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McDOUGALL FAMILY OF GIRVAN, AYRSHIRE, SCOTLAND

The McDougall family has been traced to Girvan, Ayrshire in Scotland and was settled here for many generations. In the late 1800's they began to disperse to other parts of Scotland and ultimately the world. My own branch of this family settled in Glasgow for several generations before some migrated to Australia. The spelling of the McDougall name has seen several variations, but it is interesting to note that the earlier records in Girvan relate to the name Dougal. I have recently been in contact with Jeanette Earl a fellow family historian who is also a descendant of this family who is now living in Canada. My direct line of descent is indicated in Bold typeface.

FIRST GENERATION

1. Andrew DOUGAL. Son of James DOUGAL & McCLYMONT. Born Circa 1768. Died 15 Apr 1861 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND. Occupation Cotton Weaver 5.

Unfortunately, a record of Andrew's baptism has not been found at this time.

A record of a marriage for Andrew and Jean has not been found either, however her maiden surname was recorded at the baptisms of their children. 7

Neither Andrew or his wife Jean appeared on the 1861 Census for Girvan, and it is likely that both were deceased at this time, however burial records have not yet been examined.

Descendent Jeanette Earl has since confirmed that Andrew died in 1861. His father's name was James. 64

He married Jean EARL, daughter of James EARL & Janet COCHRANE. Born 26 Dec 1776 in Colmonell, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Christen 27 Dec 1776 in Colmonell, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Died Before 1861.

Jean is the only known child of James Earl and his wife, Janet Cochrane. Unfortunately, Parish Registers for Colmonell have not been examined at this time.

They had the following children:

2 i. Jannet DOUGAL

3 ii. Jean McDOUGAL

4 iii. Andrew McDOUGAL

5 iv. Jannet McDOUGAL

6 v. Mary DOUGAL

7 vi. Margaret McDOUGAL

8 vii. David DOUGAL

9 viii. Alexander DOUGAL

10 ix. Elizabeth DOUGAL

 

SECOND GENERATION

2. Jannet DOUGAL. Daughter of Andrew DOUGAL & Jean EARL. Christen 12 Jan 1799 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7. Died Before 1805.

3. Jean McDOUGAL. Daughter of Andrew DOUGAL & Jean EARL. Christen 18 Oct 1800 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8.

4. Andrew McDOUGAL. Son of Andrew DOUGAL & Jean EARL. Christen 7 May 1803 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8. Died 18 Aug 1860.

He married Jean GRAY, 1 Jul 1832 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8. Born Circa 1807 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 62. They had the following children:

11 i. Thomas McDOUGAL

5. Jannet McDOUGAL. Daughter of Andrew DOUGAL & Jean EARL. Christen 3 May 1805 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8.

Jannet is noted on the 1871 Census residing on William Dryanans Land. A woollen winder, she is unmarried and aged 65 years, born Girvan. Also residing with Jannet are her niece Jane, and nephews, Archibald and Alexander. Although they appear on the Census with the name McDougall, it is believed they are the children of her sister, Elizabeth, who married James McDowall. 19

Janet has not been identified on the 1881 Census, so it is believed she died between 1871-1881.

6. Mary DOUGAL. Daughter of Andrew DOUGAL & Jean EARL. Born 24 Jul 1807 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8. Christen 26 Jul 1807 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7. Died 5 Mar 1891 64.

It is possible that Mary married Samuel MURPHEY at Maybole on 3 Jul 1838. 7

7. Margaret McDOUGAL. Daughter of Andrew DOUGAL & Jean EARL. Born 22 Dec 1809 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8. Christen 29 Dec 1809 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8.

She married Thomas McQUEEN, 10 Dec 1837 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 62. Born Circa 1809 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 62. Occupation Fisherman. They had the following children:

12 i. Margaret McQUEEN

13 ii. Thomas McQUEEN

14 iii. Andrew McQUEEN

15 iv. Jane McQUEEN

16 v. David McQUEEN

17 vi. James Kerr McQUEEN

Margaret and her husband were residing in Dalrymple St, Girvan on the evening of the 1881 Census. Thomas, a fisherman, was aged 80 years and born in Girvan. Margaret was aged 70 years, also born in Girvan. Also residing with them were three of their unmarried children, Andrew, Jane and David together with their 4 year old grand-daughter, Agnes McQueen. 20

8. David DOUGAL. Son of Andrew DOUGAL & Jean EARL. Born 18 Apr 1812 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8. Christen 26 Apr 1812 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7. Occupation Silk Weaver 18.

David married Sarah McCONNEL/McCONNELL, 21 Jan 1838 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7. Born Circa 1803 in Daily, Aryshire, SCOTLAND 19. Occupation Wool Winder 19. They had the following children:

18 i. Jane McDOUGAL

19 ii. Mary McDOUGAL

20 iii. David McDOUGAL

21 iv. Margaret McDOUGAL

22 v. Helen McDOUGAL

23 vi. John McDOUGAL

David and his family are noted on the 1861 Census at Girvan at Wilson St (LDS Reel 0103802). David was described as the head of the household, aged 46 years, a Silk Weaver born in Girvan. His wife, Sarah, was 50 years and also born in Girvan. Their children included Jane, who was unmarried and aged 24 years was a Cotton Weaver, as was their son, David, aged 19 years. Daughters, Margaret aged 17 and Helen aged 15 were both Cotton Winders. Their son, John, aged 11 years was a scholar. All their children were born in Girvan. 18

A Thomas McDougall and his wife Jane, were also residing at this address on the evening of the 1861 Census. It is believed this is David's nephew, as his brother Andrew had a son Thomas baptised at Girvan in 1833.

David, his wife, Sarah and their daughter, Margaret were still residing at Wilson St, Girvan on the evening of the 1871 Census. David, a wool weaver, born in Girvan, was aged 59. His wife, Sarah, born Daily a wool winder was aged 67. Also residing in the home was son, John aged 9, however this conflicts with John's baptism details. Is it possible this is an illegitimate son of Margaret's who was being raised by her parents? 19

David and his wife Sarah have both been identified on the 1881 Census Index again at Wilson St, Girvan. David was described as a Woollen Weaver. Their ages given are 68 and 78 respectively and both were born in Girvan. Also in the house was their daughter Margaret aged 38, although listed as a McDougall she is noted as being married and her occupation is described as a weaver. Son, John aged 19, a joiner, is also still listed, however see notes for previous census. 20

9. Alexander DOUGAL. Son of Andrew DOUGAL & Jean EARL. Born 25 Mar 1815 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND. Christen 9 Apr 1815 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7. Died After 1882 13. Occupation Weaver 12.

Alexander is the fourth known child of Andrew Dougall and Jean Earl. Alexander, his brother and sisters, and infact his own children were baptised as Dougall. The earliest instance of the spelling McDougall is the 1861 Census.

The Parish Registers for Girvan (LDS Reel 1041380) revealed that Alexander and Helen had banns proclaimed on 6th and 13th September and were duly married on 18th September, 1835. Their marriage is recorded in the Parish Register as DOUGAL and FORREST, however is recorded on the 1984 IGI as McDOUGAL and FOREST and the 1988 International Genealogical Index (IGI) as DOUGALL and FOREST.

He married Helena Annie FORREST, 18 Sep 1835 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND. Born Circa 1815 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, SCOTLAND 12. Died After 1882 13.

To date, Helena's birth or baptism has not been found. The 1861, 1871 and 1881 Census all indicate she was born in Girvan, however her son, George's birth certificate indicates she was born in Edinburgh. A search of both counties on the IGI has failed to reveal an appropriate entry. Other census records may further clarify this.

It is possible that Helena's mothers name was Margaret as she had two daughters both named Margaret, the eldest dying in childhood. Her father may have been either David or James, although the family does not appear to have followed strict Scottish naming patterns. However, as Alexander had had a brother, David, it is more likely her father was James.

They had the following children:

24 i. David McDOUGAL

25 ii. James McDOUGAL

26 iii. Andrew McDOUGAL

27 iv. James Forest McDOUGAL

28 v. Margaret McDOUGAL

29 vi. Robert McDOUGAL

30 vii. Alexander McDOUGAL

31 viii. Thomas McDOUGAL

32 ix. Margaret McDOUGAL

33 x. George Graeme McDOUGALL

At the time of the 1861 Census Alexander and his family were residing in Wilson St, Girvan. Alexander was aged 42 years and his occupation given as Fancy Dress Weaver, born, Girvan. His wife's name is recorded as Elenor, she is aged 40 yrs and was also born in Girvan. Their children include Robert, 11 yrs, Fancy Dress Weaver, Alexander, 12 yrs, Scholar, Thomas, 10 yrs, Scholar, George, 8 yrs, and Margaret, 6 yrs, Scholar, all born Girvan. 18 (LDS Reel 0103802)

Given the baptisms found to date, and the children listed on the 1861 Census it is likely that their son James born in 1837 and daughter Margaret born in 1844 both died as infants. This would also account for the one son and one daughter that are noted as deceased at the time of George's birth. It is also possible that the ages given on the census for George and Margaret are reversed, as George was only aged 6 at this time.

At the time of the 1871 Census, Alexander and Helen(a) were still living at Wilson St, Girvan. Both Alexander and Helen were aged 55 and born in Girvan. Alexander was described as a Wool Weaver, Helena a wool weaver's wife. Also residing with them were their children, Andrew aged 28, Alexander aged 22, Thomas aged 20, Margaret aged 18 and George, aged 15. 19

Alexander and his wife, have both been identified on the 1881 Census Index for Ayrshire at Wilson St, Girvan. Alexander, a woollen weaver, was aged 54, his wife, who was recorded, as Ellen is aged 55 years. These ages are approximately 10 years out, and may have been unclear on the original documents and are most likely, 64 and 65 years respectively. Their son, Robert, aged 32 years, a fisherman, was also residing with them at the time. 38

Unfortunately, Thomas is the only other of Alexander and Helena's children to have been identified on the 1881 Census in Girvan. As their youngest son, George was living in Glasgow, it is possible that other son's had moved there also.

Neither Alexander nor his wife are noted as deceased at the time of their son George's marriage in 1882, so it is believed they were both still living at this time.

Alexander and Helena do not appear to have been living in Girvan at the time of the 1891 Census. Whether this indicates they were deceased at this time or may have moved, it is not known. However a search of the Scottish Death Indexes could not positively identify deaths for either during the 1881-1891 period. 21

10. Elizabeth DOUGAL. Daughter of Andrew DOUGAL & Jean EARL. Born 31 Aug 1818 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND. Christen 27 Sep 1818 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7. Died 12 Feb 1883.

Elizabeth married James McDOWALL, 22 Dec 1842 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8. Born Circa 1814 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND. Occupation Shoemaker 20.

James and Elizabeth have been identified on the 1881 Census, residing at 1 Tennant Place, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire. James who was described as a shoemaker, was aged 59 and his birthplace was noted as Kirkolm, Wigtown. Elizabeth, aged 60 was born in Girvan. Four children were residing with them that evening, Jeanie, Elizabeth, Andrew and Janet along with two grandchildren, William aged 11 and Maggie aged 6. 20

Of their grandchildren, several possible baptisms for William were found but none for Maggie. It would be possible that William is the one who was baptised 5 May, 1868 son of Archibald and his wife Margaret Hutcheson. However, Archibald has been found on the 1881 Census in Girvan in Plumb St, with a wife named Janet and 3 children. Is it possible that his first wife, died, and this child went to live with grandparents? 20

Elizabeth and James had the following children:

34 i. Jane McDOWALL

35 ii. Archibald McDOWALL

36 iii. Elizabeth McDOWALL

37 iv. Andrew McDOWALL

38 v. James McDOWALL

39 vi. William McDOWALL

40 vii. John McDOWALL

41 viii. Andrew McDOWALL

42 ix. James Wilson McDOWALL

43 x. Alexander McDOWALL

44 xi. Janet McDOWALL

A descendant of this family, Jeanette Earl is also researching her family history - please contact me if you would like to make contact with her.

THIRD GENERATION

11. Thomas McDOUGAL. Son of Andrew McDOUGAL & Jean GRAY. Christen 27 Jan 1833 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 7. Occupation Fancy Dress Weaver 18, Weaving Agent 20.

Thomas' baptism on the IGI is record as DOUGALD and his mother noted as Jane, not Jean.

Thomas married Jane. Born Circa 1837 in Colmonell, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 19. A marriage for Thomas to Jane has not been found, however there is one to a Jean Campbell on 27 April, 1858 in Girvan 8. They had the following children:

45 i. Agnes McDOUGAL

46 ii. Elizabeth McDOUGAL

47 iii. Andrew McDOUGAL

48 iv. Jane Gray McDOUGAL

49 v. Thomas McDOUGAL

50 vi. Robert Forrest McDOUGAL

51 vii. Margaret McDOUGAL

52 viii. Alexander McDOUGAL

Thomas and his wife Jane were residing with his uncle, David at Wilson St, Girvan on the evening of the 1861 Census. 18

The Thomas McDougall family was also identified on the 1871 Census Index residing at High St, Girvan. Thomas and Jane had five children at the time, Agnes aged 9, Elizabeth aged 7, Andrew aged 4, Jane aged 2 and Thomas aged 6 months. 19

Thomas appeared on the 1881 Census at Dalrymple St, Girvan with his wife, 7 children and a lodger. He was described as a Weaving Agent, was aged 48 years and born in Girvan. His wife, Jane, was aged 44 years and also born in Girvan. Their children were Elizabeth, Andrew, Jane, Thomas, Robert, Margaret and Alexander. Lodger, Roderick McLeod, a General Draper, who was aged 26 was from Polewe, Ross and Cromarty. 20

12. Margaret McQUEEN. Daughter of Thomas McQUEEN & Margaret McDOUGAL. Christen 2 Sep 1838 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 62.

13. Thomas McQUEEN. Son of Thomas McQUEEN & Margaret McDOUGAL. Christen 29 Mar 1840 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8. Occupation Fisherman 20.

Thomas and his family have been identified on the 1881 Census in residing in Wilson St, Girvan, Ayr, Scotland. A fisherman, he was aged 40, and gave his birthplace as Girvan. His wife, Agnes, aged 37 was also born Girvan. Their children were Margaret, aged 6 and Andrew aged 1. Also residing with them, was Agnes' mother, Ellen SHIELDS a widow, aged 60, a Cotton Weaver, who was born in Ireland. 20

He married Agnes ARMSTRONG, 1 Apr 1872 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND, daughter of David ARMSTRONG and Ellen SHIELDS 64, 3. Born Circa 1844 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 38. They had the following children:

53 i. Margaret McQUEEN

54 ii. Andrew McQUEEN

14. Andrew McQUEEN. Son of Thomas McQUEEN & Margaret McDOUGAL. Christen 1 May 1842 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 62. Occupation Fisherman 20.

Andrew was residing with his parents on the evening of the 1881 Census at Dalrymple St, Girvan. Like his father, he was a fisherman. He was aged 30, born in Girvan. 20

15. Jane McQUEEN. Daughter of Thomas McQUEEN & Margaret McDOUGAL. Christen 20 Oct 1844 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 8.

Jane was aged 24 at the time of the 1881 Census, when she was residing with her parents at Dalrymple St, Girvan. 20

16. David McQUEEN. Son of Thomas McQUEEN & Margaret McDOUGAL. Christen 18 Jan 1846 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 62. Occupation Joiner 20.

David was living with his parents on the evening of the 1881 Census at Dalrymple St, Girvan. A Joiner, he was aged 22, born in Girvan. 20

17. James Kerr McQUEEN. Son of Thomas McQUEEN & Margaret McDOUGAL. Christen 13 May 1849 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 62.

18. Jane McDOUGAL. Daughter of David DOUGAL & Sarah McCONNEL/McCONNELL. Born 21 Jan 1837 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 12 Feb 1837 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Occupation Cotton Weaver 18.

Jane's name at her baptism is illegible, however, she is noted on the 1861 Census, aged 24 yrs.

19. Mary McDOUGAL. Daughter of David DOUGAL & Sarah McCONNEL/McCONNELL. Born 8 Mar 1839 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 14 Apr 1839 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

Mary was not residing with her parents on the evening of the 1861 Census, and is likely to have married at this time.

20. David McDOUGAL. Son of David DOUGAL & Sarah McCONNEL/McCONNELL. Born 28 May 1841 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 13 Jun 1841 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Occupation Cotton Weaver 18.

21. Margaret McDOUGAL. Daughter of David DOUGAL & Sarah McCONNEL/McCONNELL. Born 22 Dec 1843 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 21 Jan 1844 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Occupation Cotton Winder 18.

She married George HANNAH, 19 Mar 1872 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 3. Born Circa 1831. Occupation Seaman 3.

Margaret was living with her parents at the time of the 1871 Census. She was aged 27 years and described as a wool weaver.19

At the time of the 1881 Census, Margaret, then aged 38 years was living with her parents at Wilson St, Girvan. 38

Although Margaret married George Hannah in 1872, no further record of this couple has been found to date - it is not yet known why she was living with her parents in 1881 and using her maiden surname.

22. Helen McDOUGAL. Daughter of David DOUGAL & Sarah McCONNEL/McCONNELL. Born 24 Nov 1845 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 22 Feb 1846 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Occupation Cotton Weaver 18.

23. John McDOUGAL. Son of David DOUGAL & Sarah McCONNEL/McCONNELL. Born 30 Aug 1849 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 16 Sep 1849 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Occupation Joiner 38.

John was living with his parents at Wilson St, Girvan at the time of the 1871 Census. He was aged 9 years and described as a Scholar. 19

At the time of the 1881 Census, John was still residing with his parents at Wilson St, Girvan. He was then aged 19 years and described as a Joiner. 38

24. David McDOUGAL. Son of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST. Born 18 Dec 1835 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 27 Dec 1835 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

David's baptism is recorded in the Parish Registers as the son of Alexr DOUGAL and Helen FORREST.

25. James McDOUGAL. Son of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST. Born 7 Oct 1837 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 22 Oct 1837 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Died Before 1842.

As another son named James was born in 1842, it is presumed that this James died in infancy although no record of this has been found as yet.

26. Andrew McDOUGAL. Son of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST. Born 8 Sep 1839 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 29 Sep 1839 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Occupation Wool Weaver 19.

Andrew's baptism is recorded in the Parish Registers as the son of Abr DOUGAL and Helena FORREST. The IGI records his mother as Helenor.

Andrew was living in Wilson St, Girvan with his parents at the time of the 1871 Census. He was born in Girvan aged 28 years and described as a Wool Weaver. 19

Whilst a marriage has not been identified for Andrew at this time, the family of an Elizabeth McDougall, daughter of Margeret Duff has been identified on the 1891 Census at 53 Wilson St, Girvan - including children, Andrew, Margaret, Robert and Ellen. 21

27. James Forest McDOUGAL. Son of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST. Born 26 Apr 1842 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 22 May 1842 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5.

James's baptism is recorded in the Parish Registers as the son of Alexr DOUGAL and Helen FOREST.

28. Margaret McDOUGAL. Daughter of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST. Born 25 Apr 1844 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 19 May 1844 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Died Before 1854.

Margaret's baptism is recorded in the Parish Registers as the daughter of Alexr DOUGALL and Helen FORREST. It is believed she died in infancy, as another child named Margaret was born to this couple in 1853.

29. Robert McDOUGAL. Son of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST. Born 26 May 1846 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Christen 28 Jun 1846 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 5. Occupation Fancy Dress Weaver 18, Fisherman 38.

Robert's baptism is recorded in the Parish Registers as the son of Alexr DOUGAL and Helen FOREST.

At the time of the 1861 Census, Robert was living with his parents in Wilson St, Girvan. He was born in Girvan, aged 14 years and described as a Fancy Dress Weaver. 18

He married Margaret HISLOP, 4 Dec 1874 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 3. Born Circa 1847. Occupation Shopkeeper.

Robert has been identified on the 1881 Census Index at Wilson St, Girvan in the home of his parents. He is aged 32 years and described as a fisherman. 38 It is not known what became of his wife at this time.

30. Alexander McDOUGAL. Son of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST. Born Circa 1849 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 18. Occupation Wool Weaver 19.

At the time of the 1861 Census, Alexander was living with his parents in Wilson St, Girvan. He was born in Girvan, aged 12 years and described as a scholar.18

Alexander was living in Wilson St, Girvan with his parents at the time of the 1871 Census. He was born in Girvan aged 22 years and described as a Wool Weaver. 19

31. Thomas McDOUGAL. Son of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST. Born Circa 1851 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 18. Occupation Wool Weaver 19, Mason 20.

At the time of the 1861 Census, Thomas was living with his parents in Wilson St, Girvan. He was born in Girvan, aged 10 years and described as a scholar.18

Thomas was living in Wilson St, Girvan with his parents at the time of the 1871 Census. He was born in Girvan aged 20 years and described as a Wool Weaver. 19

He married Elizabeth C. Born Circa 1853 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20. They had the following children:

55 i. Helen McDOUGAL

56 ii. Jane McDOUGAL

57 iii. Janet McDOUGAL

Thomas and his family have been identified on the 1881 Census at Wilson St, Girvan. Thomas is a Mason, aged 28 and born in Girvan. His wife, Elizabeth, also aged 28 and both Girvan. Their children included Helen, aged 8, Jane aged 2 and Janet aged 3months. Also residing with the family is John Lennox a 39-year-old lodger who was born in Greenock, Renfrew.38

32. Margaret McDOUGAL. Daughter of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST. Born Circa 1853 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 19. Occupation Housemaid 19.

At the time of the 1861 Census, Margaret was living with her parents in Wilson St, Girvan. She was born in Girvan, aged 6 years and described as a scholar.18

Margaret was living in Wilson St, Girvan with her parents at the time of the 1871 Census. She was born in Girvan aged 18 years and described as a housemaid. 19

33. George Graeme McDOUGALL. Son of Alexander DOUGAL & Helena Annie FORREST. Born 9 Nov 1855 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 1. Died Oct 1924 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Buried 31 Oct 1924 in Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Occupation Slater 3.

George's birth occurred in 1855, the first year of Civil Registration in Scotland. During 1855 details of other children born are listed on birth certificates. George's birth certificate states that he was the 10th child and that there were 6 boys and 1 girl living, and 1 boy and 1 girl deceased. George was born at 9pm in the evening. Whilst his birth was registered as McDOUGAL, his marriage is registered as McDOUGALL, and the latter spelling has been noted on all official documents relating to this family since that time.

George appeared on the 1861 Census at Wilson St, Girvan with his parents, Alexander and Helena, together with his brothers Robert, Alexander, and Thomas and his sister, Margaret. He was described as being 8 years of age (which was infact incorrect), a scholar and born in Girvan.18 (LDS Reel 0103802)

George was still living in Wilson St, Girvan with his parents at the time of the 1871 Census. He was born in Girvan aged 15 years and described as a scholar. 19

At the time of the 1881 Census George was residing at 19 Rodney St, Glasgow, the home of Agnes STEVEN. He was described as a boarder, unmarried aged 23, a slater born in Girvan. 20 (LDS Reel 0203657).

George married Martha Murray a year later at Martnaham in the Parish of Dalrymple however was still residing at the Rodney St. address in Glasgow. It is believed that both his parents were still living in Girvan, Ayrshire at this time. 3

He first married Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY, daughter of Alexander MURRAY & Sarah Cockburn CAMPBELL, 24 Nov 1882 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 3. Born 12 May 1857 in Dalrymple, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 1. Died Aug 1896 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Buried 7 Aug 1896 in Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Occupation Domestic Servant (Cook) 3.

Martha was born at 2pm at the Old Knockjarder, Dalrymple. She was the sixth child of Alexander and Sarah Murray's thirteen children. Whilst she is the couple's third daughter, they appear to have not followed strict naming patterns, and it would seem most likely that she has been named after her mother's eldest sister, Martha Orr Campbell, not her mother which would have been usual practice. The two elder girls were named after their respective grandmother's and in fact the next girl, was named after her mother, Sarah.

Martha is listed on the 1861 Census at Dalrymple with her parents, Alexander and Sarah and her brothers and sisters, Isabella, William, John, Janet and Sarah. She is aged 4 yrs and her birthplace is listed as Dalrymple.

Unfortunately, although the 1871 Census has been consulted for Dalrymple, Martha was not living in the family home. It would seem likely that she may have been in service at this time as she would have been 13/14 years of age, or she may have been visiting, however she was not noted elsewhere in Dalrymple. 19

At the time of the 1881 Census, Martha aged 23 years was in service as a cook in the home of Christina Miller at Racecourse Rd, Ayr. 38

It would seem most likely that Martha was still at this address at the time of her marriage a year later. Her father was noted as deceased at this time, and he was not listed on the 1881 Census a year earlier either. Martha's 18 year old sister, Jane was a witness at her marriage along with an Alexander Barclay, possibly a friend of George's. 3

Following their marriage, George and Martha resided in Glasgow at 369 and later 378 Garscube Rd. They are believed to have had five children, Alexander, George, John, Helen and James. 4 The names of Martha and George's children have been identified by their grandchildren, however their births, etc have not been confirmed at this time with the exception of Alexander's and Helen's. 25

Martha died in her 39th year, just three months after the birth of her youngest child, James. 4

She is buried in Liar No. 616 at Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow. A further 4 relatives were later buried in this liar including her son, James, granddaughter, Cissie, her husband - and his second wife! 4

They had the following children:

58 i. Alexander Murray McDOUGALL

59 ii. George G. McDOUGALL

60 iii. John McDOUGALL

61 iv. Helen Forest McDOUGALL

62 v. James McDOUGALL

He second married Mary CASSIDY, widow, daughter of John McDONALD & Ann LAURIESON. Born Circa 1861 2. Died 7 Apr 1928 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 2. Buried 10 Apr 1928 in Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4.

Following the death of his first wife, Martha, George married Mary Cassidy, a widower. He predeceased her and died in 1924 just short of his 69th birthday. He is buried at Lambill Cemetery in Lair No. 616. 4

The informant at Mary's death was her step-son, George McDougall. She died of senility and pneumonia. 2

Mary is buried in Lair No. 616 at Lambhill Cemetery. Other members of the family buried in this lair include Martha McDougall, George's first wife; James McDougall, George and Martha's youngest son; Elizabeth McDougall, George and Martha's grand-daughter; and Mary McDougall, George's second wife.42

34. Jane McDOWALL. Daughter of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Christen 10 Apr 1844 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Occupation Dressmaker 20. Known as Jeanie.

Jane was residing with her parents at 1 Tennant Place, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire on the evening of the 1881 Census. A dressmaker, she was recorded as Jeanie, aged 37 born Girvan. 20

35. Archibald McDOWALL. Son of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Christen 23 Jul 1846 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Occupation Shoemaker 20.

He married Janet. Born Circa 1852 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20. They had the following children:

63 i. James McDOWALL

64 ii. Mary McDOWALL

65 iii. Elizabeth McDOWALL

It is likely Archibald is the one noted on the 1881 Census at Plumb St, Girvan. Described as a shoemaker, he was aged 34 and born Girvan. His wife, Janet was 29 also born Girvan. Their children, James aged 7, Mary aged 5 and Elizabeth aged 1 were all born in Girvan. 20

36. Elizabeth McDOWALL. Daughter of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Christen 2 Oct 1847 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Occupation Machinist 20.

Elizabeth was residing with her parents at 1 Tennant Place, Old Monkland, Lanark on the evening of the 1881 Census. A machinist, she was aged 34, born Girvan. 20

37. Andrew McDOWALL. Son of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Born 1848 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Died Before 1854.

As another son named Andrew was born c1854, it would seem likely that Andrew died in childhood.

38. James McDOWALL. Son of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Christen 30 Oct 1849 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Occupation Foreman Engine Fitter 20.

The only James McDOWALL noted on the 1881 Census born in Girvan was the one residing at 8B Silvergrove Street, Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland aged 33, born Girvan, Foreman Engine Fitter and wife, Mary, aged 36 born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. 20

39. William McDOWALL. Son of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Christen 5 Jan 1851 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63.

The only William McDOWALL noted on the 1881 Census, born in Girvan was residing at 15 Cartsburn St, East Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland. He was married, aged 30, born Girvan, a Riveter. His wife, Sarah, was aged 33 born Ireland. Their children include, Martha aged 6, Mary, aged 5 and Ellen aged 1 all born Dunbarton. Also residing with William and his family were Ellen O'Brien, his mother in law, a widow, aged 60, born Ireland, a Domestic Servant. Frank MC BRYDE, an unmarried boarder aged 36, also from Ireland, a Labourer (Iron Yard) and John O'BRIEN, also unmarried, aged 42 born Ireland, a Riveter. 20

40. John McDOWALL. Son of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Born Circa 1851 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Occupation Shoemaker.

John may be the one identified on the 1881 Census at Main Street, Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland aged 29, born Girvan, a shoemaker with wife, Margaret aged 27 also born Girvan. Their children include Maggie age 5 and James aged 1 both born Girvan and Susan HARRIS aged 14 born Glasgow, a General Servant. 20

He married Margaret. Born Circa 1854 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND. They had the following children:

66 i. Maggie McDOWALL

67 ii. James McDOWALL

41. Andrew McDOWALL. Son of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Born Circa 1854 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Occupation Shoemaker 20.

Andrew was residing with his parents at 1 Tennant Place, Old Monkland, Lanark on the evening of the 1881 Census. A shoemaker, he was aged 26 and born Girvan. 20

42. James Wilson McDOWALL. Son of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Christen 11 Apr 1856 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Died 10 Apr 1939 in Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 62.

It would seem likely that James might be the one boarding at Townhead, Avondale, Lanarkshire in the home of Adam and Maggie Dickson at the time of the 1881 Census. He was aged 24 years and described as a shoemaker, born in Girvan. 20

He married Elizabeth GARVEN, 23 Jun 1881 in Montgreenon, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 62. Born 9 Nov 1855 in Montgreenon, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 62. Died 9 Aug 1940 in Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 62. They had the following children:

68 i. Elizabeth Collins McDOWALL

69 ii. Jane Yearl McDOWALL

70 iii. Margaret Smellie McDOWALL

71 iv. Janet Garvan McDOWALL

72 v. May McDOWALL

73 vi. James McDOWALL

43. Alexander McDOWALL. Son of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Christen 2 Jan 1859 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63.

44. Janet McDOWALL. Daughter of James McDOWALL & Elizabeth DOUGAL. Christen 12 Aug 1861 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 63. Occupation Dressmaker 20.

Janet was residing with her parents at 1 Tennant Place, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire on the evening of the 1881 Census. A dressmaker, she was aged 19 and born in Girvan. 20

 

FOURTH GENERATION

45. Agnes McDOUGAL. Daughter of Thomas McDOUGAL & Jane. Born Circa 1862 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 19.

It would appear that Agnes was residing at 46 Dundas St, Govan, Lanarkshire on the evening of the census in 1881 in the home of Mary CALDWELL as a boarder. Her occupation was given as Manufacturers Clerk. She was aged 19 years and born in Girvan. 20

46. Elizabeth McDOUGAL. Daughter of Thomas McDOUGAL & Jane. Born Circa 1864 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

47. Andrew McDOUGAL. Son of Thomas McDOUGAL & Jane. Born Circa 1867 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20. Occupation Apprentice Grocer 20.

48. Jane Gray McDOUGAL. Daughter of Thomas McDOUGAL & Jane. Born Circa 1869 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

49. Thomas McDOUGAL. Son of Thomas McDOUGAL & Jane. Born Circa 1871 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

50. Robert Forrest McDOUGAL. Son of Thomas McDOUGAL & Jane. Born Circa 1873 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

51. Margaret McDOUGAL. Daughter of Thomas McDOUGAL & Jane. Born Circa 1876 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

52. Alexander McDOUGAL. Son of Thomas McDOUGAL & Jane. Born Circa 1877 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

53. Margaret McQUEEN. Daughter of Thomas McQUEEN & Agnes SHIELDS. Born Circa 1875 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

54. Andrew McQUEEN. Son of Thomas McQUEEN & Agnes SHIELDS. Born Circa 1880 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

55. Helen McDOUGAL. Daughter of Thomas McDOUGAL & Elizabeth C.. Born Circa 1873 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

56. Jane McDOUGAL. Daughter of Thomas McDOUGAL & Elizabeth C.. Born Circa 1879 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

57. Janet McDOUGAL. Daughter of Thomas McDOUGAL & Elizabeth C.. Born Circa 1881 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

58. Alexander Murray McDOUGALL. Son of George Graeme McDOUGALL & Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY. Born 22 Jun 1885 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 1. Died 2 Mar 1949 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Buried 3 Mar 1949 in Riddrie Park Cemetery. Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 4. Occupation Dynamite Worker 3, Stationery Packer 12. Known As Sandy.

Alexander was born at 369 Garscube Rd, Glasgow at 11 am in the morning. 1

Alexander and his family lived in Stevenston for several years, however were living in Glasgow by 1919 when their daughter Elizabeth "Wee Cissie" died. It is believed they returned to Glasgow at the end of the war. The family resided at 117 Albert St, Townhead, however the street name was later changed to McAslin St.

Upon their return to Glasgow, Alexander was employed as a Stationary/Book Packer. Alexander's father-in-law, Albert Garrett came to live with the family during the 1920's and remained there until his death in 1939.

Alexander died at 63 years of age at the family home in McAslin St, and is buried in Lair No. 1531 at Riddrie Park Cemetery in Glasgow, together with his father-in-law, Albert Garrett. 42

He married Caroline Anstey GARRETT, daughter of Albert GARRETT & Martha STEWART, 29 Dec 1911 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 3. Born 15 Sep 1887 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 1. Died 17 Oct 1987 in Guildford, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2. Buried 21 Oct 1987 in Rookwood Cemetery, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2. Occupation Dynamite Worker 3.

Caroline was born at 11:55pm at 184 Parliamentary Rd, Glasgow. She was the fifth child of Albert and Martha's eight children. Her mother died when she was 16 years of age.

Like Alexander, Caroline was employed as a Dynamite Worker at the Ardeer Factory in Stevenston, Ayrshire, and it was here that they met. Their marriage was witnessed by James McGill, Alexander's brother-in-law and someone surnamed Garret, however the given name is unclear on the marriage certificate. 3

They spent the early years of their married life living and working in Stevenston, however returned to Glasgow, some time after the birth of their second child, most likely at the end of the war.

Caroline's father, Albert Garrett came to live with them at some point in the 1920's and remained until his death in 1939.

Caroline resided with her sister, Elizabeth "Lizzie" after the death of Lizzie's husband. When Lizzie died in 1977, Caroline's daughter, Helen (who had also just lost her husband) returned to Scotland to bring her mother back to Australia with her.

Pictured above: Alexander with his wife, Caroline and their daughters, Cissie and Nellie, c1916.

Caroline spent her remaining years living with her daughters Helen and Caroline, the latter also moving to Australia following the death of her husband in 1981. Shortly before her 100th birthday, Caroline took ill and was admitted to hospital for the first time in her life. Although discharged from hospital she was unable to return home and spent her last few months at Guildford Nursing Home.

The following article appeared in 'The Advertiser' dated September 23, 1987 upon Caroline becoming a centurion:

100TH BIRTHDAY

A woman who emigrated from Scotland at the grand old age of 90 celebrated her 100th birthday at the Guildford Nursing Home last week.

Mrs Caroline MacDougall (sic) celebrated her big day with her daughters who also live in Guildford, and her six great grand daughters and great grandson.

Local piper, Mr Alex Burns, played the bagpipes, and really looked the part in his kilt.

Mr Stan Welch, who playes the piano at the home every week was also to hand to provide some birthday melodies.

Caroline emigrated from Scotland in 1977 meeting for the first time, her three granddaughters and her two grandsons.

When the staff asked her what she would like for her birthday last week she replied: 'All I'd like is a 5 pound note'.

Nursing home staff member, Dawn Stevens, said: 'We managed to buy one from Westpac bank. It cost us $13.40, and she was very impressed.' she said.

Some of the information in the above article is incorrect:

Caroline's three granddaughters, June, Carol and Irene (and two of their husbands, Barry and Colin) and her two grandsons, Robert and Richard were also present at her birthday celebrations. Her daughters Helen and Caroline were residing at Merrylands, not Guildford. Caroline had met all her grandchildren previously, the four eldest were infact born in Scotland. She had not however met any of her great grandchildren prior to migrating to Australia.

The following telegram was received from the Queen of England, Elizabeth R.:

I am very pleased to hear that you are celebrating your one hundredth birthday. I send you many congratulations on this happy occasion and my good wishes for an enjoyable day. Elizabeth R.

Caroline only lived another month and died of bronchopneumonia. She was cremated at Rookwood. 2

Alexander and Caroline had the following children:

74 i. Elizabeth Garrett McDOUGALL (right)

75 ii. Helen Forrest McDOUGALL (left)

76 iii. Caroline McDOUGALL

 

 

59. George G. McDOUGALL. Son of George Graeme McDOUGALL & Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY.

He married Jessie. They had the following children:

77 i. Clara McDOUGALL

78 ii. George McDOUGALL

79 iii. Ena McDOUGALL

60. John McDOUGALL. Son of George Graeme McDOUGALL & Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY. Died Circa 1917 in Dardenelles, FRANCE.

It is said that John died in France during WWI. 25

61. Helen Forest McDOUGALL. Daughter of George Graeme McDOUGALL & Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY. Born 1890 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 56.

She married James McGILL. They had the following children:

80 i. Christina McGILL

62. James McDOUGALL. Son of George Graeme McDOUGALL & Martha Orr Campbell MURRAY. Born Circa 1896. Died Jan 1897 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 5. Buried 7 Jan 1897 in Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 5.

James died at 8 months of age 5 months after his mother died. They are buried together in Lair No. 616 at Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow 5 .

63. James McDOWALL. Son of Archibald McDOWALL & Janet. Born Circa 1874 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

64. Mary McDOWALL. Daughter of Archibald McDOWALL & Janet. Born Circa 1876 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

65. Elizabeth McDOWALL. Daughter of Archibald McDOWALL & Janet. Born Circa 1880 in Girvan, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 20.

66. Maggie McDOWALL. Daughter of John McDOWALL & Margaret. Born Circa 1876.

67. James McDOWALL. Daughter of John McDOWALL & Margaret. Born Circa 1880.

68. Elizabeth Collins McDOWALL. Daughter of James Wilson McDOWALL & Elizabeth GARVEN. Born 15 May 1882 in Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 62. Died 21 Oct 1961.

69. Jane Yearl McDOWALL. Daughter of James Wilson McDOWALL & Elizabeth GARVEN. Born 3 Jan 1886 in Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 62. Died 10 Nov 1961.

70. Margaret Smellie McDOWALL. Daughter of James Wilson McDOWALL & Elizabeth GARVEN. Born 3 Jan 1886 in Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 62. Died 11 Jan 1972.

71. Janet Garvan McDOWALL. Daughter of James Wilson McDOWALL & Elizabeth GARVEN. Born 1 Apr 1888 in Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 62. Died 9 Jan 1972 in Woodstock, Ontario, CANADA 62.

72. May McDOWALL. Daughter of James Wilson McDOWALL & Elizabeth GARVEN. Born 31 May 1892 in Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 62. Died 30 Mar 1899.

73. James McDOWALL. Son of James Wilson McDOWALL & Elizabeth GARVEN. Born 10 Jan 1895 in Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND 62. Died 7 Aug 1966.

 

FIFTH GENERATION

74. Elizabeth Garrett McDOUGALL. Daughter of Alexander Murray McDOUGALL & Caroline Anstey GARRETT. Born Oct 1913 in Stevenston, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND. Died 9 Sep 1919. Buried 12 Sep 1919 in Lambhill Cemetery, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND. Known As Wee Cissie.

Cissie died shortly before her 6th birthday of diphtheria. She is buried in Lair No. 616 at Lambhill Cemetery along with her grandparents, Martha and George and several others. 42

The following poem was printed on a memorial card:

One leaf is lost, one bud is shed,

One flower less sees the sun,

A pulse has paused, a soul has fled,

A little life has run.

The flower that faded here below

Now blooms a flower above,

The star that set at early dawn

Now shines in realms of love.

Sweet is her memory, dear to our heart,

Our love and her memory never shall part;

We know that the years, be they many or few,

Are years of remembrance, dear Cissie, of you.

 

75. Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Daughter of Alexander Murray McDOUGALL & Caroline Anstey GARRETT. Born 6 Jul 1915 in Stevenston, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 1. Died 3 May 1997 in Westmead, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Buried 8 May 1997 in Rookwood Crematorium, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Occupation Drapery Saleswoman 3, Explosives Worker (During WWII). Known As Nellie.

Helen was born at 8:20 in the morning at the "The Folly" in Stevenston, Ayrshire, the second child of Alexander and Caroline McDougall. The family later lived at 117 McAslin St, Glasgow for many years.

She married Robert Conway MARTIN, son of James MARTIN & Margaret Jane CONWAY, 24 Dec 1938 in Glasgow, SCOTLAND 3. Born 10 May 1914 in Stevenston, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND. Died 12 May 1977 in Merrylands, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2. Buried 16 May 1977 in Rookwood Crematorium, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2. Occupation Explosives Worker 3, Ironworker 2.

Helen was 24 years old when she married Bob on Christmas Eve at the Registry in Glasgow in 1938. The witnesses to their marriage were Rob's brother, William and Helen's sister, Caroline.

Following their marriage, Robert and Helen lived with Robert's family at "Seaview" in Stevenston until the family moved to Kilwinning Rd in the 1940's and later Robert and Helen had their own home at 6 Ashgrove Ave, Stevenston.

Helen and Robert had the following children:

81 i. June MARTIN (right)

82 ii. Caroline MARTIN (left)

83 iii. Irene MARTIN

84 iv. Robert MARTIN

85 v. Richard MARTIN

Robert migrated to Australia late in 1950 and bought a house and sent for Helen and the children. However, as Helen was expecting their son Robert, they had to wait until after his birth before sailing in 1951 on board the "Ormandie" arriving in Sydney on 19 July.

Upon their arrival in Australia Robert and Helen lived at 219 Elizabeth St, Zetland, Sydney. They rented rooms out to another family whom they had met on the voyage out to Australia. Later when Robert's brother Jim migrated he and his family also lived with Robert and Helen.

After several years in Australia, Helen and the children returned to Scotland in 1955 on the "Seven Seas". Robert followed shortly after staying to sell the family home. Whist back in Scotland, they lived with Helen's mother and aunt, at Kirkgate in Saltcoats, Ayrshire.

However, upon returning to Scotland, they decided to make their home permanently in Australia and returned in the same year. Robert and June travelled a few months earlier on the "Strathnaver" and Helen, Carol, Irene and Bob on the "Strathaird".

When the family returned to Australia in 1955 they lived at 15 Lillian St, Berala where their daughter Carol met her future husband, Colin Hails whose family also resided at Berala.

Robert travelled extensively, both prior to and after his marriage. He was involved with the International Brigade during the Spanish Civil War during the 1930's and was taken prisoner after the ship on which he was travelling was sunk.

The following appeared in the Glasgow newspaper "Evening News" dated 5 August, 1937:

BELLSHILL GIRL IN SPAIN - REPORTED RELEASE FROM PRISON

A report announcing the release of Ethel McDonald, a Bellshill woman, said to have been imprisoned in Barcelona, was received by her parents, Mr and Mrs McDonald, last night.

The story of Miss McDonald's release was given by Robert Martin, of Glencairn Street, Stevenston, Ayrshire, who out to join the International Brigade on May 30.

The ship on which martin crossed to Spain is said to have been torpedoed, and he himself taken to Barcelona and imprisoned there.

According to Martin, Miss McDonald was kept in prison for four days, and then released.

Robert and Helen lost all their money in a land swindle in 1957. In 1958 they moved to 479a Housing Settlement, Riverwood prior to purchasing their own home at 19 Lamb Cres, Merrylands in 1962.

Helen returned to Scotland in 1963 for a holiday. She travelled with her son Richard, via the USA where she met up her sister, Caroline, who travelled to Scotland with her. Her husband, Robert upon her return wrote the following poem:

Bonnie Nellie's coming back

She'll soon by on the joyful track

Bound for Australia's sunny strands

To 19 Lamb Crescent, Merrylands

She'll sail across to old Biscay Bay

And down the Med to Napoli

Back to Egypt's mystic shore

Where Nellie's walked the streets before

She'll see the rocks of Aden Grey

And then Colombo across the bay

But the fondest sight that Nell will see

Will be Old Rab at Circular Quay.

In the early 1970's Helen and Bob again visited Scotland and the US after her sister Caroline and her husband had retired to Florida.

Robert died of a heart attack at Merrylands Railway Station on his way to work just two days after his 63rd birthday and was cremated at Rookwood Crematorium. His daughter, June Bancroft wrote the following poem in memory of her father:

Some people come into this world

And one day quietly pass away

We wouldn't even know they're here

So insignificant are they.

My father he was different

A cheery noisy man

And if you didn't like him

He didn't give a dam.

He lived life to the fullest

He'd been most everywhere

Just name a foreign country

He's sure to have been there.

A rebel to society

Yet he loved his fellow man

To anyone who needed him

He'd lend a helping hand.

He dearly loved to argue

And he would always win

For no matter what we had to say

We couldn't out talk him.

He loved to sing and tell a joke

Speak to strangers in the street

I feel real sorry for

Those folks he didn't get to meet.

So I write this poem

And for what it's worth

I am proud to say, my father

Left his stamp upon this earth.

And if there is a heaven

I see him large as life and full of fun

Telling God and all the Angels

Just how things should be done.

Several months after her husband's death in 1977, Helen's Aunt Liz also passed away. As she and Helen's mother had lived together for many years, Helen went to Scotland and brought her mother back to live in Australia with her. Her sister, Caroline also settled in Australia and lived with Helen following the death of her husband in 1981, but returned to the United States each winter.

Helen died in May 1997 at Westmead Hospital after suffering with lymphoma for several months. She was cremated at Rookwood Garden Crematorium. 2

76. Caroline McDOUGALL. Daughter of Alexander Murray McDOUGALL & Caroline Anstey GARRETT. Born 11 Sep 1921 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND. Occupation Book Pager. Known As Carrie.

Caroline the youngest of Alexander and Caroline's children was born at 9:45pm at 117 Albert St, Glasgow, the informant, was her father. 1

She married Alexander CAMPBELL, son of John CAMPBELL & Mary McClelland GARRETT, 6 Sep 1947 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND. Born 5 Jun 1913 in Hamilton, SCOTLAND. Died 15 Feb 1981 in Port Charlotte, Florida, USA 2. Buried 17 Feb 1981 in Fort Myers Crematory, Florida, USA 2. Occupation Master Sergeant, US Army 2. Known As Alex.

Marriage of Alexander Campbell and Caroline McDougall, 1947

Left to right: James Stewart, Alexander Campbell, Caroline McDougall, Hannah Garrett

Alexander was born at 10 Woodside Walk, Hamilton and his birth was registered by his father. 1 However, the Campbell's migrated to the United States in the 1920's but kept in regular contact with Mary's family, in particular her sister, Caroline and her husband. Their daughters, Helen and Martha also corresponded.

Alexander joined the US Army and served during WWII, it was during his time in the UK that he met and then married his cousin Caroline at the Barony Church in Glasgow when she was 25 years of age. The witnesses to their marriage were her cousins, James Stewart and Hannah Garrett. 3

Following their marriage, Caroline and Alex were required to live where the army sent them, and this included some time in Germany and Japan, although they ultimately settled in Chicago, Illinios where Alex's family lived.

Upon their retirement, they moved to Florida. When Alex died in 1981, Caroline joined her sister and mother in Australia and migrated although she did return to the US every year. When her sister, Helen died in 1987, she returned to the US on a permanent basis and is now living with her cousin, Martha Niskach, and niece Carol Roote in Burbank, Illinios.

Alexander was 67 years old when he died at Fawcett Memorial Hospital of Cardiopulmonary due to Acute Myocardial infacktion. 2

The following was published in "The Sarasota Herald Tribune" on Feb 16, 1981:

Alexander Campbell, 67 318 Freemont St, North Port, died Sunday (Feb 15, 1981) at Fawcett Hospital, Port Charlotte.

He was born in Scotland and came to the area from Des Plains, Ill, in 1969.

He was a Master Seargant in the US Army, serving 20 years; was a member of the Evans Masonic Lodge 524 F&AM in Evanston, Ill.

He leaves his wife, Caroline, or North Port; two sisters, Mrs. Martha Niskach of North Lake, Ill., and Mrs. Jean Baker of Chicago, Ill.

Memorial services will be held Tuesday at 1pm at the Farley Funeral Home, North Port Chapel, with the Rev. Robert Thomas officiating.

Memorial donations may be made to the American Heart Association Suncoast Chapter, PO Box 3341, Sarasota.

 77. Clara McDOUGALL. Daughter of George G. McDOUGALL & Jessie.

78. George McDOUGALL. Son of George G. McDOUGALL & Jessie.

79. Ena McDOUGALL. Daughter of George G. McDOUGALL & Jessie.

80. Christina McGILL. Daughter of James McGILL & Helen Forest McDOUGALL.

She married William TURNER.

 

SIXTH GENERATION

81. June MARTIN. Daughter of Robert Conway MARTIN & Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Born Private.

She married Barry Keith BANCROFT. They had the following children:

86 i. Wendy Helen BANCROFT

87 ii. Julie Ann BANCROFT

88 iii. Penelope Jane BANCROFT

82. Caroline MARTIN. Daughter of Robert Conway MARTIN & Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Born 2 Apr 1941 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND 1. Occupation Retired Shop Assistant, Food For Less. Known As Carol.

Caroline was born at 5:15am in the Maternity Home in Kilwinning. At the time, her parents were residing with her paternal grandparents, at Seaview in Glencairn St, Stevenston. The informant was her father, Robert. 1

Migrated to Australia in 1951 with family on board the "Ormandie". Returned to Scotland in 1955 on the "Seven Seas", returning to Australia in the same year on the "Strathaird".

She married Colin Frederick HAILS, son of Alfred William HAILS & Esther Rose Lillian RAKE, 14 Jan 1961 in Bankstown, NSW, AUSTRALIA 3. Born 24 Dec 1939 in Merrylands, NSW, AUSTRALIA 1. Christen in Baptist Church, South Granville, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Occupation Senior Technical Officer, Telstra, Previously Motor Mechanic. Known As Col. Religion Baptist.

Colin was born on Christmas Eve in the family home at 11 Baker St, Merrylands. The witnesses were Dr. Stanton and Nurse Fish. His father was the informant of his birth. 1

In 1946 his mother purchased a home at 2 Third Avenue, Berala where he lived until 1963.

Carol and Colin were married at the War Memorial Presbyterian Church at Bankstown. At the time Colin was living at Berala and Carol at Riverwood. The witnesses to their marriage were Colin's brother, Trevor, and Carol's sister, June Bancroft. 3

In 1963, Colin and Carol purchased their first home at 149 Smithfield Rd, Smithfield. They lived in the house for many years, but decided to sell once it was known that their street was to become a major four-lane road. They sold their house in 1987 and purchased a property at 4 Bismark Rd, Northmead where they still reside.

They had the following children:

89 i. Vicki Lee HAILS

90 ii. Joanne HAILS

83. Irene MARTIN. Daughter of Robert Conway MARTIN & Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Born Private.

She married John THOMPSON and they had the following children:

91 i. Mark Anthony THOMPSON

92 ii. Hayley Greer THOMPSON

84. Robert MARTIN. Son of Robert Conway MARTIN & Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Born Private.

85. Richard MARTIN. Son of Robert Conway MARTIN & Helen Forrest McDOUGALL. Born Private.

 

SEVENTH GENERATION

86. Wendy Helen BANCROFT. Daughter of Barry Keith BANCROFT & June MARTIN. Born Private.

She married John PANEK. They had the following children:

i. Mathew John PANEK

ii. Lauren Bethany Ellen PANEK

87. Julie Ann BANCROFT. Daughter of Barry Keith BANCROFT & June MARTIN. Born Private.

She married Gregory FAHEY. They had the following children:

i. Glenn Christopher FAHEY

ii. Kirsty FAHEY

88. Penelope Jane BANCROFT. Daughter of Barry Keith BANCROFT & June MARTIN. Born Private.

89. Vicki Lee HAILS. Daughter of Colin Frederick HAILS & Caroline MARTIN. Born 6 May 1962 in Bankstown, NSW, AUSTRALIA 1. Occupation IT Training Manager, Dept. of Community Services.

Vicki was born at Bankstown District Hospital. The witness to her birth was Sister Courney. The informant was her mother, Caroline. 1

90. Joanne HAILS. Daughter of Colin Frederick HAILS & Caroline MARTIN. Born 15 Oct 1965 in Auburn, NSW, AUSTRALIA1. Occupation Mother/Wife - Previously Clerk, Waterboard. Known As Jo.

Joanne was born at Auburn District Hospital. The witnesses were Dr. Alexander, Sister Tupper and Nurse Berry. Her mother, Caroline was the informant. 1

She married Mark Richard KALEBIC, son of Nick KALEBIC & Margaret PEACOCK, 17 Jan 1987 in Croydon, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Born 25 Jun 1964 in Paddington, NSW, AUSTRALIA. Occupation Engineer.

They had the following children:

i. Bronte Lee KALEBIC

ii. Georgia Paige KALEBIC

91. Mark Anthony THOMPSON. Son of John THOMPSON & Irene MARTIN. Born Private.

He married Jennifer HARDNER.

i. Freya Helen THOMPSON

92. Hayley Greer THOMPSON. Daughter of John THOMPSON & Irene MARTIN. Born Private.

She married Colin Michael JACKSON.

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