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Family Group 1

The Descendants of Capt Thomas (I) Osborne of Henrico Co., VA, b Abt 1580 in England

 

Caution, Warning, Disclaimer:  The ancestral lines shown below are the ancestors that each project member, highlighted in yellow, BELIEVES to be their ancestors.  Standards of proof or evidence used by each member may vary, and documentation for each ancestor may vary.  These listings alone should not be taken as proof of ancestry; they are shown here to facilitate the finding of a common ancestor by project members or by others who may wish to test to see if their ancestral lines connect to one of the members.  For more information, please contact the individual members at the email addresses listed below.

 

 

Of the 12 people in this Family Group 1, Maynard has a conventionally documented connection to Capt Thomas Osborne, b 1580, who came to Henrico Co., VA, in 1619 on the ship Bona Nova.  See the web site <http://www.virginians.com/redirect.htm?topics&o> for more on Capt Thomas Osborne and his family. 

 

Thanks to research by Tony and Maynard, we have a good idea of how everyone in this family group except Van connects to this line and are trying to find more explicit documentation.  Below are the documented descendants from Capt. Thomas Osborne to Maynard and the believed descendants to everyone else except Van.  Van’s ancestral line is shown separately because there is much less known about it.  See the discussion of his line preceding his listing.

 

Jeffrey P Osborne and Felipe Osborne Shea who were previously shown in this FG1 have been moved to a new FG20 because of the results of Felipe’s 25 marker test.  See also the FG20 page.

 

All but Peter C, Ronald E, and Harold T share the common ancestor Thomas (V) Osborne.  Peter, Ronald, and Harold  share the common ancestor Thomas (III) with the rest of the family group.  Note that Frank is a first cousin of George’s father, and there are only 5 mutation opportunities between Frank and George, so the 12 marker match would be expected, and it is also likely that they would match on a 25 marker test, although neither is certain because mutations can occur at any generation.

 

Clifton and Ronald E are perfect 37-marker matches to what we believe is the ancestral haplotype, i.e. the haplotype of Thomas (III) and Thomas (V) Osborne.  George and Joseph M also match over 25-markers.

 

Descendants of Thomas (I) (Capt) Osborne

(Underlined names in bold are links to their listing on the Osborne Origins web site.)

 

(Lines in green are those with the most likely ancestral haplotype on 12 or 25 markers; lines with other colors have one mutation different from the ancestral haplotype somewhere in that part of the line with a different color.  See the Alleles Table)

 

 1   Thomas (I) (Capt) Osborne b: Abt. 1580 England 

. 2   Thomas (II) Osborne b: Abt. 1606 Cranfield, England  d: Bef. 1685 Coxendale, Henrico Co., VA

.......  +Martha Jones  m: Abt. 1640 VA

..... 3   Thomas (III) Osborne b: Abt. 1641  d: 1692 Henrico Co., VA

...........  +Unknown Bailey b: Abt. 1646 m: Abt. 1664 d: Abt. 1687

........ 4   Thomas (IV) Osborne b: Abt. 1665 Henrico Co., VA  d: 1733 Henrico Co., VA

..............  +Martha Jones b: Abt. 1662 m: Bef. Feb 19, 1688/89 Henrico Co., VA d: Bef. 1730 Henrico Co., VA (now Chesterfield Co., VA)

……….5  Thomas (V) Osborne b: Abt. 1690 Henrico Co., VA  d: 1755 Lunenburg Co., VA

..................  +Ann Worsham b: Abt. 1696 Henrico Co., VA m: Abt. 1714 VA d: Bef. 1742

................ 6   Reps Osborne b: 1723 Henrico Co., VA  d: 1808 Charlotte Co., VA

................  *2nd Wife of Reps Osborne:  

......................  +Frances Hancock b: Abt. 1730 Chesterfield Co., VA m: Abt. 1748 d: Bef. 1795 Charlotte Co., VA

................... 7   Samuel Osborne b: Abt. 1749  d: 1815 Charlotte Co., VA

.........................  +Unknown Unknown  m: Abt. 1770

...................  *2nd Wife of Samuel Osborne:  

.........................  +Elizabeth Goode b: 1767 m: Abt. 1783 d: Aft. 1815

....................... 8   Skearm Osborne b: 1797 Halifax Co., VA  d: Dec 17, 1888 Halifax Co., VA

.............................  +Agnes Woodson Morton b: 1799 Charlotte Co., VA m: Dec 1, 1819 Charlotte Co., VA d: Aft. 1870 Halifax Co., VA

.......................... 9   James Allen Osborne b: 1823 Halifax Co., VA  d: Apr 1876 Pittsylvania Co., VA

................................  +Elizabeth Williamson b: 1827 Halifax Co., VA m: Jun 3, 1848 d: Halifax Co., VA

.............................. 10   John Richard Osborne b: Aug 18, 1853 Pittsylvania Co., VA  d: Feb 2, 1934 Halifax Co., VA

....................................  +Lula Johns Hodnett b: Jul 18, 1871 Pittsylvania Co., VA m: Oct 10, 1890 d: May 2, 1948 Halifax Co., VA

.................................. 11   Eddie Osborne

........................................  +Mary

..................................... 12   Maynard Osborne

................... 7   Edward  Osborne b: Abt. 1760  d: Abt. 1836

.........................  +Sally Burchett  m: Dec 25, 1794 Charlotte Co., VA d: Bef. 1849

....................... 8   Thomas Osborn b: Abt. 1799 VA  d: Aft. 1870

.............................  +Nancy Frazier b: Abt. 1805 KY m: Nov 18, 1821 Floyd Co., KY

.......................... 9   William T Osborne b: 1840 Floyd Co., KY 

.............................. 10   William "Buck" Osborne b: 1863 Floyd Co., KY  d: 1925 Floyd Co., KY

.................................. 11   Maryland "Crow" Osborne b: Nov 1904 Floyd Co., KY  d: May 15, 1942 Floyd Co., KY

..................................... 12   Ronald Osborne

......................................... 13   Clifton Osborne 

................ 6   Edward Osborne b: Abt. 1725 Henrico Co., VA (now Chesterfield Co., VA)  d: Bef. 1786 Laurens Co., SC

....................7   Britain Osburn  b: Abt  1763.  (SEE NOTE 01 BELOW) 

......................  8   John Osborn  b: Abt. 1802 in Gwinnett Co., GA,  

..........................  +Priscilla Osborn b: 1804 in SC,   m  Nov 18, 1817, Jackson Co., GA. d: 1875 in Pike Co., AR,

........................... 9   Martin Van Buren Osborne b: Apr 29, 1837 in Jackson Co., GA,   d: Oct 13, 1919 in Prescott, Nevada Co, AR

...............................  +Sarah Ann Brooks b: 1846 m: Mar 16, 1862 d: 1884

................................10   Joseph Dolphus Osborne b: Jul 29, 1875 in MO  d: Mar 1943 in El Paso, El Paso, TX,

....................................  +Rose Pearl King b: Feb 14, 1878 in Saltillo, TX,  m: 1896 d: Feb 14, 1966 in El Paso, El Paso, TX,

....................................11   Joseph Dolphus Osborne b: Feb 19, 1904 in Fort Worth, Tarrant, TX,   d: Aug 25, 1986 in Abilene, Taylor, TX,

........................................  +Mildred Lee Denny b: Dec 16, 1911 in Plant City, FL,  m: Nov 23, 1933 in Las Cruces, NM,  d: Mar 7, 1990 in Abilene, Taylor, TX,

........................................12   Robert Carlton Osborne

............................................  +Velna

..........................................13   Joseph Martin Osborne  

................... 7   Thomas Osborne b: Abt. 1750  d: Aft. 1805 SC or TN

....................... 8   David (?) Osborne b: Bet. 1773 - 1774 SC  d: Abt. 1829 KY

.............................  +Unknown b: Bet. 1775 - 1784 m: Abt. 1790 d: Abt. 1802

.......................... 9   Charles Erbey Osborn b: 1816 Caldwell Co, KY  d: Aft. 1870 Johnson Co, IL

................................  +Jane Bean b: 1824 m: Mar 29, 1838 Princeton, Caldwell Co, KY d: Mar 18, 1881 Simpson, Johnson Co., IL

.............................. 10   William P. Osborne b: 1839 Princeton, Caldwell Co, KY  d: Dec 15, 1862 US Hospital Steamer D.A.January, St. Louis, MO

....................................  +Amy S. Edmonson b: Feb 4, 1838 IL m: Oct 21, 1855 Johnson Co., IL d: Aug 5, 1894

.................................. 11   Thomas Green Osborne b: Jul 30, 1858 Johnson Co, IL  d: Apr 9, 1919 Johnson Co, IL

........................................  +Sarah Ellen Vancleve b: Jun 30, 1865 m: Mar 21, 1883 Johnson Co., IL d: Feb 14, 1898

..................................... 12   William Roswell Osborne b: Jul 20, 1886 Simpson, Johnson Co, IL  d: Jan 23, 1975 Paducah, McCracken Co., KY

...........................................  +Lula Jackson b: Nov 24, 1888 Johnson Co, IL m: Feb 7, 1909 Ozark, IL d: Oct 16, 1962 Paducah, McCracken Co.,KY

......................................... 13   Carl Osborne

...............................................  +Mary

............................................ 14   Thomas Osborne

................ 6   Daniel (Sr) Osborne b: Bef. 1730  d: 1826 Laurens Co., SC

......................  +Elizabeth Drew b: Abt. 1753 m: Abt. 1771 d: Bef. Nov 1, 1822 SC

................... 7   Daniel (Jr) Osborne b: Abt. 1774  d: 1819 Franklin Co., GA

.........................  +Jane Unknown b: Abt. 1784 

....................... 8   Thomas (Romas?) Ausburn  

.......................... 9   Hugh B. Ausburn  

.............................. 10   William Robert Ausburn  

.................................. 11   Paul Burton Ausburn b: Apr 19, 1886  d: May 11, 1968

........................................  +Mamie Lee Atkins b: Jul 10, 1893 m: Sep 21, 1910 d: May 1969

..................................... 12   Roma Ausburn 

..................................... 12   Lecil Ausburn 

...........................................  +Carol

......................................... 13   Anthony "Tony" Ausburn 

....................... 8   Amos Osborn b: 1804 SC 

.............................  +Rachel Davis b: 1804 GA m: Feb 3, 1831 Franklin Co., GA

.......................... 9   Albert W. Osborn b: Mar 3, 1843 Milton Co., GA  d: Sep 16, 1916 Homer, GA

................................  +[3] Eliza Jane Poole b: Jul 23, 1837 m: Aft. 1862 Homer, GA d: Mar 8, 1897 Homer, GA

.............................. 10   James Harrison Osborn b: Sep 7, 1873 GA  d: Apr 3, 1954 Melrose, FL

....................................  +Avie P. Gowder b: Aug 12, 1873 GA m: Jan 29, 1891 Banks Co., GA d: Nov 22, 1935 Melrose, FL

.................................. 11   George Arthur Osborn b: Apr 14, 1896 Homer, GA  d: Jul 7, 1982 Hodges, AL

........................................  +Thena Ioda Stephenson b: Aug 31, 1900 Reed Creek, GA m: Sep 2, 1916 Wigginton, AL d: Mar 21, 1984 Hodges, AL

..................................... 12   John Osborne

...........................................  +Winnie

......................................... 13   George Osborne 

.................................. 11   Frank Jasper Osborn b: Jul 19, 1897 Hodges, AL  d: Dec 10, 1981

........................................  +Florence

..................................... 12   Sara Osborn 

..................................... 12   Frank J Osborn 

........................................ 13   Frank David Osborn

.....  *2nd Wife of Thomas Osborne:  

...........  +Martha Griegg b: Abt. 1662 m: Bet. Apr - Dec 1688 d: Bet. Feb 10, 1702/03 - Aug 2, 1703

........ 4   John Osborne b: Abt. Mar 1689/90 Henrico Co., VA  d: Abt. 1744 Henrico Co., VA

..............  +Unknown Unknown b: Abt. 1693 m: Abt. 1711 d: Abt. 1731

............ 5   Francis Osborne b: Abt. 1720  d: 1792 Chesterfield Co., VA

..................  +Mary Hardaway  m: Abt. 1754

................ 6   John Osborne b: Abt. 1765  d: Bet. 1830 - 1832 Dinwiddie Co., VA

......................  +Jane Pleasants Harrison b: Jul 10, 1775 Prince George Co., VA m: May 2, 1793 Prince George Co., VA d: Abt Jul 13, 1836

................... 7   Pleasants Carter Osborne b: Jul 6, 1804 VA  d: Sep 22, 1864

.........................  +Adelina Drummond Stainback b. Nov 23, 1810,  m: May 26, 1831 Petersburg, VA

....................... 8   Nathaniel Montgomery Osborne b: Feb 6, 1842 Petersburg, VA  d: Jul 31, 1911

.............................  +Marion Meade b: Jan 3, 1844 m: Aug 1869 d: Sep 13, 1913

.......................... 9   Nathaniel Montgomery Osborne III b: Apr 9, 1872 Lynchburg Campbell Co., Va  d: Apr 3, 1953 Norfolk, Va

................................  +Amanda McRae Werth b: Jun 3, 1879 Richmond, Va m: Apr 9, 1912 Lynchburg, Va d: Nov 15, 1968

.............................. 10   Matthew Osborne

....................................  +Doris

.................................. 11   Peter C Osborne 

.................................. 11   Margot Osborne 

........  *2nd Wife of John Osborne:  

..............  +Edith Harris b: Abt. 1700 m: Abt. 1726 d: Abt. 1753

............ 5   Thomas  Osborne b: Abt. 1736  d: 1781 Chesterfield Co., VA

..................  +Frances Friend b: Abt. 1742 m: Abt. 1759 d: Bet. Feb 25 - Jun 10, 1793

................ 6   Francis  Osborne b: Abt. 1763 Chesterfield Co., VA  d: 1829 Chesterfield Co., VA

......................  +Anne Turnbull b: 1771 Prince George Co., VA m: Jun 16, 1792 Prince George Co., VA d: 1833 Chesterfield Co., VA

................... 7   William Osborne b: Feb 1, 1796 Chesterfield Co., VA  d: 1863 Harmony, Tallapoosa Co., AL

.........................  +Mary Barnes b: 1803 Edgefield Co., SC  d: 1865 Harmony, Tallapoosa Co., AL

....................... 8   Francis Marion Osborne b: Sep 16, 1826 Jasper Co., GA  d: Dec 15, 1888 Elmore Co., GA

.............................  +Martha Eason b: 1832 Barnwell Dist, SC m: 1850 Macon Co., AL d: 1862 Macon Co., AL

.......................... 9   Dilmus Emory Osborne b: Jun 17, 1851 Macon Co., AL  d: Dec 23, 1924 Montgomery, AL

................................  +Annie Ann Cauthen b: Jan 1, 1854 S. Clair, AL m: Mar 3, 1872 Ware, Elmore, Co., AL d: May 20, 1882 Friendship Comm, Elmore Co., A

.............................. 10   William Cauthen Osborne b: Feb 27, 1882 Friendship Comm, Elmore Co., A  d: Jun 23, 1956 Foley, Baldwin Co., AL

....................................  +Effie Zera Norrell b: Aug 9, 1888 Friendship Comm, Elmore Co., A m: Jan 12, 1907 Dadeville, Tallapoosa, AL d: May 15, 1969 Foley, Baldwin Co., AL

.................................. 11   Arnold Dilmus Osborne

........................................  +Edith Estelle

..................................... 12   Ronald Edward Osborne

...........................................  +Judy

............ 5   Francis Edward Osborne b: Abt. 1720 in VA  d: Bef. Oct 1792 in Chesterfield Co., VA

..................  +Frances Hancock b: 1740 in VA  d: 1793 in VA

................ 6   Benjamin Osborne b: Abt. 1765 in Chesterfield Co., VA  d: May 13, 1824 in Chesterfield Co., VA

......................  +Mary Walthall  

................... 7   William W Osborne b: Abt. 1786 in Chesterfield Co., VA 

.........................  +Elizabeth H Roberts b: Abt. 1793 

....................... 8   William Thomas Osborne b: Abt. Jul 1851 in Chesterfield Co., VA  d: Dec 28, 1924 in Guilford Co., NC

.............................  +Mollie F b: Abt. Dec 1854 

.......................... 9   William Thomas Osborne b: Abt. Mar 1880 in Chesterfield Co., VA  d: Mar 19, 1926 in Greensboro, Guilford Co., NC

................................  +Laura E Henley b: Abt. 1881 in PA  d: Jan 1963 in Greensboro, Guilford Co., NC

.............................. 10   Harold Michaux Osborne

....................................  +Hilda

.................................. 11   Harold T Osborne 

 

 

NOTE 01:  Joseph Martin Osborne only has his line positively documented back to Priscilla Osborn b: 1804 in SC, m: Nov 18, 1817, Jackson Co., GA. d: 1875 in Pike Co., AR. who was married to John Osborn b: Abt. 1802 in Gwinnett Co., GA.  Priscilla is shown on Osborne Origins as the daughter of William Osborn.  The manuscript we have from McLaurin shows that Brittian, son of Edward Osborne, was in Gwinnett Co., GA in 1810, but unknown thereafter.  Brittian had a brother William which may be the father of Priscilla, making John and Priscilla first cousins, which would agree with family lore in Josephs family.  Since it is therefore quite likely that Josephs connection to this Osborne line is through Brittain, I have shown that connection even though IT IS NOT PROVEN.   

 

 

The POSSIBLE ancestral line of Van Clayton Osborne is shown below.  Van only knows his ancestors back 3 generations to his great-grandfather.  However, his great-grandfather’s name, Repts Barnes Osborne is a very strong clue to how his known line may connect to the Capt Thomas line above.  The name Reps is a very unusual name, but appears many times in particular lines of the Capt Thomas descendants, such as generation 6 in Maynard’s ancestral line above.  The Reps Osborne in Maynard’s line had a known son, Reps Jr. Osborne, b Abt 1757, m Rebecca Goode.  Reps Jr.’s next older sister, Ann Osborne, married Francis Barnes, and they had a known son named Reps Barnes.  So it is likely that the name Reps Barnes carried down from Reps Jr to Van’s grandfather.  However, for this to be true, given the known birthdates, there would have to be several missing generations.  The ancestral line below makes some estimate of the missing generations and is a plausible connection from Van to Capt Thomas, but is shown separately because so much is missing. 

 

 

POSSIBLE Ancestors of Van Clayton and Clayton Ray Osborne

 

 1   Thomas (Capt) Osborne b: Abt. 1580 in England 

..... 2   Thomas Osborne b: Abt. 1606 in Cranfield, England  d: Bef. 1685 in Coxendale, Henrico Co., VA

...........  +Martha Jones  m: Abt. 1640 in VA

............ 3   Thomas Osborne b: Abt. 1641  d: 1692 in Henrico Co., VA

..................  +Unknown Bailey b: Abt. 1646 m: Abt. 1664 d: Abt. 1687

................... 4   Thomas Osborne b: Abt. 1665 in Henrico Co., VA  d: 1733 in Henrico Co., VA

.........................  +Martha Jones b: Abt. 1662 m: Bef. Feb 19, 1688 in Henrico Co., VA d: Bef. 1730 in Henrico Co., VA (now Chesterfield Co., VA)

.......................... 5   Thomas Osborne b: Abt. 1690 in Henrico Co., VA  d: 1755 in Lunenburg Co., VA

................................  +Ann Worsham b: Abt. 1696 in Henrico Co., VA m: Abt. 1714 in VA d: Bef. 1742

.................................. 6   Reps Osborne b: 1723 in Henrico Co., VA  d: 1808 in Charlotte, VA

........................................  +Frances Hancock b: Abt. 1730 in Chesterfield Co., VA m: Abt. 1748 d: Bef. 1795 in Charlotte, VA

......................................... 7   Reps (Jr) Osborne b: Abt. 1757  d: Feb 16, 1831 in Charlotte, VA

...............................................  +Rebecca Goode b: Abt. 1788 m: Jan 14, 1806 in Charlotte Co., VA d: Bef. 1820 in Charlotte, VA

................................................ 8   Unknown Osborne b: Abt. 1808 

......................................................  +Unknown Unknown  m: Abt. 1830

....................................................... 9   Unknown Osborne b: Abt. 1832 

.............................................................  +Unknown Unknown  m: Abt. 1852

.............................................................. 10   Unknown Osborne b: Abt. 1854 

...................................................................... 11   Repts Barnes Osborne b: Abt. 1876 

............................................................................  +Jane Medlin  m: Abt. 1896

............................................................................. 12   Billie Lou Osborne b: Abt. 1897 

...................................................................................  +Christina Martin  m: Abt. 1917

.................................................................................... 13   Carmel Clinton Osborne b: Jun 4, 1925 in Floyd Co., KY  d: Oct 30, 1997 in Martin, Floyd Co., KY

..........................................................................................  +Olivia

........................................................................................... 14   Van Clayton Osborne  

................................................................................................ 15   Clayton Ray Osborne

Technical details

 

Note:  The following discussion is quite old and out of date, but I leave it in for reference purposes.  Much of this methodology has been superceded by the FTDNATip probabilities discussed elsewhere.

To compare the 25 marker genetic distance inferences of these lines to the believed ancestral lines from conventional genealogy, I used the mutation rates determined by John Chandler, from the DNA Mailing list, as follows.  John Chandler has calculated based on a survey of results of available family groups, that the mutation rate for "fast" markers (the ones in red) is .0041+-.0008; and that the rate for "slow" markers (the ones in black) is .0013+-.0003.  Maynard and Thomas differ 1 place in two of the red "fast" markers, 464c and d, on the 25 marker test.

 

Next, I used a MRCA calculator (Most Recent Common Ancestor) by Ann Turner <dnacousins@aol.com>, past administrator of the DNA list, to calculate the MRCA for Maynard and Thomas using the .0041 fast marker mutation rate.  The results are a median of 13.6 generations (that's at the 50% confidence level) with 95% confidence levels between 3.1 and 36.8 generations.  Below are the results from the MRCA calculator for a mutation rate of .0041:

Number of Generations to Most Recent Common Ancestor

 

 

Mutation rate

 

Number of markers tested

 

Number  of mismatches

 

Median number of generations

Generations between 95% confidence levels

.0041

25

0

3.4

0.1 to 18.0

.0041

25

1

8.4

1.2 to 27.7

.0041

25

2

13.6

3.1 to 36.8

The MRCA calculation by University of Arizona at <http://nitro.biosci.arizona.edu/ftdna/23-2-0.html - High> gives 14 generations for the median value.

John Chandler also has a rule that you take the sum of the squares of the differences at each marker, and multiply by 125 years for fast markers.  For Thomas and Maynard, that is 1 squared plus 1 squared = 2 times 125 = 250 years back to the common ancestor.

The end result is that the common ancestor median probability of number of generations is 13.6 and should be about 250 years ago (with a large uncertainty). 

Finally, I looked at how we are related assuming our hypothesis is correct.  Thomas is down 10 generations from the MRCA Thomas (V) Osborne and Maynard  is down 8, so our common ancestor would be 10 generations back, and since he was born about 1690, that's about 244 years before Thomas and Maynard’s birth dates.  These results are well within the above expectations of the DNA testing.

The same procedures for Lecil vs. Maynard give a median of 8.4 generations from Ann Turner’s calculator, and 9 from the U of Arizona.  Lecil and Maynard are more closely related so the closer genetic distance is consistent with that.

George’s result of a genetic distance of 1 from each of the other three people is somewhat unexpected, but is consistent with our presumed relations.  One might have expected George to match Lecil better, since their presumed common ancestor is only 6 and 5 generations back respectively, but dna testing is just not accurate enough to make that distinction.  It is interesting that Thomas is the only one who differs on Allele 449; the other three differ only on Allele’s 464a and b.  Everyone differs only on the “fast” markers.

 

Migration

Some of the migration paths for this family can be seen in the birthplaces for the lines above.  Maynard and Peter C’s lines stayed in VA.  Harold’s line also stayed close to VA and only migrated into NC in the latest generations.  Some descendants of Thomas (V) migrated to SC in the vicinity of Laurens Co.  Thomas’ line migrated from Lauren’s, SC into western KY in the Caldwell Co., area and then into southern IL.  Lecil’s line migrated into GA.  George’s line migrated into GA and then into AL.  Ronald’s line migrated to AL.  There is another known line that migrated into TN, LA, and finally into TX in the area of Austin.  A Claiborne Osborne near Austin, TX is a descendant of that line.  So far, the lines seems to have migrated south and west from VA and is probably not related to the large contingent of New England Osborne’s who seem to have stayed in New England or migrated west along a northern route through PA and IL. 

 

Contacts

 

To exchange information or inquire about any of the lines shown above, please email the following people:

Maynard at < nomo1935@pure.net > for Maynard Osborne’s line;

Tony at < tausburn@cebridge.net > for Lecil Ausburn’s line;

George at < g_osborne@bellsouth.net > or Deborrah at < dbson@hiwaay.net > for George Osborne’s line;

Ann at < luskad@msn.com > for Frank Osborn’s line;

Tom at < tlosborne@aol.com > for Thomas Osborne’s line.

Clifton at < cosborne2@hot.rr.com > for Clifton’s line.

Margot at < Mxbtby/@aol.com > for Margot and Peter C’s line.

Judy at < judyosborne@charter.net > for Ronald’s line.

Van and Clayton Ray at < letcher@computers-plus.net > for Van and Clayton’s line.

Harold at < htedo@yahoo.com > for Harold’s line.

Frank David at < fosborn@hotmail.com > for his line.

Joseph at < joe.osborne@verizon.net > for Joseph Martin’s line.

Ancestral Haplotype

With the 37 marker results of 4 people, we are now able to deduce the most likely 37-marker Ancestral Haplotype (also called the Ancestral Result) of this family group.  Simply put, that means we can deduce the most likely allele values for our common ancestors, Thomas (III) Osborne and Thomas (V) Osborne.  It turns out that Clifton and Ronald E actually have the ancestral haplotype and match perfectly on all 37 markers, which means that there have been no mutations in their ancestral lines.  George has the Ancestral Haplotype over 25-markers, but has not had the 37-marker test.  The importance of knowing the Ancestral Haplotype is that we can compare the results for any other members to the Ancestral Haplotype rather than to each other and identify the mutation(s) that took place in each of those lines.  Those particular mutations can become a signature of a particular line. 

 

FTDNA has a discussion of the significance of the Ancestral Haplotype and also a method for it’s derivation in it’s Facts and Gene’s newsletter at the web site: 

http://www.familytreedna.com/facts_genes.asp?act=show&nk=2.9 in the section “Interpreting Results: Determine the Ancestral Result”.  However, their method requires that two people match identically on a 25- or 37-marker test, which is difficult to achieve.

 

Since mutations are rare, and happen independently on each allele, it is unlikely that two people of diverse ancestry will have the same mutation on the same allele.  Therefore it is possible to make an estimate of the most likely Ancestral Haplotype by taking the predominant value for each allele for each of the people tested.  This is valid provided that the group is diverse and is not weighted by several people of very close ancestry, which is the case in this group.  The table below shows how we can apply this “majority vote” method to this group.

 

 

DYS#

Name

3
9
3

3
9
0

1
9

3
9
1

3
8
5
a

3
8
5
b

4
2
6

3
8
8

4
3
9

3
8
9
|
1

3
9
2

3
8
9
|
2

4
5
8

4
5
9
a

4
5
9
b

4
5
5

4
5
4

4
4
7

4
3
7

4
4
8

4
4
9

4
6
4
a

4
6
4
b

4
6
4
c

4
6
4
d

4
6
0

G
A
T
A
H
4

Y
C
A
I
I
a

Y
C
A
I
I
b

4
5
6

6
0
7

5
7
6

5
7
0

C
D
Y
a

C
D
Y
b

4
4
2

4
3
8

Thomas Osborne

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

19

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

28

15

16

17

17

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lecil Ausburn

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

19

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15

16

16

17

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

George Osborne

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

19

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15

16

17

17

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maynard Osborne

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

19

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15

16

17

18

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frank Osborn

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Clifton Osborne

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

19

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15

16

17

17

11

11

19

23

16

16

19

19

36

37

12

12

Peter C Osborne

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

19

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15

16

17

17

11

11

19

23

16

16

19

19

35

37

12

12

Van C Osborne

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

19

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

30

15

16

17

17

11

11

19

23

16

16

19

19

36

36

12

12

Ronald E Osborne

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

19

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15

16

17

17

11

11

19

23

16

16

19

19

36

37

12

12

Harold T Osborne

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Likely Ancestral Haplo**

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

11

14

13

30

19

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15

16

17

17

11

11

19

23

16

16

19

19

36

37

12

12

**Note: Highlighted Alleles are mutations relative to the most likely Ancestral Haplotype, which is the predominant value for each Allele.

 

By taking the predominant value of each allele, we get the sequence identified as the Likely Ancestral Haplotype, and note that it is the same as that of Clifton and Ronald E, and of George on 25 markers.  We can also see the mutations that took place in each of the other results, as highlighted in the table.  In each case, the mutations are only one unit in 4 different “fast” markers.  So we can conclude that each of the lines for Thomas, Lecil, Maynard, Peter C, and Van, have had but a single mutation somewhere in their lines AFTER Thomas (V) Osborne.

 

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