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Oda

Family 1: Liudolf D of Saxony
  1. Otto "The Illustrious" D of Saxony

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Notes

Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (141:16) gives Oda as OTTO's mother. No

attempt is made to identify Oda's parents.

See the following note, whch presents the possibility that Oda was the

daughter of BILLIUNG, DUKE OF SAXONY and his wife, Aeda. (RIN 2164).

AEDA is theorized to be a daughter of PEPIN, KING OF ITALY (RIN 1194)

and granddaughter of CHARLEMAGNE.

Subject: Ottonian descent from Charlemagne

Date: 1997/04/28

Author: Matman

. "I came across this descent when I was looking up Henry the Fowler's

ancestry, in an article by E. Hlawitschka in Rheinische

Vierteljahrblatter, 1974, p128 . . .

. The evidence/argument for this descent goes like this:

There are a number of entries among a large collection of documents

concerning the abbey of Corvey in Westphalia, Germany (_Codex

traditionum Corbeiensium_, ed. J.Falke) concerning the ancestry of

Countess Oda, wife of Ludolf, and grandmother of Henry the Fowler.

. These are:

_Nata fuit Oda ex Aeda seu Attala Caroli Magni filii anno 806_

(Falke, p760). That is "In the year 806 was born Oda by Aeda-Attala,

daughter of Charles the Great".

. There is a charter of the Bishop of Halberstadt in 1121, which

mentions _comitissa Oda regia stirpe orta_. That is "Countess Oda

descended (or born of) the royal line"

. As Oda died in 913, it would seem unlikely that she was 107,

moreover her own parents are usually said to be Billung and Aeda.

. However Hlawitschka suggests she was actually the daughter of a

daughter of Pippin IV of Italy (d.810). The evidence for this is:

. Another entry in these Corvey documents (K.Eckhardt, _Studia

Corbeiensia_, II, p477) mentions that countess Oda had founded a

community of nuns in honor of St.Laurent in 885. In this entry she is

called _Oda comitissa Pippin regis Italiae ex filia neptis_. That is

"Countess Oda _neptis_ of Pippin king of Italy, from a daughter." Now

_neptis_ can mean niece, but the traditional meaning I think, is

grand-daughter, which is the meaning which seems to make the most

sense here. So Oda was the grandaughter of Pippin IV, by one of his

daughters.

. Einhard in his life of Charles (ch. 19), mentions the 5 daughters of

king Pippin, who he says Charlemagne took care to bring up after the

death of his son. One of these was called Atula, another Adalheid.

. Putting all this evidence together, it would seem likely that this

Atula, daughter of Pippin of Italy, was the Aeda-Attala, who was

confused as a daughter of Charlemagne himself, who later married a man

called Billung, and was the mother of Oda, wife of Ludolf. Hlawitschka

goes on to suggest that it was this Aeda-Attala/Atula daughter of Pippin

of Italy who was born in 806, rather than Oda herself.

. This would mean however, that Luitgarde, daughter of Oda was

distantly related to her husband Louis II (d.882) of Germany."


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I11826: Joanna COBB (ABT 1742 - AFT 1783)

Joanna COBB

Father: Joseph COBB
Mother: Mary SAWYER

Family 1: Daniel SMALL
  1. Mercy C SMALL

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Created by Sparrowhawk 1.0 (4/17/1996) on Wed Aug 27 01:30:04 2003