Book, and have the Doolys back to around 1720. Although my current understanding is that I am not a descendant of Mary Polly Dooly, but Barnabas' second wife Millie McMullan.
I also am a long time attendant of the annual Barron Family Reunion in Fort Payne, Alabama. Although I will admit to not knowing many of the attendees.
I do not know if I could offer anything that you have not already found, but I would like to be included in the Mailing List.
Thanks, Alan Simmons
Date: 3/12/2000 7:39:07 PM Central Standard Time
From: Rtr5998
To: JBarron933
Dear John:
Thank you for the e-mail. I need to correct my records. Did Capt. William Barron exist? Did the live in Warren Co. Ga.? The information I have came from my Great Grandmothers line. She was Nancy Ann Barron. Is the line good back through to Capt. Barron? She was the daughter of Joseph Barron...William Barron Jr. and Capt. William Barron. I never could get the DAR to answer my letters although they had assigned the Capt. a DAR number. Is the Ireland data correct? Thank You. Kindest regards.
Sincerely, Tony Rogers
Date: 3/13/2000
To: Rtr5998
Tony, I will route your message to the Barron Circle for comments from the experts such as Donna Sarchet and Leon Johnson. I think the current thinking is that the Wm. Barron husband of Prudence Davis died in Craven Co., NC, during the Rev. War and never lived in Georgia. Although there were men in the service by that name, he is not thought to be one of them and certainly was not an officer. The family had been in the tidewater country of VA-NC for several generations and probably were of English origin.
I appreciate your willingness to consider alternate research findings even if it were to mean losing such an admirable ancestor as depicted in the "Capt" Wm. legend. Some folks wouldn't consider do so and hang on to the story no matter what. I would be proud to have you as a member of our research group.
John Barron
Date: 3/13/2000 7:15:23 PM Central Standard Time
From: tbarron@midsouth.rr.com (Terry Barron)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Recently, I heard that you had compiled a great deal of information on the Barron family and also had a newsletter that I may be able to subscribe to. The Barron family I am researching has reached a dead-end in Cave Spring, GA (Floyd County) with:
Rufus B. (Barney) Barron,
Born in Georgia, about 1851
Married Louvisa C. Wilkerson, January 21, 1872 in Cave Spring, GA
Known children: Luther Barto (b. 10/26/1872 my great-grandfather), Lucus E. (1875), Mary E. (1878), Jesse H. (1879)--all born in Cave Spring (Floyd County) Georgia.
They later moved to the Birmingham area and are listed in the 1910 Census of Blount County Alabama.
Any help with Rufus Barney's parents would be greatly appreciated.
Terry Barron
Date: 3/13/2000 9:24:45 PM Central Standard Time
From: sarchet@texasonline.net (Donna Sarchet)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Does anyone know who this William Barron and Thomas Barron are? I'm wondering if they are part of the group who were in York Co., SC. I say that because old Tryon Co., NC was part of the NC/SC border dispute area--as was York Co., SC.
From the publication _Deed Abstracts of Tryon, Lincoln and Rutherford Counties N. C. 1769-1786:
Page 2
pp 15-16: 25 Jan 1768, William Glover Bishop of Mecklenberg Co., planter to William Barron of same cooper (english pound sign) 20 NC money ... 100A including the easternmost branch of Turkey Creek ...William Glover Bishop (SEAL) Lucy Glover Bishop (X). Wit: Thomas Barron, John Glover, Rec Apr term 1769
Donna Sarchet
Date: 3/14/2000
To: sarchet@texasonline.net
Donna, I haven't seen reference to the above William before, but I think the Thomas Barron was the one who married a Martin girl. He (or his sons) may have come to Lawrence Co., AL by 1820s after being in Tennessee. I base this on the continued association with Martins.
John
Date: 3/14/2000 4:40:08 PM Central Standard Time
From: DRREESE66
To: JBarron933
Recognition should be made that in 1768, this William Barron was living in Mecklenburg Co NC. Since both he and Bishop lived there, it is reasonable to assume that as a witness, Thomas lived there. I believe the signers of the Mecklenburg Declaration of Independence in 1775 are known and listed somewhere. It would be interesting to see if William or Thomas signed that document. Dave Reese
Comment: I read all your forwards. I have not inputed much because I have nothing to add. My two lines branch off quickly because I descend from a daughter and a granddaughter of William Barron/Prudence Davis. My main interest is finding out more about him/his ancestors.
Date: 3/14/2000 5:01:54 PM Central Standard Time
From: sarchet@texasonline.net (Donna Sarchet)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hi, John--
I recently came in contact with an Alan Simmons who is researching the Barnabas Barron of Hart Co., GA. Interestingly, he has some type of family notebook/biographies that mentions two wives of this Barnabas. I've suggested he contact you and post to the list.
I'm also sending you my latest update of my Smith/Barron summary. I would like to eventually have it on your web page if your offer is still open. However, I'm thinking that creating a new Barron summary (ch. of Prudence Barron) as opposed to presenting it from the Smith angle.
On the version I've sent you, I've incorporated much more material on William Barron (m. Martha Smith) and on his sister [Prudence, Jr.?] Barron (m. John Smith).
One or two small things I might mention: Regarding your comments on Thomas Barron being associated with the Martin family, perhaps coincidently, William and Martha (Smith) Barron's oldest son, James S. Barron, was married to a Sarah Martin.
Also, William and Martha (Smith) Barron named their second oldest son, Thomas Barron. William's brothers use the Thomas given name as well. There is, of course, the Thomas Barron who was in Wilkes Co., GA, by 1785 (the part of Wilkes that became Elbert Co.)--who was the only Barron in that county besides Prudence.
As for our most current projects, Vicki Kruschwitz and I are trying to tackle the Hancock Co., GA records to try to sort out the three Samuel Barrons and two John Barrons who appear there.
Thanks again--Donna
Date: 3/14/2000 7:21:15 PM Central Standard Time
From: lbarron@tsixroads.com (lbarron)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, thank you very much for the information on Britton B. Barron. This was the one I was looking for, as we had a lot of the same information gathered from older family members.
Thanks again, Larry Barron
Date: 3/15/2000 10:55:35 AM Central Standard Time
From: joechandler@yahoo.com (Joe Chandler)
I am Joseph Barron Chandler, Jr., a descendant of WILLIAM BARRON, son of ARCHIBALD and ELIZABETH (INGRAM) BARRON of York County, SC, m. in 1798 at age 26, so was b. 1772. There are a number of early grants/patents in Mecklenburg books that were in upper SC.
I am a Tar Heel (currently residing in Washington, DC) and I am certain there is no BARRON on the Mecklenburg Declaration; I would have found it long ago and remembered it.
If you are connected, or think you may be connected to, this WILLIAM BARRON, you are welcome to write to me directly at.
JC/DC
Date: 3/15/2000 10:58:22 AM Central Standard Time
From: joechandler@yahoo.com (Joe Chandler)
Dr. Archibald Ingram Barron - grandson of immigrants Archibald and Elizaeth (Ingram) Barron of York County, SC - was my 3g/gf. If anyone wants to discuss this family, contact me at.
Joseph Barron Chandler, Jr.
Washington, DC
Date: 3/15/2000 9:15:18 PM Central Standard Time
From: marylove@tyler.net (Mary Love Berryman)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
John
I just recently became the Smith County Rep for the East Texas Genealogical Society Quarterly - East Texas Family Records. I am also the County Coordinator for Smith County TXGenWeb Project.
Your article James H. Barron, Son of Caleb was given to me with several other items that might possibly be used for the ETFR. If we can't use it in the Quarterly, would you give your permission to put it on the web? Our space is limited in the Quarterly but we have unlimited space on the web.
The article is very interesting to me. You certainly did a good job on your documentation. I saw Pat Childress at the Smith County Archives today and told him about the article. I have given him your email address and I imagine he will be in touch with your shortly.
I've lived in Tyler all my life so have known quite a few of the Barrons - don't know that they were kin to these folks or not.
Will look forward to hearing from you.
Mary Love Berryman
Date: 3/15/2000 9:45:31 PM Central Standard Time
From: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
John,
I was given your e-mail address by Mary Love Berryman at the Smith County Historical Society. I work with Mary on various web projects. She mentioned to me that you had an article on James H. Barron, son of Caleb. I have been doing a good deal of research on this family, as the Caleb Barron mentioned above is my 3rd great grandfather. His daughter Jemima married into the Childress family back in 1849, and we've been in and around Smith County ever since then.
Several years ago (1963) a Mrs. Emma Frazier wrote that "three Barron boys" were hung in West Texas for horse thievery. Mary suggested that your article may offer evidence of that happening. I'd be curious to know the "rest of the story."
Please send me whatever you have regarding this family and I'd be pleased to do the same.
Thanks and Regards,
Pat Childress
Sugar Land, Texas
Date: 3/16/2000 11:09:57 AM Central Standard Time
From: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
Reply-to: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
Great story (very well written and documented)! I enjoyed the read. Is it O.K. if I extract some of the verbiage and put into my Family Tree Maker files? I'll be happy to send you a Word document Genealogy Report on the Barron information that I have. I'm sure that most of it is repetitious to your data, but you never know.
I got a lot of it from a distant cousin, who originally received it from a Patrick Harrison in the form of a Barron document. The first Barron cited was a Robert Barron, born in ca. 1617 in the British Isles.
I suppose the proven line, from my perspective, is the James Barron and wife Jemima, who are buried at Talking Rock, Georgia, near Atlanta. I went up to visit their grave site during a trip to Atlanta last year (unfortunately, the property owners on whose land the graves are situated weren't at home, so I didn't get to see the actual graves). James was a Revolutionary War veteran.
Please do put my on your list, as I would like very much to keep up to date on the Barron research.
By the way, if you have a chance to visit the Smith County Genealogical web page, review the old photos at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsmith/Images/Childress/Patspics.html There are actually several pages of images, and I suspect that more than a few may well be Barrons, but I have no way of knowing unless someone in your group has a similar old photo.
Thanks Again,
and Best Regards,
Pat Childress
Date: 3/16/2000 12:38:56 PM Central Standard Time
From: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
Reply-to: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
To: Rbghill47@aol.com
CC: jbarron933@aol.com
Hi, Beth,
It's been over five years since I did the first genealogical book. In that book, I had only about 300 individuals pegged. Since then, I've been really digging deep, and now have nearly 3,000 individuals. The largest portions are the families of Barron (several hundred); Childress; Overton; Thornton, etc. I hope to have the next book out within a year or so.
I'm sending this note to John Barron, since he is the individual who has the details on the Barron "thievery." As it turns out, the thief was my gggranduncle and a brother to my 2nd great grandmother, Jemima Barron. Perhaps John will share his details with you.
Regarding the picture you mention, PLEASE do try to dig it out of the closet. I'm sure John will agree that it would add a great deal of "color" to whatever stories might come out.
And please keep me informed of whatever else you find.
Thanks and Best Regards,
Pat Childress
Sugar Land, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: <Rbghill47@aol.com>
To: <patchildress@prodigy.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Barron Research
> Pat, I rec'd your message thru the Barron Circle of researchers and read,
> with interest the sentence about the hanging of the Barron men - I have
> researched my Barron ancestry for more than 30 years and from the beginning,
> I heard, from an uncle and also my grandmother about a "hanging" - no details
> ever furnished, but just "talk of a hanging" - If you do find out any
> details, I would be very interested in them. I have been attempting to obtain
> a photo that I was told existed in my cousin's possessions [inherited from
> his father - a Barron] of several men standing around a hanged man - this
> cousin is not too cooperative, so I am going to go after his daughter in
> hopes that she will dig through the old photos for me in search of the photo.
> Makes me more than ever determined to find the thing IF it exists!
> Please keep me in mind if you hear any details thereof, and if I do find that
> photo - I will certainly let you know.
> I read you publishing on the Childress/Barron Family at the Clayton Library
> when I lived in Houston several years back - good work. I sure miss the
> Clayton Library. I now live in Los Angeles and do research when I am not
> working! One of these days when I retire I can devote my time to scouring the
> country in search of those that have eluded me!
>
> Thanks -
> Yours "In the hunt"
> Beth Hillis
Date: 3/16/2000
To: juliann@hpnc.com
Hi Juliann, even though I'm from Corsicana I had to get out my map to find Covington. Guess I've never been through there - at least not lately.
You asked about what relation I was to your line. As far as I know, we are not related. I first pick up my ggrandfather, John W. Barron, in 1874 in Navarro Co. He was supposedly born in Louisiana in 1851 probably the son of Charles Barron of Jackson Parish but we've never been able to find a convincing link.
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 3/16/2000
To: Rbghill47@aol.com
Beth, I didn't realize you had heard about this story and was interested. I submitted it for publishing, but don't know for sure if it will be. I'm attaching a draft here with the admonition to "keep it under your hat" till I hear from sure about the quarterly.
Let me know what you think.
John
Date: 3/17/2000 11:58:14 PM Central Standard Time
From: YukiYama2
To: JBarron933
John,
Thanks for all your hard work on the web page. And because of it I found my g-g-grandmother, Sabra Bryant Barron, age 42. I think her husband my g-g-grandfather, Joseph M. Barron, was dead at this time as the head of the household listed on this census, Joseph M. was only 28 yrs. old. The other children are listed with ages close enough to be his siblings. I had only known the first names of the parents and only 1 child, Nancy Elizabeth Barron, my greatgrandmother. She was born and died in Barbour Co., AL and I found this family on the 1860 census in Pike Co., (Monticella) AL. I had never thought to look there. If there is anyone on this list who has any knowledge of this family I would appreciate some help. The children were listed in 1860 : Sarah, 22; John W., 15; Elizabeth, 13; Martha, 14; James, 9; Randolph, 5; and B. Lafayette, 1.
Thanks again, Carol Forney
Date: 3/18/2000
To: patchildress@prodigy.net
In a message dated 3/16/2000 9:25:50 PM Central Standard Time, patchildress@prodigy.net writes:
<< I'll be happy to reformat it to a more legible final form. >>
Pat, I was thinking that you were a descendant of Caleb Barron, but I see now it was Joseph and Hannah. That might be the best place to start especially since there is a feud starting concerning whether Joseph was actually a son of James and Jemima. I personally never thought so, but Patrick Harrison fervently argues this case.
As to formatting, I would prefer a modified register chart with documentation and sources included instead of a descendant chart. I used to favor the latter, but now find them very hard to follow and they never include documentation.
Does this sound ok to you?
John
Date: 3/19/2000 12:18:54 AM Central Standard Time
From: jsims512@earthlink.net (Virginia Kemp)
To: Juliann@hpnc.com
CC: jbarron933@aol.com
Dear Juliann,
I am researching the Barron family on behalf of my children Virginia (Ginger) McLaurin Kemp and Douglas Merritte McLaurin, Jr. They both live in Austin, TX and I am visiting them from New Mexico now. Their grandmother was Jack Virginia Barron daughter of Merritte Sedberry Barron. If you live in Covington I am sure you have met Ginger and Merritte. I have probably met you, too have mostly been there for funerals.
Anyway, I am especially interested in finding out more about the name "Merritte" I wonder if it could have been the sir name of William Barron's first wife. I do not believe the Mary who was listed as the wife of William would have been old enough to have been the mother of his children. I also wonder if the M. in the names of Thomas M. Barron (your gg-grandfather) and Thomas M. Barron, Jr. (the brother of your g-grandmother, Elizabeth Rebecca Barron) could possibly stand for "Merritte".
Thanks to the information from John Barron we now know that Thomas M Barron, Jr. was the father of Merritte Sedberry Barron. I wonder if you know anything about James J. Gathings, Jr., the father of Caroline V Gathings who married Thomas M Barron, Jr.? My son has a book about the Gathings but it kind of skips J.J. Gathings, Jr., his wife Annette Sedberry and their daughters. I believe he was fairly young when he died. I'm am not really answering any of your questions but asking you a lot. If I can answer or find answers to any of your questions please let me know. Margaret Mehlhop McLaurin Reid
Virginia Kemp
Date: 3/19/2000 10:29:34 PM Central Standard Time
From: bhmoses@hotmail.com (Belinda Moses)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hello
Thanks for responding and sending me your web site link. I don't have a lot of names. My maternal grandmother was a Barron.I don't know her father's first name at this time. Her mother was a Lewis (Docie or Docia). My grandmother's name was Dorris Barron. She died about 11 years ago. She had a brother who preceded her in death (Jim Barron). Jim Barron had a daughter named Gayle Barron. I don't know much more than this. My grandmother used to speak of living on a large plantation. I'm not sure of where it was. She lived in Grant Parish Louisiana for years before her death.
If you have any information with these names, please share it with me. My uncle and I are researching on the ancestry of his parents (my mother's parents).
Sincerely, B.Moses
>From: JBarron933@aol.com
>To: bhmoses@hotmail.com
>Subject: Barron Research
>Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:20:49 EST
>
>Belinda, I read with interest your message on the genforum asking for help.
>As a critique of it I must say that you need to provide more information on
>who it is you are looking for as well as when and where they lived or else
>no one can help you. There are a dozen or so Barron lines in MS and LA to
>choose from.
>
>Please check my web page for information on southern Barron families.
>
>John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 3/24/2000 7:06:43 PM Central Standard Time
From: jguest@alltel.net (jguest)
To: JBarron933@aol.com (John Barron)
CC: tbatton@midsouth.rr.com (Terry Barron), louism@knology.net (Brenda Morrison), JeffreyAPSmith@msn.com (Gale Sanders Brown), anncholl@hotmail.com (Ann Clark Holloman)
Dear Barron Cousins,
It has been determined that three BARRON families moved from Elbert County, GA to Floyd Co., GA between 1865 and 1870. These were the families of three sons of Barnabas BARRON of (Elbert and) Hart County, GA: WILLIAM D. BARRON, CALVIN HAMILTON BARRON, and RUFUS F. BARRON.
{NOTE: According to "Pioneers of Hart County, GA," by Harold Travis Parker, Barnabas was married to Polly DOOLEY. There is a marriage record for them in Elbert County, GA (Bk. L-16, p. 476) for 17 February 1820. There is a later marriage record for Barnabas and Mrs. Lucy Crawford (Marriage Book A, p. 220) in Elbert for 29 December 1847. Present-day descendants of Barnabas say there was another wife, Millie McMullan. Known children of Barnabas include: James Barron, William D. Barron, Rufus F. Barron, C. Hamilton Barron, Sanford C. Barron, Elizabeth Barron (Gaines), and Frances Barron (Shiftlet).}
WILLIAM D. BARRON (b. about 1821) m. Elizabeth HILLEY (b. about 1823) in Elbert County, GA on 16 Jan 1841. They were on the 1850 Elbert Co., GA census (Family 555, p. 400B). In 1860, they were on the Hart Co.,GA census, (Family 709, p. 479). William and Elizabeth Barron had nine or ten children. (The information in parentheses was provided by a great-granddaughter of Mary Jane Barron Reed.)
(1) Willis Newton BARRON, b. about 1841. d. 8 Apr 1862 CSA
(2) Frances E. BARRON, b. about 1843, m. James Monroe SANDERS. Their children were William E. Sanders, Julia Elizabeth Sanders, Polly Sanders, Amie Sanders, Ellen Sanders, Berry B. Sanders, and Milly O. Sanders. This information provided by a great-granddaughter of Ellen.
(3) Letty Ann Barron, b. about 1843, (m. _______Dutton, no children)
(4) Martha P. Barron, b. about 1848, (m. Bud Skelton, no children)
(5)A daughter, P. Barron, b. about 1849, who was on the 1850 Census but not on the 1860 Census.
(6) Mary Catherine Barron, b. about 1850 (m. Billy Dollar). A marriage record for William J. Dollar and Mary C. Barron on 16 May 1872 has been found in the Floyd Co., GA Marriage Book B, p. 109. They were on the 1880 Floyd Co., GA Census, with a son Willis A. Dollar, 7; a son James A. Dollar, 5; and a daughter Eva I./J., age 2.
(7) Wm. Barnabas Barron, b. about 1853
(8) Leonidas Barron, b. about 1855 m. Lou Chrisler 17 Feb 1884, Hart Co., GA. (They had several children.)
(9) Mary Jane Barron, b. about 1857, (m. William Benjamin Blanton Reed. They are buried in Union Baptist Church Cemetery in Madison County, GA. William's tombstone reads "1861-1933;" Mary Jane's reads "1858-1940." They had five children: Ola, Anita (died at 13 mo.), Jessie, Talmadge, and Gifford.)
(10) Lucy U. Barron, b. about 1859. Probably died before 1865. William D. Barron, the father, was killed while serving in the Confederate Army. Elizabeth Hilley Barron was dead by 1865, leaving these children orphaned. The oldest, Willis Newton Barron, was also dead (killed by a falling tree during the war). The youngest was probably dead, because her name does not appear on a petition filed on 10 Feb 1865 by Calvin H. Barron, Trustee of William's estate. Calvin petitioned in Hart County, GA to be "temporary guardian of Letty Ann, Martha, Catherine, Barnabas, Leonidas, and Jane Barron, as their mother was also deceased."
(NOTE: Although the parents didn't move to Floyd Co., the children probably did. On the 1870 GA Census Index, on the same page as Calvin H. Barron - p.282 - was Catherine Barron, age 20.)
CALVIN HAMILTON BARRON (b. about 1824) m. Priscilla Williamson (b. about 1832). In 1850, they were on the Elbert Co., GA Census (Family 865 p422A-B). In 1860, they were on the Hart Co., GA Census (Family 707, p. 479). In 1870, they were on the Floyd Co., GA Census.
They had at least six children:
(1) Amanda Barron, b. about 1846
(2) Catharine Barron, b. about 1848
(3) Barnabas Barron, b. about 1851
(4) James Barron, b. about 1854
(5) Samantha Barron, b. about 1859
(6) William Bedford Barron, b.5 March 1861 (This info from Dean Milton Thompson)
RUFUS F. BARRON, (b. about 1823) m. Letty Hilley (b. about 1827) in Elbert Co., GA on 13 June 1841 (Bk.A, p. 114). According to the 1860 Census of Hart County, GA (Family 700, p. 478), they had one child, Mary J., age 8 in 1860. They are found on the 1870 Census of Floyd County, GA, page 286, where Mary Jane is 18. Also in their household in 1870 are: Leonidas, age 15, and Jane (age illegible). These last two children are probably William D. Barron's.(NOTE: These families probably did not move "from Elbert to Hart." In 1853, Hart County was formed from part of Elbert County, GA)
(NOTE: Both William D. Barron and Calvin H. Barron had a son named Barnabas. William D. Barron's son was named "William Barnabas." Calvin H. Barron's son was only "Barnabas" in the Hart Co. Census. It is possible that he is the Rufus B. Barron, b. 1851, who married Louvisa C. Wilkerson in Floyd County, GA on 21 January 1872.) (NOTE: Both William D. Barron and Calvin H. Barron had a daughter named Catherine. William D. Barron's daughter was named "Mary Catherine." Calvin's daughter was only "Catherine" in the Hart Co. Census. ( NOTE: The Marriage Records at the courthouse in Rome, Floyd County, GA have the notation "Rufus Barron (no middle initial)" married "Lettie Hilley" in Elbert County, GA on 22 December 1836.)
The HILLEY family is compiling a book about descendants of Thomas Hilley, Sr., Revolutionary Soldier, and his wife, Mary Walker Bond. The children of Elizabeth Hilley Barron and Letty Hilley Barron are also Hilley descendants, and we wish to include them in our book. If you descend from either William D. Barron or Rufus F. Barron, please contact Nancy Guest at jguest@alltel.net or Ann Holloman at anncholl@hotmail.com We will share information. We have moreinformation about some of the above Barrons, and we have information about their Hilley-Bond-Ballenger-Harding ancestors.
Date: 3/25/2000 2:35:50 PM Central Standard Time
From: Bjlub
To: JBarron933
In a message dated 3/24/00 10:34:42 AM Central Standard Time, JBarron933 writes:
<< To another subject: I read in your archived letters a note from a "Betty"
who wrote circa 1/15/1998: "...Failed to mention that the Kelleys last month
had a query from two descendants of Caleb Barron, died in Hamilton Co. TX in
1864 and taken back to Smith Co. TX for burial. >>
I awaited overnight to respond to the above e-mail-Subject: Various, to give any Caleb descendants within the Barron Circle to respond to your questions. I will respond to questions presented by Pat Childress.
Pat, you are correct about the Solomon BARRON/Francis "Fannie" COLE marriage as his third marriage. I have a copy of their mariage license taken from Coryell Co. Texas Marriage Book "A" 1854-1865, pages 141 and 142 married 23 March 1865. I am curious about your second question posed in your following statement: "Regarding the COLE surname, I show Solomon Barron's third marriage being to a Francis "Fannie" COLE (answered above), who may be the sister of the infamous COLE brother outlaws of that era. Any information on this?" Pat do you have documented data regarding the COLE brother outlaws of that era? I must tell you my grandfather, George Washington COLE, and his brother, Charlie C. COLE, are "Fannie's" brothers. Any hard data you have about their being outlaws would be enlightening. I have shown two descendants of Charlie C. COLE in BCC, and am quite sure they too will look forward to your response.
May I refer you to Abstracts of the Smith County Probate Records, p. 74. Said Elizabeth (widow?) pet. as adm. gave date and location of death. (Caleb BARRON) taken from John's or Beth's research. Thank your Beth and John for sharing your research with many family researchers.
Attempting to provide an answer to another question you posed from archived e-mails of the Barron Circle. You will find another descendant of Caleb amongst the e-mail addys of the Circle as Carol7438@aol.com. I believe Carol and another relative had exchanged e-mails with the Kelleys in late 1997 or early 1998. Perhaps Carol will respond to your question about that time frame.
Pat, if your note regarding the question of the "COLE outlaws" was taken from Nolan County First One Hundred Years, Sesquicentennial Edition, 1985, page 393, the family data is from the "mug book" section of the Nolan County Book. It is probably unnessary to point out to you, that data is undocumented. The family article was written by one of my BARRON-WETSEL cousins. I will quote the first sentence from the second paragraph of the W.D. WETSEL family story. "In 1887, William David (Will) WETSEL married Miss Charlie BARRON (born 1872, Hamilton County), daughter of early day rancher Sol BARRON and Fannie COLE, orphan sister of the notorious COLE brothers." I consider that a far reach from "notorious" to the use of "outlaws" to describe my ancestors.
Pat, if you have further questions, please feel free to respond to me through the Barron Circle.
I am, cordially
Betty Cole Wienke
Date: 3/26/2000 11:46:18 AM Central Standard Time
From: jguest@alltel.net (jguest)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
CC: anncholl@hotmail.com (Ann Clark Holloman)
Dear John,
We are hoping that we can continue to trace the progress of these two Barron/Hilley families westward. I'll bet they wound up in either MS or TX. Well, actually we are hoping even more that some descendant of either or both of "our" Barron/Hilley families will contact us and share their research!!
I have enjoyed reading your transmissions very much, John -- all Barron descendants owe you a big vote of thanks.
One of our researchers, Ann Holloman (author of "Elbert County, GA Marriages 1805-1913") did find a record of a marriage for "Barnabas Barnes" in Elbert County to a Miss Milly McMullan on 7 August 1834, recorded in Elbert Co., GA Book O p500 and so noted in her book. She checked the ORIGINAL certificate and it is very plainly written as "Barnes." No mention of Barnabas Barron. Was this info about Sanford Barron's mother written in a Bible? I know the "History of Hart Co., GA" says he was sometimes known as "Squire Barnes." Ann would like to have the source for the second marriage so that it could be noted in her records. Milly must have died, for Barnabas did marry Mrs. Lucy Brown Crawford in 1847 and she is his wife in the 1850 census.
Sincerely, Nancy Guest
Date: 3/26/2000
To: jguest@alltel.net
CC: Barron Circle
Nancy, in the descendant chart below is the reference I have for Barnabas' marriage to Polly Dooley (McIntosh. 1968. The Official History of Elbert Co. p 234). It appears to be from a "mug book" but if I remember correctly this one had some marriage records in it also. If this is correct then he must have married 3 times with children by the first two.
John Barron
1 - Barnabas BARRON
Born - 1792/1793 GA
Died - 1864 Hart Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Jackson Co., GA 1820 (p 307). H/h 00001-001.
Jackson Co., GA 1830 (p 312). H/h 1200001-10001 [5 slaves].
Jackson Co., GA 1840 (p 177). H/h 30030001-111001.
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 40). Age 57 b GA, farmer.
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Montenegro, p 31). Age 68 b GA, farmer.
!PARENTS: Williams & Griffin. 1967. Abstracts of Will Book I, Nash Co., NC, p
93. Barnabas Barron was mentioned in will of Thomas Rogers father of Obedience
Rogers who married Thomas Barron. Thomas & Obedience in Jackson Co. with him in
1830 census.
!MILITARY: Stewert. Cherokee Co. [AL] History. p 212. said he was in militia
under Capt Wharton stationed on the frontier of Jackson Co. [GA?].
!DEATH: Hodson. 1969. Query in Gen Helper. p 81.
sp- Polly DOOLEY
Born - 1801/1804 GA
Mar. - 17 Feb 1820 Elbert Co., GA
Died - Bef Dec 1847 Elbert Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Jackson Co., GA 1820 (p 307).
Jackson Co., GA 1830 (p 112).
!MARRIAGE: McIntosh. 1968. The Official History of Elbert Co. p 234.
2 - William D. BARRON
Born - Abt 1821 Jackson Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Hartwell, p 23). Age 40 b GA, farmer.
!BIRTH: Baker. Hist of Hart County. p 272-4.
!MARRIAGE: Maddox & Crawford. 40,000 Geo Mar. p 72.
sp- Elizabeth HILLEY
Born - Abt 1823 GA
Mar. - 16 Jan 1841 Elbert Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Hartwell, p 23). Age 37 b GA.
GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
2 - Rufus F. BARRON (CSA)
Born - Abt 1823 Jackson Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 422). Age 26 b GA, farmer.
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Hartwell, p 92). Age 37 b GA, farmer.
!BIRTH: Baker. Hist of Hart County. p 272-4.
!MARRIAGE: Maddox & Crawford. 40,000 Geo Mar. p 72.
!MILITARY: Henderson. 1960. Roster of Confederate Soldiers of Georgia, vol 4, p
38. Served in Co. A, 9th Tenn Inf.
sp- Lettie HILLEY
Born - Abt 1828 GA
Mar. - 22 Dec 1846 Elbert Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 422). Age 22 b GA.
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Hartwell, p 92). Age 28 b GA.
GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
2 - Calvin Hamilton BARRON
Born - Abt 1824 Hartwell Co., GA
Died - 1910 Centre, AL
Note - Census:
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 422). Age 26 b GA, farmer.
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Hartwell, p 23). Age 36 b GA, farmer.
!FATHER: Baker. Hist of Hart County. p 272-4.
!BIRTH-DEATH: Thompson, Dean Milton (1005 Shadow Run Dr.; Lakeland, FL). 1992.
Pedigree chart. Northeast Alabama Settlers. 31(2):55.
sp- Priscilla WILLIAMSON
Born - Abt 1832 GA
Mar. - Abt 1845 GA
Died - Centre, AL
Note - Census:
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 422). Age 21 b GA.
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Hartwell, p 23). Age 28 b GA.
GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
2 - Elizabeth BARRON
Born - 1826/1830 Jackson Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Census Hart Co., GA 1830.
!BIRTH: Baker. Hist of Hart County. p 272-4.
!MARRIAGE: McIntosh. 1968. The Official Hist of Elbert Co.
sp- James B. GAINES
Mar. - 13 Aug 1844 Elbert Co., GA
2 - Sanford C. BARRON
Born - 22 Sep 1833 Elbert Co., GA
Died - 1912 DeKalb Co., AL
Note - !CENSUS:
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Bowersville, p 116). Age 24 b GA, teacher.
!BIRTH-MARRIAGE: Baker. Hist of Hart County. p 272-4.
!BIRTH-DEATH: Harris, Mrs Ann family group sheet.
sp- Rosee Evaline PHILLIPS
Born - 18 Aug 1840 GA
Mar. - 7 Aug 1856 Elbert Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Bowersville, p 116). Age 21 b GA.
GENERATIONS OMITTED: MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
2 - A. BARRON
Born - Abt 1835 GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 40). Age 15 b GA.
2 - Frances BARRON
Born - Abt 1838 Elbert Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 40). Age 12 b GA.
!BIRTH-MARRIAGE: Baker. Hist of Hart County.
sp- William J. SHIFLET
2 - Thomas P. BARRON
Born - Abt 1838 GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 40). Age 10 b GA.
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Montenegro, p 31). Age 22 b GA.
!RELATIONSHIP: A reference said he was actually a nephew from England.
2 - O. J. BARRON
Born - Abt 1842 GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 40). Age 8 b GA.
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Montenegro, p 31). Age 20 b GA.
!RELATIONSHIP: A reference said he was actually a nephew from England.
2 - James A. BARRON
Born - Abt 1843 Elbert Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 40). Age 5 b GA.
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Montenegro, p 31). Age 17 b GA.
!BIRTH: Baker. Hist of Hart County. p 272-4.
sp- Lucy CRAWFORD
Born - Abt 1795 GA
Mar. - 29 Dec 1847 Elbert Co., GA
Note - !CENSUS:
Elbert Co., GA 1850 (p 40). Age 55 b GA.
Hart Co., GA 1860 (Montenegro, p 31). Age 65 b GA.
Date: 3/27/2000
To: GEO_BCB@shsu.edu
CC: Barron Circle
In a message dated 3/27/2000 12:17:08 PM Central Standard Time, GEO_BCB@shsu.edu writes:
<< In a response to Claude on Feb.7 in the Barron Forum you wrote of the probate of the will of a John Barron 1826 in Lawerence Co. Ala.The time,place,and even the name are close enough to be my gggggfather. Was a James(A) listed as an heir along with David? I enjoy the circle an hope to contribute soon.Cody Barron
>>>>>>>>
Cody, there was no child James listed in the will. The following is what I have in my records: Mary, David, John, Sarah Ann, Nancy, and Amanda.
John
Date: 3/27/2000 12:51:08 PM Central Standard Time
From: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
Reply-to: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
To: Bjlub@aol.com
CC: JBarron933@aol.com (Barron, John)
Betty,
Thanks for the very complete response to my question regarding the reputation of the Cole brothers, with sister Fannie Cole having married Solomon Barron. I'll try to respond to your questions:
I suppose the relationship of Solomon Barron and Caleb Barron is subject to debate, as I noted that John Barron asked that I submit a genealogy register beginning with Caleb Barron, Sr., as opposed to one going further back in time. I must admit that my documentary proof for kinship actually begins only with that generation. As John noted, there is some controversy whether my Caleb Barron, Sr. was a son of James and Jemima Barron of Talking Rock, Georgia.
I took much of the data going backward in time from my Caleb, Sr. from a publication edited by Patrick Harrison, whom I believe also is a member of this Barron circle. With a few minor exceptions, I would defer to Patrick on genealogical matters pertaining to the lineage I show in my files, beginning with Caleb, Sr. and his parentage. That having been said, my files indicate that Solomon Barron is the nephew of my Caleb Barron, Sr., Solomon being the child of Joseph Barron and Hannah McClannahan. In my files, I show Joseph the son of James and Jemima.
Moving forward in time, Caleb Barron, Sr. and his wife Elizabeth Padden (? - I have only one document, copied, which shows her maiden name) had a daughter named Gemima Barron (perhaps a small clue as to the Christian name of Caleb's mother, also a Jemima), who married Obediah Childress, Jr., who is my great, great grandfather. Obediah Childress was born in Alabama and ultimately moved to Smith County, Texas in the town of Omen, originally named Old Canton.
Much of my genealogical "action" takes place in Smith County, Texas.
My records also show Tabitha Childress as Solomon's first wife, and that she was the daughter of Levi Childress and Susannah Montgomery. As an interesting side note, given that Solomon Barron married three times, I found a Tabitha Childress in the 1860 U.S. Census for Choctaw County, Mississippi under a "Mary C. Childress," 60, born in Tennessee. Listed with her are Anna, 34 (AL); TABITHA, 32 spinster (AL); Eli, 20 farmer (AL). I wonder if this Tabitha could possibly be Solomon Barron's ex-wife, but I haven't had time to investigate further.
You could be correct in assuming my thinking of Cole Younger's gang, rather than the Cole brothers. However, I find one of the most interesting aspects of genealogical research has to do with ferreting out rumors. As an example, I had in my files from several years ago the "rumor" that one of the early East Texas Barrons had brothers who were hanged as horse thieves in the mid 1800's. When I recently got back on that track, I found John Barron's very well documented essay that pinpointed the "culprits." Too bad it turned out to be my gguncle and his brother, but it was interesting, nonetheless.
Regarding the various hyperlinks that I may have missed, I only recently became aware of the Barron Circle, so I must confess I don't have much in the way of e-history. Any help you could give me would be appreciated.
Best Regards, Pat Childress
Date: 3/27/2000 8:26:14 PM Central Standard Time
From: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
Reply-to: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
To: WILLIAMSTEXAS@EARTHLINK.NET
CC: JBarron933@aol.com (Barron, John)
Glynda,
I'm afraid I can't help you very much in your search. You mention "Keleb Barron who died in 1864 and was buried in Smith County." I suspect you may be speaking of my Caleb Barron, Sr., who died in January, 1865. I think he may be buried in the Ebenezer Cemetery near Arp, Texas, but I have not located his grave. There is a Caleb Barron buried there, but this is Caleb, Sr.'s grandson, born in 1858, died in 1946. Somewhere on this Circle, I came across a note from a Barron researcher who mentions Caleb Sr. being buried in Smith County, but I've not yet made contact with her.
Regards, Pat Childress
Date: 3/27/2000 11:25:58 PM Central Standard Time
From: Bjlub
To: patchildress@prodigy.net
BCC: JBarron933
Pat, before I prepared to write this *E* to you, I reviewed the probate packet of one James BARRON that died in early 1850s in Cherokee County, GA. I noted Caleb BARRON was not mentioned within the packet. As you said there are questions regarding the parents of Caleb BARRON and any relation of Solomon BARRON to Caleb. This should lay to rest any further questions of the relationship of Solomon to Caleb until we have hard data to establish the relationship. We all want our research to reflect documented data. Agree?
I do accept your apology for speculation without any documented information. Until you have documented data, rather than legendary facts, this should conclude any further discussion.
I will include a hyperlink to the Wm. Beauregard's page which reflects the land records in Winston and Atalla Counties in NE MS. If the hyperlink is not working, may I suggest you pull up the Attala County, MS site and I believe there is a link to send you to Wm.'s page. William T. Beauregard Attala County, MsGenWeb
I will close with a sincere wish your research creates an AGM=Awesome Genealogical Moment.
Best,
Betty Cole Wienke
Bjlub@aol.com
P.S. I do agree with you and have enough documented data to say Solomon is the son of Joseph BARRON/Hannah McCLANAHAN, however, beyond that relationship I have not encountered any earlier lineage of Joseph BARRON.
Date: 3/28/2000 12:33:16 AM Central Standard Time
From: CColoradomtn@cs.com
To: JBarron933
Okay, cousins, let us not forget the other Barron-Childress connections. James Barron, son of Joseph Barron and Hannah McClanahan, grandson of James and Jemima Barron of Talking Rock, Georgia. James is listed on both the 1840 and 1850 Winston Co., MS census. He married Elizabeth Childress, sister of Obadiah Childress, Jr. (They were children of Obadiah Childress, Sr. and Celia Ayers). James and Elizabeth had several children in the 1840's, including my great grandmother Hannah Barron. She was born in 1849 in Winston Co, MS (11 mos. old on the 1850 census). Hannah was the second wife of Lindsey F. Smith. His father, Lindsey W. Smith was born in Elbert Co., Georgia and moved with his neighbor, Blumer White, to Smith Co., Texas in 1852. Lindsey W. bought a large tract of land west of Canton, Smith Co., Texas. There are alot of records about the Smith's of Smith County, Texas. (Take a guess on the last name of most of the folks buried in the Smith Cemetery).
Thanks for letting me share!
Carey Smith
Date: 3/30/2000 11:50:21 AM Central Standard Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
RE: Barron - Miller connection
Don't know if this information will help anyone. I meant to order certified copies of Land Grant Records of Caleb Miller and instead ordered records for Caleb Barron.
This is what happens when you are on overload with Caleb's in more than one family.
These records are for land in WINSTON COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI.
They are as follows: I will give certificate numbers, with dates only.
Certificate No. 39730 - Almond Barron - 20-1-1859 (A name I have not seen)
" " 6331 Caleb Barron 2-1-1841
" " 7930 " " 2-1-1841
" " 7931 " " 2-1-1841
" " 7932 " " 2-1-1841
" " 7932 " " 2-1-1841
" " 12823 " " 2-27-1841
" " 18995 " " 2-27-1841
" " 19152 " " 2-27-1841
" " 19247 " " 2-27-1841
" " 29514 " " 2-27-1841
" " 30004 " " 2-27-1841
" " 30183 " " 2-27-1841
Note: The reason I added the Almond, first I had never heard of him, second he owned a portion of the same land listed on Certificate No. 29514. Conclusion on my part is, he is related to Caleb.
Note: Certificate No. 18.995 - States: To all to whom these Presents shall come, Greeting: Whereas Caleb Barron assignee of Joseph Kyle. In plain English Kyle bought the land from Caleb.
Hope someone can get some help from these.
Pat Colby
Date: 3/30/2000
To: RLCPAC9
In a message dated 3/30/2000 11:50:21 AM Central Standard Time, RLCPAC9 writes:
<< Whereas Caleb Barron assignee of Joseph Kyle. In plain English Kyle bought the land from Caleb. >>
Pat, Almond (or Almon) was a common name in this line. Caleb Barron named a son this and the one shown on the grants was probably his brother.
As to the meaning of assignee, I think it's the reverse of what you said above. Kyle assigned his grant to Barron (for a fee, of course). At least, that's what I always thought it was.
John
Date: 3/30/2000 10:53:20 PM Central Standard Time
From: hamlet@flash.net (Patrick M. Harrison)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
As a response to your comments, Betty: The probate file for James Barron is INCOMPLETE!!! The people in the court house know that and that is the problem we have encountered whenever we try to document the children of James and Jemimah. the file was in several different places and when I visited the office, they said there was no such file until I insisted that they let me look through the loose papers. I found some papers in different files. The early documents in the court house were in a mess and for all we know, there were children other than Caleb. So . . . I wouldn't try to document conclusively or exclude positively on the probate file of James Barron of Cherokee County. You also have to take into account the circumstantial evidence regarding Caleb Barron and his life among the Barron Family. Something else: James Barron died on his land which is WEST of Jasper, Georgia. Talking Rock is Northwest of Jasper on another highway. Does anyone know why we are talking of JAMES BARRON OF TALKING ROCK, GEORGIA, when he did not live or die in that little town????
Cordially, Patrick
Date: 3/31/2000
To: hamlet@flash.net
CC: Barron Circle
Thanks, Patrick. "Proving a negative" (that the probate file is incomplete) is always one of the hardest problems we face in genealogy. Each case is different and it's a judgement call as to whether we've collected enough evidence to make a conclusion and the "jury's" always out till that missing piece is found.
John Barron
Date: 3/31/2000 8:45:49 AM Central Standard Time
From: njyork@flash.net (njyork)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
I have found another Barron in a different line. He is Carl Barron who married Incie Irene Powell, daughter of Joseph Powell. This is the only information I have. Anyone have a Carl Barron?
Jaunice York
Date: 3/31/2000 3:22:14 PM Central Standard Time
From: dd@intellex.com (Ann and Bob Avery)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Ann and Bob Avery
To: yoshi 531@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 1:59 PM
Subject: JOHN BARRON.
Hi,
We are looking for infomation on a John Barron that was staying with family or friends in Muskogee, Oklahoma. in 1934 & maybe 1935. some friends thought he may have gone to Texas from here ( friends were the Dadismans) John would have been in his twenties at that time. would you please mail me back one way or the other,we would love to contact rel. of his. thanks.
Ann Avery
Date: 3/31/2000 4:52:31 PM Central Standard Time
From: hamlet@flash.net (Patrick M. Harrison)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
In regards to this: I have records that Joseph Barron received only $255. - that is according to the probate records that I have. Has anyone ever been able to find another record that says he eventually received the same - around $480 - that all the other children received? If not, we will continue to wonder why????
cordially, Patrick
Date: 3/31/2000 8:41:49 PM Central Standard Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
This is an example of the type of letters I referred to:
4-5-1979
Dear Mrs. Cooper:
I am glad to hear from you. Yes, We Barrons are all related. Shreveport has it's fair share of them and they are all kinfolks.
My father was JAMES LAFAYETTE BARRON - born in Alabama. He was 2 years old when his parents moved to Louisiana. My mother was MARIA TERESA RABORN, whose father owned the Raborn Salt Works in Bienville Parish prior to the Civil War.
My sister, Cloma (not sure of this spelling) and I live on a tree farm - 12 miles west of Jonesboro. When we retired - she was a children's librarian, and I was a history teacher, we took over land our father left us and turned it into a tree farm - 130 Acres. Come to see us. We live on Hwy. 4. Come by way of Ringgold and anyone can tell you where we live!
I am enclosing the name & address of a man who called me just last week to know "just which Barron I am." He said all of his Barron relatives lived in Texas. He is probably closer kin to you than he is to me. Have you ever heard of my great uncle JOHN BARRON who was a Baptist preacher and went to Texas in his youth and married and raised a family there? The Barrons in Pineville, LA are related to us. One has an elementary school, named for him. My father used to speak of those relatives. His father kept in touch with them.
Last fall I got a letter from Jack Barron, Topeka, Kansas trying to find his roots. I note that there are several Jack Barron's in the Shreveport telephone directory. This man got my name from someone in Texas - probably someone I had taught, for I taught for 43.
We live in the rural village of Friendship but our mail comes from Bienville rural route.
All Barron's I know are staunch Baptist. Here are some names common to the family.
1. James - Martha
2. John - Emma
3. Latney - Rose
4. Lewellen - Nannie
5. Thomas - Dora
6. William - Mary Ann
Barron's are hard workers, ambitious, people. The believe in education. Another trait is a high temper. They are Irish mostly. My father said, his father always said, he had German Dutch blood, too.
I hope to hear from you again. Sincerely, Mattie L. Barron
Date: 3/31/2000 8:51:50 PM Central Standard Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
In recent correspondence with David Barron - GGGrandson of Llewellyn G. Barron. He list as the son of Llewellyn G. one Carlton Barron of Natchitoches, LA. they also had another son Benjamin Franklin Barron B: 2-23-1914 in Natchitoches and Died in Ashland, LA - Buried in Coushatta, La. - there was also a daughter, name unknown.
There is a question as to the wife of Llewellyn: Choices are Ellen Josephine or Sarah Jane Thompson. It is believed Sarah was.
Pat Cooper-Colby
Date: 4/1/2000
To: patchildress@prodigy.net
In a message dated 4/1/2000 3:58:57 PM Central Standard Time, patchildress@prodigy.net writes:
<< In that light, I've sent you an updated Caleb Barron, Sr. register with the generations removed which have still surviving parties. I would very much appreciate your replacing the first one I sent with the attached. >>
I'm not sure it's that big a problem, but I'll be glad to change it the first update I can do. And once again, thank you for such a good contribution.
I do have one change that you might consider. Caleb's wife's name was Elizabeth Peden. This is a rather common name in SC, but I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone named Paden before that I remember. I normally don't pay much attention to such interchangeable vowels. Also Peden or a variant of it is on the death certificate of Caleb Barron "Jr." which I have somewhere.
John
Date: 4/1/2000 3:58:57 PM Central Standard Time
From: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
To: JBarron933@aol.com (Barron, John)
John,
Mary Love Berryman of the Smith County Web Site brought to my attention the fact that, as a local practice on her web site, registers do not include any living people. This is due to the unscrupulous out there who search for such information in order to steal the maternal maiden names and social security numbers. While I'm not overly concerned, I think this might well be a wise practice.
In that light, I've sent you an updated Caleb Barron, Sr. register with the generations removed which have still surviving parties. I would very much appreciate your replacing the first one I sent with the attached.
Thanks very much, Pat Childress
Date: 4/1/2000 4:07:49 PM Central Standard Time
From: fdbrown@bayou.com (David Brown)
To: RLCPAC9@aol.com
CC: jbarron933@aol.com (John C Barron)
Pat,
Who is David Barron? My name is David Brown and I am currently doing research on the immediate family of Llewellyn G Barron and Sarah Jane Thompson. Llewellyn G Barron and Sarah Jane Thompson would be my great-great-grandparents. They had a total of 13 children altogether. The Benjamin Franklin Barron you are referring to that was the child of Llewellyn G Barron was born in the later 1870's. He was the 12th of the 13 children of Llewellyn G Barron and Sarah Jane Thompson. Carlton Barron was the son of Benjamin Franklin Barron and Carrie Lucretia Pullig, (Benjamin Franklin Barron's 1st wife). Benjamin Franklin Barron had a total of 6 kids by his first wife and 2 by his second wife...Mary "Kitty" Martin.
Llewellyn G Barron was married twice. His first wife was Sarah Jane Thomspon and his second wife was Ellen Josephine Brown. He ran off with Ellen Josephine Brown in 1889 and went to Oregon then later to Washington with her. He left his first wife...Sarah Jane Thompson.
David Brown
Date: 4/1/2000 4:32:09 PM Central Standard Time
From: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
Thanks for the note on Caleb's wife's name. If you'll examine her biography that I forwarded to you in the register, you'll see that she was named in one document as "Padden." I realize that the spelling could be a problem, since she apparently did not write (she signed several papers with an "X"), and I was unsure about her last name, so if you could cite the references with her name spelled it as you do, I would appreciate it.
Thanks, Pat Childress
(I'm sending Mary Berryman a CC of this, since Mary mentioned to me that the name "Peden" was also in her background and we discussed various ways of spelling Elizabeth's last name.)
Date: 4/2/2000
To: patchildress@prodigy.net
CC: Barron Circle
Well, Pat, guess I've stuck my foot in it again (not unusual for me). Here is what I have on Elizabeth [Padden, Peden, etc.], wife of Caleb Barron.
source: Death certificate #14685 for Caleb Barron, Sr., Texas Dept. Public Health
born: 22 Feb 1848 MS
died: 27 Mar 1943, Smith Co., TX
buried: Mason Cem., Arp
name of father: Caleb Barron, born MS
name of mother: Elizabeth Poyton, born MS
informant: Dewey Barron, Arp
Obviously, the above is a phonetic spelling of something and your guess is as good as mine. And, of course, anything except death information on a death certificate is hearsay.
Also, it could be that your spelling of Padden came from an article in National Historical Magazine, DAR, vol 79 page 369, Jul 1945. I don't seem to have a copy of this, however, so I'm not sure if it's marriage records or what. I think, however, that I still stand by my assumption that the name was Peden due to the prevalence of the name in SC and the southern states and the nonoccurrence of the other spellings as real names. Another one of those pesky "proving a negative" problems, huh.
John
Date: 4/2/2000 1:04:47 PM Central Daylight Time
From: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
Reply-to: patchildress@prodigy.net (Pat Childress in Sugar Land, Texas)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
I assume you meant the death date to be "1943" otherwise, we go into a time warp. Regarding the DAR article to which you refer, no, I didn't get it from there. If it's also spelled "Padden" there, then there would be two documents with the name Padden. There is a genealogy web site for Padden, but I think I've got the only message posted there.
I refer to the following:
In the probation of estate of Elizabeth's deceased husband, Caleb Barron, Sr., ( Abstract #4226, in possession of Sinclair Oil, Tyler, Texas.> Smith County, Texas. Probate minutes, Vol. "c-1", pp. 406-407, filed 3/27/1865) there is the following oath by Elizabeth Barron:
"I, Elizabeth Barron, do solemnly swear that Caleb Barron, deceased, died without leaving any lawful will and that I will well and truly perform all duties of Administrator."
Elizabeth Barron (her mark)
Further in this document, or others pertaining to it, the statement is: "No claims presented against said estate, no suit pending for or against said estate, that the persons entitled to receive estate are: Elizabeth Padden, Sr., surviving widow of said deceased; Elizabeth Perry, wife of William Perry; three minor children of James Barron, deceased."
Since I <JPC> haven't seen the original of the above, it's entirely possible that someone transcribed the last spelling of Elizabeth BARRON to Elizabeth PADDEN.
So, unless we find her family, I'll just use both names in her biography.
Thanks, Pat Childress
Date: 4/2/2000 10:29:48 PM Central Daylight Time
From: jguest@alltel.net (jguest)
To: JBarron933@aol.com (John Barron)
Dear John,
I am forwarding the following message from a Hilley cousin -- suddenly we have BARRONS from every direction!! I do not recall seeing anything about this group in your newsletter -- Doris Fleming doesn't have the birthplace of Oliver Gaines Barron, but he may have been connected to the Elbert/Hart County, GA group in some way.
Nancy Guest jguest@alltel.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Marvin Fleming <mardorfleming@worldnet.att.net>
To: Joy Zowie <joyz@bcni.net>; Ann C. Holloman <anncholl@hotmail.com>; Nancy
B. Guest <jguest@alltel.net>
Date: Sunday, April 02, 2000 12:11 PM
Subject: OLIVER GAINES BARRON
Mary Jane Dingler {(4,) Thomas O. Dingler(3),William Dingler(2) Johannes Dingler(1),} b. abt 1836 Jasper Co. Ga., d. unkown; mar. (Oct 18, 1855 Carroll Co., Ga,) to OLIVER GAINES BARRON, b Sep. 1817, d Apr 23, 1904, Carroll Co., Ga.
Children:
(1) Buddy, b. 1856, d 1856 Carroll Co. Ga
(2) Ada Elizabeth, b. 1857
(3) John Oliver, b 1858, d abt 1878 Carroll Co. Ga
(4) Jordan Joshua, b 1860
(5) Amanicus Jackson, b May 14, 1862, d. July 28, 1933, Eastland Co.Tx.
(6) Joseph, b 1964
(7) Susan, b 1866, d abt 1880 Carroll Co., Ga
(8) Lula, b 1870
(9) Sallie, b 1872
(10) Alice, b 1874
(11) Algena, b 1876
(12) Oliver Gaines, b 1878, d. young
(13) Margaret Daisy, b Jan 28, 1881, d Nov 28, 1964
(2) Ada Elizabeth Barron mar. Lloyd Bryant
(4) Jordan Joshua Barron mar. Ella Burks
(5) Amanicus Jackson Barron m.1) Apr 31, 1882 Carroll Co.Ga, to Mary Frances (Fanny) Holland (Dec 31, 1861 - Dec 29, 1905), m.2) BaxterRodgers. (has 9 children by Fanny: will send if you need them.)
(6) Joseph Barron mar. Josephine Head
(8) Lula Barron mar. Richard Holland (note: don't know if Richard & Fanny are related)
(9) Sallie Barron mar. Jeff Moore
(10) Alice Barron mar Frank Camp
(13) Margaret Daisy Barron mar.Aug 4, 1904, to Wilson Oscar Wilson
Amanicus Jackson Barron is the only child of Mary Jane Dingler & Oliver Gaines Barron that has children listed. This information is taken from my Dingler book, " DINGLERS OF THE SOUTH " written by Terry Cowan, a Dingler descendant.
The Paschall side comes in from Johannas Dingler's wife, Nancy Paschall, b Aug 15, 1766, prob. Granville Co. NC, d 1838 Troup Co Ga ( apparently the daughter of Samuel & Pherreba (Ward) Paschall & granddaughter of William & Reliance Paschall.)
Doris
Date: 4/3/2000 10:18:08 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
Translation of Letter from E.J. Barron - May 29, 1916 - Putnam, Texas
The words in this letter are spelled exactly as she wrote them, as is the punctuation. It is a little difficult to understand, in part, but if you reread it you can figure out what she meant. God Bless her she was lucky to even be able to write this well.
Emmer dear daughter and swetti little children i will try to ansur your letter my hart feels like it would burst i don't no whether i can rite or not but i will try to rite the best i can. We got the tealgram you sent at 8 oclock wesnesday morning an my darling boy died that day at twelve. We would have started that day but we never could get the monney to start with it has nerley killed me and frank both to think we could not go an now never get to see him a gain in the world but one consalation he was a cristian boy an he is in hevon an by the help of god i expect to meet him a agin. Emmer i have cryed an greaved till i ant harly able to get a gout. We wold have come early this spraing but Josy was in a mity bad shape she had a mity bad time all the wasy through an was on the bed for 3 weeks not able to set up before her baby was borned and it will be 1 month old next friday and she is just able to walk a round in the house a little not able to do any thing. Emmer are you all rite yet i do hope you are rite an tell me Emmer what docter did you have with leon did he suffer much where did he complane of hurting dit it run in to swamp fever. Emmer i dont see how we could go back thare now but i would be glad you could come an stay with us a while you wanted to no if thare was eny thing you could work at here they ant any thing you could do till cotton picking time i cant get any thing to do only in cotton picking time but i want you to come if you can maby you can get sum of them to come with you an you want to no what was the best far you to do i think it best if you cant come out here you are on a sickly place an may lose your children or get sick your self an i think it best for you to sell your crop to Ellar Coon or some won an let them pay you the worth of you part of it just as it is an keep your hogs and chicking an cow to help you to live an move back to your mother an take all of your things with you cow chickings an hogs and keep them to help you live an you an lizz ar batner all work to gatheran you will make it through if you try to keep the crop you cant garther it your self an to hair it gathered on it an half you would not get mutch out of it get john or sum of them to look at the crop an see what your part of it is worth just like it stands. Emmer that is the best advice i no i wish frank was here to tell you what he thought a bout it but he is not here he has gone when i got your letter, he is a willies 5 milds from home he will rite when he gets home i never seen anything hurt frank so bad a hereing of leon deth did an i believe it will kill me i just cant hardly stand it i hope the children is better poor little children it is so bad far them to have go give up thear papa i wish you could come out here i want to see you all so bad. Emmer is allen haveing chills you said he was sick. Emmer make the children sum bitters it will be good far them it is good to keep off chills get dog wood bark and willer bark and gramur gray bard bark an boil it to a strong tea an put too parts of the to 1 part of whiskey and gave them a sup of that 3 times a day put just a little cheerry bark in it not too much cheery for it will make them sick stumache it you put too much cheerry. Emmer i wish sum of us could come willie would but he has not got the monnie he is making a crop an bying on a credit he has not got any monnie he would have bin there if he had of had the monney mart is working fa wages an it takes the money as fast as he can make it maby you can get sum of them to come with you and take in the fall cotton picking they can get cotton chopping now a 1 dollar an quarter a day it has raissed a heep of people is in the grass an have just begin to chop cotton now frank will chop cotton that is the only way he has got to make any thing they ant any thing here in town. to do me an him cant make much we have to depend on mart and willie. Emmer dont let the children be in the hot sun much while they are so puney theymite take congestian will i will close hoping to se or hear from you soon be shure to ansur rite a way may gods blessings rest with you all in my prayers from you broken harted mother. E.J. Barron
This letter is from Elizabeth J. (Webb) Barron wife of Benjamin Franklin Barron (Son of Charles and Annie Eliza Brown)
Josy is Josephine Barron wife of Martin Luther "Jack" "Mart" Nettles (Daughter of Eliz. J. Webb & Benjamin Franklin Barron.
Leon is Leon Jackson Barron husband of Emily Ann Salsbury ( He is the one that had died at twelve noon on May 24, 1916 and is buried in Walnut Grove Cemetery - West Monroe, Ouachita Parish, LA
Willie is William H. Barron his wife was Minnie ?
Note: Leon was the father of William "Allen" Barron of Columbia, LA (deceased)
William "Allen was the father of Louise Barron De Lancey of Columbia, LA.
John - Louise and I correspond but she knows very little of the Barron family, she is the one that sent me a copy of this letter, E. J. Barron was her grandmother.
I love to be able to share these things with others, related or not you can learn so much about the life people lived so many years ago.
Pat
Date: 4/3/2000 11:31:35 PM Central Daylight Time
From: hamlet@flash.net (Patrick M. Harrison)
To: JBarron933@aol.com (John Barron)
Years ago (sorry I don't have DAR number) a lady joined the DAR on the service of Joseph Barron of Washington Co., Tn. Years later, when the DAR was weeding out those applications that did not meet the new DAR standards, it was discovered that Joseph (we call Elias) Barron was not a soldier in the ARW but his son Joseph was. Therefore, a check mark was placed on Joseph's DAR line so that anyone who joined under the descendant line on the original application would recognize that Joseph Barron was not a soldier but is considered an ARW Patriot, considered eligible because he took the oath of allegiance in 1777 and purchased land in the new country. The original line is again open.
On October 9, 1999, my cousin in Mississippi, Louise Barron McCraw, used Joseph's application approval to join on her own line, the following descendant line:
1. Joseph Barron married Ann
2. James Barron married Jemimah
3. Joseph Barron married Hannah McClanahan
4. James Barron married Elizabeth Childress
5. Obediah Barron married Naomi Emma Clark
6. Robert Barron married Ruth Barron
7. Louise Barron married John McCraw, Jr.
The DAR accepted her descendant line and her DAR number is 794361
Essentially, the DAR has accepted that the James Barron who sold land with wife Jemimah in Washington County, Tn., is the same James Barron who died in Jerusalem Community, Choctaw County, Ga., and is buried there with his wife Jemimah. (This application does not address the question of James Barron's ARW service.) And, that this James Barron is the son of Joseph (sometimes called Elias) Barron. I make all of you aware of this event because now that the DAR has opened this line, it will surface in the LDS records and other genealogical sites on the internet. Also, any female descended from James and Jemimah Barron is eligible to use the same line. Male descendants can get a record copy of this line and join the Sons of the American Revolution (SAR.)
Cordially, Patrick
Date: 4/3/2000 10:44:57 PM Central Daylight Time
From: njyork@flash.net (njyork)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
I am currently searching the above census and am only about half way through, but have found a number of Barrons so far. I will list them below and hope they might help someone. (I probably missed some )
Jaunice
Supervisor's Dist. # 7 Enumeration Dist. #99
Caleb Barron, Sr. Head. b. Feb 1868, Age 52, Born MS Farmer
Father born SC, Mother born SC.
Wife-Emily b. April 1864 Age 56 Born SC, Father b. SC. Mother b. TN
Daughter Betty b. july 1891 Age 28, TX
Son Roy b. Mar 1896 age24, TX Farmer
Living with them, Claud Moore, Nephew. bMay 1896 age 23, TX Farmer
Living next to him is
Caleb Barron, Jr. Head. b. Oct 1838(enumerator evidently made mistake) age 41 TX Farmer Father born MS. Mother born MS.
Wife Mary b. Oct 1863 age 36, TX Housewife Her father b. SC Mother b. VA
Daughter Jane, b. Apr 1866 age 13 b. TX in school
Daughter Emily b. Aug 1868 age 12 b. TX in school
Daughter Hannie b. Jul 1890 age 9 b. TX in school
Son Tim b. Oct 1892 age 7 b. TX in school
Daughter Janie b. 1895 age 5 b. TX in school
Supervisors Dist. #7 Enumerator"s dist. #90
William H. Barron Head b. Nov 1850 age 49 b. GA House carpenter
Father b. GA Mother b. GA
Wife Calvia b. Dec 1851 age 38 b. TN. Her father and mother b. TN
Son Jay. H. b. Sep 1884 age 15 b. TX. in school
Daughter Effie b. Jan 1886 age 14 TX in school
Daughter Mary b. Feb 1889 age 11 TX in school
Son Leonard B. b. Apr 1892 age 8 TX in school
Living with them Alonso Barron, cousin, b. Oct 1874 age 25 ALA Farm laborer. Both parents b. AlA
Joseph H. Barron Head b. Feb 1853 age 47 GA. Farm Laborer. Both parents b. GA
Son Benford b. May 1870 age 20 TX
Daughter Nellie b. May 1881 age 18 TX in school
Son Elwood b. may 1883 age 16 TX
Son Willy b. Dec 1888 age 11 TX in school
Daughter Fannie b. Apr 1889 age 10 TX in school
Daughter Annie b. May 1891 age 7 TX
Supervisor's Dist. 7 Enumerator's Dist 95
Joseph R. Barron Head v. Aug 1852 age 49 b. GA Dragman. Both parents b. GA/
Wife Fannie b. Mar 1854 age 45 GA. Both parents b. GA
Son Conner (?) b. May 1878 age 22 GA. Dragman
Daughter Beulah b. Apr? 1883 age 16 GA
Daughter Janie b. Mar 1888 age 12 GA
Daughter Tilley b. Oct 1893 age 6 GA
Supervisor's Dist. 7 Enumerator's Dist. 94
William J. Barron Head b. Dec 1866 age 33 TX. Parents both b. GA
Wife Anna b. Dec 1871 age 27 b. GA. Both parents b. GA
Son Claud b. Nov 1893 age 8 TX
Daughter Nora(?) b. Mar 1895 age 5 TX
Daughter Lena E. b Apr 1897 age 3 TX
Living with them Carl M. Cooper b. Aug 1888 age 21 TX. Farm Laborer
Jos. S. Barron Head b. Jun 1838 age 62 GA. Farmer. Both parents b. GA
Wife Mary A. b. Jun 1842 age 58 b. AL. Parents born NC
Daughter Allus? b. May 1870 age 33 TX
Daughter Callie b. Feb 1872 age 28 TX
Daughter Sabbina b. Jan 1874 age 26 TX
Date: 4/4/2000
To: jguest@alltel.net
Nancy, my records show that he was the son of John Barron and Mary Head who was in Carroll Co., GA in 1860. Barron Circle member Joyce McMurray is a descendant of this line.
John
Date: 4/4/2000 11:14:58 AM Central Daylight Time
From: sarchet@wbu1.wbu.edu (Donna Sarchet)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John--
I'm thinking about preparing a post to the Barron Circle regarding some of the recent topics posted--most recently the Oliver Gaines Barron message just now. In the meantime, I wanted to quickly summarize my thoughts for you.
I have had a passing interest in Oliver Gaines Barron (b. 1817) for some time--as you may recall from posts by Joyce McMurry on the Circle, Oliver Gaines Barron is part of her group from Jasper Co., GA. Joyce posted sometime back about trying to identify the Barron heads of household in 1820 Jasper Co., GA. My William Barron (m. Martha Smith and son of Prudence) is there along with his sons in 1820, along with Joyce's group.
Regarding the Oliver and Gaines given names used by this "other" (Joyce's) Barron group in Jasper Co.: In my studies of the published tax and deed records of Wilkes Co. (parent county, of among others, Elbert Co.), the tax records clearly indicate that the land/militia district of Thomas Barron of Wilkes Co. (the only other early Barron in Wilkes besides my Prudence's group) became part of Elbert Co. when that county was formed. Thus, Thomas Barron of Wilkes has to be Thomas Barron of Elbert (and later Hart and Jackson--according to Circle posts) Co., GA.
Further, some of Thomas Barron's close neighbors in his militia district in Wilkes (that became Elbert) were a couple of Oliver families. There are also Gaines families in Wilkes Co., but not in Thomas Barron's particular militia district.
Perhaps coincidentally, I have also discovered (via micofilmed tax records of Hancock Co., GA) that in the militia district of the Barrons I'm studying there, there is a John Oliver paying polls for a Caleb Oliver and a Solomon Oliver who are listed together. Also in this militia district is a Leonard Crawford (sidenote: the Leonards are MD family who moved to Wilkes, where one occasionally sees Leonard used as a given name based on intermarriage with the Leonard family; I do not know if this is the case with this Leonard Crawford).
I don't know that these Oliver (and Gaines) families connect with the Barrons, but I find the name use interesting.
On another front: Vicki Barron Krushwitz and I have been examining the Samuel Barron and Ann Brazil information. (Recall the John/Samuel Barron brothers in Hancock Co., GA who married into the Miller/Bond family have previously been "proposed" by other researchers as being descended from this Samuel/Ann.)
The only sources we find for Samuel Barron and Ann Brazil are the Jones Co., GA history book and the repeated information in a GA Rev. soldiers book (will have to get exact titles before posting to Circle). Anyway, the marked graves of this Samuel and Ann Brazil Barron are in the Barron family cemetery in Jones Co.--every one of the other marked graves in this cemetery are those of the children/spouses and grandchild of Samuel Barron (alleged son of Prudence) who married Joanna Braswell (no known graves for this latter couple).
Vicki and I think that possibly (1) Samuel Barron and Ann Brazil are the same people as Samuel Barron and Joanna Braswell (Brazil can be a variant of Braswell)--with the wrong birth and death dates on the graves, or (2) if they are separate couples, then the burial locations points strongly toward a connection of the Barron/Brazil couple to Prudence's group, or (3) John Davis Garrard was off a generation once again, like he was with Martha (Smith) Barron whose dau. was the one married to a Farr (i.e., there is no documentation that Joanna Braswell was a Braswell; perhaps the Braswell connection goes back one more generation).
One more thing: The neighbors in the Pendleton Dist, SC deeds posted by Karen Robertson are many of the same surnames who are neighbors of my Wilkes/Hancock Co. Barrons--and even the Miller/Barron group. Some of these surnames in Pendleton even intermarried with our two Hancock Co. groups of Barrons (my point: I'm wondering if there is some sort of association that goes way back between the Pendleton group and the Wilkes/Hancock group).
Also, regarding the Miller/Barron group in Hancock: they are closely, intimately associated with the Comer family there (John Barron and Anderson Comer were co-executors of Samuel Barron's estate in 1802, they witnessed each other's deeds, etc.). A Comer is a witness to one of the Barron deeds in Pendleton (too late for our group, but still a possible earlier surname association). Also, in Bobby Gilmer Moss's book on SC Patriots, there is a Thomas Barron who died in service--he served in a regiment under Col. Brandon. Coincidentally, a John Comber[sic] served in the same SC unit.
Also, a Henry Strickland witnessed a Barron deed in Pendleton. Strickland is one of the main SC>GA associates of the Bonds in the NGS Quarterly article (the Bonds who intermarried with the Millers and Barrons and eventually went to MS). In addition, the son of my William and Martha (Smith) Barron m. a Strickland wife (from Edgecombe, NC via SC to Franklin Co., GA) and lived in Jasper and Butts Cos., GA.
There are also Ledbetter references in Karen's deeds in Pendleton. The Ledbetters (and Hollands, which were recently mentioned on the Circle) intermarried extensively with Vicki's and my Stanleys who came from Spartanburg/York Counties, SC (disputed NC/SC border area) > Pendleton Dist., SC> Wilkes Co., GA--and promptly intermarried with our Barron line.
There is also a deed Karen posted where a Barron sold land to a John Rich in Pendleton. Perhaps coincidentally, a William Rich in GA married Sarah Barron, oldest (proposed) dau. of Samuel Barron and Jane Miller.
Are all of these items coincidences? It at least makes me wonder just how connected the early GA Barrons were prior to moving to GA.
Two more items in parting:
1) Regarding the John Bond extensively outlined in the two NGS Quarterly articles (1990 and 1991) who, along with his son Gideon Bond, married two daughters of Alexander Miller in Hancock Co: his parents were John Bond and Lydia Wallis. Lydia (Wallis) Bond's father in Beaufort Co., NC (adjoins Craven Co.) sold land to a Joseph Barron there in 1742 (from memory here on the date). Further, Lydia Wallis Bond later married a Roe, by whom she had a son named Shadrack Roe. This Shadrack Roe resided in Craven Co., NC prior to moving with his twice-widowed mother Lydia to Hancock Co., GA, in the early 1790s. The Roes were close associates of the John/Samuel Barron group there. [Sidenote: The James Smith of Wilkes who had two children marry two children of Prudence Davis Barron has also been documented as to previously living in Craven Co., NC.]
Keep in mind, too, that John Barron married Alexander Miller's widow, Eleanor, and his brother, Samuel Barron, married Alexander Miller's dau., Jane Miller. [Note: Alexander Miller was previously a resident of Wilkes Co., GA prior to appearing in Hancock Co.] Thus, Barron brothers married a Miller mother/dau. and the Bond father/son married Miller sisters--all these Miller women were the widow and 3 daus. of Alexander Miller.
2) Regarding the Samuel Barron who, along with an unnamed wife and child, immigrated to GA from Ireland in the 1770s on the ship "Britanica" and whose (seemingly anyway) wife Ann [previously proposed by some to be Ann Brazil, but I think not] petitioned the GA Assembly for land for her son Samuel (only son and heir of the deceased Samuel Barron, who was deceased): They were closely associated with a John Crozier (he is also on the ship's passenger list and also on Ann Barron's petition named as trustee for young Samuel).
In researching John Crozier, I find him going to Burke Co., GA. This is where Capt. William Barron (native of Ireland, m. Sarah Brumette) lived. As you probably know, this Capt. William Barron died in the Battle of Augusta (which is in Richmond Co., which adjoins Burke Co.) and his widow lived there in Burke Co. until she died in the early 1850s. (This family also had land granted in Washington Co., GA, which is the county where Ann Barron petitioned for the land to be located for her son Samuel.) This William, Sarah, their son William(Jr.), his wife, and other family have marked graves in Burke Co. (I have copies of the pages from a Burke Co. history). My current theory is that this Capt. William Barron is the one John Davis Garrard "confused" with Prudence's husband. More on that another time.
Anyway, I just wanted to let you know the direction of my research (which I'm working on with otheres) at the present. I hope to start posting to the Circle soon with some of this in order to see if I can solicit more information/interest in some of the above Barron issues. (Any suggestions as to which direction to post on first?)
Donna Sarchet
Date: 4/4/2000 12:02:18 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
This information came from Lois De Lancey, daughter of Wm. "Allen" Barron. This is about all she knows of the family.
Note: Lometa Hensley Phone No. 318-325-7173 (if she is still alive, was in 1999)
She is part of the Leon Jackson Barron family. She may have information on the John W.
From letter dated: 9-1-1999
I think the Barron's were originally from this area, (West Monroe - Columbia, LA ).
We had made several trips to Texas. (Baird - near Abilene). I suppose the ones your mother generated from went to Shreveport. I have a picture of the last trip my Grandpa made. I had you a copy made and I'm sending it. Evelyn Gilly gave it to me. (She is Josie Barron Nettles granddaughter). She's in her 70's now.
When I was about 12 years old my Dad wanted so bad to see his family in Texas so he fixed up an old truck and made a canvas cover over the back and my 2 sisters and I rode in the back part of the time.
My Grandpa (Leon Jackson Barron) had a brother and sister there. He may have had more but I don't think he did. It would be in your mothers records if he did. The brother Willie Barron had several boys. Some of the family have visisted us several times since then and about 20 years ago I carried Mama and Daddy to see them again. The boys I remember are WILLIE ROSS, JR.;EVERETTE, CHARLES, AND CECIL and one daughter(don't know her name) Grandpa's sister was Josie (Josephine) Barron Nettles. We saw all of them when we went there when I was 12 yrs. old except Uncle Willie. He had died. I had written to him several times and he had answered my letters (Wish I had kept them) I really wanted to see him. When we went back 20 yrs. ago Aunt Josie and Uncle Mart had died. Uncle Willie's wife Minnie was in a nursing home and died shortly after we were there. They had some children. I don't remember how many but we met a girl and boy I think the boys name was BENNY. The girl was IRMA. Irma was older than my Daddy. She was a saint (just like your mother). She had several boys and one girl, the girl was EVELYN Ingram Gilly. Irna's husband had died before we met them. She raised the children. The boy's I remember were LUTHER, JOHNNY, AND BILLY. BILLY was the youngest. I hadn't heard from them in several years so I called Evelyn about a year ago. She said Billy had died and Johnny had Parkingson disease. Johnny was mayor in a town near Abilene for a long time. Irma had died about the same time Daddy did January 1996 - 3 years ago. She was in her 90's . My Grandpa Leon Jackson Barron - married Emily Ann Salsbury. They had 2 children. My Dad, William Allen and Gartha Ann Barron Morris. The children in Dad's family are: ( Will have to send later today, just discovered I only have some of the sheets, got to locate remainder.)
RE: The picture of Johnny the Orphan - I'm sending a copy of a picture my sister in Wash. (Louise) got from the National Enquirer several years ago. This man looks like my Dad (William Allen Barron). The only difference, his bottom lip is thicker than Dads. He could pass for his twin.
Another name and phone no. she sent Evelyn Gillet's 915-854-1128 in Baird, Texas, she can tell you all about the Texas Barron's. She is Irma Ingram's daughter and Josie Barron Nettles grandaughter. I have no address.
Will send that family listing just as soon as I find where I hid the them.
Pat
Date: 4/4/2000 8:54:14 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
When I become a pest please tell me so, I have great big broad Barron shoulders.
Two note: One I came across another John W. Barron in the Hemstead County, Ark. 1850 census Mom had copied. It reads as follows:
John W. Barron 27 Born: 1823 in Alabama
Julia A. Barron 25 Born: 1825 in Tennessee
James W. Barron 5 Born: 1845 in Mississippi
Emily Barron 3 Born: 1848 in Mississippi
Note: Mother says Charles Barron was actually Samuel Charles Barron but never used the Samuel, if true, I wonder why?
Note: She writes to my sister who was helping her that John may never have been in Natchitoches because he drowned in the River. She does not state when or where.
There are so many of these papers, bits and pieces. A person could go blind or crazy or both.
Pat
Date: 4/4/2000
To: RLCPAC9
CC: luba@loc.gov (Lucy Barron)
In a message dated 4/3/2000 10:18:08 PM Central Daylight Time, RLCPAC9 writes:
<< I love to be able to share these things with others, related or not you can learn so much about the life people lived so many years ago. >>
Pat, thank you so much for the letter it is VERY touching. I sent it to the others in the group and I'm sure all will love reading it. I have a series of letter from my gg-grandfather, Cowan McClung, written in the 1860s to his father. It shows how hard their life was and how hard they had to work, but also points out how much they cared for each other and the family.
By the way, John W. Barron, my g-grandfather married Eugenia McClung in 1875 in Navarro Co., TX. We thought for many years that he was the son of Charles and Ann of Jackson Parish and a brother of Benjamin Franklin from the letter. My daughter is now convinced, however, that he was not from Charles' line and I'm pretty much in agreement.
John
Date: 4/4/2000
To: hamlet@flash.net
In a message dated 4/3/2000 11:31:35 PM Central Daylight Time, hamlet@flash.net writes:
<< Years later, when the DAR was weeding out those applications that did not meet the new DAR standards, it was discovered that Joseph (we call Elias) Barron >>
Thanks, Patrick, I have routed to the circle. By the way I have wondered about this middle name Elias. I don't remember where it came from and haven't seen it actually used any in record that I've seen for this Joseph. Where did it come from?
John
Date: 4/5/2000
To: RLCPAC9
CC: luba@loc.gov
In a message dated 4/4/2000 8:54:14 PM Central Daylight Time, RLCPAC9 writes:
<< Note: She writes to my sister who was helping her that John may never have been in Natchitoches because he drowned in the River. >>
Thanks, Pat, keep the notes coming. Is the above John that your mother was referring to the son of Charles? He seemed to disappear from the radar screen. I wish the family were on the 1870 census. Somehow they were missed. I've looked into it in the past, but can't remember if their neighbors were also missed. Seems like the whole little group of them were. Not unusual since the 1870 southern censuses were conducted by carpetbagger who didn't know the country. Same thing happened to my family in Upshur Co., TX. The entire precinct they lived in is missing.
John
Date: 4/5/2000
To: CColoradomtn@cs.com
In a message dated 4/5/2000 1:02:22 AM Central Daylight Time, CColoradomtn@cs.com writes:
<< Or are there those who still refute this lineage?! >>
Carey, I don't know one way or the other, but it seems pretty convincing to me. I don't think the DAR is infallible, however. I've seen them approve lines as patriots that turned out to be Torys. Good debate topic, though.
John
Date: 4/5/2000
To: luba@loc.gov
In a message dated 4/5/2000 9:25:38 AM Central Daylight Time, luba@loc.gov writes:
<< What exactly is being said here? Who is this John? >>
Well, don't know for sure which is why I sent her the question. She was talking about Charles being named Samuel Charles Barron in the paragraph just prior to this about John.
I have your e-mail in the Barron Circle on your juno account so you missed her total message. I'll send you her answer if it comes through.
Date: 4/5/2000 7:17:50 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
This reference to John drowning was on a page of info she had sent to answer some questions (which I don't have) that my sister (who is deceased) had asked. She simply says "do not know is our John was in Natchitoches - he drowned in River."
Now the other references on the sheet are about Charles Barron and William Barron both being from LA when they entered the C.S.A.
She had one other reference on the sheet that she believed James Barron who Married Mary Thigpin in 1846 to be the brother of Charles Barron.
Sorry I can't help you anymore than that.
Pat
Date: 4/5/2000 8:34:14 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
I am still at it, cleaning out and putting away. My Mom, God bless her soul wrote note on any and everything.
On a very small piece of paper she had this census, with a note to send to Wm. Allen Barron: Question to him was, Could this have been our Grandpa Charles Barron's mother?
1860 Caldwell Parish Census
Elizabeth Barron 56 F - Born 1804
N.F. Barron 26 F
T.J. Barron 24 M
Z.J. Barron 21 M
J.A. Barron 16 M
L.E. Barron 17 F
M.B. Barron 13 F
On the same strip she has note: 1-1-1867 Charles M. Barron - Emily Miller
Winn Parish, LA 1899-1904
Charles Barron - Rena Eailes or Bailes
What do you think about this Elizabeth being Charles mother?
=============================================================The will of John Barron - No notation as to where it came from on Page 29. She never noted sources when she found information. Guess she didn't know better.
The will of John Barron. Daughter Cressy Ann McCord; daughter, Polly James; daughter, Elizabeth Bagley ( $1.50 each); daughter Sally Poteet (wife of James Poteet, an (Indian) slave, to which son in law James Poteet shall have no right or control. Beloved wife, Elizabeth, and at her death to be divided between the lawful heirs of my son, John and my deceased son William. Frances Durrett snf David Lancaster, Executors. 11- September- 1828
Note: My sister has noted 2 John Barron's. She also has made a note Jeanette Boone's grandmother was a Durrett and her grandfather on Oliver. ( I don't know who these people are, never heard or read of them. My sister had inserted the word Indian in above printed text from whatever source it came. She would never enter anything she wasn't sure of. That is why she and mother fought over there genealogy, all the time. Friendly, fighting.
Have lots more, sending a little at a time. Have some Obits and more stories.
Pat
Date: 4/5/2000 10:15:26 AM Central Daylight Time
From: hamlet@flash.net (Patrick M. Harrison)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
As far as I know, almost everyone agrees that Joseph (married Hannah) is the son of James Barron based on the information received from the probate file from Choctaw county. Thomas Barron signed for Joseph Barron for $255. You probably mean the question of whether James Barron married Jemimah is the REAL son of Joseph (sometimes called Elias) Barron and Ann Walker. Right......????
cordially, Patrick
Date: 4/5/2000
To: hamlet@flash.net
Hi, Patrick, no I was referring to Betty Weinke who has indicated that she has reservations about Joseph (m. Hannah) being son of James and Jemima. I don't know one way or the other, but I have it that Joseph died in Nov 1851 and he did have a son named Thomas. I would think that if Thomas received a portion of James' estate then it would have had to be included in Joseph's estate and distributed to his heirs. Wonder if anyone can demonstrate that this happened? That would certainly put the matter to rest.
John
Date: 4/6/2000 12:53:08 AM Central Daylight Time
From: hamlet@flash.net (Patrick M. Harrison)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
As far as I am concerned, the matter is at rest: In the probate record, Return No 2, there is this entry. "Joseph Barron No20, $255.00." On another page of the probate: "Isaac Barron on estate James Barron Return," this entry is on the page: "Received of Isaac Barron admn. on the estate of James Barron two hundred and fifty five dollars in full of my distribution share of said estate, this 27th December 1851, Thomas Barron, Attorney in fact for Joseph Barron." This does not indicate whether Thomas actually went to Choctaw County to receive the money or, the money was somehow sent back to Mississippi. Anyhow, as attorney-in-fact, Thomas would have returned the money to the estate of Joseph Barron, dec'd and it would have been handled as the rest of the estate was handled. The fact that we don't have these distribution papers on Joseph's estate does not negate the fact that Joseph Barron received funds (however much less than the others) because he was one of the children of Joseph Barron. So . . . . where is the reservation????? By the probate records, showing that Thomas received funds as attorney-in-fact for Joseph Barron who had deceased recently clearly is documenting evidence that Joseph is one of the sons of Joseph and Jemimah. Betty is not thinking clearly or does not have the necessary documentation to verify this fact. Remember, we don't have a marriage license for James and Jemimah or Joseph and Hanna either ---- does this make us all illegitimate??? There are very few "smoking guns" in genealogy. You have to use the old noodle sometimes.
Cordially, Patrick
Date: 4/5/2000 10:29:10 AM Central Daylight Time
From: orn@airmail.net (Brenda Spurlock)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
John W. Barron on the 1850 Hempstead Co., AR census mentioned by Pat is my gg grandfather and the ancestor of several Barron circle members. We haven't found proof of parents for him but James A. Barron, shown on the same census, is a strong possibility.
He is listed as:
James A. "Barren," carpenter, age 50, SC
Jane, 50, Ireland
James L., carpenter, 21, AL
William R., carpenter, 19, AL
Isabella, 10, AL
also living with them is Thomas L. Mahan, 24, AL
John W. is in Texas in the 1860's, and in Polk Co., AR with a new wife and family in the 1870's.
Anyone with information that would help establish a relationship between John W. and James A. Barron will make several researchers of this line extremely happy.
Brenda (Barron) Spurlock
Date: 4/6/2000 8:30:28 AM Central Daylight Time
From: sarchet@texasonline.net (Donna Sarchet)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John--
It's been interesting to read all the posts on the Barron Circle lately. I, too, plan to post soon, but I'm checking out a few more things first so that I don't go around making rash suppositions and statements.
My pending post to the Barron Circle will begin with my thoughts on Thomas Barron of Edgecombe Co., NC>Wilkes/Elbert Co., GA>Hart/Jackson Cos., GA. I'm forwarding below a Barron/Mercer connection that I am currently pursuing.
I will be back in touch with you in the next day or two with a post ready to forward to the Circle.
Donna
Date: 4/6/2000 8:31:26 AM Central Daylight Time
From: njyork@flash.net (njyork)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
Here are the rest of the Barrons on the above Census. Hope I got them all. Am going to the 1880 Census next.
Jaunice
Supervisor's Dist. #7, Enumerator's Dist. #104
Barron, Henry, Head, b. Oct 1854 age 46, MS. Farmer Both parents from MS.
Mollie, Wife, b. Jan 1854 age 46, TX. Both parents from GA/
James, Son, b. Apr 1868 age 32, TX Farm Laborer
Robert, Son, b. Jan 1875 age 25, TX. Farm Laborer
Amanda, Daughter, b. Apr 1878 age 23 TX
Samuel, Son, b. 1885 age 15 TX
Supervisor's Dist. #7. Enumerator's Dist. #101
Barron, Virgil N. Head, b. Dec 1859 age 40 GA. Farmer. Both parents from GA.
Orsena F, Wife, b. Jul 1863 age 36, TX. Father from TX. Mother-AL
Viola V, Daughter b. Mar 1887 age 13 TX
Emma F, Daughter b. Feb 1890 age 10 TX
Cary A., Son, b. Apr 1894 age 6 TX
Bonay L., Daughter b. Mar 1898 age 2 TX
Supervisor's Dist. #7. Enumerator's Dist. # 106
Barron, Robert Head b. Mar 1874 age 26 TX. Both parents AL.
Jennie, Wife b. May 1875 age 25 TX. Both parents TN
Minnie M. Daughter, b. Jan 1896 age 4 TX
Carl B, Son, b. Nov 1897, age 2, TX
Lee L, Son, b. Oct 1899, age 7mos. TX
Barron, Howell, Head, b. Mar 1855 age 45, GA. Both parents GA.
Elvira W. Wife, b. Dec 1857 age 42, MS. Both parents TN.
Bertha E., Daughter, b. Jul 1882 age 17, TX, in school
Hand, John H. Boarder, b. Feb 1875 age 25 TX, Farm Laborer, TX
Supervisor's Dist. #7. Enumerator's Dist. # 107
Barron, Charlie M. Head b. Oct 1861, age 59 GA Farmer. Both parents SC.
Emma M. Wife b. Dec 1876 age 23 TX. Father-GA. Mother-VA
James R. Son b. Jul 1896 age 3 TX
Hattie B. Daughter b. Nov 1898 age 1, TX
Knight, Louis Boarder b. Nov 1894 age 15, TX Farm Laborer
Barron, Earl H. Head b. Jan 1876 age 24 GA. Farmer. Both parents GA
Ada, Wife b. Dec 1878 age 21, TX. Both parents AL
Clifford Son b. Sep 1886 age 3, TX
Barron, William H. Head, b. May 1825 age 75 GA. Farmer. Both parents GA
Mary W. Wife b. May 1851 age 49 MS. Father from GA
Scarborough, Cora Step-Daughter b. Jun 1870 age 29 TX.
Pool, Vernie, Boarder b. Nov 1888 age 11 TX. Both parents TX/
Barron, William Head b. Feb 1866 age 34 TX. Parents GA.
Milly, Wife b. Sep 1874 age 27 TX. Parents NC
Clara E. Daughter b. Dec 1892 age 7 TX
Johnie T. son b. May 1896 age 4 TX
Brogan N. Son b. Jan 1899 age 1 TX
Barron, Joseph F. Head b. Jul 1860 age 39 TX Farmer. Parents-GA.
Safronie, Wife b. Apr 1870 age 30 TX. Parents GA
Justin R, Son b. Mar 1891 age 9 TX
Lonar J. Daughter b. Nov 1892 age 7 TX
John B. Son b. Oct 1894 age 5 TX
Robert (?) Son b. Aug 1897 age 3 TX
Fred M. Son b. May 1900 age 1 month TX
Date: 4/7/2000 5:17:42 PM Central Daylight Time
From: CP4FSU
To: JBarron933
Hi John:
In response to the previous e-mails regarding the Arkansas Barrons, I am also searching for members of my family line whom lived in that State.
They were:
Ridley Jane (Barron ) Jones located in Rosebud Ark. ( b. abt. 1874, married Wiley B. Jones)
Edward Preston Barron located in Berta , ARK. ( born abt. 1856 and married Lou Kennedy
John Barron located in Argenta Ark.( born abt 1846 in Barbour Cty, Al.)
These locations were given in my g grandmothers ( Jane Barron ) Will dated Aug. 1912 , Barbour County, Al.
I also am needing information on Bill ( William ) Barron of Haniville, La ( it's a handwritten Will and that's what the name of the city looks like) for any La. researchers.
Thanks, Carolyn Ponds
Date: 4/8/2000 6:24:39 PM Central Daylight Time
From: notwerb@bellsouth.net
Reply-to: notwerb@mail2.lig.bellsouth.net
To: CP4FSU@aol.com, YukiYama2@aol.com, MYSEAGA@aol.com, JBarron933@aol.com
Carolyn,
I just read your e-mail to John Barron in which you mentioned another John Barron of Argenta, Prk, Ark.(born about 1846 in Barbour Co. Al.). My g g grandparents, Joseph M. and Sabre Bryant Barron lived in Barbour Co. Al. where my g grandmother, Nancy Elizabeth Barron was born Aug. 28th, 1847.
In a reproduction of the 1860 census of Pike Co. Al. provided by John Barron, it shows a Joseph M. Barron, age 28, as head of household (my g g grandfather, Joseph M. Barron must have died prior to the census), and my g g grandmother, Sabre Bryant Barron as being 42 years of age. The Joseph listed as head of the household must have been the oldest child. The other children listed have ages close enough to be his siblings. Prior to seeing this census we knew only the names of our g g grandparents and our g grandmother Nancy Elizabeth, and the fact that they lived in Barbour Co. Al.
The other children listed in the census were Sarah, age: 22, John W., age: 15, Martha, age: 14, Elizabeth, age:13, James, age:9, Randolph age: 5, and B. Lafayette, age:1. Do you feel this is the same John Barron who later lived in Ark.? If so, any information you are able to provide on our Barrons would be appreciated. Unfortunately, we do not know anything about our connections before Joseph M. Barron.
Thanks, Warren Brewton
Date: 4/9/2000 8:26:22 AM Central Daylight Time
From: Sbarroncfp@worldnet.att.net (Steven Barron)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
Thanks again for your reply to my message. As I said on my first email, I'd really like to research whatever information you have. You mentioned that John Robert's parents were William H. Barron and Martha Dubose. Were they from Arkansa? What other children did they have etc. I look forward to your reply ... thanks again Steve Barron - Bainbridge Island, Wa.
Date: 4/9/2000 12:11:58 PM Central Daylight Time
From: sbarroncfp@yahoo.com (Steve Barron)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hi Cuz! Thanks for the information. My father was Joseph Jefferson Barron, one of the two sons not show as children for Marvin Barron. Joseph Marvin married Lula A. Gregory. Marvin appears to be the 11th child of John Robert Barron and Edith Thomasson ... then you know the rest. I will add the other details in and forward them to you .. but what can you tell me about "Capt. William Barron? Did he come over from Ireland? If so, do you know anything back prior to him? Look for more information shortly.
Date: 4/10/2000 1:06:01 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
When you have five family lines going, you are bound to find crossed over information. The following things I found in with our Bailes, line.
For what they may be worth, here they are.
EIGHTEEN MEN OF THE WALLACE COMMUNITY ( No I do not have the photo)
On the opposite page is a picture of 18 men of the Wallace Community who were summoned to Mansfield, ( I presume LA) on a special jury case in 1892 or 1893. While there they had their picture made in a group.
Beginning at left. Back row:
Jim Emmons - Jess Emmons - Jim Powell - JIm Valentine - John Wilson.
Second row from back:
W.H. Ruddin - U.B. Butler - Isaac Emmons - E.L. Walker
Third row from back:
John Walker - D.C. Bennett - J.W. Greer - I.D. Buckeliew - D.H. Ott
Front row:
P.L. BARRON - John Clark - G.C. Butler - S.B. Howell
Under the picture of the Author in front it should read, "Author, Amos J. Barron." The Printer made an error and put it " Author, Amos J. Barrow."
Also an error was made in the printing under the name of Rev. T.D.Bush in this, the Wallace section. It should read "Rev. T.D.Bush" and not "Rev. T.D. Rush."
1844-1910 1892
The name Reding under the picture should be spelled with on "d" instead of two. It should read " J.J. Reding " and not " J.J. Redding".
Note: This is copied from a page of a book. Someone had noted at the bottom in pen that the Emmons was a Miller allied name. Ellen Barron married Caleb Miller.
This second item if in my sisters hand writing and as I have said before she would not put it down unless she was almost positive it was fact, even tho she never noted sources.
Information from Carolyn Barron Parker - of Baird, Texas 79504 (I do have her address, don't know if it is still good.
Jackson Parish, LA. B.F. Barron bought land on Jan. 28, 1884. Charles Barron bought land on April 1, 1850 and Dec. 18, 1854. 82.59 acres for .25 an acre . Aug. 19, 1859, 82.59 acres for 12.5 cents an acre. William Barron bought land on Oct. 12, 1859, 40.49 acres fro 12.5 cents an acre.
William Barron 29 years old in 1860 - Born in Alabama. Old grave near Joseph P. Coats and Desdemona Coats - Marked Margaret Anderson 1792-1859. NOTE: This information would put his birthday at 1831 and why isn't his name on the grave?
John Bailes nephew of Luther Martin lives on land owned by Charles Barron in Jackson Parish, LA. John Bailes father was married to a Martha Barron Bailes NOTE:
Carolyn told my sister that Luther Martin said his mother was John E. Bailes, sister and her name was Martha Barron Bailes.
Elizabeth Webb Barron d. 3-13-1942 and Benjamin Franklin Barron d. 2-18-1922
Luther Nettles lives in Shreveport, LA.
Samuel B. Barron (From Souvenirs of Texas 1889 D.A.R. Book)
James Barron b Ireland about 1770. James came to America as a young man, married and settled in South Carolina, where his son Samuel B., Sr was born 3-23-1793. Samuel B. Sr. married Martha Ashworth Cotten, dau. of James Cotten. S.B located on a farm in Alabama. He was JP of Madison County, AL where he died 5-15-1842. Martha Cotten Barron was born in Davidson County, TN - 5-19-1796. Her father James Cotten, b. Guilford Co., NC moved to AL in 1808. He was in the Battle of Guilford Court House, NC and commanded a company in War of 1812-1815.
Samuel B.Jr., 3rd child born to Samuel B. Sr. and Martha C. Barron. Nov 9, 1834 in Madison Co., AL. In 1859 he located at Rusk, Cherokee Co., Texas.
Note: Carolyn used to visit my mother and had a lot of Barron information. She spent a lot of time working on it. She unlike my Mom and is did I believe document her information. If you don't know of her John maybe you could locate her. I really hate to put address or phone numbers of living on the Email.
Another part of one of Carolyn's letter to my mother. She had been to the Mc Murray College Library (location unknown -- in Texas).
She says I found information of Samuel Barron and I just knew it might have been g.g. grandpa - this information was in a real real old book and was written in that year 1889. I've found several Barron's that immigrated from Ireland in 1750. Jno. Barron 1600 - 1700, bought 14 acres hired servants - none, bought servants - none, Negroes - 6. William Barron - bought 19 acres, hired servants - l, bought servants, none - Negroes 15; Robert Barron 9-2-1635 18 years old bought license to go beyond the seas. Passenger list form Ireland arriving in America 1811. John Barron, NY Port of entry: NY, Name of Ship: Protection, Master: Bearns, 44 days of voyage - 71 passengers.
That's enough for now, got to go grocery shopping.
Pat
Date: 4/11/2000
To: RLCPAC9
Thanks, Pat. That's some good information. I don't think there is any connection between the Jackson Par. Barrons and the Samuel Barron from Madison Co., AL. They were very wealthy folks from SC originally. Samuel B. Barron of Rusk, TX, was a CW officer and well known in the community.
John
Date: 4/11/2000 6:28:00 PM Central Daylight Time
From: njyork@flash.net (njyork)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John.
This is what I could find on the above Census. I am sure I missed some as some areas were impossible to read even with a good magnifying glass. Anyway, here are a few that might help someone.
Thanks.
Jaunice
CITY OF TYLER, pg. 39. Supervisor's Dist #1, Enumerator's Dist. #94
Barron, J.A. age 27 GA. Both Parents GA
A.D. wife age 27 AL. Both Parents AL Mill son age 5 TX
? son age 2 TX
Burford son age 1 mo. TX
Barron, ?? age 48 GA Farmer Both Parents. GA
E.D. Wife age 52 GA Keep House Both Parents NC
Joseph Son age 19 TX Farm Hand
J.R. Daugh. age 17 TX At Home
W. N. Son age 14 TX At Home
S.E. Daugh. age 11 TX At Home
Carter, EW Boarder age 26 TX
PRECINCT 7 Supervisor's Dist. 1 Enumerator's Dist. 99 p.38
Barron, William age 54 GA Farmer Both parents GA
Sarah C. wife age 38 GA Keep House Father NC, Mother GA
William J. son age 27 GA Farmer
James son age 26 GA Farmer
Reeves son age 13 GA Works on Farm
Peacock, Ann Niece? age 8 TX At Home
Barron, Joseph age 46 GA Farmer Both parents GA
Mary A wife age 38 AL Keep House Father AL. Mother GA
William son age 13 TX In School
John T. son age 10 TX In School
Joseph M. son age 7 TX In School
Robert C. son age 6 TX In School
George A. son age 4 TX At Home
Alis A Daugh age 2 TX At Home
Omon, Frank age 18 Hireling IN Works on Farm
Tomlinson, Evalyn age 62 Mother In Law NC
Barron, Andrew age 29 AL Farmer Both parents GA
Mary Wife age 19 AL Keep House Both parents AL
John P. son age 5 AL
Andrew son age 2 TX
Jacob, Clare age 15 AL Boarder
Supervisor'sDist. l, Enumerator's Dist 94
Barron, J. W. age 30 GA Farmer Both parents GA
Gray? son age 7 TX
P. M. Daugh age 5 TX
Deshing, A. M. Mother age 61 GA Keeping House Both Parents GA
Stephens, S. A. Bro-in-law age 40 Laborer MS Both parents MS
Super. Dist. 1 Enumer. 87
Barron, Henry age 33 MS? Farmer Both parents SC
Virna Wife age 30 MS Keep House Both parents VA
James son age 13 TX At Home
Judy Daugh age 9? TX
Bob son age 5 TX
Barron, W. T age 54 Ga Farmer Both parents GA
M.L. Wife age 51 GA Keep House Both parents NC
G. E. Daugh. age 33 GA
H. R. Son age 25 GA Farming
Y. A. son age 20 GA Farming
C. A. Daugh. age 15 GA At home
A. L. Daugh. age 12` GA At home
T. J. son age 10 TX At home
Date: 4/12/2000
To: Barron Circle
In a message dated 4/11/2000 6:06:39 PM Central Daylight Time, fdbrown@earthlink.net (David Brown) writes:
John,
Here is something I would like for you to release to the rest of the Barron Circle and to all interested parties. As you know, I am currently researching the "immediate" family of Llewellyn G Barron and Sarah Jane Thompson of the Natchitoches Parish / Bienville Parish area of Louisiana in the late 1800's. I am releasing the correct names of the children, 13 of them, along with 2 pictures...Llewellyn G Barron and Sarah Jane Thompson!
Descendants of Llewellyn G Barron
1. LLEWELLYN G1 BARRON was born June 23, 1838 in Winston County, Mississippi, USA, and died September 28, 1928 in Walla Walla, Walla Walla County, Washington - Blue Mountain Cemetery. He married (1) SARAH JANE THOMPSON October 03, 1855 in Bienville Parish, Louisiana, USA. She was born May 20, 1835, and died April 01, 1919 in Ramah Cemetery. He married (2) ELLEN JOSEPHINE BROWN Bet. 1889 - 1890 in Oregon, USA. She was born August 09, 1854 in Hampton, Arkansas, USA, and died June 05, 1920 in Walla Walla County, Walla Walla, Wa. - Blue Mountain Cemetery,.
Children of LLEWELLYN BARRON and SARAH THOMPSON are:
i. THEODOSIA JANE2 BARRON, b. October 21, 1857; d. 1944; m. JAMES WASHINGTON JACOB, June 20, 1880, Bienville Parish; b. March 10, 1857; d. December 12, 1924, Robeline, Natchitoches Parish, La., USA..
ii. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN BARRON, b. March 08, 1876; d. August 14, 1942; m. (1) CARRIE LUCRETIA PULLIG, February 09, 1899; b. January 22, 1881; d. December 11, 1911; m. (2) MARY C. "KITTY" MARTIN, December 29, 1912; b. December 26, 1877; d. December 19, 1930.
iii. HORACE SOLON BARRON, d. December 29, 1951, Ashland, Natchitoches Parish, La., USA; m. ANNIE WALKER, January 26, 1882; d. Ramah Cemetery.
iv. SICILY PALESTINE BARRON, b. July 08, 1856, Castor, Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, USA; d. February 09, 1927, Campti, Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, USA; m. (1) SPIER GRILLIETTE, December 30, 1876, Magnolia, Columbia County, Arkansas, USA; b. August 11, 1838; d. April 19, 1884; m. (2) JOHN HARRISON SULLIVAN, January 28, 1891; b. August 14, 1839, Noxubee County, MS; d. January 04, 1924, Ashland, Natchitoches Parish, La., USA.
v. LLEWELLYN G BARRON, JR..
vi. MARGARET VIOLA BARRON, m. WALTER J JACOB, July 01, 1877.
vii. MARTHA ELIZABETH BARRON, b. November 03, 1863, Ebenezer Community, (Castor, La.); d. April 01, 1959, Ramah Cemetery; m. (1) CHILDS H MORRIS, November 15, 1891; m. (2) MADISON RANDALL LAY, December 15, 1895; b. November 08, 1864; d. July 06, 1930, Ramah Cemetery..
viii. LEONARD EXENOPHEN BARRON.
ix. SARAH JANE BARRON, b. May 01, 1869; d. August 14, 1895, Ramah Cemetery; m. MADISON RANDALL LAY, January 03, 1888; b. November 08, 1864; d. July 06, 1930, Ramah Cemetery..
x. NEKAYAH E BARRON, b. March 17, 1871; d. August 06, 1915, Ashland, Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, USA - Ramah Cemetery; m. JOHN LILBURN NELSON, November 14, 1895; b. January 18, 1869; d. June 27, 1942, Ashland, Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, USA - Ramah Cemetery..
xi. MAGGIE BARRON, b. September 15, 1873; d. September 24, 1946; m. BENJAMIN F ENLOE, January 13, 1895.
xii. JOHN BUNYAN BARRON, b. July 05, 1877; d. San Angelo, Tom Green County, Texas, USA; m. ALICE LENORA MCLAUGHLIN; b. May 03, 1875; d. San Angelo, Tom Green County, Texas, USA.
xiii. BEULAH BARRON, b. Abt. 1867.
Children of LLEWELLYN BARRON and ELLEN BROWN are:
xiv. VIRGIL LAWRENCE2 BARRON, b. August 12, 1890.
xv. MAE JOSEPHINE BARRON, b. January 11, 1894.
Date: 4/12/2000 5:25:58 PM Central Daylight Time
From: fdbrown@earthlink.net (David Brown)
To: jbarron933@aol.com (John C Barron)
Hi John,
Kinda' glad to be home a little earlier today. I've been traveling in the rain for the last two days and I just can't seem to stay somewhere long enough to get dry for a little bit. Anyway, my documentation comes from various sources. As you already know, I am specifically studying the family of Llewellyn G Barron and Sarah Jane Thompson. Out of 13 children in that family I have already found the descendants of 10 of them. One died as a young girl and another died as a young man, (neither of these were ever married), so there were no descendants from these 2. I have already accounted for the whereabouts of 12 of these kids. The family of the 13th child is in another state so it may be a little bit yet before I find them, but...I will. I already know what city they are in. I just need to make contact.
Beulah Barron is the child that died as a young girl. She died at the age of six. The only time that she shows up anywhere on a census record is on the 1870 Bienville Parish Census. I do not know the cause of death. But her death is documented in the Lay family history...written by Clarice Lay Detro. Clarice is the daughter of Mattie Barron, (aka Martha Elizabeth Barron), and M R Lay. L G Barron, Jr., is the other child that died as a young man. He was never married and I have a copy of his succession record from Natchitoches Parish and another one from Bienville Parish. Neither of these documents lists a date of death. Both of these succession records specifically list his father, L G Barron, Sr., as the executor of his estate.
The John Bunyan Barron descendants sent me the picture of Llewellyn G Barron. They have his name listed as Llewellyn Gideon Barron. I have a copy of a letter written in 1975 by Clarice Lay Detro that states his name is Llewellyn Gillian Barron. I got the picture of Sarah Jane Thompson from the Benjamin Franklin Barron line a couple of months ago. I just wanted to wait until I had both pictures before I turned them loose. I consider these 2 pictures a rare and great find. I know there are a lot of interested parties in the Barron Circle concerning this family and I wanted to get some information out there on them.
As for your main question though...my sources came from several, (very successful), letter writing campaigns, telephone calls, cemeteries, a hell of a lot of pounding the pavement looking for descendants, various courthouses and libraries as well as personal interviews. Over the last several months I have accumulated quite a bit of information on this family. I am trying to release some long awaited information on this family while also attempting to protect the privacy of some of the descendants.
I will be releasing more information shortly. I like to wait for verification before I turn anything loose. What I did release is what I am sure of. I am continuing my search on this family and I do have more information coming in. You will be hearing from me again and I do hope this information has helped.
David Brown
Date: 4/12/2000 10:03:22 PM Central Daylight Time
From: orn@airmail.net (Brenda Spurlock)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
Cousins who are trying to prove a relationship between James A. Barron b. 1800 SC, and John W. Barron b. 1824 AL, will be happy to learn that James A.'s 1857 Hempstead Co., AR Land Patent application was witnessed by John W. (Other witnesses include: John Murray, Elias Carruth, Alsey B. High.) E-mail me for details.
Brenda (Barron) Spurlock
Date: 4/13/2000 9:21:39 AM Central Daylight Time
From: Doyce 21128
To: JBarron933
Interested in connection to line .He married Ala Marie Griffin from Ponitoc MS . only know of one son H. Barron Jr. (my 1st husband) His family is said to have owned a mattress factory in Athens TX.
Date: 4/13/2000 10:28:32 AM Central Daylight Time
From: tdstepen@peoplescom.net (Tommy Stephenson)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
This might be old news on Jamison Barron. William Minter Hillhouse 3/18/1760-4/12/1848 married Sarah Elvira Hall,daughter of James Hall. Their daughter(name not known)married Jamison Barron 1728-1850. They had a daughter Jane Barron who was living with her father in both the 1840 and 1850 in Mississippi. She was born about 1826.
This information was sent to me by Roger Hillhouse. The Hillhouse family married into the Dickey family of York County,S.C. James Hillhouse married Mary Dickey. Their son George Hillhouse married Mary Dobbins daughter of James Dobbins and Elizabeth Stevenson or Stephenson.
Tom Stephenson
Date: 4/13/2000
To: tdstepen@peoplescom.net
Not at all. I've always thought that his wife was a Hillhouse but no confirmation of such. Which line do you think Jamison Barron is from anyway? I've thought it was the James Barron of York Co., SC, line, but have no evidence one way or the other.
John Barron
Date: 4/13/2000 4:37:23 PM Central Daylight Time
From: harley9@earthlink.net (The Whitts)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
I was told to write to you for help. I am looking for a Henry Barron who married in Galveston, Tx, not sure of the date, could be from 1870 to 1880. He was born in Miss. in 1844. His brother Samuel married in Orange, TX in 1875. We do not know who Henry married.
Thank You Karen Whitt
Date: 4/13/2000 9:37:10 PM Central Daylight Time
From: DRREESE66
To: JBarron933
CC: barde@bellsouth.net, sarchet@texasonline.net
I just had an opportunity to read this letter in its entirety. I do not find it justifies the criticism that has been made of it to negate its statements that William Barron/ Prudence Davis came from Ireland. Several points not brought out in the critique tend to support his information.
1. He was born 1827 and states that "in my youth" he began collecting info on his direct line. He states he frequently spent time with his great uncle, William Barron Jr, son of William/Prudence (the only one of their known children who did not die before John Davis was born) who died when John Davis was about 21. It seems most unlikely that this son of William would have stated that his father was beheaded if he was not or that he would not have corrected John Davis if he had heard it elsewhere and it was untrue. Likewise, that William/Prudence came from Ireland. John Davis's father obviously knew a lot and he had the opportunity to talk to all four of William/Prudence's children.
2. It appears that John Davis wrote the entire letter from memory (at one point, he inserts the name of a child that he said he forgot when he was listing his siblings).
The letter was written when he was 64. He says after his father died, when John was about 44, he began recording all the facts he could remember (beyond those he had already recorded on his "direct line"). His "I think", "I am not sure", etc appear to be an attempt to let the letter recipient know when he was not absolutely certain of the info which followed, not that he had serious doubts about it.
3. The most telling comment he makes is about Elizabeth Barron Garrard, his grandmother and daughter of William/Prudence. "Elizabeth was most likely born in Ireland and always spoke with a little Irish brogue as long as she lived." This trait, to me, seems most unlikely if she was born in America. (From what I have seen, it has been stated that John, the oldest child was born in Ireland, Elizabeth probably and the last two, William and Samuel in Georgia.)
Related information: John Barron, oldest son of William/Prudence, in his will mentions a plaid cape on which he places an extremely high value for that time. Tradition says that this cape was the only thing his sons were able to retrieve when they went to Augusta to get their father's body. If so, it is natural that it was in the possession of his oldest son 40 years later.
John, I am not trying to "prove" William/Prudence came from Ireland or that William was beheaded in Augusta. I am saying that John Davis Garrard, the letter writer, had direct contact with one or more persons who absolutely knew the truth of both of these. I do not believe his letter's statements can be discredited with the assumptions that have been made. On the other hand, it is clear that a William Barron and Prudence Davis lived in New Bern, NC. Given the several William Barrons that were in the South at the time of the Revolution and the commonality of the name Davis, they can only be offered as another possibility. Likewise, at least some of the "traditions" about William Barron, Sr. probably refer to another William Barron (It has now been established that William Barron, Jr's wife's maiden name was Smith, not Farr, so possibly this name crept into some of the traditions.)
I hope this message elicits comments from those out there who know a lot more about all this than I do.
Regards, Dave Reese
Date: 4/13/2000 9:49:45 PM Central Daylight Time
From: notwerb@bellsouth.net
To: om@airmail.net (BrendaSpurlock), MYSEAGA@aol.com, YukiYama2@aol.com, JBarron933@aol.com, bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net
Brenda,
After reading your note to John regarding James A.& John W. Barron, I wondered if there could possibly be a connection to my gg grandfather Joseph M. Barron. He lived in Barbour Co. Al. during the 1840s. My g grandmother, Nancy Elizabeth Barron was born there in 1847. Several other siblings were also born there, including a brother, John W. Barron around 1845. I recently got information on my line from John Barron's web site. Perhaps you saw it also.
I am curious as to whether my gg grandfather Joseph M. Barron and John W. Barron could be brothers. If so, is James A. Barron related also? I don't have a birth date for Joseph M., but he evidently died before the 1860 census in Pike Co. Al. because his oldest son is listed as head of household. My gg grandmother, Sabre Bryant Barron is part of the household as are the other children, including John W. Barron at age 15.
If you have any ideas that could help me I would appreciate the help. So far, I am stumped and cannot get beyond my gg grandfather Joseph M. Barron and my gg grandmother Sabre Bryant Barron.
Thanks, Warren Brewton
Date: 4/13/2000 11:02:09 PM Central Daylight Time
From: tdstepen@peoplescom.net (Tommy Stephenson)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
I should have anticipated your question. I do not know Jamison Barron's line. I am going to send some emails to the York County, S.C. mailing list and see what I can find out about Jamison. My Stephenson cousin has never mentioned Jamison Barron, so he could belong to the Archibald Barron line. Oh!!! I am looking at a letter from my Stephenson Cousin dated Nov.1,1997, and he has the same William Hillhouse, with the same dates 1760-1848, marrying Sarah Barron, sister of Jane Barron, as opposed to marrying Sarah Hall. I am going to have to check this out. I am forwarding the letter from Roger Hillhouse.
Tom Stephenson
Date: 4/14/2000
To: DRREESE66
CC: Barron Circle
Dave this is wonderful work on your part and is the very reason for this forum. No, we're not "proving" things (and really never do), we are just collecting data, studying and thinking about it, and drawing logical conclusions from it. These conclusions, however, can change tomorrow if new information is uncovered.
Your analysis of this letter is the first logical treatment of it that I have seen. However, as I'm sure you realize, every point that you have made still constitutes hear-say information and no one has yet to come up with any hard data to confirm any of it. That should be the next goal for this line.
If you have transcribed the letter I would be happy to post it on the web page so that others can have access to it. Thanks again and I'm sure this will give us some good debating points.
John Barron
Date: 4/14/2000 8:46:51 PM Central Daylight Time
From: DRREESE66
To: JBarron933
John-based on info added at the end, it appears the version I have is a typed copy of a typed copy which was made from the original. This version has been photocopied several times. Rather than try to scan it in and have something poorly legible (if I had the original, I would scan it), I will retype it. This will take a little time as it is 7 legal size pages double spaced. Once I get it, I will attach it to an e-mail.
I realize it is hearsay, but given all the effort to find original documents, having a document written by a person who talked frequently to the son of William/Prudence appears about as close as we will get. Never-the-less, it is known to contain errors, both in names and dates, some of which he acknowledges.
My sister is trying to locate a copy of John Barron's, son of William/Prudence, will to see all the detail it contains. I have only seen an abstract. I particularly would like to see to whom he left the cloak.
Regards, Dave Reese
Date: 4/14/2000 10:43:08 PM Central Daylight Time
From: tdstepen@peoplescom.net (Tommy Stephenson)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
Here is some information on the Archibald Barron family of York County. I am still looking for information on Jamison Barron
>X-Original-Sender: lpettus@cetlink.net Fri Apr 14 18:47:50 2000
>Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:49:04 -0400
>Subject: Re: [SCYORK] BARRON
>From: "Louise Pettus" <lpettus@cetlink.net>
>
>All I have on Pressley/Barron connection:
>
>Dr. Archibald Ingram Barron was father of Walter Taylor Barron who married Mary Lapsley. They were parents of Dr. John Ingram Barron, b. 18 Sept 1875 at Yorkville. He
>married Eugenia Auld and they were the parents of John Ingram Barron,Jr. and William Lapsley Barron.
>
>From the above it sounds as if Dr. Archibald I. Barron was in Yorkville in1875.
>
>Civil War Soldiers:
>
>Samuel Watson Barron, (10 Jan 1840 ?-23 Dec. 1862), son of Archibald and Margaret Ewart (Watson) Barron.
>James Franklin Barron (23 Dec. 1840 ?- d. in Fla, 1928, son of Archibald & Margaret Ewart (Watson), m. Jane Anne Killian.
>Archibald Alexander Barron, (29 Oct 1836-20 Jul 1864), son of same.
>Samuel DeKalb Barron (21 Jan 1847-30 Oct 1885), son of John and Eliza E (Pressley) Barron, m. Lucy Anna Bynum.
>James Philander Barron (19 Sep 1843-5 Jun 1862), son of John and Eliza E.(Pressley) Barron.
>John Alexander Barron (26 May 1847-2 Apr 1905), son of Archibald Ingram & Mary Adams (Pressley) Barron.
>William Rowan Barron (21 Mar 1836-20 Jul 1917), d. in Ark., son of same, m. Elizabeth Virginia Barron and (2) Mary J. (Foster) Moore.
>
>----------
>>From: Cvoaks@aol.com
>>To: SCYORK-L@rootsweb.com
>>Subject: Re: [SCYORK] BARRON
>>Date: Fri, Apr 14, 2000, 9:25 PM
>>
>
>>"the only son left in York County was Archibald Barron." Was this Archibald
>>I. Barron, MD, who married Mary Pressley? And had 12 children: Ann, William,
>>Farney, Ben P. S____, Louisa married a Wilson, Jane, John,______, Emma,
>>Walter and George. I am working on Mary Pressley line. Do you have any
>>information concerning her parents?
Thanks Janyce
Date: 4/14/2000 11:54:52 PM Central Daylight Time
From: tdstepen@peoplescom.net (Tommy Stephenson)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
>To: SCYORK-L@rootsweb.com
>From: tdstepen@peoplescom.net (Tommy Stephenson)
>Subject: Jamison Barron
>
>
>Can someone who has the Barron book please check to see if Jamison Barron is mentioned in the book and who his parents were.
>Thanks Tom Stephenson
>
>
>Samuel Hillhouse and Anthony Hall. signed Jamison Barron,witnessed William
>Hillhouse,John Hillhouse. Dower of release of Margaret Barron,wife of
>Jameson Barron,Jan 25,1822.Pendleton County,S.C.
>
>1790 York Co. census:
>page col #
>029 3 10 HALL John 1 1 5 0 0
>028 1 17 HALL Prucence 3 2 4 0 1
>028 3 7 HALL William 4 1 3 0 0
>030 3 68 MINTER William 3 7 4 0 0
>030 2 53 HILLHOUSE John 1 2 4 0 1
>030 2 83 HILLHOUSE John 3 5 4 0 0
>030 2 62 LEECH David 3 4 3 0 4
>030 2 70 LEECH Joseph 2 0 1 0 0
>
>030 3 22 JAMISON Jason 1 2 2 0 0
>028 2 92 JAMISON Patrick 1 2 3 0 0
>028 3 72 BARRON Abraham 1 2 4 0 0
>028 1 9 BARRON Archibald 2 0 1 0 0
>028 1 10 BARRON John 2 0 5 0 0
>028 1 30 STEPHENSON Alexander 1 4 5 0 0
>030 1 6 STEPHENSON David 1 4 2 0 0
>028 1 24 STEPHENSON Hugh 1 0 5 0 0
>028 1 25 STEPHENSON Hugh, Jr. 1 0 1 0 0
>028 1 22 STEPHENSON John 2 1 4 0 0
>031 1 3 STEPHENSON Robert 1 1 3 0 0
>028 1 23 STEPHENSON Wiliam 2 3 4 0 0
>
>The above was sent to me by Larry Clayton who was related to the Leech Family.
Date: 4/15/2000 12:28:16 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
Playing around one night I found this file. Decided to clear out some papers and in reading over all I had copied found the following:
Barron, John PVT, C 07-04-1863 10 -24-1863 Hawthorns Arkansas Infantry Helena, Arkansas Smallpox
Smallpox Island
Barrow, William SGT, C 07-04-1863 12-27-1863
10th Missouri Helena, Arkansas ?
State Ground
The W. is not a mistake, spelled that way.
Note: Smallpox Island was an Island in the Mississippi River, across from the prison where up to 300 prisoners and soldiers died and are buried. It was the location of a quarantine hospital. Could be the answer to why some people have problems locating burial sites for confederate soldiers. The above 2 Barron' s are on the list.
I am not sure how are where I found this, probably looking under Illinois for something, unrelated. Anyway if interested you might be able to access from the following:
http://www.altonweb.com/history/civilwar/confed/index.html or
http://www.altonweb.com/history/civilwar/links.html
There is a history and numerous topics of great interest in these files.
Pat
Date: 4/16/2000 1:51:10 PM Central Daylight Time
From: sarchet@texasonline.net (Donna Sarchet)
Reply-to: sarchet@texasonline.net
To: DRREESE66@aol.com
CC: JBarron933@aol.com
Hi, Dave--
I've been reading with interest your messages on the Garrard letter. I think that discussing this letter via the Barron Circle would be a good idea--someone else out there may have more comments and analyses to add to what we have.
However, I noticed your letter (which I quoted below) went to John and copies were sent to me and your sister Betty; I don't think it circulated via the list. I'm preparing a response/added comments to the items you've articulately discussed below, and I'm planning to send my message to John to post to the list. My question: Do you mind if I quote parts or all of your message below in my response? I ask because I didn't want to publicly quote a private message.
Thanks for all your efforts on helping sort out our interesting Barron line.
Donna
P.S. I too have a copy of the Garrard letter (typescript version my father got at a 1960s family reunion). I will be happy to help you type part of it and/or help proofread. However, it will be a couple of weeks before I could do much to help (work is really busy at this time).
Date: 4/16/2000 9:13:51 PM Central Daylight Time
From: joechandler@yahoo.com (Joe Chandler)
To: JBarron933@aol.com, BarronCircle
JAMISON BARRON is NOT named in the John Barron Book of 1927. Check with JOHN INGRAM BARRON in York to find out if he has found him and added him to the York County family's data base, which I assume he still maintains.
Joseph Barron Chandler, Jr.
Date: 4/16/2000 11:57:00 PM Central Daylight Time
From: sarchet@texasonline.net (Donna Sarchet)
To: DRREESE66@aol.com
CC: bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net, JBarron933@aol.com, barde@bellsouth.net
Hi, Dave--
I received a message right before yours from John Barron:
"Donna, I sent the message to the group. I just didn't include you since you had been copied on the original. . . . "
Thus, your previous message to John (copied to Betty and me) about the Garrard letter did indeed go to the whole list.
You asked about the will of John Garrard; yes, I do have a copy of both the handwritten court record and a typed, transcribed copy. These were sent to me just last week by Vicki Barron Kruschwitz. I'm planning to post it to the Jones Co., GA wills page on Genconnect if that's OK with Vicki.
In answer to your question, here's the paragraph about the cloak (using the same spelling, lack of punctuation, etc.):
[Item 3]
"I give unto my son Henry my grown mare one saddle and bridle and my plad cloak which is worth one hundred and twenty five Dollars, together with a bed and furniture or thirty Dollars in money when he becomes of age."
Note: Henry is underage, as is Milton (named as "my youngest son"). Married sons (six) and married daus. (two) are named. Thus, the cloak appears to have gone to the second-youngest son. In reading all the provisions of the will, it appears to me that John Garrard was trying to provide equally for his children. He states in Item 1 that the married children (named) received $125 when they married, and he wanted the younger children to be "made equal with them" before the married children are to receive anything else.
Also, no other clothing is mentioned, but, if taken at face value, the cloak could well be the only item of clothing worth anything monetarily. The only other personal bequest was to Milton, who received a shot gun, $100 cash, one bed and furniture or $30 "together with the $100 appropriated for the use of his board and schooling."
Wife Frankey (Frances) got everything else, except for the oxcart, clock, and rife along with "all five tools", which were to be sold to pay debts.
You also asked about my copy of the Garrard letter. First, my letter doesn't mention anything about Petrona Hean. However, you have just solved a mystery in my research. I have 3 of 4 pages (all but the last page) of a letter written in 1924 by Mrs. Frank Hean to the GA Archives. I found this letter under "Barron" in the Vertical Files at the Archives back in 1991. I had gathered she descended from Elizabeth Barron and Jacob Garrard, but I didn't know her given name or who she was. I remember a PA address on the letter (I will have to re-locate my copies).
Second, my letter is a clean, typed transcription (a little over five regular 8 1/2 X 11" size) of an original letter written my John Davis Garrard of East Lake, AL to "Honorable J. D. Barron, Sec. of State of Alabama." [My father received a "Barron notebook" of information circa 1969 at a family reunion; these copies were included.]
From JDG's (John Davis Garrard) response, it appears that J.D. Barron had written and asked how his line fit into the Barron family. JDG was responding that the given names sent by J.D. Barron (names like Samuel, Hiram, William, Garrard, Jacob) didn't fit with Samuel Barron's (m. Joanna Braswell) line, but rather sounded more like those of John Barron (m. Frances Garrard) [they were]. The date of the letter is 18 Aug 1892.
This letter is accompanied by a 1966 notarized statement by Mrs. Newt Etheridge of Jackson, Butts Co., GA, stating that "I have thoroughly examined the foregoing copy of the above mentioned Garrard letter which is attached to this affidavit. I have compared the attached copy with the copy in my possession, and I hereby attest to the fact that it is a true copy of the original letter which I examined and made my copy from many years ago."
She earlier states in the affidavit that she has in her possession the old William Barron (Jr.) family Bible, copies of the family pages which reside in the GA Archives. She also states that "as late as the year 1924 the original letter was in the possession of Miss Theodora Barron, who then resided at 9 North Jackson Street, Montgomery, Alabama; however, I have no idea where the original letter might be at this time if, in fact, it is still in existence."
Regarding the family Bible, it (William, Jr's), his son Henry's (Henry Barron m. 1st Elizabeth Strickland), and Henry's son's Bibles were all microfilmed in the 1960s by the GA Archives and are catalogued as "the Barron Collection." On my trip to the Archives in 1991, I made copies of the Bible pages from microfilm.
Sidenote: This particular Strickland family also interests me because Elizabeth Strickland's father, Isaac Strickland, was a native of Edgecombe Co., NC, prior to moving to Franklin and later Butts Co., GA. In addition, there is a Henry Strickland witnessing a Cash/Barron deed in Pendleton Dist, SC (a Cash also married a dau. of Samuel Barron and Jane Miller in Hancock Co., GA). Also, Stricklands were close associates of the Bond family of Beaufort/Craven Counties, NC and later Hancock Co., GA. However, I do not know if these Strickland references are all to the same family.
Regarding my comments to your earlier post on the Garrard letter, I will take your suggestion to wait until you post your version of the Garrard letter. I am, however, in the process of writing my impressions of the Garrard letter, etc., an epistle (i.e., of my opinion) which keeps growing in length <g>. (I'm afraid I've never been a concise person.)
I look forward to your Garrard letter post.
Donna
DRREESE66@aol.com wrote:
>
> Donna-I suggest you wait until the letter gets posted and then make your
> comments. It is my hope that several will make comments and it will be
> easier for all if the comments can be compared to the full letter. My
> version is 7 legal pages doubled spaced. Last night, I typed two pages and
> believe I will type the rest in maybe two sittings. If I can do half
> tonight, I should get it all done by midweek. I will attach it to an e-mail
> to John and he can then post it, presumably by next weekend. I also will
> prepare a list of comments-those already sent to John and a few more. I
> assume your copy is cleaner than mine. It looks like at some point a poor
> copier was used and now the darkened background is getting worse with each
> copy. Does your version say it is a copy sent to Petrona Garrard Humber Hean
> in 1924? This was extremely interesting to me, since I have a letter
> (original) Petrona wrote, also in 1924, to my great aunt requesting some
> genealogy information, which she says is for the purpose of "securing the
> necessary data for additional D.A.R. line of our Roquemore ancestry." She
> said she had just learned that Peter Roquemore was in the Revolution and said
> she was named for Peter Garrard who must have been named for this Peter
> Roquemore. She wanted confirmation that the veteran Peter was the father of
> Mary Anne Roquemore Garrard's father (he was). (As I believe I told you, I
> have two Barron connections, both females, who initially came into the
> Roquemore and Garrard families.) Based on her also gathering Barron info, it
> sounds like she was trying to get DAR recognition for all her Revolutionary
> ancestors. Petrona was living in Norristown, PA when she wrote the letter.
> This is the county seat for the county I live in, in fact, I drove through
> there a few hours ago. I have checked, but find noone living in the area
> with her married name (Hean). It has always intrigued me that the letter was
> written to Georgia and I brought it back to within a few miles of its origin.
> Well, as usual, I wandered off. Anyway, if you want to post your comments
> immediately, do so. Thanks for the offer to help. As indicated, I will get
> it done soon. I hope my spell checker will handle most typos, I am sure
> people will comment if they see something. I am typing it as my "original"
> is typed and it does have some grammar faults, so I will explain that when I
> post it. My general conclusion at this time is that the letter carries more
> authenticity than Leon chooses to give it. I certainly will state that I
> believe it provides a reasonable case for concluding William/Prudence came
> from Ireland and that he was beheaded in Augusta. But, it is also obvious
> that Barrons and a Prudence Davis lived in New Bern and that the Barron male
> names imply that there is a relationship.
> Do you have a copy of John Barron's (son of William/Prudence) will in which
> the cloak is mentioned? If so, I would like to know exactly how it is
> phrased and to whom he left it.
> (I have only seen an abstract.) Regards, Dave
Date: 4/17/2000 5:04:48 PM Central Daylight Time
From: jmc@centex.net (Joyce McMurray)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, I recieved a Newspaper Abstracts Jasper Co. Today...These items;
7 may 1827
Notice.All person are hereby cautioned from trading for a bond by the subscriber to Thomas Camp, three tracts of land...14th dist now DeKalb Co...7th dist Henry Co...66 acres of land on the old boundary of Jasper Co. adj.. William Barron and Lewis Hogg...signed James L. and Moses Trimble...
9 May 1833
Headquarters,5ht Division, G.M......vise Major Thomas G.Barron ...
My question does anyone on the list have any information on these two Barron Men......My John Barron was in Jasper Co. before going to Carroll Co.GA.
Date: 4/17/2000 6:01:23 PM Central Daylight Time
From: notwerb@bellsouth.net
To: om@airmail.net (BrendaSpurlock), MYSEAGA@aol.com, YukiYama2@aol.com, JBarron933@aol.com, bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net
Brenda,
After reading your note to John regarding James A.& John W. Barron, I wondered if there could possibly be a connection to my gg grandfather Joseph M. Barron. He lived in Barbour Co. Al. during the 1840s. My g grandmother, Nancy Elizabeth Barron was born there in 1847. Several other siblings were also born there, including a brother, John W. Barron around 1845. I recently got information on my line from John Barron's web site. Perhaps you saw it also.
I am curious as to whether my gg grandfather Joseph M. Barron and John W. Barron could be brothers. If so, is James A. Barron related also? I don't have a birth date for Joseph M., but he evidently died before the 1860 census in Pike Co. Al. because his oldest son is listed as head of household. My gg grandmother, Sabre Bryant Barron is part of the household as are the other children, including John W. Barron at age 15.
If you have any ideas that could help me I would appreciate the help. So far, I am stumped and cannot get beyond my gg grandfather Joseph M. Barron and my gg grandmother Sabre Bryant Barron.
Thanks, Warren Brewton
Date: 4/17/2000 7:46:35 PM Central Daylight Time
From: bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net (Bob Kruschwitz)
To: sarchet@texasonline.net, DRREESE66@aol.com
CC: JBarron933@aol.com, barde@bellsouth.net
Donna,
You mentioned posting the John Barron will (misstated 'John Garrard will') on the Jones County Genconnect page. Of course that is fine with me. I was lucky enough to receive those copies from other Barron researchers over the years.
A perhaps interesting note about the "plad cloak". I have some letters written by Thomas Willis Barron of Newnan, GA in the late 1970s to John Wilkins (of Smith County, TX). In one, he writes: "A Mrs. Dillahunty told me that the plaid cloak mentioned in John's will was made from Fitzgerald plaid cloth brought by Capt. Wm Barron from Ireland. It remained in the family for some time, but no one knows its whereabouts now." He gives Mrs. Dillahunty's full name and address. In a later letter, Barron wonders about Mrs. Dillahunty's sources.
This was my only experience with the idea that the cloak could have been William Barron's. And now Dave mentions a tradition that the cloak was Barron's. I would like to learn more about where that tradition arose.
I will be interested in seeing Dave's transcript of the Garrard letter. (It is amazing that so many versions seem to exist!). My version was copied in 1961 by Vera Jones Edwards-Martin for Lazell Houck from Mrs. Newt Ethredge's 1949 copy . Mrs. Houck then indicated that she made corrections from grave stones at Watt Field, Dennis, GA, old Garrard cemetery. There are also indications of corrections by Mrs. Hean. The letter is prefaced with the statement "EXCERPTS from letter giving data follows." The letter is a little over four pages typed, single spaced. I am hoping Dave's version is complete.
I have a second document that you all likely already have, called "The Barron Family of Warren County, Georgia, and Descendants" from the GA Archives. It is four single-spaced, typed pages, with a handwritten note at the bottom, "from Mrs. Frank R. Hean..." with her PA address, and a date of 1928. Either this second document was also written by John Davis Garrard, or includes portions of the Garrard letter not in my excerpted version. For example, under the section on William Barron, Jr., the statement "I was present at his death and burial .... We always called his wife Aunt Patty."
I also have a third document which appears to be inspired by John Davis Garrard, but seems to be less well-known, found in the papers of Sanford P. Barron, a grandson of William Barron Jr's. son, James. It gives some of the history of "Captain" William Barron, with details not in my previous two documents -- such as Barron's capture, with specifics of his torture after being tied and stretched between two trees and his escape to fight again; and of the retaliation against the Indians by Barron's grandson for their role in Captain Barron's death. I believe this information may have originated with Garrard because most of the descendants of William Barron listed in Sanford Barron's document follow the Garrard line rather than Sanford Barron's own line through William Jr. Though younger than Garrard, Sanford Barron was a contemporary (b. 1844), a minister who lived in AL.
I look forward to some discussion about the Garrard letter versus the possible Craven County origin of this Barron line. Thanks to Dave for sparking this dialog!
Vicki
Date: 4/18/2000 1:48:40 AM Central Daylight Time
From: sarchet@texasonline.net (Donna Sarchet)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hi, John--
I'm still working at getting my ducks in a row (hopefully they won't be shot at too forcefully) before posting to the Circle. As I indicated earlier, I'm waiting on Dave Reese to post his version of the Garrard letter before responding. In the meantime, I've been trying to track down more Barron/Davis associates.
I thought I would forward the below item to you so you could see the tentative direction of my research efforts on the Capt. William Barron saga.
You know, a really odd part of this whole thing is that there really was a documented Capt. William Barron at the Battle of Augusta. He's the one married to Sarah Brumette (who lived into the early 1860s) and who is buried in Burke Co., GA (adjoining county to Richmond Co., where Augusta is). He is an honest-to-goodness Irish immigrant. He also had a son named William and received a govt. commendation for his valor in War (in 1789, as memory serves, which was way after Prudence Davis Barron was a widow).
I can't help but wonder if John Davis Garrard somehow got these two Capt. William Barrons' lives mixed up (and added the beheading story for good measure). If not, one has to wonder just how many heroic Capt. William Barrons were present at the Battle of Augusta.
Also, a short version of my epistle on the Garrard letter and Dave's recent posts includes these points (which I'm still developing):
1) Garrard never stated in his letter that he had interviewed his great-uncle William Barron, Jr. (m. Martha Smith). He merely said he was in contact with him until he (Garrard) was 21 (at which time William Barron died in 1848). Also, Garrard's grandmother, Elizabeth Barron Garrard, died when her son, Hiram Garrard (father of John Davis Garrard, from whom he said he got much of his information), was 18. Both of the other Barron uncles of Hiram Barron died in the 1820s as did their sister Elizabeth. (John Davis Garrard was b. 1827).
2) Old GA newspapers which have been abstracted (Savannah comes to mind) to date are not known to have reported the torture/beheading of anyone at the Battle of Augusta (upon checking the indexes for "Barron"). Letters by Barron researchers to the historical society at Augusta receive responses that they (the historical society) have never heard of the beheading story prior to hearing from Barron researchers. (Surely the historians and newspapers of the time would have noted/lauded/martyrized this hero at the Battle of Augusta who was tortured, beheaded, and his head impaled?)
3) And--if we're going to bring up secondary evidence--there's the 1895 mug biography in "Memoirs of Georgia" of the highly educated, wealthy, and esteemed Dr. James F. Barron of Clinton, Jones Co., GA (grandson of James Barron and Joanna Braswell). He was a great-grandson of Prudence as was John Davis Garrard (my point: both men were equally related to Prudence and both men gave their stories in the mid 1890s).
As I know I've mentioned before (but I'm on a roll now), Dr. James F. Barron's (b. 1825) sketch stated his great-grandfather (not named) "was a native Irishman, who came to this country in colonial days, and settled in Maryland. From Maryland, the family moved to VA, where the doctor's grandfather, Samuel Barron married and went to NC where he lived until about 1792 when he migrated to GA, and settled in Hancock Co. In 1809 his grandfather moved into Jones Co., then just organized, and settled about 6 miles north of what is now Clinton, the county seat. . . ."
Do I think all of the above sketch is accurate? No. I question the 1792 arrived in Hancock and the location of Samuel's marriage. I also think he is likely a generation off on the immigrant ancestor. However, in a mug biography, wouldn't that have been an ideal time to mention your heroic, legendary great-grandfather, Capt. William Barron, who was beheaded at nearby Augusta during the War? Instead, no mention is made of this event. [Unlike another ancestor of mine, Capt. Henry Bishop, who died at the Battle of Hanging Rock in SC near Charlotte(NC). Every interview his brothers and children gave (including the Draper Papers) and his brothers' Rev. Ward pension applications and published obituaries mention Capt. Henry Bishop's heroic death.]
Also, who is more believable here (secondarily speaking)--Dr. James F. Barron who states the family went from Ireland>MD>VA>NC>GA, or his second cousin, John Davis Garrard, who states the family came ca. 1760 from Ireland directly to GA (no reference at all to NC). [Garrard also stated in his letter that his Garrard family came directly to SC and then to GA. Wrong. They were much earlier in Stafford Co., VA and migrated to Union Dist, SC, prior to moving to Wilkes Co., GA.]
4) Then we have the tentative connections to Craven Co., NC.
First, James Smith, a neighbor of Prudence Davis Barron's in Wilkes Co., GA, was an in-law of Prudence's. Two of his children married two of her children. James Smith (along with the Rice and Foster families) are documented as being former residents of Craven Co., NC, prior to moving to GA. [Interestingly, a Rice witnesses a deed for Thomas Barron of Edgecombe Co., NC, prior to Thomas' move to Wilkes Co., GA.]
Second, "a" William Barron owned land near the area of the Neuse River where the Smith, Rice, Foster families lived in Craven Co.
Third, a Thomas Davis left by 1746 an orphan Prudence Davis in Craven Co. "Thomas" is a given name used by some of Prudence's sons (it is not a Smith or Garrard name).
Fourth, some of the associates of the older William Barron (father of Capt. William) in Craven Co. (there were two William Barrons, actually; they could have been father/son due to ages) have the same surnames appear in Wilkes Co., GA (see Graves post below).
5) We know that Samuel Barron (m. Joanna Braswell) was at the Battle of Guilford Courthouse in NC during the Rev. War. (I don't claim to be a Rev. War expert, but wouldn't the troops at the Battle of Guilford Courthouse likely have come from NC? If so, wouldn't Samuel Barron have likely signed up for service in the same state as his father? I have wondered if Capt. William(??) Barron died in service(???) in NC and thus never made it to GA.)
Quote from obituary abstract:
BARRON, Capt Samuel, b. 1766, died today at his residence in Jones Co. Ga., 6/06/1826. A Revolutionary Soldier who fought at Battle of Guilford Courthouse. He left a widow and a number of children. SF 7/11/1826 [Source: SOME SOUTH CAROLINA RECORDS; VOL. 2] [Note: I find it interesting that Capt. Samuel Barron's obituary was in both SC and GA newspapers.]
Well, that's it for the short version(ha!). Please don't copy this message or circulate it. I want to soften my approach and avoid offending anyone.
Thanks for listening and allowing me to organize my thoughts a bit more!
Donna
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:32:38 -0700
From: Donna Sarchet <sarchet@texasonline.net>
To: graves-L@rootsweb.com
CC: bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net, kensmith@flash.net
Subject: Richard Graves--Craven Co., NC--1750's
Kenneth V. Smith:
I am a Barron/Davis researcher who has encountered a possible connection in NC and GA with a Richard Graves (mid- to late-1700s). I noted with interest one of your posts to the Graves list back in 1998 (accessed via a search of the list archives). I am hoping you can help me identify a Richard Graves who was involved with the Davis and Barron families I am researching. (I have quoted at the end of this message a portion of your 1998 post.)
The Richard Graves I am interested in appears in Craven Co., NC, records as early as the 1750s. Here are a few of his appearances (and other Graves references):
1) 1758--Richard Greaves[sic], William Barron, and John Turner witnessed a land transaction between Uriah Lambertson and Christopher Dawson.
2) 1768--Richard Graves and John Turner witnessed a sale of land by William Barron
3) In the loose estate papers for Craven Co., the earliest Barron file is for David Barron. His 1776 will (probated in 1784) names two children: Samuel Graves Barron and Elizabeth Barron. In the same loose papers box is the folder for Samuel G. Barron (will probated 1807). It mentions "Mary Ann his maternal half sister and Elizabeth wife of John C. Osborn his sister of the whole blood." Also mentioned in the papers is David Barron, his father. Filing for some of the estate was Priscilla Montfort and Henry Montfort.
We have wondered if David Barron (whom we think is likely a son of William Barron) was married to a dau. of Richard Graves (who probably was married previously before marrying David Barron).
Another William Barron (b. ca. 1730s), who may be?? a son of the elder William Barron [and thus brother to David who married(?) a dau. of Richard Graves(??)], was married to Prudence Davis (b. ca. 1735).
4) "Mr. Graves" was a buyer in 1760 at the estate sale of Moses Davis (possibly a brother to Prudence (Davis) Barron). Other buyers at this estate sale were William Barron and Uriah Lamberson.
Note: "A" Prudence Davis was the orphan of Thomas Davis (entry made 1746 in Craven Co.). She appears to have possibly had a brother, Thomas Davis (m. Mary White, dau. of Robert White of Craven Co.).
By 1785 (probably was in GA much earlier), Prudence Davis Barron is widowed and is paying taxes on land in Wilkes Co., GA (not proven to be the same Prudence Davis in Craven Co., NC). An adjoining landowner to her is Aaron Lipham. [Another resident of Wilkes Co., GA, James Smith, was a native of Craven Co., NC. Two of his children married two of the children of Prudence Davis Barron. Another of James Smith's children married into the White family of Wilkes, who had previously resided in Bertie Co., NC.]
I noticed that in your 1998 message (see below), a Lipham was a landowner adjoining Robert Graves in 1771 (I take it this was Craven Co.--SC?).
I also noticed that a Thomas Davis witnessed the Rev. War pension applications of the Lewis Graves and Richard Graves you mentioned in your post.
Also, there is a Richard Graves in early Wilkes Co., GA tax records (Wilkes Co. is just across the river from Pendleton Dist., SC).
Here's what I'm wondering:
1) Does the Richard Graves in Craven Co., NC, records or the Richard Graves in Wilkes Co., GA connect with the Graves line you write about below? (Or can anyone on the list tell me who these men are?)
2) Do you have any further information on the Lipham neighbor to your Robert Graves or to the Thomas Davis who witnessed the Rev. War pension applications of the Graves men referenced above?
3) Do you know where the Graves family resided (VA?) prior to appearances in early NC records?
I would greatly appreciate any information on any of these items.
Donna Sarchet
Plainview, Tx
> A memorial exhibited by Robert Graves for a tract of land containing 25 acres in Craven County on the north side of Great Pee
> Dee adjoining Lipham, Husband, Wise and Claudius Pegues, certified 7 November 1770, granted 15 March 1771. Robert Graves sold
> this land to James Blanton on 1 July 1772. However, it is now 250 acres rather than 25. One or the other record may be in
> error.
>
> A memorial exhibited by Robert Graves for 150 acres on Thompson Creek, waters of Pee Dee, bounded by vacant sides. Surveyed 1
> October 1771, granted 28 November 1771. Thompson Creek runs through the southern part of Anson County, North Carolina into
> Chesterfield County, South Carolina and then to the Great Pee Dee River. This is the area where Richard Graves remained. His
> brother, Lewis Graves, went to Georgia about 1791, and then to Tennessee.
>
> Richard Graves had both a niece and a cousin named Malinda Graves. I believe that he is the father of Malinda Graves Godwin.
> Richard Graves is the uncle of Davenport Graves of Dallas County, Alabama.
> Source: "Robert Graves of Anson County, N. C. and Chesterfield County, S. C. Ancestors and Descendants (ca. 1580 - 1979)," by
> Kenneth Vance Graves, Gateway Press, Inc., Baltimoe, Maryland,1980.
>
> This was the ONLY Graves family in Chesterfield County, South Carolina when Wells Godwin married Malinda Graves about 1831.
> They had to be in the same place at the same time to have married. We have documentation that Wells and brother John Godwin
> were there at this time.
>
> Richard Graves is listed in the Federal census of Chesterfield County, Cheraw District, South Carolina in 1790 and 1800 and in
> Anson County, North Carolina in 1810, 1820 and 1830. His pension application (S-8598) was made in 1832 from Chesterfield
> County, South Carolina. There are many deeds in Anson County, North Carolina for Richard Graves up to 1832 on Thompson Creek,
> Cedar Creek and Muddy Creek. Richard Graves was a "messenger" in 1803 from Deep Creek Baptist Church, Chesterfield County,
> South Carolina.
>
> Richard Graves. (Pension Number S8598) While residing in Chesterfield District, he was drafted into service during 1779/1780
> under Captain Benjamin Hendricks and Major Lloyd. Next, he was under Captain Tristram Thomas and Colonel Horry and was in the
> battle at Pocotaligo. Next, he was under Captain Thomas Ellerbee and Generals McIntosh and Sinckhorn. He was taken prisoner in
> the fall of Charleston. After being paroled, he entered service under Captain Ellerbee and General Marion. Later, he served
> under Captain Morris Murphy and General Marion. Next, he served under Lieutenant Charles Jackson and General Marion. Later, he
> served under Captain Brockinton and was still in the militia during 1782.
> Source: "Roster of South Carolina Patriots in the American Revolution," by Bobby Gilmer Moss, Genealogical Publishing Co.,
> Baltimoe, Maryland,1985.
>
> Richard Graves was born 30 December 1765 according to his pension application. He lived in South Carolina and North Carolina
> and served in the Revolution (pension application S-8598). Richard Graves declared in the pension application of Lewis Graves
> (his brother) that they served together. Richard signed the stub of intent in South Carolina (South Carolina Archives). He
> entered the service from Chesterfield County, South Carolina and said he lived very close to the North Carolina line at the
> time. His father told him he entered the service when he was 15 years, 2 months of age, around 1779 or 1780. His service was
> witnessed by Thomas Davis, who also was a witness for the application of Lewis Graves.
Date: 4/18/2000 3:31:14 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
You probably already have all this but, though maybe someone else could use it.
KENTUCKY:
John Barron - Pulaski County - Private, Virginia Militia - $26.66 Annual Allowance - $79.98 Amount Received - July 18, 1834 - Pension started: Age 84
William Barron - Pulaski County - Private, North Carolina State Troops $33.33 Annual Allowance - $99.99 Amount Received - October 11, 1833 Pension Started: Age 72
VIRGINIA:
William Barron - Washington County - Private, North Carolina Line - $28.33 Annual Allow. $84.99 Amount Received - February 20, 1833 - Pension started: Age 79
GEORGIA:
Thomas Barron - Jackson County - Private, North Carolina Militia $30.00 Annual Allow. $90.00 Amount Received - February 23, 1833 - Pension started: Age 67
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA:
James Barren - Washington County - Midshipman, US Navy - $144 Annual Amount received, January 14, 1834 - Pension started transferred to (it didn't say)
LOUISIANA:
Fielding Barram - Feliciana Parish - Sergeant, Virginia Continental $9600 Annual Allowance $218.00 Amount Received - August 30, 1824 - Pension started: Age 66
RE: 1870 Census for LA - at least Jackson Parish or Ouachita, I have my sister looking through the Middleton information Mom left to see if she has the Miller's or Middleton for that period of time. They were all related and lived on connecting farms and the Middleton Plantation, so Mom called it. They had 600 acres and worth $12,000 in 1800, so must have been pretty well off. Anyway, will let you know what she comes up with.
Pat
Date: 4/19/2000
To: jmc@centex.net
CC: Barron Circle
In a message dated 4/17/2000 5:04:48 PM Central Daylight Time, jmc@centex.net writes:
<< John, I received a Newspaper Abstracts Jasper Co. Today...
These items; 7 may 1827
Notice. All person are hereby cautioned from trading for a bond by the subscriber to Thomas Camp, three tracts of land...14th dist now DeKalb Co...7th dist Henry Co...66 acres of land on the old boundary of Jasper Co. adj.. William Barron and Lewis Hogg...signed James L. and Moses Trimble...
9 May 1833
Headquarters, 5ht Division, G.M......vise Major Thomas G. Barron ...
My question does anyone on the list have any information on these two Barron Men......My John Barron was in Jasper Co. before going to Carroll Co.GA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Joyce, I don't have any info on them. Maybe someone can help.
John
Date: 4/19/2000 10:08:13 AM Central Daylight Time
From: jguest@alltel.net (jguest)
To: JBarron933@aol.com (John Barron)
Dear John,
As you know, I am not even a Barron descendant, just looking for HILLEY-BARRONS for the Hilley book. "My" Barrons are all desc. from Barnabus and Polly Dooly and therefore apparently not connected with the Barrons who have (1) an ancestor who was beheaded in Augusta and (2) a "plad cloke" that was passed down through the generations.
However, I have read all these transmissions with great interest and can't restrain myself from asking a question -- was he beheaded by accident or murdered or (?) executed (?). Never in the annals of GA have I read of an execution by the axe -- this falls under the headings "curiosity" and "none of my business" but I am asking anyway --
Always, Nancy Guest
Date: 4/20/2000
To: jguest@alltel.net
Donna Sarchet is in the process of preparing an in-depth analysis of whole matter and should prove interesting. There possibly was a Capt. William Barron at the Battle of Augusta, but not the one that married Prudence Davis. I think the story of his being beheaded, however, is an unsubstantiated legend and never happened. Stay tuned.
John
Date: 4/19/2000 10:56:12 AM Central Daylight Time
From: nancy_wood@email.msn.com (nancy_wood)
To: jbarron933@aol.com (John Barron)
Hi John,
I have been following with interest, the latest posts to the Barron List. I still think it likely that my Margaret b. 1805 NC/SC was a sister to Elijah Barron. Margaret & Richard Edmondson were living 2 hh's from Elijah in 1834 Union Co, GA. I am a desc. of their son, John Quincy "Quince" Edmondson, who went to Benton Co, AR, after the Civil War. Both J.Q. & Mary Ann Day Edmondson are buried in the Barron Cemetery in Vaughn, Benton Co, AR. So, this connection seems to have persisted.
I hate to add any more confusion, but the Edmondsons are linked to Barrons in several instances. The progenitor of the EDMs was Ths., who left a 1715 will in Essex Co, VA. Several of his desc's were in early Edgecombe Co, NC. A son, Jos. EDM m.2 Priscilla Graves & had John EDM., a resident of Newbern, Craven Co, NC.
It is presumed that John EDM m. Mary Barrington, since he was one of the exrs. of the 1768 estate of her presumed father, Isaac BARRINGTON, & he named a son "Isaac". John spent some time in SC & then moved on to upper GA @1790's, with his son, Isaac. John EDM divided his NC estate between son, Bryant, & his (John's) 2 daus., when he moved. Mary Barrington seems to have d. before then & John may have been m. a couple more times. (Note: I have also seen the Barrington name written as "BARRONTON".)
John's son, Isaac EDM (d. 1810 Savannah, GA, where he had gone to seek medical treatment), m. Anne Cox & had John T. EDM (1806-1863), who m. Martha STRICKLAND. There is another possible connection. An early GA Bible record lists the m. of a Brasswell to a John EDM, whom we have never been able to identify. This could possibly have been a 2nd m. of John EDM, Sr. Does anyone have more info on these connections?
Nancy Edmondson Wood
Date: 4/19/2000 8:51:40 PM Central Daylight Time
From: orn@airmail.net (Brenda Spurlock)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
CC: Barron Circle
Hi Warren,
We haven't firmly established where in Alabama John W. Barron (1824) was born or whether James A. Barron (1800) SC is his father as we suspect. Until those loose ends are tied up, other Alabama connections will remain elusive. John had children born in Tippah Co., MS, in the mid to late 1840's before coming to Arkansas. To my knowledge neither James nor John named sons Joseph. I'll report in to the Barron circle with any new information.
Best wishes, Brenda Spurlock
Date: 4/21/2000 9:54:52 AM Central Daylight Time
From: DRREESE66
To: JBarron933
CC: barde@bellsouth.net, sarchet@texasonline.net
CC: bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net
East Lake, Alabama
August 18, 1892
Honorable J. D. Barron
Secretary of State of Alabama
Dear Sir:
Your communication came to hand in due time but up to the present time, I have been so unwell that I have not felt like replying. I am satisfied that your father was not a son of Samuel Barron, but a son of his brother, John. The names of your father and his brothers, to my mind plainly indicate this.
I have all the names of Samuel Barron's heirs and they do not correspond at all with those of your father and his brothers, nor was there, I think, any other Samuel Barron in that portion of eastern and middle Georgia old enough to be the father of your father. My father, Hiram Garrard has an uncle Sam Barron and a cousin Sam Barron. Of the latter I have heard him speak as if he had been with him frequently. And, I am tolerable sure that I have heard him speak of his cousin Hiram Barron.
When, in my youth, I commenced to keep a record of my foreparents, I designed keeping but little more than an account of my ancestors in a direct line down to myself. My father told me a good deal about his kin folks, and proposed at the time I was writing down many things, to give me the names of his Garrard and Barron relatives. I only wrote down a few of their names then, but after his death in 1871, I commenced keeping a record of names and facts that I could recollect and gather from others. This will serve to explain to you the reason that I can give so complete an account of some of the families while I know so little of others of the same household.
I will commence back with two brothers, John Barron, Sr., and William Barron, Sr., of Ireland; which is as far back as I can trace the history of the Barrons on my ancestors side.
John Barron, Sr. was an old bachelor, and came to America some years before his brother, William, for he had returned to Ireland several times on visits before he persuaded William to come with him. My father told me that he did not know what became of him. It is probable that he was killed in the Revolutionary war and left no heirs. If he was ever married and left heirs they were not, I think in the middle or eastern part of Georgia, among the other Barrons, for my father was well acquainted in all that portion of the state and knew nothing of any Barrons other than the descendents of William Barron, Sr. Nor did he ever meet any Barrons in the western part of Georgia or in Alabama whose ancestors he could not readily trace back to William Barron. Nevertheless, it is possible that there were others in that part of Georgia.
William Barron, Sr. of Ireland and his children, are Capt. William Barron of Warren County, Georgia, and his children. About 1762 (or 1760) as near as I can ascertain William Barron, Sr., and Prudence Davis were married in Ireland. Two or three of their children were born in Ireland. About 1766, I estimate they came to America and settled in Warren County, Georgia. William Barron served as Captain in the Revolutionary war and was at Augusta, Georgia and fell into the hands of the Tories, and was through their instigation beheaded by the Indians. They then placed his head in the center of the city where it remained until the Whigs recaptured the city about three weeks afterwards. He was hated by the British and the Tories for his bold and daring attacks on them. Therefore, they had previously offered a considerable reward for him. Hence, the cruel act of theirs. The widow, Prudy Davis Barron died in Warren County, Georgia as late as 1815 to 1820. The heirs of Captain William Barron of Warren County, Georgia were:
1. John Barron, Jr. probably born in Ireland about 1763 or 1765
2. Elizabeth Barron, about April 1766
3. William Barron, Jr. born in Warren County, Georgia, June, 1767
4. Samuel Barron, Warren County, July 4, 1768
Elizabeth was about the third and John was the first or second, but I am not sure John was older than the other three. He may have been younger than Samuel and born in America. He did not come between the other three.
I think that John, William were the sons that left heirs, at least in that section of Georgia. There were probable from two to four more daughters.
JOHN BARRON, JR. OF JONES COUNTY, GEORGIA
John Barron, Jr. of Jones County, Georgia, a son of Captain William Barron of Warren County, Georgia, and was most likely born in Ireland but grew to manhood in Warren, County, Georgia. I guess that if older than Elizabeth, he was married at about 1788 or 1790. He married a daughter of John Garrard of Wilked County, Georgia. He settled most likely at first in Warren County, though not unlikely in an adjoining county to Warren farther west than Hancock. In 1805 and 1806, there seemed to be a general breaking up and moving west to newer countie of the Barron, Garrard, Roquemore, and other families related to them, and in 1806 there was a general rush to Jones County. John Barron's father-in-law, John Garrard, sold out in Wilkes and moved to Jones late in 1806, and I guess as John was among the first settlers of Jones, that he moved about the same time. John lived in this country many years, and I think my father stated that he and his wife died in this county. They left heirs, but I did not write down their names. But the names you gave me are just as I would have expected to find among the names of John Barron and his Garrard wife. John's wife had a brother Jacob, who married Elizabeth Barron, John's sister, and thus their children were double cousins. Hence how natural for them to name one of their boys after his brother Samuel, another after his brother, William, another after her father GARRARD, NOT GARRETT; another after her brother, Jacob, and still another after her brother Jacob, and his sister Elizabeth's son, Hiram, born the year before, March 24, 1800. Many of the Barrons and other relatives have persisted in calling our names Garrett and I judge that your uncle's name was Garrard, but miscalled Garrett. Though not unlikely intended to be for my greatgrandfather's name but spelled wrong, as some of the older children, and especially the girls grew up without an education. My father found one of his cousins in the lower part of Georgia without any education whose name the people spelled incorrectly.
Now, I would like to hear from you as to what you think about the way I have mended the broken link in your ancestors. I should like to have stated that Barron's wife had an uncle James Garrard for whom your uncle James may have been named if the son of John Barron, Jr.
ELIZABETH, BARRON, A DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM BARRON OF WARREN COUNTY, GA.
Elizabeth was most likely born in Ireland and always spoke with a little Irish brogue as long as she lived. Judging from the age of her oldest and youngest heirs and my mothers recollections of her age at her death, she must have been born sometime in the forepart of the year 1766. She died in the spring of 1828 at the age of 62. About 1787 or 1788, she was married to Jacob Garrard, son of John Garrard of Wilkes County, Georgia. They first settled in Wilkes County, Georgia. In December, 1805, they settled in Putnam County, then a part of Baldwin, fourteen miles north of Milledgeville and eight miles south of the present location of Eatonton. Jacob Garrard died at this place in spring of 1823 (see tombstone data). He died of fever and about the same date four of his children. Elizabeth on the same place in 1828.
Their heirs are nine in all. All but four died without marrying. The oldest, Mr. Nancy Roquemore, of Putnam, died about 1835 without issue. The second, William Garrard of Putnam County was born December 7, 1791, and died Nov. 22, 1862. His two sons, John Marion of Putnam County , then Hancock, then Talbot, then of Columbus, Georgia and William T. of Putnam are both dead. Both left heirs. The late General T. H. Mahone of Talbot County, his two brothers, Gip and Peter and Dr. Abraham married daughters of William Garrard, Sr. of Putnam County.
The sixth heir of Jacob and Elizabeth Garrard, was Hiram Garrard, my father. He was born in Wilkes County, March 24, 1800 and was six years old, less three months, when his father moved from Wilkes to Putnam-Baldwin. He was married to Martha B. Goss, of Newton County, Georgia in November, 1824 and moved to Newton County, in December, 1825 and from Newton County to Montgomery, County, Alabama, near Pine Level, in December, 1852, where he died, November, 7th, 1871, and my mother April 30, 1880. They reared nine children, three sons and six daughters. The 7th and 8th, two grown daughters, 18 and 20 died near the close of the late Internal War. The 3rd Prof. Hiram Jesse Garrard, dropped dead in Kaufman, Kaufman County, Texas., in December 1890. He left two grown sons. The rest are all living in Alabama and Texas. I am the 2nd heir born December 16, 1827. Have only one son and one daughter living: George Davis Garrard and Mrs. Alice Jessie McCrary and have three motherless grandchildren, daughters of Mrs. Lillian G. Miles, who was my second daughter. My other brothers Rev. Joseph W. Garrard, a Baptist minister of Scurry, County, Texas, (living in 1924 at Margarget, Texas) 12 years younger than myself, has four sons and three daughters. His sons are Hiram, William, Malone and Joseph. So you see that we are keeping up the Barron and Garrard names.
The 7th heir of Jacob and Elizabeth Garrard was named Zillah Ann. She married Rev. James M. Roquemore of Jones County Ga. They settled in Talbot County, and then they and all their children moved to Carthage, Texas, Panola, County. Aunt Zillah died about 1875. They left a good number of grandchildren, but only one or two children living.
WILLIAM BARRON, JR., OF WARREN COUNTY SON OF CAPTAIN WILLIAM BARRON
The next heir of Captain William Barron and Prudy Barron, of Warren County was William Barron, Jr., of Warren, later of Newton county, Georgia. I am pretty sure that he was born in America, and about June, 1867. He was married about 1791 to Mary Farr, and moved from Warren county to Newton about 1805 or 1806, where he lived for many years, till in his old age he broke up and lived with his son James, and then with his son Henry of Butts county, Ga., where he died in November, 1848, being 81 years and some five or six months old. I have forgotten the exact number of months, but not the number of years. I saw him frequently until I was near 21 years of age. Was present at his death and burial. Was the only one besides his wife who witnessed his death, as he died very suddenly, altho complaining of hurting in his breast all the fore part of the day. I had gone on a fisit (DR note: as typed) to see him from Newton county, presuming that I would not have the opportunity to visit him any more. The heirs of William Barron, Jr. of Newton County, Georgia, were, James Barron, of Meriwether county; the father of Dr. Barron of Troy, Alabama, Rev. Thomas Barron of Whitesville, Harris county, Georgia; the grandfather of Rev. Alonzo C. Barron, editor of the Baltimore Baptist. Next Joseph Barron of Troup county, Georgia. Next Smith Barron of the lower part of Meriwether or the upper part of Talbot county. Next HENRY BARRON (DR note: all caps and underlined in pen) of Butts county, and later of Walton County, Georgia. Next Mary Elizabeth Barron nee Mrs. John Roquemore of Newton county, Georgia. I think this includes all the heirs of William Barron, Jr., that lived to maturity. All of them reared a large number of children; and excepting the descendents of Henry Barron and Mrs. John Roquemore, most all if not all, of William Barron's descendants are in Alabama and Texas. A host of them in Pike county, Alabama. (I I (DR: as typed) had forgotten Davis Barron who was a cousin to my father and I am tolerably dure (DR: as typed) a son of William Barron, Jr., I think he settled somewhere in the western part of Georgia. (DR: there is no parenthesis close)
SAMUEL BARRON, SON OF WILLIAM BARRON
Samuel Barron was born in Warren county, Georgia, July 4, 1768 and died in Jones county, June 20, 1826. He was married to Miss Joannah Braswell, March 22, 1793, and lived in Warren county most probably till he moved to Jones county, about 1806. He left a widow, eight sons and three daughters. His children were lst., James, 2nd, Sarah; 3rd Willie; 4th Capt. William; 5th Nancy; 6th Rebecca; 7th Benjamin; 8th Jonathan 9th Willis; 10th Green; 11th Abington.. Willis, Nancy, Green and Abington died and left no heirs. Capt. William Barron the 4th heir of Samuel Barron left eight children, four of whm yet living (the first of the year, at least) namely, Mrs. Mary Morris of Jones county; Dr. James F. Barron of Clinton, Jones County; Capt. Robert H. Barron of Macon, Georgia, and Mrs. Lizzie Austin or Mrs. J. E. Austin of Fort Valley, Georgia. Perhaps I will draw of your patience, but as you may conclude that John Barron, Jr., was your grandfather, and hence, that John Garrard of Wilkes county was your great-grandfather of your grandmother Barron's side, I will append a little about him and his people.
John Garrard, pronounced Gar-rard' - was of French parentage. But my father thought that his grandfather Garrard's parents had left France and had come to England before John was born as his grandfather never spoke with any of the French brogue. And that was his understanding, that he came directly from England. John with his two brothers, Robert and James, came to America to South Carolina; and a cousin of theirs settled in Penna., the grandfather of Garrard, once Governor of Kentucky, for whom a county named in that state. Robert settled in South Carolina, and perhaps James also. One of James' son's grew up and settled in Wilkes County, Georgia. On an adjoining farm to Jacob Garrard's. He was the ancestor of Col. Louis F. Garrard of Columbus, Georgia. John Garrard was born as early, I suppose in 1730. (James should be Jacob according to Garrard history.)
He came to America about 1750 to 1755. (About 1755 to 1760; Garrard History 1758) he was married to Mary Bolt of South Carolina, a sister of Abram Bolt, of that state. He followed overseeing, first in South Carolina and then in Georgia, until he accumulated enuf to buy a farm in Wilkes County, Ga. about 1772. He moved to Jones county 1806, and died in the spring of 1807, having married his second wife about three months prior to his death. The heirs of John Garrard of Wilkes county, were two sons and three daughters. Jacob and Robert were the two sons. Jacob as previously stated, married Elizabeth Barron and one of his sisters, John Barron. Robert Garrard, about 1806, settled in Wilkes county, Georgia. He left three sons: John, James, and William, and several daughters. One daughter of John Garrard married Ledloe. The settled in Jones county about 1806. I do not know whom the other daughter married.
Now, I would like very much to know something about the history and pedigree of that Barron family in Ireland and America that you mentioned having. If possible, I would like to have a copy. Is it printed? And can another copy be secured.
Yours truly,
John Davis Garrard.
This is an exact copy of the letter of (DR: to) J. D. Barron written Aug. 18, 1892. This letter is in the possession of his daughter, Miss Theodora Barron #9 North Jackson Street Montgomery, Ala. It was sent to Petrona Garrard Humber Hean Feb. 1, 1924 thus this copy. (Copied by Mrs. Newt Etheredge Jackson, Georgia, April 5, 1949,)
The pencil marks are my corrections from gravestone datas at Watt Field Dennis Ga., Old Garrard cemetary, and from Gov. Garrard of Kentucky, His Descendants and Relatives, history. The section relating to our branch of the Garrards was compiled by the above John D. Garrard.
Garrard
Petrona/Humber Hean
April 17, 2000: The copy in my possession was retyped to assure its legibility when placed on the internet. I attempted to retype it exactly as written. In a few cases, Mrs. Etheredge placed a comment in parentheses. I have also done the same for a few more comments, but added my initials, DR, to identify mine. It appears that the typographical errors were made in retyping the original (it is not clear, but Mrs. Etheredge probably retyped the copy in 1949---if so, the typos could have been made by her). The punctuation and capitalization errors may or may not be in the original. In most cases, county is not capitalized. From what I know, JD Garrard has several dates wrong and Mrs. Etheredge points out one name probable error. Thus, it may be expected there are other mistakes in the original. It is recommended after a number of persons have an opportunity to critique this letter that the comments be appended. Davis R. Reese
Date: 4/21/2000 8:57:16 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
The source of these records: Mrs. OO Goyne, Regent, Long Leaf Pine, Ruston, LA secured these inscriptions from the old cemetery. They were copied by the Genealogical Records Chairman, Clara L. Knott, for Long Leaf Pine Chapter, D.A.R.
SPEARVILLE CEMETERY, Union Parish, LA - 4 miles west of US # 167 on State Route 15.
Armon S. Smith, July 5, 1887 - Oct. 30, 1933
Rosa Lea Smith, 1892-1929
Marjorie Harrell, dau. of Mr. & Mrs. W.S. Harrell (Dr.) 9-23-1901-7-1-1903
Sarah E. Brazzeal* June 17, 1819 - June 8, 1889
Elder Woody K. Smith, April 26,1857-June 25, 1933
Mary B. Smith, wife of Elder Woody K. Smith, Nov. 2,1864 - June 10,1950
Henry C. Barron, Dec. 4, 1834-Jan.21.,1911
Herbert Lance Smith, March, 1938-9-18-1943
S.D. Barron Moses, 1840-1920
John A. Barron, April 4, 1871-December 5, 1953]
Clara L. Barron, March 22, 1886-July 20, 1938
J.D. Barron, June 9, 1828-May12, 1912
Martha Barron, July 12, 1888 - Dec.12, 1904
Edna Annie Hale, born and died Sept.21,1874
Chelon D. Hale, Sept. 24, 1876-1882 F
H.D. Brazzeal* April 5, 1815 - Oct. 19, 1891 (Sarah seems his wife)
Sallie E. Brazzel*, June 17, 1819 - Jan. 1888 (Compare Sarah to Sallie)
James R. Thomas, May 14, 1870-Sept. 30, 1892
Truman R. Light, October 25, 1861
Teresa Holcomb Hunt, 66 years, 5 days - April 6, 1874
J.V.B. Waldrop, April 2, 1837 - Feb. 12- 1915
Minnie Mabel Goodson, 1888 - 1901
* Brazzel, Breazeeal, Brazzeal, etc. probably the same family
WALNUT GROVE CEMETERY - About 5 mile from Jonesboro
George W. Plyant June 17, 1868- Sept. 11, 1947
S.P. Tolbird - Feb. 10,1846 - Feb. 22, 1896
J.C. Tolbird - May 30, 1836 - Oct. 6, 1910
Mona Tolbird - (Wife of J.C. Tolbird) Aug. 14, 1844 - Oct. 8, 1913
John L. Tolbird - Jan. 25, 1887 - Nov. ll, 1954
Lou Gennie Bush - July 15, 1866 - Dec. 7, 1949
Infant Bush 1894
Robert Bush - D. 1899 - age 3 months, 7 days
Richard Tolbird - Dec. 6, 1884 - Apri 10, 1929
W.P. Fowler May 1, 1866- March 8, 1910
Lucy L. Shipp - Aug. 29, 1877 - Dec. 31, 1934
Alice L. Shipp - (Wife of R. F. Shipp_ Dec. 3, 1858 - Nov. 27, 1915
Robert F. Shipp - June 9, 1854 - July 4, 1891
Lemuel G. Shipp - Feb. 16, 1822 - July 22, 1902
Lucy E. Shipp - (Wife of Lemuel G. Shipp) June 14, 1829 - Sept. 6, 1915
Iley C. Bonnett - LA Pvt. MG TNG Center WW1 - May 17, 1896 - Jan. 2, 1949
W. F. Bonnett - Dec. 25, 1859 - Feb. 26, 1935
Nicholas L. Bonnett - Mar. 10, 1893 - Feb. 8, 1936
Nancy Walters - Aug. 31, 1848 - Dec. 26, 1934
LEON JACKSON BARRON - April 17, 1881 - May 24, 1916
Ben C. Cummings - Dec. 28, 1859 - May 13, 1922
Fannie A. Cummings - Oct. 5, 1868-Dec. 23, 1938
Auman Salsbury - July 2, 1898 - Aug. 20, 1934 (related to Barron's)
BETHEL CEMETERY - Union Parish
Ashley S. Nelson - Died Feb. 23, 1861 - Aged about 43 years
Nacy, wife of A.S. Nelson - Died Sept. 9, 1866 - Aged 47 years
Louisa, wife of A. B. Nelson - Died Jan. 25, 1878 - Aged 20 years, 3 mos., 16 days
Ada C. Thompson - Mar. 17, 1898 - Sept. 27, 1950
Roy Thompson - Juen 17, 1897
Woodie S. Albritton - Sept. 3, 1899 - May 15, 1948
W. B. (Berry) Henderson - July 16, 1883 - May 27, 1953
Ellie Henderson - Aug. 13, 1883
Hardy M. RABORN - Sept. 26, 1875
Della A. RABORN - Mar. 2, 1879 - Mar. 17, 1950
Anna E., Wife of J.T. Kierbow - Oct. 8, 1876 - July 16, 1919
John Thomas Kierbow - Dec. 27, 1871 - June 21, 1937
Helen R. Linder - Feb. 8, 1885 - Dec. 8, 1954
Susanna BARRON English - Sept. 28, 1879 - Oct. 12, 1955
Zou BARRON - Wife of C.M. Walker - Sept. 22, 1877 - Nov. 12, 1917
Mrs. Mattie BARRON Brazzel - Aug. 21, 1868 - July 17, 1917
Mrs. Savilla - Wife of Hyram BARRON - May 29, 1840 - Dec. 28, 1910
James H. - Husband of Emma Wallace - Dec. 9, 1875 - June 25, 1921
Mrs. R.W. Wallace - Dec. 21, 1854 - Sept. 17, 1921
R.W.Wallace - Aug. 7, 1855 - Aug. 7, 1910
Augustus L. Ponder - 1859
Nacy Jane Ponder - 1857 - 1935
Artie - daughter of A.L. & N.J. Ponder - Feb. 23, 1888 - June 20,1912
Blance Wallace - Sept. 9, 1886
CAMP CREEK CEMETERY - Union Parish, LA on Bernie-Cherry Ridge Highway
Lettie Rockett - Dec. 9, 1897 - Jan. 19, 1916
J.O. Rockett - 1847 - 1929
Elizabeth Rockett - 1857 - 1945
Ela F. R. BARRON - Feb. 1882 - May 8, 1923
HENRY BARRON - 1879 - 1952
Mary Land Castleberry - 1844- 1916
Edward R. Castleberry - Co. F 13 Ala.Inf.C.S.A.
George Allen Castleberry - Jan. 16, 1866- Feb. 15 1938
Annie Lee Patton, Wife of W.L. Golden - Nov. 7, 1889 - Dec. 11, 1950
THEODOCIA Patton - July 9, 1866 - July 8, 1935
William E. Patton - Aug. 20, 1853 - July 24, 1939
Corp. E.W. Fuller - Co. A. Claiborne's LA Mil. C.S.A.
Ben L. Rockett - USA, Son of W.L. and Minnie Rockett Aug. 29, 1893 - Dec. 15, 1917
Minnie Ward, wife of W.L. Rockett - March 2, 1876 - Nov. 6, 1908
Bettie O., Wife of W.L. Rockett - Sept. 20, 1879 - July 12, 1951
Willie L. Rockett - May 7, 1872 - Mry 17, 1953
Rosa A. Byram - 1881 - 1913
JOhn R. Byram - 1876
Fred Ward - Dec. 16, 1894 - Dec. 11, 1941
Delta Tabor Abbett - June 8, 1870 - Feb. 4, 1930
Mrs. Callie Ward - June 4, 1857 - Dec. 29, 1929
Sarah C., Wife of Rec. L.B. Abett - Dec. 23, 1831 - Dec. 3, 1895
Rev. L.B. Abbettt - Aug 10,1825 - May 10, 1895
L.N., Wife of W.A. Stone - Nov 2, 1855 - May 25, 1896
W.A.Stone - Jan. 22, 1850 - Jly 27, 1905
Lewis B. Lambert - Sept. 20, 1876 - Feb. 15, 1916
HENSON CEMETERY - The Henson Cemetery is south of Eros some seven or eight miles. To reach it, leave Highway 13 at the Luther Carpenter place and drive to the Alton Waggoner home, then turn in front of the Waggoner home anbd follow the road on past the Varner home and continue until you reach this cemetery whicyh is plainly marked by a large notice about the gate which reads: "Henson Cemetery"
S.E. BARRON - Oct. 7, 1856 - Oct. 30, 1896
Jacob A. Coon - Jan. 31, 1856 - Nov. 1, 1917
Henrietta Henson Coon - Apr. 1, 1856 - Dec. 11, 1947
John W. Griffin - Mar 21, 1862 - Oct. 5, 1908
Isabella Hite Griffin - May 1, 1865 - Mar. 9, 1917
A.J. Head - Feb. 2, 1847 - Mar. 27, 1936
Almeda Head - Feb. 1, 1845 - April 23, 1936
Lt. R.A. Head Co. D 6 Ala. Cav. C.S.A.
P.O. Head - Dec. 15, 1866 - Sept 8, 1943
James Jackson Head - May 15, 1923 - April 27, 1925
Errold Newsom Head - Jan. 16, 1918 - Aug. 18, 1918
Robert Lee Head _ Oct. 28, 1864 - Dec. 2, 1945
Lois Celeste Head - June 15, 1907 - Nov. 19, 1907
Zelma Nettles Head - (MOTHER OF MARTIN LUTHER NETTLES WHO MARRIED
JOSEPHINE BARRON)
Alcey D. Head - Feb. 19, 1895 - July 10, 1920
Anna Head - Dec. 27, 1862 - Jan. 21, 1931
James Yancy Head - Sept. 25, 1860 - Feb. 7, 1946
J.Y. Head (Infant) Oct. 19, 1888
Dr. Andrew Henson - Sept. 13, 1818 - Oct. 31, 1882
Sophia Henson - Feb. 22, 1829 - May 22, 1910
William E. Henson - Mar. 8, 1854 - Aug. 29, 1888
Harriet Hite - 1827 - Feb. 17, 1905
Clayton Russell - Feb. 7, 1910 - Sept. 17, 1910
Note: There must be a connection of these people. I know there was on between the Head's and Barron's
ANTIOCH METHODIST CHURCH CEMETERY - Established 1838 - About an eighth of mile off of Jonesbora Highway.
James Boyd Dagley - Nov. 28, 1822 - Mar. 9, 1899
Elizabeth BARRON Dagley - June 19, 1825 - Oct. 29, 1898
John Maze Rainbolt - Jan. 24, 1857 - Dec. 25, 1939
Nancy Ida Dagley - July 12, 1865 - dec. 24, 1925
Florence, dau. of J.M. & Ida Rainbolt - Nov. 7, 1891 - May 6, 1893
Phillemon B. Pierce - Oct. 24, 1864 - Apr. 17, 1944
Rillie Edwards Pierce - Born Mar. 30 1872 -
Lula Ann French Clark - Ap. 14, 1882 - Nov. 20, 1945
Homer Eugene French - May 5, 1858 - June 2, 1892
Elizabeth R. White French - Aug. 30, 1859 - Nov. 24, 1929
Callie L., Wife of l.F. Bunn - Sept 22, 1876 - Nov. 5, 19090Infant son of L.F. & Sallie Bunn - Born and died Dec. 81897
Sallie, wife of L.F. Bunn D. Feb. 5, 1898 age 19 years.
L.F. Bunn died 1950 age 77 years
Peter t. Kilpatrick - Jan. 1, 1841 - Sept. 14, 1909
Robert Kilpatrick - July 19, 1875 -Aug. 5, 1919
Charles W. Golson - June 23, 1864 - May 16, 1933
Olive S. Golson - Born Jan. 30, 1873 -
Dr. Elizabeth D. Smith - wife of Dr. O.B. Smith - Dec. 14, 1832 - De.c 3, 1905
Hugh F. Smith - Nov. 7, 1875 - Feb. 17, 1954
Oliver F. Lolley - Dec. 4, 1883 - Mar. 24, 1931
Walter Scott Bunn, son of J.M. & M.A. Bunn - May 1,1892 - Sept. 11, 1896
E. Clyde Bunn, son of J.M. & M.A. Bunn - Feb. 16, 1895 - FEb. 13, 1898
Robert Lee Golson - May 30, 1870 - FEb. 19, 1955
Note: John I have seen this Golson name connected to Barron somewhere and I believe it was on an inquiry to you. There is a note on the list I have that says they were either related or very good friends.
Well you look over and decide what you want to do with the list.
The following may be a repeat, I usually note if I have sent to you, please excuse me if it is.
THE WILL OF JOHN BARRON Daughter Cressy Ann McCord; daughter of Polly James; daughter Elizaeth Bagley ($1.50 each); daughter Salley Poteet (wife of James Poteet a Indian slave, to which son in law James Poteet shall have no right or control. Beloved wife, Elizabeth, and at her death to be divided between the lawful heirs of my son, John, and my deceased son William. Frances Durrett snf David Lancaster, Executors. 11 September 1828.
That's it for tonight. HAVE A VERY HAPPY EASTER AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU IN ALL YOU DO FOR OTHERS.
Pat Colby
Date: 4/21/2000 9:32:56 PM Central Daylight Time
From: DRREESE66
To: JBarron933
CC: barde@bellsouth.net, sarchet@texasonline.net
CC: bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net
I will comment as near as I can to items as they appear in the letter. These are not intended to be exhaustive and I have not checked but a few of his dates.
1. In 1892, John Davis G. was 64 years old. His father died when he was 43. He says he began recording direct ancestor info when a "youth" (from another statement, I believe this was before he was 21) and other genealogical info after his father died (i.e., for about 20 years). He knew intimately William Barron, Jr. who died when John was about 21 (This was the only child of William, Sr who lived after John was born.). Therefore, since William Barron, Sr./Prudence Davis were William, Jr's parents and John's direct ancestors, it is logical to assume they discussed them a number of times. That is, the info related to William Sr's coming to America and the incident about his beheading were probably told to him by and/or confirmed by William, Jr. (Since John's father, Hiram, talked to so many relatives and was alive when all four of William Sr's children were alive, it is likely he passed this info on to John---remember, Hiram was William Sr's grandson.)
2. William Barron, Sr. had a brother John (I had not heard this before.) who came from Ireland to America more than once before he persuaded William to come. This supports that William Sr. came directly from Ireland.
3. John Garrard (JDG) estimates William/Prudence married about 1762. The "or 1760" was apparently inserted by Mrs. Jackson.
4. Children's births. He seems certain that William, Jr. and Samuel were born in America. His comments are a little strange, since he gives estimated dates for John and Elizabeth, then says he does not know whether John was the oldest. If Elizabeth retained an Irish brogue throughout her life, it seems unlikely that she was a baby when she came to America or that she was born in America (possible, but unlikely).
5. The often told story of the beheading appears at this point. As indicated by my comments above, I find it hard to discredit. Based on his careful acknowledgment when he was uncertain of stated facts, if he had any doubt about this, I believe he would have used some term to indicate his uncertainty.
6. "There were probable from two to four more daughters." It appears, but it is not perfectly clear, that he is referring to daughters of William Sr. I have not heard of any daughters other than Elizabeth.
7. John Barron Jr., first paragraph
a. line 7: my typo- s/b counties
b. line 11: after country, insert: (DR: per original). Country should be county.
8. Elizabeth Barron
a. Refers to her Irish brogue (discussed above).
b. Paragraph 2, line 1, change Mr. to Mrs. I do not have John Marion in my list of
Elizabeth's children. The Gip was probably Gib (Gibson). Dr. Abraham was
Dr. Abram Charles Philips who married Zillah Ann Rebecca Garrard (my
ancestors).
9. William Barron, Jr.
a. Mary Farr. Now identified as Martha Smith. As far as I know, it is not known
if Farr was her married name.
b. Here he mentions that he saw William, Jr. frequently until he, John, was near
21 years old. By this, John means until William, Jr. died.
10. Samuel Barron
a. There seems to be a child named twice (if true, then one is missing). Child 3
is Willie and child 4 is Capt. William (and child 9 is Willis).
b. About half down the paragraph: after "whm", insert (DR: per original).
11. John Garrard. Note the accent on the second syllible. This family of Garrards
always emphasized this (my mother told me this several times). Other related Garrards, I believe, pronounce the name differently.
Note Mrs. Jackson's comment in parentheses. It seems that it is accepted that
John's brothers were Robert and Jacob, not Robert and James.
Paragraph 2: The info in parentheses-Mrs. Jackson has no parentheses close
after 1760, the semi-colon was erroneously inserted by me, she has a
parentheses open after 1760. I believe my semi-colon provides the intent of Mrs. Jackson,ie, JDG's 1750-55 should be 1755-60 if the 1758 date according to
Garrard history is accepted. In my search for Mary Bolt's ancestry, I have not
found anyone who knew the siblings of Abram Bolt, although they knew some
things about him.
12. Last paragraph. Has anyone seen the Barron history and pedigree that the Honorable J. D. Barron had? It might provide some insight on the lineage of William Sr.
13. First added paragraph: It appears Petrona Garrard Humber Hean was doing a lot of searching about the time she received a copy of this letter. I have another letter she wrote also in 1924 asking her cousin to confirm info she had and to provide more. She indicated she was trying to add to her ancestors in the DAR.
She mentions pencil mark corrections. There are none on my copy (which tends to confirm that Mrs. Jackson retyped a copy using Petrona's copy).
Comment: As there are obviously several persons who possess much more information related to this letter than I do, I would very much appeciate their comments. I will be happy to interact directly <drreese66@aol.com>, but believe it would be best if you are copied on all comments, John, so they can be circulated for all to read and possibly lead to more discussion. When we seem to have exhausted everyone, all the comments need to be assembled for everyone to have a set. If you feel this is too much for you, I or probably others will be glad to help. If I am putting too much on your shoulders, say so before you send out my comments.
Regards, Dave Reese
Date: 4/22/2000
To: DRREESE66
Dave, sending it around the Barron Circle sounds like the best way to me. I save all correspondence and can assemble into the final form. I'm just slow about getting to it also I'll be out of state next month for a week or so and will no doubt get behind even more.
Also, I'm considering moving the Circle to egroups which will automatically save all the messages for members to read at their leisure. What do you think of this idea. To see their setup take a look at www.egroups.com.
John
Date: 4/22/2000 11:02:55 AM Central Daylight Time
From: DRREESE66
To: bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net
CC: barde@bellsouth.net, sarchet@texasonline.net
CC: JBarron933
Vicki-sorry to be so long getting back to you. By now, you have received my retyped version of the letter and my comments. I felt it best to get these written first.
1. I have never seen nor heard of documents two and three that you comment on. It certainly seems that Mrs. Hean (Petrona) worked actively on her genealogy in the 1920s. Since you mention a Barron document she sent, there certainly may be a Garrard document of hers in the GA Archives. It is obvious that the Barron, Garrard and Roquemore families had interacting association over many years. (which is interesting for me, since I have two Barron, two Roquemore and one Garrard lines that interact) I hope that you will get some of the info you have onto the internet.
2. It appears that the Thomas Willis Barron of Newnan GA who wrote the letters in the 1970s is the Chip Barron (business card says Thomas W. Barron) from who my sister and I obtained the copy of the 1892 letter when we visited him recently while I was in Carrollton, my home town, which is about 25 miles from Newnan. He has a mass of information, a lot of which he gathered by going to many GA court houses .
He is the one that gave Betty the story about the cloak, which he seems to have come by since he wrote the letters in the 70s. He still has a great interest in Barron genealogy, but it appears that he is not currently doing much. What we saw were a couple of notebooks that were thick with documents. He said he had more at home.
It would certainly be nice if he wrote up something, at least relative to William/ Prudence coming from Ireland, the Augusta situation and the cloak. (Betty-suggest you call him and see if he will do this.)
2. It seems obvious that your version is somewhat different from the one I posted. As far as I can tell, my version is a direct copy of Mrs. Etheredge's, with her notations. Penciled corrections by Mrs. Hean are not evident, so it is probably a retype by Mrs. Etheredge of Mrs. Hean's copy. Mine seems longer than the four pages you mentioned. Single spaced the letter itself is almost five pages.
3. Your "second document". By now, you know that my version does contain his statement that he was "present at his death and burial"(of William Barron, Jr.). However, it does not include "We always called his wife Aunt Patty." I reread the section on William Barron, Jr. carefully and the only reference to William's wife is that he called her Mary Farr. If he called her Aunt Patty, he almost certainly knew that her name was Martha, not Mary. It would be helpful if you would compare my version with the one you have and list all differences in your version.
4. Your "third document". It would be good to post its details of the "Augusta event".
Unlike JD Garrard's, some details sound like add on to factual ones. For example, his escape to fight again and retailiation by his grandson. Since no grandson was born before the 1780s, it sounds far fetched that one would retailate against the indians years later. One point-although Sanford was a "contemporary" of Garrard, he did not have the opportunity to talk to William Barron, Jr. as Garrard did on many occasions.
I look forward to your comments on what I have sent you and whatever else you may have that relates. My Barron file is now about the same size as my Roquemore file, something I thought would never happen. Unfortunately, I still have not seen some of the original documents that are out there. Regards, Dave.
Date: 4/22/2000 11:26:16 AM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
I have completed going thru the notes,etc mother left on the Barron's. Last two tidbits of interest. When I complete all entries to by Barron file I will run off a copy and send to you snail mail. You can always use it for scratch paper.
Panola City, Mississippi 1860 Census -
BORN
Henry J. Barron 49 Carpenter - $1,800. Miss.
Matilda 47 SC
Mary I 22 Mississippi
Elizabeth L. 20 "
JOHN W. 19 "
Charles F. 17 "
A.A. 15 "
Malena 13 "
Sarah N. 11 "
Josephine 9 "
Alice 6 "
Elley 3 "
Note: It seems like someone had inquired about a Garrard connection but I can't seem to locate it. This has a connection.
Roster of Revolutionary Soldiers in Georgia
Jacob Garrard, b. Sept. 4, 1763; d.Putnam (Baldwin)Co., Ga., 1819. Served as private, Ga. troops; was at Battle of Cowpens; received bounty grant of land in GA for his service. Mar. June 22, 1786, MARY ELIZABETH BARRON, b. 1765; d.Baldwin Co., GA, 1827 (dau.of WILLIAM BARRON, Rev. Soldier, and his wife Prudence Davis)
Children:
l. Nancy b. 1787 - Married (1)Thomas Roquemore (2) Samuel Johnson (3) Green Simmons
2. William b. 1791- Married: (1) Delilah Clements (2) Mary Ann (Roguemore)Allen
3. John, b. 1790
4. Jacob, b. 1794
5. Mary Rebecca
6. Hiram
7. Zillah Ann, b. 1802;d.Texas; Mar. Rev. James Roquemore, (who (2) Mar. Martha Goss)
8. Eliza Maria
9. Anna Lucinda
JOHN GARRARD, b. 1730; d.Jones Co.,GA,1807. Served as private; received 287 1/2 acres of land for his service in Wilkes Co., GA. Mar. (1) 1758 in SC Mary Bolt; (2) Elizabeth __________. Note: c/b Elizabeth Barron
Children by (1) wife:
1. Robert
2. Frances, mar. JOHN BARRON
3. Nancy
4. Jacob, Rev. Sol., Mar. MARY ELIZABETH BARRON (Listed above)
Now it is "Tylenol" time so I can sit at this contraption called a computer and enter all my goodies. You will get a copy someday, promise.
Pat
Date: 4/22/2000 5:17:59 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RLCPAC9
To: JBarron933
John
Found this correspondence between my mother and Kenneth R. Barron, Attorney at Law - 113 West Rusk Street - Tyler, Texas 75701 - Dated June 7, 1985 - The phone number is 214-595-0721. Doubt he is still there.
My mother writes him from memory, since she is visiting my sister in NC.
The Barrons of Ireland
There were two Barron brothers who were of Irish decent, who were immigrants from Ireland to the US of America, shortly before the Revolutionary War. Their names were John and William Barron.
Formerly the name was Fitzgerold Barron, but they dropped the Cognomen of Fitzgerold and retained the Barron part. Because, the Fitzegerold part represented Royalty and political strife, which they wished to remain out of, if possible. This was the possible reason for their immigration to America.
The record does not state where they were married except to say that two of their children were born in Ireland. I believe it was Elizabeth and Samuel who were the eldest. From memory, I believe they were John's Children, and the mother was Mary Ellis, whom he married in Ireland.
William (from memory) was beheaded by the Indians and his head posted on a pole for three weeks (from memory). He was a Whig, maybe a Troy and a great fighting soldier, whom the Indians feared and the opposite political party wanted killed. So, they had the Indians do their dirty work.
(From Memory) His children were: Elizabeth and Samuel born in Ireland 17--, William born America 17--, Benjamin born in America 1790, (two more children names not remembered.)
Elizabeth and Samuel married before 1800. Samuel's children were: Green B. Barron, Wiley, Jonathan, Samuel (There were more but I can't remember them)
They came to Georgia, built homes, raised their families there. The children of these brothers went to Alabama and Mississippi. Our Grandmother who married Samuel Charles Barron in Montgomery, Alabama in 1840 was Annie Elizabeth Brown. After they wed they left for Caldwell or most likely Jackson Parish, LA settling land, 640 acres. I have the record from the Dept. of Interior in Washington. His brother, William also settled in Ouachita Parish, LA. in 1841. Pres. Bucanan signed the papers. I also have pictures of their homes in Georgia, Jones City (from memory) Grandpa Samuel Charles's Family: Samuel Charles Barron Born 1822 married Annie Elizabeth Brown Born 1822 on November 1840 in Montgomery, Alabama.
Children were:
Ellander (Ellen) B 1842
Benjamin Franklin 1844
Emily 1846
Alice 1848
William 1850
Jonathan 1852
Charles 1854
Wiley W. 1856
This was my Mother's, Mother's family. My mothers full name was Sarah Annie Elizabeth Miller Middleton. She was the daughter of Ellen Barron, daughter of Samuel Charles and Annie Elizabeth Brown Barron.
Grandpa Samuel Barron was killed by a man known to have a terrible temper. Grandpa had repaired a gun for him, and when Grandpa asked to be paid he shot him with the gun he had just repaired.
Some of their children stayed in Jackson Parish, La some went to East Texas and some to West Texas. Most of the Barron's are related so I have been told by Genealogist possibly all of them distantly or so it appears.
They are fine people, be glad you share their blood.
Reply from Kenneth Barron:
He says, enclosed is a copy of a letter I received from Wen Barron. (meaning mothers letter, I suppose because there was no other. She must have sent it first to Wen.
He goes on the say -
I am a driect descendant of William Barron, one of the subject matters of this letter.
According to my information, William had the following children:
John - Born: 1763 in Ireland
Mary Elizabeth - Born October 25, 1765 in Ireland
William, JR. Born July of 1767 in the US.
Samuel Born March 16, 1768 in the US
You state that your letter was written from memory. Records were at Joyce's. If you have any records of the family, whether that's direct descendents of William Barron or his brother John, I would certainly appreciate the opportunity to review these records and possibly make copies. If you would contact me, by calling me collect, I would appreciate it very much.
My address is above if you have anything you care to mail.
Thank you for your assistance.
Sincerely,
Kenneth R. Barron
It's coffee time I am going crossed eyed with Barron's at this point.
Pat
Date: 4/23/2000 9:51:10 AM Central Daylight Time
From: DRREESE66
To: JBarron933
John-if you are willing, your handling this sounds the best to me.
I checked the egroups site. It looks like a good way to go. I like the idea that you or anyone can set up a chat time and we can kick around topics of interest to some or all of us. Also, it seems this will relieve you of considerable effort, permitting you to spend time more constructively.
I noted on the egroup site that one of the things they permit is cutting off attachments to minimize possibility of virus invasion. Maybe you know, but I just learned a few days ago from the Phila. Inquirer that you can move whole documents from your computer to your e-mail which is what I did with the Garrard letter:
On the document: point cursor, then Ctrl/A (highlights whole document) + Ctrl/C (lifts copy of whole document)
On the e-mail: enter address and subject then point cursor to message section and Ctrl/V which transfers the entire document to the e-mail.
Besides security, this means the recipient can always read what would have been an attachment. I hate it when I get a scrambled message and have to figure out how to read it. (I have limited computer expertise.) Dave.
Date: 4/24/2000
To: RLCPAC9
CC: lucybarron@juno.com
Thanks Pat, keep them coming. Pretty interesting concerning "Samuel" Charles Barron. I'm afraid the stuff earlier than him, however, sounds like the typical legendary babble that we've seen over and over and even seems to roll several of the legends into one. I really don't think there is a link between the Jackson Parish/Montgomery Co. Barrons and the "Capt" Wm Barron group of Georgia, but who knows. This guy was probably influenced into thinking they were related by the several descendants of Wm who lived in Tyler and Smith Co.
John
Date: 4/24/2000 12:00:52 PM Central Daylight Time
From: sba5455412@freewwweb.com (Steve Barron)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hi John, this is for Nancy Edmondson Wood for whom I have no email address. She mentioned some Edmondson's buried at the Barron Cemetery at Vaughn, Benton Co., AR where I have some Barron relatives including my great-grandfather Thomas Barron buried (1812-1880). I was born Feb 19, 1929. I have some recent photos of the Barron Cemetery that I could email her if she would like.
Steven A. Barron
Date: 4/24/2000 9:04:52 PM Central Daylight Time
From: bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net (Bob Kruschwitz)
To: DRREESE66@aol.com
CC: barde@bellsouth.net, sarchet@texasonline.net, JBarron933@aol.com
Dave,
Thanks for your note. I appreciate your patience in retyping the whole of the Garrard letter. In response to your items:
1 and 3. One of the reasons I conjecture that John Davis Garrard must have written, or was quoted on sections of "The Barron Family of Warren County, Georgia, and Descendants" is due to the manner in which the section on William Barron is written. (Note that I have a typed version, so I do not know what the original looked like). Here is the first paragraph, which covers everything but the listing of the children: "William Barron, Jr., son of William Barron and Prudence Davis Barron of Warren Co., Ga. was born about July 1767 in Warren Co., Ga., and died in Butts Co., Ga. in Oct. 1848. I was present at his death and burial and recollect that his daughter remarked that her father was 81 years of age and a few months over. His teeth were all perfect and as white, clean and pretty as a child's could be at three or four years of age. We always called his wife Aunt Patty. Her name was, I suppose, Martha, and I think she was a Miss Farr before marriage. She did not live long after William Barron's death. William Barron, Jr., after his marriage must have lived some time, ten or twenty years, in Warren Co. Probably a while in Putnam Co. However he settled in Newton Co., soon after that part of the county was purchased from the Indians. In his old age he sold out and lived the remainder of his life with his sons."
2. (1) Thomas Willis Barron is known as Chip. I will be interested if you get more information on this, though it sounds like the single source may be Mrs. Dillehunty. If we could just determine and confirm her source!
Chip was quite interested in finding some documentation of William Barron's death. I don't think that he did. But he did run across some interesting information, such as this quote from a Savannah, GA letter (dated May 26, 1781) published in The Royal Gazette in Charleston, SC, dated May 26 - 30, 1781. "A few hours ago Mr. Alexander McLean arrived here from Augusta. He left Col. Grierson's fort with dispatches on Thursday last, notwithstanding upwards of 500 Rebels made a show of invading both Colonel Brown and Colonel Grierson's posts. Mr. McLean says that on the 19th of this month Colonel Brown made a sally on the Rebels, killed upwards of 90, among them five Captains and took upwards of 80 horses, and several prisoners. That Captain Wyllie was arrived in the Ceded Lands from the Cherokee Nation with a number of Cherokee warriors; and that our friends in both forts at Augusta were in good spirits, and had plenty of provisions."
2. (2) I read your copy of the Garrard letter and compared it to my copy. Other than perhaps using some shorthand in relation to the listing of the children and some small differences in notes -- some of which are identified as being by Mrs. Hean, my version seems to be little different from yours. The various persons copying the document or copying copies of the document over the years seem to have taken care not to change the wording significantly.
4. Here is the section from "The Barron Family of Warren County, Georgia, and Descendants" on the death of William Barron: "William Barron was in command of a company in the Revolutionary War and was wounded in the Battle at Augusta, Ga. He fell into the hands of the Tories who hired an Indian to behead him. They put his head as a trophy on a pole placed erect in the center of Augusta where it remained for three weeks until the Whigs regained the town and took it down. His men after he had lain on the battle field without any attention returned under flag of truce to bury the dead and care for the wounded, took him up, contrary to his wishes and carried him into the edge of the town and laid him down in old Grayson's piazza. Grayson was an old Tory. As soon as the Tories fund that it was Captain William Barron, they set about to have him beheaded. He was a brave fighter and terror to the British and Tories and they had previously offered a considerable sum for his head."
Now the version found in the papers of Sanford P. Barron: "William Barron served as a Captain in the Revolutionary War, and was a terror to the Tories, who offered a reward for his head. Hover (?) and several Tories captured him once and attempted repeatedly to kill him, but he asserted to them his life was not in the hands of such cowardly men, but in those of a God who would take care of it. They stretched him between two trees by tying his hands and feet to them, cut bark down in his eyes, and then attempted again to kill him as he then could not see them. They finally failed to do so and left him to die. After a few hours of faithful efforts, he succeeded in getting his wrists to his mouth so that he untied the knots and extrecated (sic) himself, and then rejoined his command. He was wounded at the battle near Augusta, Georgia and lay on the battlefield about three days, when his men came to take up the wounded(.) (H)e ordered them to let him remain where he was but they persisted against his repeated orders to put him down until they carried him to the one Grason, A Tory, in the city of Augusta where they left him on piazza of said house. The Tories hired an Indian to kill him and cut off his head, which they placed upon the a high pole in the center of Augusta, where it remained several weeks. In retaliation for the part the Indian played in Capt. Barron's death and many years after this, one of the Barrons, a grandson of the Captain and Thomas ?? who married a granddaughter of Captain William Barron, slipped across the little (sic) River over into the Indian Territory, in Georgia, and each made two Indians bite the dust."
A couple of observations: It is interesting to note that the name of one of the key Loyalist figures in the battle for Augusta, Colonel Grierson, is very similar to the name of the Tory, Grason, mentioned in Garrard's and Barron's stories. As Grierson owned one of the more prominent houses in Augusta, it could have been Grierson's piazza to which a wounded William Barron was taken as the patriots hastily retreated from the village. Though we cannot be certain that Grayson and Grierson were the same men it is known that elsewhere in Georgia, about this same time, the names Grierson and Grayson were used interchangeably. (A landing on the Chattahoochee River and a trail from the landing to Bullsboro was named for an Indian trader of the 1700s known both as Grierson and Grayson -- Coweta County, Georgia, Chronicles, Jones and Reynolds, 1928, Southern Historical Press, p. 252).
Sanford Barron's account mentions Barron descendants crossing the little (Little) River to take vengeance on the Indians for William Barron's death. There are tax and deed records showing that just after the Revolutionary War, William Barron's family lived on property bordering Little River in Wilkes County. Though, as far as I know, no Barron grandchildren lived on the Little River property. And by the time they were grown, what would have been Indian territory would have moved miles to the west.
Also, I have seen documents with a Tory named Hoover who participated in guerilla action against the Patriots in the counties near Augusta. Sanford Barron's account mentions a Tory named Hover. The name similarity again is intriguing, though far from providing voracity to the account. (I will have to find my sources on this one.)
Sanford Barron's document was found in his papers after his death in 1921. My thought is that Sanford Barron likely received his information on the Barron history from John Davis Garrard. Sanford Barron would have been a middle-aged man at the time that Garrard wrote his letter to John D. Barron. It is possible that Garrard may have corresponded with Sanford Barron as well. If the history found in Sanford Barron's papers had been composed by Barron, the document would more likely have focused on the children of William Barron Jr., since that was his line. Instead there is detailed information on the children and grandchildren of Elizabeth Barron Garrard (the grandmother of John Davis Garrard). The latest date mentioned is the1890 death of Martha Goss Garrard.
I hope this information is of some interest and benefit.
Vicki
Date: 4/25/2000 6:59:23 PM Central Daylight Time
From: nancy_wood@email.msn.com (nancy_wood)
To: jbarron933@aol.com (John Barron)
Re: newspaper abs. of Jasper Co, GA of 7 May 1827, cautioning people not to trade for a bond by the subscriber to Ths. Camp for 3 tracts in 14th Dist. now DeKalb Co...7th Dist. Henry Co...66 a. on old boundry of Jasper Co adj. Wm. Barron & Lewis Hogg...s: James L. & Moses Trimble.
Would suggest you look at Wm., Jr., son of Wm., Sr. & Prudence Davis Barron. A Wm. Barron (whom I believe to have been Wm., Jr.) d. Nov. 1848, m. Patty Smith d. 1855. Patty was the dau of James Smith d. 1794 Wilkes Co, GA & wife, Mary Edmondson. Mary EDM was the dau of Richard & Priscilla EDM of Henry Co, VA. Richard EDM's 1788 will mentioned dau Patty Smith & dau Milly Camp. Milly was m. to Richard Camp.
Date: 4/27/2000 8:31:13 PM Central Daylight Time
From: bkruschwitz@worldnet.att.net (Bob Kruschwitz)
To: jbarron933@aol.com
Information I have appears to support Nancy Wood's suggestion that the William Barron listed in this newspaper article is the son of William and Prudence Barron. This William Barron is my ancestor and I have been tracking his migration pattern across Georgia for a number of years. He lived in the part of Jasper that later became Newton County from about 1817 through 1827. The following deed shows a tie to the Moses Trimble signing the published warning.
11/10/1820 Jasper County, GA Moses Trimble to John Rockmor (sic) of Putnam Co. 66.25 acres, part of lot 184, originally Baldwin, now Jasper County on Little River, bordering E.D. Walker's land. Witnesses: John Trimble, Wm Barron. (Filed in Newton Deed Book A, p. 210).
John Roquemore was William Barron's son-in-law. The above lot was located cattycorner to Barron's lot number 208.
Date: 4/29/2000 12:25:41 PM Central Daylight Time
From: sarchet@texasonline.net (Donna Sarchet)
Reply-to: sarchet@texasonline.net
To: JBarron933@aol.com
The following message is in response to Joyce McMurry's Jasper Co., GA,
newspaper abstract post listings for William Barron and Major Thomas G.
Barron. I thought I would comment regarding my thoughts on these men.
Also, I have included a fairly brief summary of the children (and their
residences) of William Barron, son of Capt. William Barron and wife
Prudence Davis.
First of all, I agree with Nancy Wood and Vicki Barron Kruschwitz that
the 1827 Jasper Co. newspaper reference to William Barron's old land
boundary is likely William Barron (m. Martha Smith), son of Capt.
William Barron and Prudence Davis. Also, in the various references to
the name William Barron in Newton, Jasper, and Putnam Co. records, I
have not seen evidence to lead one to believe there is more than one
person with that name for that time period. [Like Vicki, I descend from
William and Martha (Smith) Barron.]
Regarding the reference to Major Thomas G. Barron, I believe this could
be a reference to one of two men by this name:
1) Thomas Green Barron is the proven son of Samuel Barron (m. Joanna
Braswell). Since Thomas' father Samuel is a brother to William
referenced above, this Thomas Barron would be the nephew of the William
Barron of Wilkes/Hancock/Putnam/Baldwin/Jasper/Newton Counties, GA.
However, I will say that I was not aware that this Thomas G. Barron was
in Jasper Co., although I have not researched him (and I'm not sure
anyone has extensively since he is not supposed to have have left issue;
this is not to say he shouldn't be researched). Also, Jasper County is
an adjoining county to Jones County on Jones' north border.
I do know that his father Samuel Barron (m. Joanna Braswell) moved from
Wilkes/Warren Co., GA to Hancock Co. ca. 1794 before moving ca. 1810 (or
1805) to Jones Co., GA, where he (Samuel) died in 1826. [Note: After
this last move, Samuel Barron became quite wealthy. In 1794 he owned no
slaves and a small amount of land. At the time of his death in 1826, he
owned around 60 slaves and thousands of acres of land. Samuel, his sons
and grandsons were some of the leading citizens of Jones Co., GA; they
were doctors, lawyers, and planters. I can envision a son of this
Samuel Barron having the title of "Major" (as in Major Thomas G. Barron
referenced in the Jasper Co. newspaper aricle).]
There is a detailed sketch of the Samuel Barron family in Carolyn White
Williams' _History of Jones County, Georgia, 1807-1907_ (1957). Of the
eight sons and three daus. listed for Samuel Barron and wife Joanna
Braswell (which agree with the family Bible), only three of these
children (Benjamin, William, Rebecca) are addressed in detail in the
sketch. My impression is that these three are likely the only children
of Samuel to remain in Jones Co. Thus, perhaps son Thomas Green Barron
did live elsewhere--perhaps in adjoining Jasper Co.
Sidenote: The fact that Samuel Barron named a son Thomas Green Barron
interests me because in Craven Co., NC, records, there are references to
a Gen. Thomas Green in the Rev. War time period. As we know, Craven Co.
is the locale where (a) the James Smith family resided prior to coming
to Wilkes Co., GA, prior to the Rev. War [we know that two of James
Smith's children married two children of Capt. William and Prudence
(Davis) Barron], (b) records appear for a William Barron owning land off
the Neuse River southwest of New Bern (land which is not far from that
owned by James Smith and his associates who also came to Wilkes Co.,
GA), and (c) records for a Prudence Davis, orphan of Thomas Davis,
appear (ca. 1746). In addition, published obituaries for Samuel Barron
(d. 1826, Jones Co., GA) in both SC and GA newspapers state that he was
a Rev. War soldier who fought at the Battle of Guilford Courthouse (NC).
I have to admit I have wondered if Gen. Thomas Green was at the the
Battle of Guilford Courthouse and if perhaps he had been a commanding
officer of Samuel Barron (m. Joanna Braswell). [I'm still trying to get
information on Gen. Thomas Green; thus the above statement is just a
hypothesis.]
As for Thomas Green Barron, son of Samuel and Joanna Barron, here are
the references I have for him:
a) In the family Bible of Samuel and Joanna Barron (which I will be
happy to post to list if anyone is interested), the following entries
appear for son Thomas:
"Thomas Green Barron was born 28 July 1807"
"Thomas G Barron married 28th April 1836"
[Note: No spouse's name was given.]
b) In the will of Samuel Barron, dated 10 July 1823 (probated July
1826), of Jones Co., GA, he makes the following reference to Thomas:
" . . . I will and bequeath all the ballance[sic] of my property to my
sons namely Benjamin, Jonithan[sic], Willis, Thomas Green,
Aventon[Abington--DS] Barron to be divided equally between them five
children."
[Note: Daughters and other sons are also named elsewhere in the will.]
c) In the 1892 Garrard letter [written by John Davis Garrard, son of
Hiram Garrard, grandson of Elizabeth Barron Garrard, great-grandson of
Capt. William and Prudence (Davis) Barron]:
[In reference to the eleven children Garrard has just listed for Samuel
Barron and wife Joanna Braswell, he then goes on to say . . .]
"Willie[Wylie--DS], Nancy, Green, and Abington died and left no heirs."
Thus, in comparing the information above with the 1833 newspaper article
naming "Major Thomas G. Barron," I think this is likely the same person.
Thomas Green Barron, b. 1807, would have been 26 years old in 1833
(three years prior to his 1836 marriage). His father, Samuel Barron, was
a prosperous planter who died seven years earlier (1826) in adjoining
Jones Co.
2) The second Thomas Barron is the son of William Barron and wife Martha
Smith. To my knowledge, a middle initial has never been associated with
this Thomas Barron. Here is the immediate family of William Barron, Jr.
(the births appear in family Bibles owned by William Barron and his son
Henry, as does the marriage of Henry):
Children of William and Martha Barron:
[Note: Her maiden name of Smith does not appear in these Barron Bibles.
However, we have proof via wills and deeds that her name is indeed
Smith. I will be happy to post this information if anyone is
interested.]
1. James S. Barron, b. 28 Nov 1791, d. 5 Dec 1856, m. 1) Mary Doss (d. 5
Dec 1839) on 10 Dec 1812, Putnam Co., GA, m. 2) Sarah H. Martin (b. 12
Jun 1807, d. 12 Apr 1891).
[This James S. Barron was "of Jones Co., GA" in 1821 (as per a Newton
Co. deed) at which time he bought land in Newton Co., which he sold the
next year in 1822. In the 1850 census, he is in Meriwether Co., where he
died in 1856 and is buried.]
[Note: The land that James' father William Barron lived on in Putnam Co.
was near the Jones/Putnam border. William Barron had moved ca. 1806
from Hancock Co., GA, to Baldwin Co. (the part of which became Putnam
Co. when it was formed in 1807 from Baldwin). William Barron sold his
Putnam Co. land in Dec 1817, at which time he bought land in Jasper Co.
(the portion of which became Newton Co. when it was formed in 1821).]
2. Thomas Barron, b. 27 Oct 1793, d. after 1858, m. Elizabeth Doss on 2
Jan 1817, Putnam Co., GA
[This Thomas Barron moved to Harris Co., GA, by 1850 and then on to Pike
Co., AL, by 1860. More on him below.]
3. Mary Elizabeth (Polly) Barron, b. 5 Sept 1796, d. 25 Dec 1854, m.
John Roquemore on 5 Aug 1813 [Note: This is the birthdate from her
parents' Bible; this date differs from the birthdate on her grave
marker.] This couple resided in Newton Co., GA.
4. Henry Barron, b. 8 Nov 1801, d. 12 Aug 1880, m. 1) Elizabeth
Strickland (b. 30 Dec 1799; d. 13 Dec 1842), m. 2) Penelope Eidson (b.
10 June 1809) on 19 Nov 1843. This family primarily resided in Butts
Co., GA.
5. Joseph Barron, b. Oct 1803, d. 27 July 1839 at Emmaus, Troup Co., GA,
m. Sarah Graham Hays (b. 8 Nov 1804, d. 1 Oct 1878, Smith Co., TX) on 30
July 1822, Newton Co., GA.
[Joseph Barron's descendants moved to Pike Co., AL; Smith Co., TX;
Columbia Co., Ark; and Chambers Co., AL.]
6. Smith Barron, b. Aug 1805, d. 1868, m. (1) Lucy N. Reeves in Jasper
Co. GA on 6 April 1824 in Jasper Co., GA; m. 2) Sarah Graham Hays (widow
of his brother Joseph) in 1847.
Smith Barron had children by both wives. Shortly after his second
marriage to his brother Joseph's widow, Smith Barron moved to Coosa Co.,
AL, where he appears in the 1850 census. By 1860 this family was in Pike
Co., AL, where they lived in the Hephzibah community (post office: Pea
River). The widowed Sarah Graham (Hays) Barron moved in 1868 to Smith
Co., TX with some of her married children.
7. John Barron, b. 5 March 1810, d. 26 Nov 1830, m. Susan Farr in Newton
Co., GA on 20 Sept 1827.
[Note: Jaral Meadows, descendant of John's brother Thomas, shows this
John Barron to have died in Butts Co., GA.]
Also, here are comments on the above children of William Barron, Jr., as
written by John Davis Garrard in his 1892 letter:
"The heirs of William Barron, Jr., of Newton County:
1. James Barron of Meriwether County, the father of Dr. Barron of Troy
[Pike Co.--DS], AL.
[Note from DS: John Davis Garrard states earlier in his letter that this
James Barron is the son that William and Martha Barron first lived with
after they "broke up" housekeeping.]
2. Rev. Thomas Barron of Whitesville, Harris County, Georgia, the
grandfather of Rev. Alonzo C. Barron, editor of the _Baltimore Baptist._
3. Joseph Barron of Troup Co., GA.
4. Smith Barron of the lower part of Meriwether County or the upper part
of Talbot County.
5. Henry Barron of Butts County and later of Walton County, Georgia.
[Note from DS: Henry Barron moved back to Butts Co. as he died there in
1880. This is the son William Barron, Jr. (m. Martha Smith) was living
with at the time of his death in 1848.]
6. Mary Elizabeth Barron (Mrs. John Roquemore of Newton County,
Georgia)."
[Note: John Davis Garrard inadvertently omitted his uncle William
Barron's youngest son, John Barron, who married Susan Farr in 1827, and
who died just three years after this marriage. My opinion is that this
Barron/Farr marriage is what Hiram Garrard vaguely remembered when his
son John Davis Garrard said William Barron's wife was Martha Farr (i.e.,
he confused the Barron generations as to who married the Farr wife)].
Also, here are some notes I have on Thomas Barron, son of William and
Martha Barron. These were written by a cousin of mine who researched
William Barron's family back in the 1960s:
Children of Rev. Thomas Barron and wife Elizabeth Doss: John W. Barron,
Jane Barron, James Barron, and Susan Barron (m. Joshua Meadows of Pike
Co., AL). This Thomas Barron was in the 1850 Harris Co., GA, census. He
was a deacon at the 1858 organization of the Hephzibah Baptist Church
there in Pike Co., AL, near Troy. He died in Pike Co., AL.
Also, from Jaral Meadows, direct descendant of Thomas Barron and wife
Elizabeth Doss, I have the following information on the children of this
couple (I do not think this is a complete list):
1. Susan BARRON, b. 1827, Putnam Co., Georgia, d: 1890 in Texas, m.
Joshua T. MEADOWS (b. 10 Apr 1824 in (Warren) Georgia, d. 15 May 1865 in
Pike Co., Alabama
2. William BARRON, b. 1827
3. Sarah BARRON, b. 1830, GA, d: 14 Jan 1900, Little Oak, Pike Co.,
Alabama, m. James Martin MEADOWS (b. 25 Aug 1827, Harris Co., GA, d. 11
Jun 1893 in Little Oak, Pike Co., Alabama
Again, this is the information I have received from other researchers as
to Thomas Barron (m. Elizabeth Doss) and his descendants.
Could this Thomas Barron be the Major Thomas G. Barron referenced in the
1833 Jasper Co. newspaper article? Even though Thomas Barron (son of
William) was in the area (Putnam Co.) at that time and would have been
40 years old in 1833, I have never seen his records indicate any middle
initial. Thus, I think it more likely that the newspaper reference is to
Thomas Green Barron, son of Samuel.
**********************
Joyce, I have a question for you regarding one of your earlier posts to
the list:
<quote from Joyce McMurry>
These families all listed 1820 Jasper Co.Census;
John BARRON ma Polly HEAD 17 March 1811-Jasper Co
William BARRON AGE 45/UP-1820.Was he the father of John??
Also listed 1820--Thos and James BARRON
<unquote>
I, too, have seen John, William, Thomas, and James Barron listed in the
1820 GA census index as being enumerated in Jasper Co. However, I
recently tried to locate these entries in the microfilmed census, and
even after going through the entire county twice, I could only find
William and James. I'm not saying Thomas and John aren't in there, only
that I could not find them (the 1820 GA census index doesn't include
page numbers).
Thus, do you have the household information for Thomas Barron and John
Barron in 1820? I would be interested in this information, in addition
to knowing who their neighbors are.
I, too, am interested in determining the identify of your John Barron
(m. Polly Head in 1811 Jasper Co.). I'm still wondering if he could
possibly be part of the family of Thomas Barron (m. Obedience Rogers)
who moved from Edgecombe Co., NC, to Wilkes Co., GA, by 1786. I say this
because the Oliver and Head families were in Wilkes Co. (and Elbert Co.)
along with Thomas Barron. In fact, the Olivers were listed two doors up
from Thomas Barron in the same Wilkes Co. militia district in the 1780s.
The part of Wilkes Co. that Thomas Barron (and the Heads and Olivers)
resided in became part of Elbert Co. when it was formed in 1790 from
Wilkes. Then in 1853 Hart Co. was formed from part of Elbert Co.
Also, I would be interested in knowing who some of the early associates
of your John Barron (m. Polly Head) are. That could help in determining
a previous residence.
Donna Sarchet
Plainview, TX
<sarchet@texasonline.net>
Joyce McMurray wrote:
>
> I recieved a book Newspaper Abstracts Jasper Co. Today...
> These items;
> 7 May 1827
> Notice.All person are hereby cautioned from trading for a bond by the
> subscriber to Thomas Camp, three tracts of land...14th dist now DeKalb
> Co...7th dist Henry Co...66 acres of land on the old boundary of Jasper
> Co. adj.. William Barron and Lewis Hogg...signed James L. and Moses
> Trimble...
>
> 9 May 1833
>
> Headquarters,5th Division, G.M......vise Major Thomas G.Barron ...
>
> My question does anyone on the list have any information on these two
> Barron Men......My John Barron was in Jasper Co. before going to Carroll
> Co.GA. Joyce
Quoted response to the above post that also appeared on the Jasper Co.,
GA, list:
> Hi Joyce,
>
> I have some information on a Barron family, possibly the same one you are
> interested in. I have been watching your posts from the Columbus
> newspaper, hoping you'll post the one thing I've been watching for, which I
> believe ties into the Barron family.
>
> What I have is John and Samuel Barron in Hancock Co. before 1800, possibly
> but not positively connected to Thomas and James Barron in Jasper and
> Putnam Co. The connection of interest to me with these men is one JOHN
> DOSS, who I believe was probably the father-in-law of the last two
> mentioned. Records show that Thomas Barron married Elizabeth Doss in 1817
> in Putnam Co. and James Barron m. Polly Doss in 1812 in Putnam. Other
> records put these people all in Jasper Co. ca. 1820.
>
> Recently I learned that Thomas Barron may have moved to Harris Co. Ga.,
> where an old man named John Doss died between 1840 and 1842. I'm hoping
> you'll find a newspaper obit that will pin down that date and perhaps list
> some family members. His will mentions only son James and wife Sarah, but
> refers to other heirs.
>
> I'll be happy to exchange information with you on the Barrons. I've been
> collecting all I can find on them recently.
>
> Libbie Griffin
Date: 4/29/2000 8:20:55 PM Central Daylight Time
From: YukiYama2
To: JBarron933
Can anyone help with this branch of the Barrons??
Some of the names are the same as in the previous message. It has been very frustrating to not be able to trace my line (not an unusual predicament! )
Listed on John Barron's web site is:
AL 1860, Pike Co. (Monticella, p. 277)
#648 Barron, J. M.m w farmer $300 $215 GA (1832)
Sabra 42 f w GA (1818)
Sarah 22 f w GA (1838)
John W. 15 m w AL (1845)
Elizabeth 13 f w AL (1847)
Martha 14 f w AL (1846)
James 9 m w AL (1851)
Randolph 5 m w AL (1855)
B. Lafayette 1 m w AL (1859)
My GGrandmother was the Nancy ELIZABETH mentioned here. I know her mother and father were Joseph M. and Sabra Bryant Barron. I heard my grandmother mention Uncle Randolph Barron and an Oscar Barron. My father mentioned a French Grandmother. The name Lafayette of the last child seems to fit into that story of having French ancestors. The J. M. Barron here must be the oldest son of Sabra and Joseph, but is the 22 yr old, Sarah , his wife or sister? and is the youngest child his son or brother?? I would make a difference as to the approximate death date of his father. I have not come across the names Randolph, Sabra, B. Lafayette, or Oscar in any other material yet. Those names aren't as common as many others, but they never seem to show up. Has anyone come across any of them? It seems strange with such a large family that I cannot find any descendents.
It was also interesting to note that this line has the son of Samuel Barron, Thomas Green Barron marryin a Joanna Braswell. My Great-Grandmother, Nancy Elizabeth Barron also married a Braswell (John Henry Wade Braswell)...another line I am having trouble tracing!
I would appreciate any help.
You can write me at YukiYama2@aol.com. or answer to the list if you think it would interest others searching also.
Thank you.
Carol Brewton Forney
Date: 4/30/2000 8:46:47 AM Central Daylight Time
From: DRREESE66
To: JBarron933
John-I can find no info to provide the ancestry that Carol Forney is looking for, but I will make a few comments on the info she provided:
1. J. M. Barron is probably not the son of Sabra unless the 1832 date is wrong, in which case, he could also be her husband. She was only14 in 1832.
2. Given state of birth, GA, Sarah is likely the wife of J.M.
3. The children John to James are most probably Sabra's. The 7 year difference between Sarah and John W. is further support for this. Given the comment "Uncle Randolph", Randolph also is likely Sabra's son.
4. The B. Lafayette could be Sabra's, but since no husband is listed for her and he was born only one year earlier, it is more likely he is the son of J.M./Sarah.
5. The only certain French connection I know of with the Barrons where the Barron was a male is John marrying Frances Garrard. Garrard is certainly French, I do not know the nationality of Braswell, but unless the spelling was changed it does not sound French. From the limited info I have, this Joseph M. was not a descendent of William, Jr.
6. I would not place any emphasis on the name Lafayette. It could be a hand down name from the French connection, but many American families after the American Revolution named sons Lafayette. Wonder what the B. stands for, Lafayette had a number of given names, but none began with "B".
Dave Reese