_Hugh IV de LUSIGNAN ____________ _Hugh V de LUSIGNAN Seigneur de Lusignan_|_Adelarde de Thouars_____________ _Hugh VI de LUSIGNAN Seigneur de Lusignan_| | | _Bernard I C of la Marche________ | |_Almodis of la Marche____________________|_Amelia de Montignac_____________ _Hugh VII de LUSIGNAN Seigneur de Lusignan__| | | _Geoffrey II Vicompte de Thouars_ | | _Aimery IV Vicompte of Thouars___________|_Ainor __________________________ | |_Ildegarde of Thouars_____________________| | | _________________________________ | |_Aurengarde de Mauleon___________________|_________________________________ _Hugh VIII de LUSIGNAN Seigneur de Lusignan_| | | _________________________________ | | _________________________________________|_________________________________ | | __________________________________________| | | | | _________________________________ | | | |_________________________________________|_________________________________ | |_Sarazine __________________________________| | | _________________________________ | | _________________________________________|_________________________________ | |__________________________________________| | | _________________________________ | |_________________________________________|_________________________________ | |--Hugh de LUSIGNAN | | _________________________________ | _________________________________________|_________________________________ | __________________________________________| | | | _________________________________ | | |_________________________________________|_________________________________ | _Geoffrey de Rancon Seigneur de Taillebourg_| | | | _________________________________ | | | _________________________________________|_________________________________ | | |__________________________________________| | | | _________________________________ | | |_________________________________________|_________________________________ |_Burgone de Taillebourg_____________________| | _________________________________ | _________________________________________|_________________________________ | __________________________________________| | | | _________________________________ | | |_________________________________________|_________________________________ |____________________________________________| | _________________________________ | _________________________________________|_________________________________ |__________________________________________| | _________________________________ |_________________________________________|_________________________________
Cockayne's "Complete Peerage" (EU, p.160) is where this Hugh would be
mentioned, but he is not, Cokayne being ignorant as to his existence and
having HUGH VIII as the father of HUGH IX.
"William A. Reitwiesner"
soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup on 13 Jun 1996 (in part):
Subject: Re: De LUSIGNAN/d'EU
From Europaische Stammtafeln, iii, 816:
8. Hugh VIII de LUSIGNAN (Circa 1118 - 1172)
& Bourgogne de Rancon (Circa 1120 - After 11 Apr 1169)
9. Hugh de LUSIGNAN ( - 1169)
& Orengarde
10. Hugh IX de LUSIGNAN ( - 1219)
& Agatha de PREUILLY
11. Hugh X de LUSIGNAN
& Isabelle d'ANGOULEME
"Todd A. Farmerie"
soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup on14 Jun 1996 (in part):
Subject: Re: De LUSIGNAN/d'EU
>Is Hugh VIII the grandfather of Hugh X who married (in 1220) Isabella
>of Angouleme?
No. Painter discovered many years ago that there had been a Hugh left
out of the nomenclature, hence:
8. Hugh VIII m. Bourgogne de Rancon
9. Hugh (VIII1/2) (He was at least effective ruler when Hugh VIII was
on
crusade, and he died after Hugh VIII was last recorded alive on Crusade,
and the first record we have of VIII's having died, so it is not known
if a.Hugh VIII1/2 accually survived his father to become Count, if only
for a few weeks, or b.whether he knew it if he did.
10. Hugh IX m. Matilda of Angouleme and La Marche
11. Hugh X m. Isabelle of Angouleme
Painter argues that Ralph, called brother of Hugh IX, was son of the
missing Hugh, and not of Hugh VIII, while Guy and Geoffrey, called
sometimes uncles, sometimes brothers of Hugh IX were sons of Hugh
VIII, and brothers of Hugh VIII1/2. Based on some chronological factors
regarding the marriages of Ralph and Hugh IX, he concludes that Hugh X
was son of an earlier marriage of Hugh IX, prior to his marriage to
Matilda. I have not seen anyone else address these theses, so I never
know if a line like that in ES, above, for Ralph or one showing Matilda
as
mother of Hugh X is indicative of rejecting Painter, or ignorance of his
work. (I personally think that the circumstances surrounding the
marriages of Isabelle of Angouleme are so well documented, that a
dispensation before her second marriage (to the son of her first cousin
Matilda) would have been mentioned by contemporaries.)
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