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Group Douglas-Fir

R1b1b2a1b5  (Shorthand R-L21)



Wikipedia:  The common name honours David Douglas, the Scottish botanist who first introduced the tree into
cultivation in 1826. Douglas is known for introducing many North American native conifers to Europe. The hyphen in the common name indicates that Douglas-firs are not true firs; i.e. they are not members of the genus Abies

Haplogroup Definition


Haplogroup R1b1b2 is the most common Haplogroup in European populations. It is believed to have expanded throughout Europe as humans re-colonized after the last glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years ago. This lineage is also the Haplogroup containing the Atlantic Modal Haplotype.


SNP R-M269 aka R1b1b2

    └── SNP R-P312 aka R1b1b2a1b

        └── SNP R-L21 aka R1b1b2a1b5


This is our place on the Haplogroup tree per FTDNA (as of March 2009)


The R-P312 or R-S116 (rs34276300) SNP is downstream of R-M269, but not R-U106.  It appears to divide R1b1b2 in half. Although unpublished it was included in chip-based commercial DNA tests towards the end of 2007 and analysis of the first available results in early 2008 by amateur geneticists indicated it has a significant place in the Y-DNA tree.


Early results as of November 2008 suggest that the R-L21 or R-S145 (rs11799226) SNP is common in the British Isles, and is yet to be observed so far in Iberian ancestry. Its subclade R-M222 is particularly associated with the Irish and Scots.(Our Group will not be positive for R-M222)


The International Society of Genetic Genealogy maintains a separate Haplogroup tree for Haplogroup R. For the current ISOGG Haplogroup R tree and any updates go to:



Group Leader: Scott Johnston


Group Members

Kit Numbers


Richard Riley Johnson


Lee E. Johnson


Michael D. Johnson


Scott Warren Johnston


Ralph Reverdy Johnson


Wayne Eugene Johnson


Harry Disbrow Johnson


John W. Johnson


James W. Johnson


Robert Charles Johnson


Charles Nickell Johnston


Jared Lee Ross


Lester Lee Johnson


Fred Robert Johnson


Brian Christopher Johnson


Dr. Lorin Keith Johnson


Roy Leonard Johnson


Dr. Eric Holm Johnson


Gordon Johnson


James C. Shively


Joseph Robert Johnson


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Group Douglas Fir’s Pedigrees




By Scott Johnston Group Leader


The members of the group Douglas-Fir are all close DNA matches.

Most of these members are descended from a person known as Zopher Johnston 'The Elder'

For the DNA relationship between these individuals please see the Excel file “JOHNSON_DNA.xls”


Stevie Hughes has written extensively on the descendants of Zopher Johnston 'The Elder'

Those interested in learning about them please go to the following web page


On this page there are .pdf files on the various members of this family, located near the bottom of the page.


The DNA of the members of Douglas-Fir belong to the Haplogroup R1b1b2a1b5 per FTDNA.

Robert Charles Johnson (Kit N44042) had his Haplogroup officially confirmed by FTDNA. For all others the Haplogroup has been predicted. This is based on the SNP R-M269. Recent discoveries have broken this Haplogroup further. A new SNP called variously R-P312, R-S116, or rs34276300. FTDNA has recognized this SNP and designates as R1b1b2a1b.  Downstream of R-P312 is a newly discovered SNP named R-L21.  In November of 2008 I tested positive for R-L21.  In March of 2009 FTDNA recognized this SNP as being part of the Haplogroup tree. My Haplogroup has been confirmed as R1b1b2a1b5 as of March 16, 2009.


Due to the similarity of our DNA this would also make all other members of Douglas-Fir R-L21 positive.  To determine what FTDNA has classified you log into your personal page at FTDNA, under Y-DNA select Haplotree.  At the top of the Interactive Haplotree page you will see ‘My Confirmed Haplogroup and the Shorthand. Further down on the page if you select R on the right hand side (shows ‘Your Match) a new page appears this shows where you are on the Haplogroup R tree.


To have your Haplogroup confirmed a SNP test could be ordered thru FTDNA’s

Advanced Orders, the L21 test (found under R-P312) currently costs $29.

(Plus a small fee to transfer your sample to the Houston lab.)


Our group Haplotype is part of the Scots Modal or cluster, which is part of the larger Atlantic Modal Haplotype, also called Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype.

This is listed on the left side of your personal page at FTDNA. Click on the icon for information on what this is.



For other modals please see John McEwan's web page at:



At one time it was thought that this modal had its origins in Ireland but the thinking currently is that its origins are in Scotland or elsewhere in Britain.  For more information on this subject please see these two files:


R1b1 Douglas-Fir Scots Modal Origin and Geographic Patterns of R1b in the British Isles(pdf)


Kevin D. Campbell wrote “Geographic Patterns of R1b in the British Isles”. This paper identifies haplotypes in the Oxford Genetic Atlas Project data and links these to Bryan Sykes’ book, Blood of the Isles. The analysis provides support for Sykes’ conclusions and posits the genetic signatures for the Dal Riada Celts and Picts identified in Sykes’ book.


In Kevin Campbell's analysis the haplotype named OAGP4 by Bryan Sykes corresponds to the Scots modal. In it he writes:


"OGAP4 is particularly intriguing. It is ubiquitous across all areas of Scotland and exceptionally strong in Grampian, Tayside, and Strathclyde. If we discount the Irish influx in Argyll and the Hebrides, it is also among the strongest haplotypes present in these regions. It would not be too much of a stretch to label OGAP4 the quintessential Scottish haplotype and the single closest identifier to whatever is considered the indigenous Scottish population. Sykes and Oppenheimer both write that the Picts were as close as anything to the indigenous population of Scotland."


If anyone has questions on the above information please contact me.








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