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Murray Family from Dundonald, Ayrshire, Scotland

My Murray ancestors have been traced back to 18th century Dundonald in Ayrshire. My 3xgreat grandfather moved and settled in Dalrymple where most of his children were born.

My direct line is shown on bold typeface.

Dundonald Parish is located on the coast of central Ayrshire in the former District known as Kyle. The parish, originally centred on that village, also includes the town of Troon, its suburb Barassie, Fullarton and the former parish of Crosbie.

Dundonald is a beautiful, typically lowland Ayrshire village based on a single street of weaver's cottages infilled with later developments.

The place name Dundonald means "Donald’s fort". We don't know who Donald was, but he may have been one of three kings of that name who ruled in Strathclyde in the 10th century.

The early 1803 Dundonald Parish Church (Church of Scotland) lies at the heart of the village. The churchyard's headstones are documented in "Dundonald Monumental Inscriptions". The village is small, with a few shops on main street, a grocer or two, post office and a primary school. Older children generally go to Marr College in Troon, over the western hill, for their secondary schooling. A bowling green at the foot of the ruined castle was once a communal grazing area. The village is surrounded by low hills, mostly still dedicated to dairy and sheep farming. The 14th century ruins of Dundonald Castle still overwhelm the village. It was once the favourite residence of King Robert II. The large tower, which incorporates the remains of a 13th century gatehouse, and much of the barmkin wall are all that survive.

Within the parish lie the ruins of Auchan, a formerly magnificent mock-military country home erected by Sir William Cochrane in 1644. The last permanent resident was Susannah, Countess of Eglinton who died in 1780. She had been a great beauty and artistic patron in her youth. But according to tradition, she trained rats in her old age which she would summon to dine with her at her otherwise lonely dining table.

First Generation

1. Alexander MURRAY.

He married Mary DEAN, 11 Mar 1783 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7.

They had one known child:

2 i. Alexander MURRAY

Second Generation

2. Alexander MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Mary DEAN. Christen 11 Jul 1792 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7. Died 28 Jan 1837 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Buried 31 Jan 1837 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

At this time, Alexander is the only known child of Alexander Murray and his wife, Mary Dean, although Parish Registers for this time period have not yet been examined.

Alexander and his family were residing at Byrestone Hill at the time of the baptism of their eldest son, Alexander, however were living at Shewalton when the remainder of their children were baptised.

He married Isabella McCULLOCH, 24 Jan 1817 in Craigie, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7. Died After 1854.

It is most likely that Isabella was born at Craigie where they were married, which is about 4 miles from her husbands parish of Dundonald, however the Parish Registers have not been consulted as yet.

Should this family have followed strict Scottish naming patterns her parents are likely to be William and Mary, however there are not IGI entries to support this. There is however a baptism on 12 May 1793 of an Isabella daughter of Gilbert McCulloch. This baptism occurred at Dailly, which is much further south of Dundonald and would require further investigation.

Alexander and Isabella had the following children:

3 i. Mary MURRAY

4 ii. Alexander MURRAY

5 iii. William MURRAY

6 iv. Nanny MURRAY

7 v. Agnes MURRAY

8 vi. John MURRAY

9 vii. Helen Mure MURRAY

10 viii. Gilbert MURRAY

11 ix. Robert MURRAY

Alexander died at Gillside in 1837, however was buried at Dundonald. 5

Burial records up to 1854 in Dundonald have been examined however there is no burial record for Isabella during that time. It is however possible that she moved with her son, Alexander to Dalry, as he was married there in 1848.

A check of more Census records will hopefully clarify these details further. 

Third Generation

3. Mary MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Isabella McCULLOCH. Born 23 May 1818 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Christen 31 May 1818 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63.

Mary may have married Adam HAMILTON on 31 Dec 1839 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland 63. This couple have been identified on the 1881 Census, however Mary gave her birthplace as Kilmarnock not Dundonald. He was a blacksmith, 63 years old and born in Ardrossan. Their children were Agnes Murray aged 21, Elizabeth Murray aged 19 and a grand-daughter, Mary aged 15.

There is also a marriage of a Mary Murray to Andrew OLIVER on 26 Jun 1840 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland. This couple does not appear on the 1881 Census in the Southwest of Scotland.

4. Alexander MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Isabella McCULLOCH. Born 22 Apr 1820 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 30 Apr 1820 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Died 15 Mar 1878 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 2. Occupation Carter 3, Gamekeeper 12.

At the time of Alexander's baptism in 1820, his family was residing at Byrestone Hill. He is the eldest son and second eldest of Alexander and Isabella's nine children and as such was named after his paternal grandfather.

He married Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL, daughter of William CAMPBELL & Janet RITCHIE, 17 Mar 1848 in Dalry, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 12. Born 16 Mar 1828 in Dalry, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 13 Apr 1828 in Dalry, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Died After 1882 13.

At the time of Sarah's baptism, Sarah's father was described as a servant of Pitcan. She is the third eldest of their ten known children. The family surname was spelt CAMBELL. 5

Alexander and Sarah were married the day after Sarah's 20th birthday in Dalry, Ayrshire. At this time, Alexander was described as a Carter in Borestone. Sarah was residing at Pitcon. 3

Alexander and Sarah had the following children:

12 i. Isabella MURRAY

13 ii. William MURRAY

14 iii. Alexander MURRAY

15 iv. John MURRAY

16 v. Janet Ritchie MURRAY

17 vi. Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY

18 vii. Sarah MURRAY

19 viii. Alexander MURRAY

20 ix. Jane Campbell MURRAY

21 x. Mary MURRAY

22 xi. Thomas Campbell MURRAY

23 xii. Agnes MURRAY

24 xiii. James MURRAY

They appear to have moved from Dalry where their first child Isabella was born to Kirkoswald, some time around 1849 as the next three of their children were born there. They eventually settled in Dalrymple some time after 1853.

Unfortunately, the 1851 Census has not been consulted at this time.

Dalrymple, Ayrshire, Scotland, © 1998 Vicki Lee Hails

At the time of the 1861 Census Alexander and his family were residing at Dalrymple, Ayrshire, Scotland. He was described as the head, married, aged 38 years and was a Gamekeeper and his birthplace was given as Dundonald. His wife Sarah, was 33 years of age and born in Dalry as was their eldest daughter, Isabella, aged 13. Their two eldest sons, William, aged 11 and John, aged 8; both scholars were both born at Kirkoswald. Their three youngest children, Janet, aged 6; Martha aged 4 and Sarah aged 2 were all born at Dalrymple. 18

Whilst the baptisms of the children born at Dalrymple (pictured right) have been confirmed. No baptism records can be found for the two sons who were reputedly born at Kirkoswald. A burial record in Kirkoswald has however been identified for a son, Alexander, who was only an infant at the time of his death. 5

Alexander and his wife, Sarah have been noted on the 1871 Census at Old Knockjarder, Dalrymple together with 7 of their children, Janet, Sarah, Alexander, Jane, Mary, Thomas and Agnes. Alexander as previously described in earlier census records, was now aged 48 years and was still described as a Gamekeeper and was born at Dundonald. His wife, Sarah, aged 43 was born at Dalry. 19

Alexander died on 15 March 1878 at Old Knockjarder in the parish of Dalrymple. He was described as a gamekeeper aged 56, although his baptism would indicate that he was 58 years old. Both his parents were deceased, their names were given as Alexander and Mary (whilst his baptism would indicate his mother was Isabella). The informant was his son, John 2.

Sarah has also been identified on the 1881 Census Index residing at Old Martnaham, Coylton, Ayrshire. She was aged 53 years, was born in Dalry, a widow in receipt of an annuity. Also residing with her were 4 of her children, Sarah aged 21, a cook; Thomas, aged 13, a farm servant; Agnes, aged 11, a scholar and James, aged 9, also a scholar, all the children were born in Dalrymple. Sarah's mother, Janet R. Campbell, aged 75, Gardener's widow; born Dalry was also residing with her family at this time. 38

Sarah's unmarried daughters appear to have been in service at this time and identified on the census as follows:

Mary aged 15, servant to Thomas Robertston in Dalrymple. 38

Jane aged 17, servant to Annie McLeish in Ayr. 38

Martha aged 23, cook to Christina Miller in Ayr. 38

Her son John, may be the one described as a joiner with a wife and two children also residing in Ayr. 38

Sarah's date and place of death have not yet been determined. She was not living in Dalrymple at the time of the 1891 Census, however may be recorded on the census for Coylton at the time. 21

5. William MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Isabella McCULLOCH. Born 22 Apr 1822 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 18 Aug 1822 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

William's mother at his baptism is recorded as Isabell McCulloch. The family was residing at Shewalton at the time. He was privately baptised. 5

There are many possible marriages for William on the IGI however the most likely geographically being to Jane DAVIDSON on 7 Nov 1846 Dundonald, Ayr, Scotland (also recorded on the IGI at Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland). 63

If he did marry Jane, a widowed Jane MURRAY has been identified on the 1881 Census at Ballantrae, Ayrshire with her son, William. Also residing with them, were Jane's other children, Agnes, Mary Ann and John and a servant named Maggie McCulloch. 38

6. Nanny MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Isabella McCULLOCH. Born 17 Aug 1824 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 29 Aug 1824 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

Nanny's mother at her baptism is recorded as Bell McCulloch. The family was residing at Shewalton at the time. 5

7. Agnes MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Isabella McCULLOCH. Born 14 Jun 1827 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 17 Jun 1827 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

At the time of Agnes's baptism the family was residing at Shewalton 5.

Agnes may have married Edward MCCALLUM on 18 Jun 1844 in Dundonald, Ayrshire or John MILLER on 31 Dec 1846 in Dundonald, Ayrshire 63. However, neither couple can be found on the 1881 Census in the Southwest of Scotland 38.

8. John MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Isabella McCULLOCH. Born 13 Jun 1829 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 12 Aug 1829 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

At the time of John's baptism, the family was residing at Shewalton. 5

John may be the one residing at Thomaston (Gate) in Kirkoswald at the time of the 1881 Census with wife, Sarrah and 2-year-old son James. He was born at Dundonald and was described as a Gardener's Labourer. His wife, Sarrah was born at Kirkmichael and her occupation was recorded as the Gatekeeper 38.

9. Helen Mure MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Isabella McCULLOCH. Born 20 Oct 1831 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 27 Nov 1831 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

At the time of Helen's baptism, the family was residing at Shewalton 5. No likely marriages for Helen have been found in Dundonald or surrounding areas 63.

10. Gilbert MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Isabella McCULLOCH. Born 29 Jan 1834 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 30 Mar 1834 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

At the time of Gilbert's baptism, the family was residing at Shewalton 5.

There was three Gilbert Murray's living in the Southwest of Scotland at the time of the 1881 Census. None give their birthplace as Dundonald, however all could relate to Gilbert 38.

The closest in age is the one living at Gurdie in Beith aged 35 who gave his birthplace as Irvine. He is an Engine Driver. His wife was Agnes aged 36 was born in Kilbirnie. They had at least five children, John aged 16, Catherine aged 11, Alexander aged 9, Margaret aged 7 and Isabella aged 5. Also residing with them was Agnes' mother, Margaret Smith 38. It is interesting to note that their children include an Alexander and an Isabella, both being Gilbert's parents names. This couple may be the ones who were married as Gilbert Murray and Agnes DICKSON on 24 May 1858 in Old Luce, Wigtown, Scotland, however her mother's name being Margaret Smith would not support this 63.

The next closest in age, is Gilbert R. Murray who was living at Finninness Cottage, Balmaghie, Kircudbright. He gave his age as 44 years and his birthplace as Kirkoswald. His wife, Magdalene was 33 and born in Manchester, England. They had at least 6 children, Margaret aged 15, Magdalene aged 6, Isabella aged 4, Marion aged 3, Janet aged 1 and 5 month old David 38. A likely marriage from the IGI has not been found 63.

The third Gilbert, was aged 51, was born in Girvan and was a shepherd. His wife, Catherine was 49 and born in Kirkoswald. Their children include, Annie aged 21, Agnes aged 19, Gilbert aged 14 and Jane aged 11 38. It is likely that his wife was Catherine McALISTER who married a Gilbert MURRAY on 2 Jun 1865 in Dalry, Ayrshire, Scotland 63.

11. Robert MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Isabella McCULLOCH. Born 15 Aug 1836 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 5 Jan 1837 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

At the time of Robert's baptism, the family was residing at Shewalton Colliery. 5

Two Robert Murray's have been identified on the 1881 Census, however neither give their birthplace as Dundonald. Robert Murry aged 48, gives his birthplace as Craigie. He is living at Inchbean Cottage at Riccarton, Ayrshire and is a Surfaceman on Railway. His wife, Helen is aged 50 and was born at Stonehouse, Lanarkshire. Their children include Robert aged 21, Marion aged 19, James aged 16, Ellen aged 14 and Elizabeth aged 11 38.

The other Robert, a shoemaker, is 40 years old and was born at Kilmarnock. His wife, Catherine is 41 years old and was born in Ayr, Ayrshire. Their children include Agnes, aged 15, Alexander aged 13, Christina aged 10, Jane aged 8 and Hannah aged 5 38.

The following Robert MURRAY marriages have been identified from the IGI 63:

Janet KING on 10 Dec 1858 Kirkmichael, Ayr, Scotland

Christina THOMSON on 13 Mar 1860 Ayr, Ayr, Scotland

Helen STEWART on 18 Jun 1861 Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland

Ellen BARR on 31 Dec 1862 Ardrossan, Ayr, Scotland

Fourth Generation

12. Isabella MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born Circa 1848 in Dalry, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 18.

Isabella is listed on the 1861 Census at Dalrymple with her parents, brothers and sisters aged 13 years. Her birthplace is given as Dalry, however a baptism for her cannot be located there, despite searches of both the Parish Registers and IGI.

It is most likely that Isabella married William DUFF on 28 Aug 1874 at Dalrymple. 7 If this is so, a William and Isabella DUFF have been located on the 1881 Census at 32 New St, Stevenston, Ayrshire. He was aged 27, a coalweigher, born Kilwinning and she was aged 30 and born in Dalry. They had three children, Sarah aged 6 years, Isabella aged 2 years and William aged 4 months. 38

13. William MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born Circa 1849 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 18.

William is listed on the 1861 Census at Dalrymple with his parents, brothers and sisters. He is aged 11 yrs and described as a scholar. His birthplace is listed as Kirkoswald, however a baptism for him is not recorded in the Parish Registers or on the IGI.

There are several William Murray's aged about 32 listed on the 1881 Census Index in Ayrshire. Unfortunately, none give their birthplace as Kirkoswald, Dalry or Dalrymple, the three parishes that William's parents resided in 38.

14. Alexander MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born Jan 1852 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Died 25 Oct 1852 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Buried 25 Oct 1852 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

Alexander died of inflammation aged 10 months, at Kirkoswald. 5

15. John MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born Circa 1853 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 18.

John is listed on the 1861 Census at Dalrymple with his parents, brothers and sisters. He is aged 8 yrs and described as a scholar. His birthplace is listed as Kirkoswald, however a baptism for him is not recorded in the Parish Registers nor is it noted on the IGI.

He married Annie. Born Circa 1856 in Renfrewshire, SCOTLAND 20.

They had the following children:

25 i. John A. MURRAY

26 ii. Charles M. MURRAY

It is believed that John is the 27-year-old living at 10 Alloway St, Ayr at the time of the 1881 Census. This John is a joiner and was born in Kirkoswald. He is married to Annie a 25 year old native of Renfrew and they have two children, John A. aged 2 years and Charles M. aged 11 months. 38

16. Janet Ritchie MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born 15 Jul 1855 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 6.

Janet was the first of Alexander and Sarah's children to be baptised at Dalrymple. She is listed on the 1861 Census at Dalrymple with her parents, brothers and sisters. She is aged 6 yrs and her birthplace is listed as Dalrymple. 18

Janet was living with her parents at Old Knockjarder, Dalrymple at the time of the 1871 Census. She was aged 15 years, born at Dalrymple. 19

While it is possible Janet may be the one who married James HARRISON on 19 Nov 1872 at New Cumnock, Ayrshire, she would have been only 17 years old at the time 7. This couple has not been identified on the 1881 Census 38.

17. Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born 12 May 1857 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 1. Died Aug 1896 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Buried 7 Aug 1896 in Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Occupation Domestic Servant (Cook) 3.

Martha was born at 2pm at the Old Knockjarder, Dalrymple. She was the sixth child of Alexander and Sarah Murray's thirteen children. Whilst she is the couple's third daughter, they appear to have not followed strict naming patterns, and it would seem most likely that she has been named after her mother's eldest sister, Martha Orr Campbell, not her mother which would have been usual practice. The two elder girls were named after their respective grandmother's and in fact the next girl was named after their mother, Sarah.

Martha is listed on the 1861 Census at Dalrymple with her parents, Alexander and Sarah and her brothers and sisters, Isabella, William, John, Janet and Sarah. She is aged 4 yrs and her birthplace is listed as Dalrymple.

Unfortunately, although the 1871 Census has been consulted for Dalrymple, Martha was not living in the family home. It would seem likely that she may have been in service at this time as she would have been 13 or 14 years of age, or she may have been visiting, however she was not noted elsewhere in Dalrymple. 19

At the time of the 1881 Census, it is believed Martha aged 23 years was the one in service as a cook in the home of Christina Miller at Racecourse Rd, Ayr. 38

She married George Graeme McDOUGALL, son of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST, 24 Nov 1882 in Martnaham in the parish of Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 3. Born 9 Nov 1855 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 1. Died Oct 1924 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Buried 31 Oct 1924 in Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Occupation Slater 3.

At the time of the 1881 Census George was residing at 19 Rodney St, Glasgow, the home of Agnes STEVEN. He was described as a boarder, unmarried aged 23, and a slater born in Girvan. 20 (LDS Reel 0203657).

It would seem most likely that Martha was still at the Ayr address at the time of her marriage. Her father was noted as deceased at this time, and he was not listed on the 1881 Census a year earlier either. Martha's 18 year old sister, Jane was a witness at her marriage along with an Alexander Barclay, possibly a friend of George's. George was still residing at the Rodney St. address in Glasgow and it is believed that both his parents were still living in Girvan, Ayrshire at this time. 3

Following their marriage, George and Martha resided in Glasgow at 369 and later 378 Garscube Rd 4. They are believed to have had five children, their names have been identified by their grandchildren, however their births, etc have not been confirmed at this time with the exception of Alexander's and Helen's. 25

27 i. Alexander Murray McDOUGALL

28 ii. George G. McDOUGALL

29 iii. John McDOUGALL

30 iv. Helen Forest McDOUGALL

31 v. James McDOUGALL

Martha died in her 39th year, just three months after the birth of her youngest child, James. She is buried in Liar No. 616 at Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow. A further 4 relatives were later buried in this liar including her son, James, grand-daughter, Cissie, her husband - and his second wife ! 4

Following the death of his first wife, Martha, George married Mary Cassidy, a widower. He predeceased her and died in 1924 just short of his 69th birthday. He is buried at Lambhill Cemetery in Lair No. 616. 4

Other members of the family buried in this lair include Martha McDougall, George's first wife; James McDougall, George and Martha's youngest son; Elizabeth McDougall, George and Martha's grand-daughter; and Mary McDougall, George's second wife.42

18. Sarah MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born 19 May 1859 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 6. Occupation Cook 38.

Sarah is listed on the 1861 Census at Dalrymple with her parents, brothers and sisters. She is aged 2 yrs and her birthplace is listed as Dalrymple.

Sarah was again living with her parents at Old Knockjarder, Dalrymple at the time of the 1871 Census. She was aged 11 years, born at Dalrymple and is described as a scholar. 19

At the time of the 1881 Census, Sarah was living with her mother, grandmother and younger brothers and sister at Old Martnaham, Coylton. She was aged 21 years and described as a cook.38

19. Alexander MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born 19 Apr 1861 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 6.

Alexander was living with his parents at Old Knockjarder, Dalrymple at the time of the 1871 Census. He was aged 9 years, born at Dalrymple and is described as a scholar. 19

20. Jane Campbell MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born 7 Jul 1863 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 6. Occupation General Servant 38.

Jane was living with her parents at Old Knockjarder, Dalrymple at the time of the 1871 Census. She was aged 7 years, born at Dalrymple. 19

It is likely that Jane is the 17-year-old servant to Annie McLeish of 17 Queens Terrace, Ayr at the time of the 1881 Census. 38

21. Mary MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born 13 Oct 1865 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 6.

Mary was living with her parents at Old Knockjarder, Dalrymple at the time of the 1871 Census. She was aged 5 years, born at Dalrymple. 19

It is possible that Mary is the 15-year-old servant to Thomas Robertson in Dalrymple at the time of the 1881 Census. 38

22. Thomas Campbell MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born 15 Jun 1867 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 6.

Thomas was living with his parents at Old Knockjarder, Dalrymple at the time of the 1871 Census. He was aged 3 years, born at Dalrymple. 19

Thomas was living with his mother, grandmother and brother and sisters at the time of the 1881 Census. He is aged 13 years, a farm servant, born in Dalrymple.38

23. Agnes MURRAY. Daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born 21 Apr 1869 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7.

Agnes was living with her parents at Old Knockjarder, Dalrymple at the time of the 1871 Census. She was aged 1 years, born at Dalrymple. 19

Agnes was living with her mother, grandmother, brothers and sister at the time of the 1881 Census. She is aged 11 years, a scholar, born in Dalrymple.38

24. James MURRAY. Son of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL. Born 27 May 1871 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 6.

James was living with his mother, grandmother, brother and sisters at the time of the 1881 Census. He is aged 9 years, a scholar, born in Dalrymple.38

It is possible that James is the 18-year-old servant residing with William BAIRD and his family at High Balsarrock at the time of the 1891 Census. This James was described as a farm servant and was born in Dalrymple. 21

Fifth Generation

25. John A. MURRAY. Son of John MURRAY & Annie. Born Circa 1879.

26. Charles M. MURRAY. Son of John MURRAY & Annie. Born Circa 1880.

27. Alexander Murray McDOUGALL. Son of George Graeme McDOUGALL & Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY. Born 22 Jun 1885 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 1. Died 2 Mar 1949 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Buried 3 Mar 1949 in Riddrie Park Cemetery. Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Occupation Dynamite Worker 3, Stationery Packer 12. Known As Sandy.

Alexander was born at 369 Garscube Rd, Glasgow at 11 am in the morning. 1

Alexander and his family lived in Stevenston for several years, however were living in Glasgow by 1919 when their daughter Elizabeth "Wee Cissie" died. It is believed they returned to Glasgow at the end of the war. The family resided at 117 Albert St, Townhead, however the street name was later changed to McAslin St.

Upon their return to Glasgow, Alexander was employed as a Stationary/Book Packer. Alexander's father-in-law, Albert Garrett came to live with the family during the 1920's and remained there until his death in 1939.

Alexander died at 63 years of age at the family home in McAslin St, and is buried in Lair No. 1531 at Riddrie Park Cemetery in Glasgow, together with his father-in-law, Albert Garrett. 42

He married Caroline Anstey GARRETT, daughter of Albert GARRETT & Martha STEWART, 29 Dec 1911 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 3. Born 15 Sep 1887 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 1. Died 17 Oct 1987 in Guildford, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2. Buried 21 Oct 1987 in Rookwood Cemetery, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2. Occupation Dynamite Worker 3.

Caroline was born at 11:55pm at 184 Parliamentary Rd, Glasgow. She was the fifth child of Albert and Martha's eight children. Her mother died when she was 16 years of age.

Like Alexander, Caroline was employed, as a Dynamite Worker at the Ardeer Factory in Stevenston, Ayrshire, and it was here that they met. Their marriage was witnessed by James McGill, Alexander's brother-in-law and someone surnamed Garret, however the given name is unclear on the marriage certificate. 3

They spent the early years of their married life living and working in Stevenston, however returned to Glasgow, some time after the birth of their second child, most likely at the end of the war.

Caroline's father, Albert Garrett came to live with them at some point in the 1920's and remained until his death in 1939.

Pictured above: Alexander with his wife, Caroline and their daughters, Cissie and Nellie, c1916.

Caroline resided with her sister, Elizabeth "Lizzie" after the death of Lizzie's husband. When Lizzie died in 1977, Caroline's daughter, Helen (who had also just lost her husband) returned to Scotland to bring her mother back to Australia with her.

Caroline spent her remaining years living with her daughters Helen and Caroline, the latter also moving to Australia following the death of her husband in 1981. Shortly before her 100th birthday, Caroline took ill and was admitted to hospital for the first time in her life. Although discharged from hospital she was unable to return home and spent her last few months at Guildford Nursing Home.

The following article appeared in 'The Advertiser' dated September 23, 1987 upon Caroline becoming a centurion:

100TH BIRTHDAY

A woman who emigrated from Scotland at the grand old age of 90 celebrated her 100th birthday at the Guildford Nursing Home last week.

Mrs Caroline MacDougall (sic) celebrated her big day with her daughters who also live in Guildford, and her six great grand daughters and great grandson.

Local piper, Mr Alex Burns, played the bagpipes, and really looked the part in his kilt.

Mr Stan Welch, who playes the piano at the home every week was also to hand to provide some birthday melodies.

Caroline emigrated from Scotland in 1977 meeting for the first time, her three granddaughters and her two grandsons.

When the staff asked her what she would like for her birthday last week she replied: 'All I'd like is a 5 pound note'.

Nursing home staff member, Dawn Stevens, said: 'We managed to buy one from Westpac bank. It cost us $13.40, and she was very impressed.' she said.

Some of the information in the above article is incorrect:

Caroline's three granddaughters, June, Carol and Irene (and two of their husbands, Barry and Colin) and her two grandsons, Robert and Richard were also present at her birthday celebrations. Her daughters Helen and Caroline were residing at Merrylands, not Guildford. Caroline had met all her grandchildren previously, the four eldest were infact born in Scotland. She had not however met any of her great grandchildren prior to migrating to Australia.

The following telegram was received from the Queen of England, Elizabeth R.:

I am very pleased to hear that you are celebrating your one hundredth birthday. I send you many congratulations on this happy occasion and my good wishes for an enjoyable day. Elizabeth R.

Caroline only lived another month and died of bronchopneumonia. She was cremated at Rookwood. 2

Alexander and Caroline had the following children:

32 i. Elizabeth Garrett McDOUGALL (right)

33 ii. Helen Forrest McDOUGALL (left)

34 iii. Caroline McDOUGALL

 

 

 

28. George G. McDOUGALL. Son of George Graeme McDOUGALL & Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY.

He married Jessie and they had the following children:

35 i. Clara McDOUGALL

36 ii. George McDOUGALL

37 iii. Ena McDOUGALL

29. John McDOUGALL. Son of George Graeme McDOUGALL & Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY. Died Circa 1917 in Dardenelles, FRANCE, died during WWI. 25

30. Helen Forest McDOUGALL. Daughter of George Graeme McDOUGALL & Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY. Born 1890 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 56.

She married James McGILL and they had the following children:

38 i. Christina McGILL

31. James McDOUGALL. Son of George Graeme McDOUGALL & Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY. Born Circa 1896. Died Jan 1897 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 5. Buried 7 Jan 1897 in Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 5.

James died at 8 months of age 5 months after his mother died. They are buried together in Lair No. 616 at Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow. Also buried in this grave are James' father, George, George's grand-daughter, Cissie and his second wife, Mary. 5

Sixth Generation

32. Elizabeth Garrett McDOUGALL. Daughter of Alexander Murray McDOUGALL & Caroline Anstey GARRETT. Born Oct 1913 in Stevenston, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND. Died 9 Sep 1919. Buried 12 Sep 1919 in Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND. Known As Wee Cissie.

Cissie died shortly before her 6th birthday of diphtheria. She is buried in Lair No. 616 at Lambhill Cemetery along with her grandparents, Martha and George and several others. 42

The following poem was printed on a memorial card for:

One leaf is lost, one bud is shed,

One flower less sees the sun,

A pulse has paused, a soul has fled,

A little life has run.

The flower that faded here below

Now blooms a flower above,

The star that set at early dawn

Now shines in realms of love.

Sweet is her memory, dear to our heart,

Our love and her memory never shall part;

We know that the years, be they many or few,

Are years of remembrance, dear Cissie, of you.

33. Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Daughter of Alexander Murray McDOUGALL & Caroline Anstey GARRETT. Born 6 Jul 1915 in Stevenston, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 1. Died 3 May 1997 in Westmead, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Buried 8 May 1997 in Rookwood Crematorium, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Occupation Drapery Saleswoman 3, Explosives Worker (During WWII). Known As Nellie.

Helen was born at 8:20am in the morning at the "The Folly" in Stevenston, Ayrshire, the second child of Alexander and Caroline McDougall. However, her family returned to Glasgow and lived at 117 McAslin St, for many years.

She married Robert Conway MARTIN, son of James MARTIN & Margaret Jane CONWAY, 24 Dec 1938 in Glasgow, SCOTLAND 3. Born 10 May 1914 in Stevenston, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND. Died 12 May 1977 in Merrylands, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2. Buried 16 May 1977 in Rookwood Crematorium, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2. Occupation Explosives Worker 3, Ironworker 2.

Helen was 24 years old when she married Bob on Christmas Eve at the Registry in Glasgow in 1938. The witnesses to their marriage were Rob's brother, William and Helen's sister, Caroline.

Following their marriage, Robert and Helen lived with Robert's family at "Seaview" in Stevenston until the family moved to Kilwinning Rd in the 1940's and later Robert and Helen had their own home at 6 Ashgrove Ave, Stevenston.

Helen and Robert had the following children:

81 i. June MARTIN (right)

82 ii. Caroline MARTIN (left)

83 iii. Irene MARTIN

84 iv. Robert MARTIN

85 v. Richard MARTIN

Robert migrated to Australia late in 1950 and bought a house and sent for Helen and the children. However, as Helen was expecting their son Robert, they had to wait until after his birth before sailing in 1951 on board the "Ormandie" arriving in Sydney on 19 July.

Upon their arrival in Australia Robert and Helen lived at 219 Elizabeth St, Zetland, Sydney. They rented rooms out to another family whom they had met on the voyage out to Australia. Later when Robert's brother Jim migrated he and his family also lived with Robert and Helen.

After several years in Australia, Helen and the children returned to Scotland in 1955 on the "Seven Seas". Robert followed shortly after staying to sell the family home. Whist back in Scotland, they lived with Helen's mother and aunt, at Kirkgate in Saltcoats, Ayrshire.

However, upon returning to Scotland, they decided to make their home permanently in Australia and returned in the same year. Robert and June travelled a few months earlier on the "Strathnaver" and Helen, Carol, Irene and Bob on the "Strathaird".

When the family returned to Australia in 1955 they lived at 15 Lillian St, Berala where their daughter Carol met her future husband, Colin Hails whose family also resided at Berala.

Robert travelled extensively, both prior to and after his marriage. He was involved with the International Brigade during the Spanish Civil War during the 1930's and was taken prisoner after the ship on which he was travelling was sunk.

The following appeared in the Glasgow newspaper "Evening News" dated 5 August, 1937:

BELLSHILL GIRL IN SPAIN - REPORTED RELEASE FROM PRISON

A report announcing the release of Ethel McDonald, a Bellshill woman, said to have been imprisoned in Barcelona, was received by her parents, Mr and Mrs McDonald, last night.

The story of Miss McDonald's release was given by Robert Martin, of Glencairn Street, Stevenston, Ayrshire, who out to join the International Brigade on May 30.

The ship on which martin crossed to Spain is said to have been torpedoed, and he himself taken to Barcelona and imprisoned there.

According to Martin, Miss McDonald was kept in prison for four days, and then released.

Robert and Helen lost all their money in a land swindle in 1957. In 1958 they moved to 479a Housing Settlement, Riverwood prior to purchasing their own home at 19 Lamb Cres, Merrylands in 1962.

Helen returned to Scotland in 1963 for a holiday. She travelled with her son Richard, via the USA where she met up her sister, Caroline, who travelled to Scotland with her. Her husband, Robert upon her return wrote the following poem:

Bonnie Nellie's coming back

She'll soon by on the joyful track

Bound for Australia's sunny strands

To 19 Lamb Crescent, Merrylands

She'll sail across to old Biscay Bay

And down the Med to Napoli

Back to Egypt's mystic shore

Where Nellie's walked the streets before

She'll see the rocks of Aden Grey

And then Colombo across the bay

But the fondest sight that Nell will see

Will be Old Rab at Circular Quay.

 

In the early 1970's Helen and Bob again visited Scotland and the US after her sister Caroline and her husband had retired to Florida.

Robert died of a heart attack at Merrylands Railway Station on his way to work just two days after his 63rd birthday and was cremated at Rookwood Crematorium. His daughter, June Bancroft wrote the following poem in memory of her father:

Some people come into this world

And one day quietly pass away

We wouldn't even know they're here

So insignificant are they.

My father he was different

A cheery noisy man

And if you didn't like him

He didn't give a dam.

He lived life to the fullest

He'd been most everywhere

Just name a foreign country

He's sure to have been there.

A rebel to society

Yet he loved his fellow man

To anyone who needed him

He'd lend a helping hand.

He dearly loved to argue

And he would always win

For no matter what we had to say

We couldn't out talk him.

He loved to sing and tell a joke

Speak to strangers in the street

I feel real sorry for

Those folks he didn't get to meet.

So I write this poem

And for what it's worth

I am proud to say, my father

Left his stamp upon this earth.

And if there is a heaven

I see him large as life and full of fun

Telling God and all the Angels

Just how things should be done.

Several months after her husband's death in 1977, Helen's Aunt Liz also passed away. As she and Helen's mother had lived together for many years, Helen went to Scotland and brought her mother back to live in Australia with her. Her sister, Caroline also settled in Australia and lived with Helen following the death of her husband in 1981, but returned to the United States each winter.

Helen died in May 1997 at Westmead Hospital after suffering with lymphoma for several months. She was cremated at Rookwood Garden Crematorium. 2

34. Caroline McDOUGALL. Daughter of Alexander Murray McDOUGALL & Caroline Anstey GARRETT. Born 11 Sep 1921 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND. Occupation Book Pager. Known As Carrie.

Caroline the youngest of Alexander and Caroline's children was born at 9:45pm at 117 Albert St, Glasgow, the informant, was her father. 1

She married Alexander CAMPBELL, son of John CAMPBELL & Mary McClelland GARRETT, 6 Sep 1947 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND. Born 5 Jun 1913 in Hamilton, SCOTLAND. Died 15 Feb 1981 in Port Charlotte, Florida, USA 2. Buried 17 Feb 1981 in Fort Myers Crematory, Florida, USA 2. Occupation Master Sergeant, US Army 2. Known As Alex.

Marriage of Alexander Campbell and Caroline McDougall, 1947

Left to right: James Stewart, Alexander Campbell, Caroline McDougall, Hannah Garrett

Alexander was born at 10 Woodside Walk, Hamilton and his birth was registered by his father. 1 However, the Campbell's migrated to the United States in the 1920's but kept in regular contact with Mary's family, in particular her sister, Caroline and her husband. Their daughters, Helen and Martha also corresponded.

Alexander joined the US Army and served during WWII, it was during his time in the UK that he met and then married his cousin Caroline at the Barony Church in Glasgow when she was 25 years of age. The witnesses to their marriage were her cousins, James Stewart and Hannah Garrett. 3

Following their marriage, Caroline and Alex were required to live where the army sent them, and this included some time in Germany and Japan, although they ultimately settled in Chicago, Illinios where Alex's family lived.

Upon their retirement, they moved to Florida. When Alex died in 1981, Caroline joined her sister and mother in Australia and migrated although she did return to the US every year. When her sister, Helen died in 1987, she returned to the US on a permanent basis and is now living with her cousin, Martha Niskach, and niece Carol Roote in Burbank, Illinios.

Alexander was 67 years old when he died at Fawcett Memorial Hospital of Cardiopulmonary due to Acute Myocardial infacktion. 2

The following was published in "The Sarasota Herald Tribune" on Feb 16, 1981:

Alexander Campbell, 67 318 Freemont St, North Port, died Sunday (Feb 15, 1981) at Fawcett Hospital, Port Charlotte.

He was born in Scotland and came to the area from Des Plains, Ill, in 1969.

He was a Master Seargant in the US Army, serving 20 years; was a member of the Evans Masonic Lodge 524 F&AM in Evanston, Ill.

He leaves his wife, Caroline, or North Port; two sisters, Mrs. Martha Niskach of North Lake, Ill., and Mrs. Jean Baker of Chicago, Ill.

Memorial services will be held Tuesday at 1pm at the Farley Funeral Home, North Port Chapel, with the Rev. Robert Thomas officiating.

Memorial donations may be made to the American Heart Association Suncoast Chapter, PO Box 3341, Sarasota.

35. Clara McDOUGALL. Daughter of George G. McDOUGALL & Jessie.

36. George McDOUGALL. Son of George G. McDOUGALL & Jessie.

37. Ena McDOUGALL. Daughter of George G. McDOUGALL & Jessie.

38. Christina McGILL. Daughter of James McGILL & Helen Forest McDOUGALL.

She married William TURNER.

Seventh Generation

39. June MARTIN. Daughter of Robert Conway MARTIN & Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Born Kilwinning, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND.

She married Barry Keith BANCROFT and they had the following children:

44 i. Wendy Helen BANCROFT

45 ii. Julie Ann BANCROFT

46 iii. Penelope Jane BANCROFT

40. Caroline MARTIN. Daughter of Robert Conway MARTIN & Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Born 2 Apr 1941 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 1. Occupation Retired Shop Assistant, Food For Less. Known As Carol or Cas.

Caroline was born at 5:15am in the Maternity Home in Kilwinning. At the time, her parents were residing with her paternal grandparents, at Seaview in Glencairn St, Stevenston. The informant was her father, Robert. 1

Caroline migrated to Australia in 1951 with her family on board the "Ormandie". Returned to Scotland in 1955 on the "Seven Seas", returning to Australia in the same year on the "Strathaird".

She married Colin Frederick HAILS, son of Alfred William HAILS & Esther Rose Lillian RAKE, 14 Jan 1961 in Bankstown, NSW, AUSTRALIA 3. Born 24 Dec 1939 in Merrylands, NSW, AUSTRALIA 1. Christen in Baptist Church, South Granville, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Occupation Senior Technical Officer, Telstra, Previously Motor Mechanic. Known As Col. Religion Baptist.

Colin was born on Christmas Eve in the family home at 11 Baker St, Merrylands. The witnesses were Dr. Stanton and Nurse Fish. His father was the informant of his birth. 1

In 1946 his mother purchased a home at 2 Third Avenue, Berala where he lived until he and his wife bought their own home.

Carol and Colin were married at the War Memorial Presbyterian Church at Bankstown. At the time Colin was living at Berala and Carol at Riverwood. The witnesses to their marriage were Colin's brother, Trevor, and Carol's sister, June Bancroft. 3

In 1963, Colin and Carol purchased their first home at 149 Smithfield Rd, Smithfield. They lived in the house for many years, but decided to sell once it was known that their street was to become a major four-lane highway. They sold their house in 1987 and purchased a property at 4 Bismark Rd, Northmead where they still reside.

They had the following children:

47 i. Vicki Lee HAILS

48 ii. Joanne HAILS

41. Irene MARTIN. Daughter of Robert Conway MARTIN & Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Born Kilwinning, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND.

She married John THOMPSON and they had the following children:

49 i. Mark Anthony THOMPSON

50 ii. Hayley Greer THOMPSON

42. Robert MARTIN. Son of Robert Conway MARTIN & Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Born Kilwinning, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND.

43. Richard MARTIN. Son of Robert Conway MARTIN & Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Born Canterbury, NSW, AUSTRALIA.

Eighth Generation

44. Wendy Helen BANCROFT. Daughter of Barry Keith BANCROFT & June MARTIN. Born Private.

She married John PANEK, in Castle Hill, NSW, AUSTRALIA.

They had the following children:

51 i. Mathew John PANEK

52 ii. Lauren Bethany Ellen PANEK

45. Julie Ann BANCROFT. Daughter of Barry Keith BANCROFT & June MARTIN. Born Private.

She married Gregory FAHEY, in Burwood, NSW, AUSTRALIA.

They had the following children:

53 i. Glenn Christopher FAHEY

54 ii. Kirsty FAHEY

46. Penelope Jane BANCROFT. Daughter of Barry Keith BANCROFT & June MARTIN. Born Private.

47. Vicki Lee HAILS. Daughter of Colin Frederick HAILS & Caroline MARTIN. Born 6 May 1962 in Bankstown, NSW, AUSTRALIA 1. Occupation IT Training Manager, Dept. of Community Services.

Vicki was born at Bankstown District Hospital. The witness to her birth was Sister Courney. The informant was her mother, Caroline. 1

48. Joanne HAILS. Daughter of Colin Frederick HAILS & Caroline MARTIN. Born 15 Oct 1965 in Auburn, NSW, AUSTRALIA 1. Occupation Mother/Wife - Previously Clerk, Waterboard. Known As Jo.

Joanne was born at Auburn District Hospital. The witnesses were Dr. Alexander, Sister Tupper and Nurse Berry. Her mother, Caroline was the informant. 1

She married Mark Richard KALEBIC, son of Nick KALEBIC & Margaret PEACOCK, 17 Jan 1987 in Croydon, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Born 24 Jun 1964 in Darlinghurst, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Occupation Engineer.

They had the following children:

55 i. Bronte Lee KALEBIC

56 ii. Georgia Paige KALEBIC

49. Mark Anthony THOMPSON. Son of John THOMPSON & Irene MARTIN. Born Private.

He married Jennifer HARDNER, in Wentworth Falls, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Born Private.

57 i. Freya Helen THOMPSON

50. Hayley Greer THOMPSON. Daughter of John THOMPSON & Irene MARTIN. Born Private.

She married Colin Michael JACKSON, in Blacktown, NSW, AUSTRALIA.

References

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Birth Certificate

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Death Certificate

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Marriage Certificate

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Family Papers

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Church Records

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International Genealogical Index (1984)

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International Genealogical Index (1988)

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Newspaper

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Child's Birth Certificate

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Child's Marriage Certificate

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Census (1861)

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Census (1871)

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Census (1881)

Reference Note 21

Census (1891)

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Oral History

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1881 Census Index

Reference Note 42

Local Council

Reference Note 56

Scots Origins 

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