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Ida (Countess)

• Reference: 5264

1. William de LONGESPEE E of Salisbury

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Notes

Weis' "Ancestral Roots" (30:26), calls him the natural son of HENRY II by

an unknown mistress (perhaps Alix de Porhoet).

Rosamond Clifford and Annabel Balliol have been put forth as his mother

by various scholars.

"Vickie (Elam) White" <102657.1616@COMPUSERVE.COM> posted to

soc.genealogy.medieval on 7 Feb 1997 (in part):

Subject: Re: Ridlesford - Longespee (was NESTA of Wales)

"I dont' know about the Ridelsford line, but Rosamonde CLIFFORD was

not the mother of William Longespee. Current thinking is that his

mother was IDA (RIN 1968), who later married ROGER BIGOD, 2d Earl of

Norfolk. Source: Gary Boyd Roberts' _Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants

to the American Colonies or the United States_ (1993). Evidently the

source used by Roberts was a charter of William Longespee published in

the _Cartulary of Bradenstoke Priory_ ed. by Vera C. M.London

(Publications of the Wiltshire Record Society, Vol. 35, 1979) which

explicitly named a "Countess Ida" as his mother. And William did name a

daughter Ida.

Also, there is evidently an article on her in The Genealogist Volume 3

(1982) pp. 265 - 266, which I have not seen. I don't know if this was

used as a source for Roberts' position.

I was told in February 1996 that there was a forthcoming article by

Douglas Richardson that would fully document this identification.

Does anyone know if this article has been published yet?"

"Charles Evans, in The Genealogist iii:265-6, cited a couple of charters

in which William Longespee names his mother as a Countess Ida. He then

suggested that she may have been Ida of Flanders, Countess of Boulogne

(RIN 8563) , daughter of Matthew of Alsace (165-26) and of Maud,

daughter of King Stephen."

--- Todd A. Farmerie, "Weis: Ancestral Roots, 7th Edition -

Corrections*, soc.genealogy.medieval (Internet newsgroup), 1 Aug 1995