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_Athon de COURTENAY ________________________|
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_Josceline de COURTENAY _|
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_Milo de COURTENAY ___|
| | _Bouchard Siegneur de Montmorency_
| | _Thibaud Seigneur de Bray & Montlhery__|_Elizabeth de Crecy_______________
| | _Guy I Seigneur de Montlhery________________|
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| |_Isabel de Montlhery_____|
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| | _William de Gometz Seneschal of France_|__________________________________
| |_Hodierne de Gometz ________________________|
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|--Renaud Seigneur de Courtenay
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| _Landry C of Nevers & Auxerre_____
| _Renaud I C of Nevers & Auxerre________|_Matilda of Burgundy______________
| _William I C of Nevers, Auxerre, & Tonnerre_|
| | | _Robert II K of France____________
| | |_Havoise (Adelaide) of France__________|_Constance of Provence____________
| _Renaud II C of Nevers___|
| | | _Milon II C of Tonnerre___________
| | | _Renaud C of Tonnerre__________________|_Ermengarde ______________________
| | |_Ermengarde of Tonnerre_____________________|
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| | |_Hervise ______________________________|__________________________________
|_Ermengarde de Nevers_|
| _Giraud II C of Forez_____________
| _Artaud IV C of Forez__________________|_Adelaide de Gevaudan_____________
| _Artaud V C of Forez________________________|
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| | |_Raymonde _____________________________|__________________________________
|_Ida de Forez____________|
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|_Ide _______________________________________|
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Josceline/Hawise as parents of ELIZABETH.
Europaische Stammtafeln iii, 629, and the essay on "Devon" in
Complete Peerage, iv, 308-338 (see esp. chart on p. 317) agree that he
was son of MILO & ERMENGARDE and RENAUD was their son. These sources
also give this Renaud's second wife as Maud, dau. of Robert FitzEdith,
prob. d.s.p.
Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (138:26), states that he was of unknown
parentage and makes the comment that, Ezra Cleveland's, "A Genealogical
History of the Noble and Illustrious Family of Courtenay" (1735)
identifies Renaud as MILO's son and that "The story is told that the great
possessions in France of Renaud de Courtenay (a man of high social rank
and described in personal terms as in effect a glorified bandit) were
siezed about 1150 by KING LOUIS VII [(RIN 1530)] who granted them to
his own youngest brother PIERRE (ancestor of the French Courtenays),
with Renaud's daughter, ELIZABETH, in marriage, and that Renaud then
appeared in England as a minor functionary of the English court with a
small manor and another family. Line breaks here. Although old CP III
102 states that the alleged connection between the English and French
families has not been established, CP IV 317 inexplicably revived the
connection. Herbert F. Seversmith, "The Ancestry of Roger Ludlow", pp.
2419-2424, in addition to demonstrating the lack of contemporary
evidence, points out the chronological, personal character, and social
status difficulties with this identification."
I do not recall my source for the Hawise D'Aubrincis marriage.