For your convenience and listening pleasure, a soundbar is supplied in order for you to control the background music.
AND SAVE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
the NEW IRELAND LIST WEB SITE?
If not, then click here!
Dia dhuit augus failte!
My name is Deborah, Gobnait in the Gaeilge. I am the listowner and facilitator for the IRELAND News List.
The IRELAND mailing list is aimed at helping people with Irish ancestors. We are researching our family histories, curious to learn more about all things of Ireland, and eager to share a love for our heritage.
Our list includes approximately 800 ancestor searchers, lovers of Ireland from all over the world. The IRELAND list is different from most other genealogy lists, more than 'who, where and when'. We enjoy diverse discussions which allow us to share information on genealogy, but also about all aspects of Irish history, folklore, poetry,literature and all things of Ireland. This in turn gives us a better understanding for the circumstances of our ancestors lives and our connection to Ireland.
You are currently subscribed in "mail mode", which means that you will receive every posting made to IRELAND as a separate e-mail. The directions on how to change to digest mode are given below.
(Sorry but there have to be a few!!)
1. NO FLAMING ALLOWED
Rude or insulting behaviour will NOT, repeat NOT, be tolerated. Respect and kindness are a must.
This list is NOT a forum for any kind of political debate.Politics are discussed ONLY as they relate to Irish history and the circumstances of our ancestors lives. These discussions will be gracious and kind in content. NO FLAMING WILL BE TOLERATED. For the comfort and consideration of our more gentle-hearted listers please respect this very important list request.
Complaints or suggestions regarding the list should be sent DIRECTLY to:
for consideration. If you object to a thread or topic on the list PLEASE do not notify the entire list. Just block the thread.
2. HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.
Send a message to
that contains (in the subject line and body of the message) the command
and no additional text. (if you are ill or have a family emergency which does not allow you the energy to manage this list request please contact me and I will take care of unsubscribing you from the list)
3. HOW TO SUBSCRIBE.
Whatever you just did worked, or you'd not be getting this message. But for future reference (for instance, if your subscription is cancelled for whatever reason and you want to resubscribe), just send the command "SUBSCRIBE" to:
4. HOW TO CHANGE TO DIGEST MODE
Digest Mode is where several postings are combined and sent to you together as a single large message.
There are two steps. First, send the command "UNSUBSCRIBE" to:
to discontinue mail mode. Second, send the command "SUBSCRIBE" to:
to start receiving digests.
5. HOW TO CHANGE TO NOMAIL MODE,
There is no formal NOMAIL mode. All you have to do is follow the directions above and unsubscribe when you want the messages to stop, and then when you want them to start again, simply subscribe again.
6. POSTING TO THE ENTIRE LIST
If you'd like to post a message so everyone on the mailing list receives it, just send it to
It will then be sent on to everyone in both mail and digest mode. You don't need to send it explicitly to both.
7. PLEASE KEEP A COPY OF THIS NOTICE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
This notice is in your WELCOME LETTER and up-dated occasionally. It is posted here for your convenience. An effort will be made to up-date this posting whenever the WELCOME LETTER is up-dated. However, be forewarned that the information here may change at any time.
8. Don't be shy, post your interests as soon as you feel comfortable, post them often.
New people are the life-blood of any news list. Ask for help. We all started somewhere, knowing little about genealogy research or our ancestors or about news lists and how they work. Ask questions, this is what the list is for, sharing information.
9. HAVE FUN!
If you have questions or a problem please don't hesitate to contact me:
Go gcuire Dia an t-a/dh ort!
Beannachtai augus Siochain,
P.S. Start by searching:
Note: The "List Mom" is the List Administrator for the Rootsweb Ireland Mail List. She is the one who is ultimately responsible for this site and the Mail List.
We do have many new subscribers, so I will explain.
The Ireland List serves 800 + ancestor searchers, genealogists and historians with very diverse interests. It is a very unique list. While there is plenty of genealogy, and plenty of folks to help with genealogy questions if you care to ask one.
If you have a complaint, you can complain OFF LIST to me through private email.
If your complaint is about a thread (or a person harassing you) you can block the offending thread (or person) very easily by using the block function in your email program. I will be very happy to help you with blocking the thread or person if it is something you are unaccustomed to.
As far as threads go, the Ireland List has a long tradition of this type of thread about once a year. How the list is conducted is long standing and not up for debate. As I said before, the Ireland List is unique, but not everyone's cup of tea. To unsubscribe from the Ireland List please send an email to:
for mail mode or:
for digest mode.
Providing these instructions is not an invitation to leave, indeed, I hope you decide to stay, but this is a way to leave if you find the list is not what you were expecting.
Thanks for your cooperation in honoring the many diverse interests on the Ireland List.
In the beginning, when the initial ideas for the site were conceived, it was thought as being a site relatively small in size. The key sections outlined in the initial phases of planning were a small section about the site and Mail List, a Roll Call Page, Stories and Poems about Ireland, Irish History, Irish information, and a few other things like Irish Traditions, Holidays, and Links to sites relating to Ireland, the Irish and Genealogy.
As time went on, the site grew. It was noticed the Members of the Ireland Mail List posted many things to the Mail List which the List Mom felt should go on the site. The site grew at alarming rates. It went from less than 20 pages in the first week of it's existance to 40 pages in the first month to about 80 pages by the time the second month expired. Today the site is not even 3 months old and there are about 95 pages on the site and it takes up an estimated 30 Megs, more or less.
The main purpose of this Site is to assist the "Members" of The Rootsweb Ireland Mail List with their genealogical research by providing a place with helpful links, stories, poems and information concerning a variety of topics relating to Irish History, Culture and Genealogy.
When you are bookmarking this site, it is recommended to also bookmark the pages you feel you will use the most (The Roll Call or one of the Links Pages are good examples). Most browsers allow you to make folders in your Bookmarks or Favorites. You can create a folder called "Irelandsite" (or something) and save all the pages on this site which you wish to save in there.
Let it be understood that more than just the Members of the Rootsweb Mail List are Welcome here, but at the same time it is felt that if you're interested in Irish Genealogy then our desire is to have you as a member. It is also advisable to become a member of the list, if you wish to be added to the Roll Call Pages.
As a general rule, this site will "not" be for the purpose of posting the individual Family Histories for each of the Members of the Rootsweb Ireland Mail List.
Several Factors are involved in the answer for this question.
First, two guidelines:
Let's say (for the sake of argument) that one Family History takes an hour and a half to get the information on line and another hour for revisions per year. This equals an average of 2.5 hours per Family History.
Now, there are 800+ Ireland List Members and on the average they all have two Family Histories. In actuality, some List Members may have 1 Family History, while others have 3, 5 or even a dozen they could submit for the site. So figuring 800 people at two each is not out of line either. :)
This means that it would take (800 times 1.5) 1200 hours to place all 800 Family Histories online initially. Then it would take another 800 hours during the course of the year to up-date and maintain them. This gives us a grand total of 2000 hours that someone will have to spend during the first year to put 800 Family Histories online and maintain them.
To convert 2000 hours into terms easily understood, it is equal to about 83 days of working 24 hours a day straight, or about 365 days straight for only spending an approximate 5 and a half hours a day. (FYI, there are only 8760 available hours in a normal year).
As you can see, maintaining a set of Family Histories online could create quite a bit of work. So we leave stuff like that for people to place on their own sites. Instead of posting Family Histories and Genealogy Charts for the Members, this site will offer a Roll Call Page.
One Exception to the Family History Rule is the Section for the List Mom/WEB Mistress.
Since so much of her time is devoted to the Site and the List, then it should be considered as "Acceptable" that she places her own family data on her site. This will give the other Member's of the List a place to go for reading about her Genealogical Interests.
Good Question, and a great way to get out of the drudgery of the above issue. :) A Menu to the site is provided on the Main Page of this site. The way that Menu is done takes up too much time to be effective for all the pages to this site, or even all the Main Pages to the Sections of this site.
A Menu for each main page of a section is in the works. On the Irish Flags and Colors Page, an experimental menu using an image map is used. If this type of menu is easily understood and utilized by the List Members, then an image map for the entire Ireland Site may be implemented and placed on the main page of each section of this site.
Please feel free to explore the site on your own. :) You may find things of interest on the Site which aren't mentioned here.
Some of the areas of this site, which a newby may find of value, are:
This is a great place to start for the Newby, and the Not-So-Newby :D. This page answers many common questions concerning the Mail List which everyone should know. :)
This page are messages taken from the Mail List and written by our Ireland List Members to provide help to other Members. It is worth checking out. :)
These are a few hints on posting to the Mail List.
The Announcement Page is for Announcements concerning the Mail List and WEB Site. This is the List Mom's Page, where she provides information for the List Member.
This page is pretty much as it says, it is for Disclaimers and Dedications concerning this site. It also is for copyright notices and other important items. The List Mom may or may not sanction everything on this page.
This is the first page to the Roll Call Section of the Site. It lists Surnames and Individual Names of the List Members. There are many pages to this site and due to Member submittals, more pages are in the works.
This page explains the procedures for Roll Call and some helpful information.
This page has information about the Irish Census and the US Census. Perhaps more Censuses will be added later.
This page is for the purpose of sharing information and helpful hints about Genealogy Research on the Internet. It also contains other things, such as poems. to make it less boring. :D It's definately worth looking over occassionally. :)
On this page you will find some help for researching Irish Genealogy.
Don't know what Griffith's Valuation is? Then try this page to find out.
The Lyrics are provided mostly for entertainment, so that a person can listen to and sing along with the songs. However it has a secondary purpose. Through the Lyrics to songs of a certain period, we can often see the views of the people and the events of an era.
This page has numerous sites concerning a variety of topics related to Genealogy and Ireland. There is no telling when this page will get up-dated... usually it depends upon whether there are more pressing things going on at the time. The Majority of the links you find here are links posted on the mail list. There are other Links pages as well on this site, but this is the Main one.
This page is devoted to the posting of Sites which are run, or are related to the names, of the Ireland List Members.
This is the third Links Page. It entails nothing but sites concerning Ship lists.
Yep, you guessed it, another Links Page. This one is the List Mom's suggestions.
This is a page of some Irish Phrases and their meanings.
This is an informational type page about common Irish Surnames. It isn't intended to provide great detail on every Irish Surname there ever was, nor does it provide a lot of links to each surname.
This is something you can see on many other sites over the net, however it is pretty cool to have. :)
Some information concerning the Traditions for some Irish Holidays.
Genealogy, at times, seems to have a language of it's own. A major reason for this is because in Genealogy, terms from practically every field of endeavour through out many ages are commonly found and used.
For Generic Genealogy Terms used, please click on this Link:
Maps, Deeds and other Legal Documents are also commonly used by Genealogists. At some point knowing the towns or cities one's ancestors lived in is not enough for practically every genealogist and family historian. the desire to know more about precisely where their ancestors lived seems attractive to them. Maps and Deeds often provide us with a visual aid for "Seeing" our ancestor's homes.
If the Maps and Deed you run across throw you for a loop, then this page might help you:
Genealogists use all kinds of forms and methods of record keeping. If you wish to know what kinds of forms are used, then this page might help you:
If you get lost with the symbols and abbreviations you see in some messages, check out this page of emoticons, abbreviations and acronyms.
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