_Catigern _______________________ _Cadell Ddyrnllug ____|_________________________________ _Cyngen Glodrydd ________________| | | _________________________________ | |______________________|_________________________________ _Brochwel Ysgythrog _| | | _Gwyngwen _______________________ | | _Brychan _____________|_________________________________ | |_Tudglid ________________________| | | _________________________________ | |______________________|_________________________________ _Cynan Garwyn K of Powys_| | | _Coel Hen Godebog K in N Britain_ | | _Ceneu K in N Britain_|_Ystradwal of Dumnonia___________ | | _Pabo Post Prydain K in Pennines_| | | | | _________________________________ | | | |______________________|_________________________________ | |_Arddun Benasgel ____| | | _________________________________ | | ______________________|_________________________________ | |_________________________________| | | _________________________________ | |______________________|_________________________________ | |--Tadreg Ddu of Powys | | _Domangart K of Dalriada_________ | _Gabran K of Dalriada_|_Fedelm Foltchain _______________ | _Aedan K of Dalriada_____________| | | | _Brychan of Manaw________________ | | |_Lluan _______________|_Mendog of Strathclyde___________ | _Domangart __________| | | | _________________________________ | | | ______________________|_________________________________ | | |_________________________________| | | | _________________________________ | | |______________________|_________________________________ |_Gwynwenwen of Dalriada__| | _________________________________ | ______________________|_________________________________ | _________________________________| | | | _________________________________ | | |______________________|_________________________________ |_____________________| | _________________________________ | ______________________|_________________________________ |_________________________________| | _________________________________ |______________________|_________________________________
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L-request@rootsweb.com on 26 Nov 1998
Subject: Llywelyn AT:
. "Said in late genealogy (Bonedd yr Arwyr, 28b) to be Tadreg Ddu,
daughter of Cynan Garwyn of the Powys dynasty. If true, it would make
her a sister of Selyf (Selim, apparently an Old Welsh form of the
Biblical name Solomon), who was killed in the Battle of Chester
(probably fought in 616, but recorded in AU 613: "Bellum Caire Legion ubi
sancti occisi sunt & cecidit Solon m. Conaen, rex Britanorum."), and
would also make Selim the maternal uncle of Cadwallon (d. 634), which
is chronologically possible. However, it is difficult to trust this late
genealogy, in a manuscript containing much clearly mythical material,
and the information should be regarded as unproven."