_John VANBEBBER , Sr_+
| (.... - 1818)
_Isaac VANBEBBER ____|
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| |_Margaret CHRISMAN __+
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_James Claiborne "Santiago" VANBIBBER _|
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| | _____________________
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| |_Mary MARTIN ________|
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| |_____________________
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|--Richard "Ricardo" VANBIBBER
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|_Anestaria FLORES _____________________|
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|_____________________|
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_Isaac VAN BEBBER ___+
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_James VAN BEBBER _______|
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| |_Hannah LONG ________
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_Isaac Franklin VANBIBBER _|
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| | _____________________
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| |_Elizabeth Jane SNUFFER _|
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| |_____________________
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|--Rufus Ernest VANBIBBER
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| _____________________
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| _________________________|
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|_Louisa Ellen SHARP _______|
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| _____________________
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|_________________________|
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|_____________________
_Cyrus VANBIBBER ___________+
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_Cyrus VANBIBBER , Jr_|
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| |_Mary S. Rachel TIMBERLAKE _
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_Lamard VANBIBBER ___|
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| | ____________________________
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| |_Sophia BAKER ________|
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| |____________________________
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|--Ruth VANBIBBER
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| ____________________________
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| ______________________|
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| | |____________________________
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|_Annie Laurie HILL __|
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| ____________________________
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|______________________|
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|____________________________
_Peter VAN BIBBER , Sr._+
| (1695 - 1769)
_Peter VAN BIBBER , Jr.______________|
| (.... - 1796) m 1756 |
| |_Anna GOODING __________
| (1696 - 1732)
_Jacob VANBIBBER ____|
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| | _James BOUNDS , Sr______+
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| |_Marguery (Major Or Marjory) BOUNDS _|
| (1740 - 1844) m 1756 |
| |_Ann DYKES _____________+
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|--Ruth A. VANBIBBER
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| ________________________
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| _____________________________________|
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|_Sarah MILLER _______|
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| ________________________
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|_____________________________________|
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|________________________
_Isaac Michael Van Bibber, REVEREND _+
| (1724 - 1774)
_Isaac Michael VAN BIBBER Jr., Capt._|
| (1771 - 1840) m 1797 |
| |_Sarah DAVIS ________________________
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_Ewing A. VAN BIBBER _|
| m 1835 |
| | _William HAYS _______________________
| | | (1754 - 1804) m 1775
| |_Elizabeth HAYS _____________________|
| (1776 - 1828) m 1797 |
| |_Susannah BOONE _____________________+
| (1760 - 1800) m 1775
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|--Samuel C. VANBIBBER
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|_Sarah COURTNEY ______|
m 1835 |
| _____________________________________
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|_____________________________________|
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|_____________________________________
_Peter VAN BIBBER , Jr.______________+
| (.... - 1796) m 1756
_James VAN BIBBER ____|
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| |_Marguery (Major Or Marjory) BOUNDS _+
| (1740 - 1844) m 1756
_Joseph VAN BIBBER __|
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| | _____________________________________
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| |_Jane IRVINE _________|
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| |_____________________________________
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|--Sarah VANBIBBER
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| _Daniel BOONE , Col._________________+
| | (1734 - 1820) m 1756
| _Nathan BOONE , Capt._|
| | (1781 - 1856) m 1799 |
| | |_Rebecca Ann BRYAN __________________+
| | (1739 - 1813) m 1756
|_Susan BOONE ________|
(1806 - ....) |
| _Peter VAN BIBBER , Jr.______________+
| | (.... - 1796) m 1756
|_Olive VAN BIBBER ____|
(1783 - 1858) m 1799 |
|_Marguery (Major Or Marjory) BOUNDS _+
(1740 - 1844) m 1756
[1206]
Peter VanBibber, Jr. and Marguery Bounds
James VanBibber and Jane Irvine
Joseph VanBibber and Susan Boone
Sarah VanBibber and Alsa Woodward
Edna A. Woodward and Sidney J. Doggett
--and--
Peter VanBibber, Jr. and Marguery Bounds
Olive VanBibber and Nathan Boone
Susan Boone and Joseph VanBibber
Sarah VanBibber and Alsa Woodward
Edna A. Woodward and Sidney J. Doggett
An Illustrated History of North Idaho Embracing Nez Perces, Idaho, Latah, Kootenai and Shoshone Counties - State of Idaho, Western Historical Publishing Company, Pages 295-296, 1903.
Van Bibber Pioneers E-Newsletter, Vol. 6 No. 10 - August 2003
_Peter VAN BIBBER , Sr._+
| (1695 - 1769)
_Peter VAN BIBBER , Jr.______________|
| (.... - 1796) m 1756 |
| |_Anna GOODING __________
| (1696 - 1732)
_Jacob VANBIBBER ____|
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| | _James BOUNDS , Sr______+
| | |
| |_Marguery (Major Or Marjory) BOUNDS _|
| (1740 - 1844) m 1756 |
| |_Ann DYKES _____________+
|
|
|--Solomon VANBIBBER
|
| ________________________
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| _____________________________________|
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| | |________________________
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|_Sarah MILLER _______|
|
| ________________________
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|_____________________________________|
|
|________________________
_Peter VAN BIBBER , Sr._+
| (1695 - 1769)
_John VAN BIBBER , Capt._|
| (1734 - 1820) m 1760 |
| |_Anna GOODING __________
| (1696 - 1732)
_James VANBIBBER ____|
| |
| | ________________________
| | |
| |_Chloe STANIFORD ________|
| (1772 - ....) m 1760 |
| |________________________
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|--Sydney VANBIBBER
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| ________________________
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| _________________________|
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| | |________________________
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|_Lois REYNOLDS ______|
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| ________________________
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|_________________________|
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|________________________
_Richard "Ricardo" VANBIBBER _+
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_James "Santiago" VANBIBBER _|
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| |_Marina NIETO ________________
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_Louis Eliud VANBIBBER _|
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| | ______________________________
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| |_Elvira RECIO _______________|
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| |______________________________
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|--Sylvia Ann VANBIBBER
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| ______________________________
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| _____________________________|
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|_Angelica GARZA ________|
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| ______________________________
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|_____________________________|
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|______________________________
[1067]
I am looking for that missing link which would connect my family line to the early Van Bibbers. The following is what I know:
My father was Louis Eliud Van Bibber born December 8, 1921 in Baytown, Harris County, Texas. He died on November 22, 2002. My mother was Angelica Garza born May 26, 1927 and died on May 10, 2001.
My grandfather was James Van Bibber who was born in February of 1897 in Mexico and died September 27, 1947 in Mexico. James spent his life living between Mexico and the state of Texas. While living in Texas he went by the name of James. This is evident as he was recorded as James on the 1930 census living in Houston, Harris County, Texas. While living in Mexico he went by the name of Santiago which is the Mexican/Spanish version for James. My grandfather married Elvira Recio who was born on January 30, 1888 in Mexico and died in 1984 in Houston. To this marriage were three sons, Louis, David and Robert. On the 1930 census it states James was born in Mexico along with his parents.
My great grandfather was Richard Van Bibber. Once again, he spent time between Mexico and Texas. While in Mexico he went by the name "Ricardo." While in Texas he went by "Richard." I have his death certificate which states he died on January 24, 1926 in Houston, Texas. It states he was 65 years old and born in Mexico. Being 65 years old at his death, this puts him born about 1861. The death certificate states his parents were Santiago Van Bibber and Anestaria Flores, both being born in Mexico. Richard was married to Marina Nieto.
What my dad taught me, and what his dad taught him, is that the Van Bibbers were not Mexicans and originally came from Holland. In my line back to my great grandfather, they all married Mexican women and spent time living in Mexico. Now, with that said, my question is, who is Santiago Van Bibber, my first great grandfather? Once again, Santiago is the Mexican/Spanish version for James. I am basically looking for a James Van Bibber who would be old enough to father a child in 1861. Also, passed down through the family, Richard's father served in the United States Army during the Mexican War time frame. Can anyone put me on the right track in identifying my great grandfather James "Santiago" Van Bibber?
Submitted by Sylvia Van Bibber
Sylvia,
It is a high probability that the James Van Bibber you are trying to identify is James Claiborne Van Bebber/Van Bibber the son of Isaac Van Bebber and Mary Martin of Claiborne County, Tennessee. I will provide you with the information I have on him.
James C. can be located on the 1850 census of Webb County, Texas. This county is right along the Mexican border and is where the present day town of Laredo is. He is living in the home of F. R. Taylor. James is listed as being 33 years old, born in Tennessee and his occupation is listed as clerk. The name is spelled "Van Bibber." This census can be viewed on the Van Bibber website under the 1850 census records. By the way, he is the only Van Bibber listed on the 1850 census for the state of Texas. There was a John Van Bibber who lived in Victoria, Texas, but he went to California for the gold rush. He eventually returned and this is where he died. An excellent article on John Van Bibber can be read in the Van Bibber newsletter for June 2003.
John and James were 2nd cousins once removed and may very well have known each other even though one family was from Greenup County, Kentucky while the other was from Claiborne County, Tennessee. I have some court records in 1854 where James appointed and fully empowered John as an authorized agent to collect all or any money that may be due to him within the state of Texas. James filed this in the court at Webb County on March 1, 1854. There is a witness that states he knew James C. as he was in the vicinity of Victoria between the years of 1840 - 1843. This tells us that James C. left Claiborne County and spent time in and around Victoria in the early 1840's. The question is, did he know of John before he was in the vicinity of Victoria or did he meet him while there and realized they were cousins.
Eventually James C. would return to Tennessee as he enlisted in the US Army on June 15, 1846 at Memphis to serve for a term of 12 months. The Mexican War was from April 25, 1846, when both forces clashed, until the peace treaty was signed on February 2, 1848. This means James C. did serve in the US Army during the Mexican War.
As mentioned above, James C. is living in Webb County, Texas in 1850. In 1854 he authorizes John Van Bibber to collect all or any money that may be due to him within the state of Texas. I have always wondered why he authorized John to do this for him. Was it because he had plans to move to Mexico and wanted to entrust someone to collect payments for him back in the United States? Very possible!!
The next information we have on James C. is where he was to receive $50.00 from the Last Will and Testament of his father, Isaac Van Bebber, Esq., that was written on January 31, 1859 in Claiborne County, Tennessee.
When the 1860 census was recorded for the state of Texas, James C. was not listed. I cannot find any additional information on him from the Texas records. What is very possible, after John was authorized to collect for him in 1854, James traveled over into Mexico to live. While there, he used the name Santiago and this is where he married Anestaria Flores, and lived the remainder of his life. A son, Richard "Ricardo" Van Bibber was born about 1861 in Mexico. With his father being an American citizen, and even though Richard was born in Mexico, it probably gave him the flexibility to move back and forth between the two countries which he did. Richard married Marina Nieto and they would have the son James, named after the grandfather. James also lived between the two countries and went by the name Santiago while in Mexico.
Van Bibber Pioneers newsletter Vol. 6 No. 9 - July 2003
Submitted by Gary R. Hawpe
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blogan/v6n9.html
_Cyrus VANBIBBER ___________+
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_Cyrus VANBIBBER , Jr_|
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| |_Mary S. Rachel TIMBERLAKE _
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_Lamard VANBIBBER ___|
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| | ____________________________
| | |
| |_Sophia BAKER ________|
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| |____________________________
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|--Vernon Merrill VANBIBBER
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| ____________________________
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| ______________________|
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| | |____________________________
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|_Annie Laurie HILL __|
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| ____________________________
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|______________________|
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|____________________________
[1080]
Greenup Ky - Services for Vernon Merrill Vanbibber, 67 of Load, are to be conducted at 1 p.m. Tuesday at Antioch Christian Church of which he was a member.
Vanbibber, a farmer and native of Greenup County, died Saturday after suffering an apparent heart attack at home.
Surviving are his wife, Edna Meadows Vanbibber; a son Ralph of Melbourne, Fla.; a brother, Amos of Ashland; two sisters, Mrs. Ruth Garvey of Vanceburg and Mrs. Bess Kendall of Raceland; two grandchildren and two great grandchildren.
Ezra Williams, minister is to officiate at services. Burial is to be in Bellefonte Memorial Gardens.
Friends may call at J. B. Wright Funeral Home at Greenup after 5 p.m. today. The body is to be taken to the church an hour before services Tuesday.
Portsmouth Daily Times -- Portsmouth, Scioto County, Ohio -- March 29, 1976
Submitted by Bruce Logan
Van Bibber Pioneers newsletter VVol. 6 No. 8 - Jun 2003.htm
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blogan/v6n8.html