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Susannah C WEBBER

Father: Richard WEBBER
Mother: Lucy WEBBER

Family 1: Charles Jones BIBBER
  1. Susan Frances BIBBER
  2. Henry A BIBBER
  3. Charles Harmon BIBBER
  4. Lucy Helen BIBBER
  5. Evelyn BIBBER
  6. Julia A BIBBER
  7. Adelaide BIBBER
  8. George C BIBBER
  9. Eugene Cyrus BIBBER

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                                      _Jonathan WEBBER _|
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                   _Jonathan WEBBER _|
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                  |                  |_Marjory COOMBS __|
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 _Richard WEBBER _|
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|                 |_Harriet HAYES ___|
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|--Susannah C WEBBER 
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|_Lucy WEBBER ____|
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Notes

From the Bibber/Campbell genealogy database on Ancestry.com.


Created by Sparrowhawk 1.0 (4/17/1996) on Wed Aug 27 01:30:20 2003
I9639: Matilda CROSSMAN (ABT 1867 - )

Matilda CROSSMAN

Father: James Spencer CROSSMAN
Mother: Maria CROSMAN

Family 1: Major Charles Gerraty MURRAY
  1. Victoria Harriet MURRAY

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                           _UNKNOWN CROSSMAN _|
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 _James Spencer CROSSMAN _|
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|--Matilda CROSSMAN 
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|                          _John B CROSMAN ___|
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|_Maria CROSMAN __________|
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                          |_Margaret KINLEY __|
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Notes

Matilda is most likely the mother of Harriet Victoria Murray, but no definitive proof has been found to substantiate this.

. Letter dated 28 Feb 2003 from Robert E. Pierce, New Dominion, Cornwall RR#2, PEI, Canada, COA 1HO (a professional genealogist):

. "I have checked all possible sources, made inquiries with several colleagues, and can find no primary material that identifies the parents of Harriet Victoria Murray, the adopted daughter of Charles and Elizabeth Murray, of Lot 21, P.E.I.. The 1901 census indicates Harriet is their adopted daughter. In 1885 there was no formal adoption process, whereby a family would register an adoption, or apply to adopt a child. The family would have a very strict church upbringing and to save embarrassment the child would simply be taken in as their own. It was the practice of that time period. No records were kept by the government until well after 1900, and even today they are inaccessible. The French maid story to me is probably family lore, but in reality if Harriet was French she would almost definitely be Roman Catholic, and would never be raised in the Murray's faith. I believe that where the French arises is that Elizabeth Sellick was raised in an area of P.E.I. that is predominantly of French ancestry.

. As I indicated in an earlier email, the 1881 census notes a 14 year old, Matilda Crosssman, as living in the Murray household. Matilda is the daughter of James S. Crossman and Maria Crosssman (both were Crossmans) [Note that in the "Crosman Family File", James' surname is spelled with double "s" and Maria's with a single "s", but the spelling of this name in the 19th century could have been quite arbitrary] of St. Eleanors, P.E.I.. (source: Crossman family file, P.E.I. Archives). The Crossman family belonged to the [same] church as the Murrays. On Sept. 2, 1877, the widower James Spencer Crossman married Hannah Jane Corney.

. The 1881 census for the Crossman family makes no mention of Matilda, there are 3 daughters and one son. James dies in 1882 after an illness of 6 months. His obit says he leaves 6 children. Where are the other two daughters from the first marriage in the 1881 census? Maybe they were not able to get along with the step-mother.

. Something else that caught my attention about Harriet Victoria:

. Matilda Crossman had an Aunt named Harriet. As was the second name of Elizabeth, Charles' wife.

. The Murrays liked to honor their British heritage by naming their children after English heroes, Nelson - Lord Nelson, Wellington - Duke of Wellington, Victoria - Queen Victoria.

. Unfortunately the 1891 census for Lot 21, the area in which the Murrays lived, is lost. It would have been interesting to see what that census said about the Murray household. In 1891 Major is married, he and his 20 year old wife have a child, but living in Lot 67. I checked the will of Major J G Murray, who died Dec 25, 1939, to see if any mention was made of Harriet. None.

. I suspect, but cannot prove, that in 1884-1885 the 17 year olds, Major and Matilda, gave birth to Harriet Victoria. I doubt if the proof will ever be found.

"the Crosman Family File", compiled by Dr. & Mrs. Wayne Preston, 1879 Falconer Ct., Vista CA, 92083 [Placed in 1992 at the Public Archives of Prince Edward Island], identifies Matilda as daughter of James & Maria. Source: Everett McKinnon. No vital statistics given. No spouse or children mentioned.

It would appear that Alice & Matilda were twins as 1881 census records say they were both age 14.


Created by Sparrowhawk 1.0 (4/17/1996) on Wed Aug 27 01:30:20 2003 I8331: Wanda Anne SUHANIK (3 NOV 1944 - )

Wanda Anne SUHANIK

Father: Joseph Richard SUHANIK
Mother: Wanda PIECHOCKI

Family 1: Paul Willard ABERNATHY
  1. Anne Elizabeth ABERNATHY
  2. Karen Anne ABERNATHY
  3. Katherine Marie ABERNATHY
Family 2: William Alan BEACH
  1. NO CHILDREN
Family 3: Patrick
  1. NO CHILDREN

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                                                      _Paul SUCHANIC _|
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                           _Andrew Joseph SUHANIC ___|
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                          |                          |_Maria GIBEL ___|
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 _Joseph Richard SUHANIK _|
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|                         |                           _John KOZAK ____|
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|                         |_Anna Sophia KOZAK _______|
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|                                                    |_Anna CECH _____|
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|--Wanda Anne SUHANIK 
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|                          _Waclaw PIECHOCKI ________|
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|_Wanda PIECHOCKI ________|
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                          |_Stanislawa GONSIDROWSKI _|
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Notes

Known as Boots.


Created by Sparrowhawk 1.0 (4/17/1996) on Wed Aug 27 01:30:20 2003 I4272: Robert de BEAUMONT* C of Meulan ( - 1207)

Robert de BEAUMONT* C of Meulan

Father: Waleran de BEAUMONT* C of Meulan
Mother: Agnes de MONTFORT*

Family 1: Maud* of Cornwall
  1. Maud de BEAUMONT*

                                                                                                                                                  _Thorold Seigneur de Pont-Audemer__
                                                                                                                _Humfrey de Vieilles de Vieilles_|_Avelina de Crepon_________________
                                                                        _Roger de BEAUMONT ____________________|
                                                                       |                                       |                                  ___________________________________
                                                                       |                                       |_Aubreye de La Haie______________|___________________________________
                                    _Robert de BEAUMONT E of Leicester_|
                                   |                                   |                                                                          _Robert C of Meulan________________
                                   |                                   |                                        _Waleran C of Meulan_____________|_Alix de Vexin_____________________
                                   |                                   |_Adeliza of Meulan_____________________|
                                   |                                                                           |                                  _Jean de BURGO Baron Tonsburgh_____
                                   |                                                                           |_Oda de BURGO ___________________|___________________________________
 _Waleran de BEAUMONT* C of Meulan_|
|                                  |                                                                                                              _Robert II K of France_____________
|                                  |                                                                            _Henry I K of France_____________|_Constance of Provence_____________
|                                  |                                    _Hugh "the Great" D of Burgundy________|
|                                  |                                   |                                       |                                  _Jaroslav I "the Wise" GD of Kiev__
|                                  |                                   |                                       |_Anne of Kiev ___________________|_Ingegarde of Sweden_______________
|                                  |_Isabel of Vermandois______________|
|                                                                      |                                                                          _Otto C of Vermandois______________
|                                                                      |                                        _Herbert IV C of Vermandois______|_Parvie ___________________________
|                                                                      |_Adelaide of Vermandois________________|
|                                                                                                              |                                  _Raoul III "the Great" C of Valois_
|                                                                                                              |_Adele de Vexin__________________|_Adele of Bar-sur-Aube_____________
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|--Robert de BEAUMONT* C of Meulan
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|                                                                                                                                                 _William de Hainault_______________
|                                                                                                               _Amaury II de MONTFORT __________|___________________________________
|                                                                       _Simon I MONTFORT Seigneur de Montfort_|
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|                                                                      |                                       |_Bertrade _______________________|___________________________________
|                                   _Amaury IV de MONTFORT C of Evreux_|
|                                  |                                   |                                                                          _Robert D'EVREUX C of Evreux_______
|                                  |                                   |                                        _Richard D'EVREUX _______________|_Herleva __________________________
|                                  |                                   |_Agnes D'EVREUX _______________________|
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|                                  |                                                                           |_Adele __________________________|___________________________________
|_Agnes de MONTFORT* ______________|
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                                   |                                                                            _William de GARLANDE ____________|___________________________________
                                   |                                    _Anseau de GARLANDE C of Rochefort_____|
                                   |                                   |                                       |                                  ___________________________________
                                   |                                   |                                       |_________________________________|___________________________________
                                   |_Agnes de GARLANDE ________________|
                                                                       |                                                                          _Guy I Seigneur de Montlhery_______
                                                                       |                                        _Guy II S de Montlhery___________|_Hodierne de Gometz _______________
                                                                       |_UNKNOWN of Montlhery__________________|
                                                                                                               |                                  _Bouchard II C of Corbeil__________
                                                                                                               |_Elise of Corbeil________________|_Adelaide of Crecy_________________

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Notes

Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:26).

Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (appendix I to v.VII, pp. 739-740). In 1173

he adhered to Henry "the Young king" against his father, KING HENRY II

(RIN 761), but was reconciled to THE KING. Holding lands in both France

and Normandy, the conflict between PHILIP AUGUSTUS, KING OF FRANCE

(RIN 3163) and the English Kings placed him in a difficult position and

ultimately brought about his ruin. In 1188, when KING PHILIP took

Vendome he captured 62 knights which Robert had sent to assist in the

defense. In 1193 Robert adhered to KING PHILIP, resulting the next year

in King Richard I of England (RIN 7161) capturing his castle at Beaumont.

In 1196 Robert had again changed sides. After 1188 he established a

commune at Meulan on the model of that granted to Pontoise by KING

PHILIP. Robert was caught in the struggle between JOHN (RIN 785), the

new King of England and PHILIP AUGUSTUS. At first, Robert appears to

have wavered, but in 1203 gave his support to KING JOHN. A month later,

Robert's son, Piers, handed Beaumont castle over to KING PHILIP. In

addition to his lands on the continent, Robert held possessions in England

also. In a desparate attempt to save his position, in 1204 he handed all

of his English estates over to his daughter, Maud and her husband,

William de Reviers, Earl of Devon. KING JOHN, however seized all of his

English estates and KING PHILIP all of his continental lands. By this

time his three sons were all dead. He died a ruined man, prob c.1207, but

certainly by 1212.


Created by Sparrowhawk 1.0 (4/17/1996) on Wed Aug 27 01:30:20 2003