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LAYOUT OF THE PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY PRE-1940



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The above map is an adaptation by Greg Krenzelok and based on two c.1941 maps of the layout of the Presidio of Monterey, Ca. as it was as a cavalry post and man by the 11th Cavalry, horse mounted and the 76th Field Artillery a horse-drawn unit. This will be a starting point in understanding what it was like in the early years of the Presidio. In the future we will be making corrections as we learn more, but for now I feel this is very accurate. Much of the information is based on DLIFLC & POM Archives material and two personal interviews with 11th Cavalry troopers who were stationed at the presidio. Andy Andreasen (passed away Oct. 5. 2012) and was stationed here 1934 to 1937 in headquarters troop and Joe Santone (passed away Aug. 11, 2011) stationed at the presidio from 1937 to 1940 in “A” troop.

Note: Please remember that we are using the circa 1941's street names and building numbers. Many of the names of streets are different today and the building numbering system is almost completely different. In my research of the POM buildings it has been challenging to understand the different building numbers that so many of the older buildings have had over the Presidio's long history. In many cases I have found three different building numbers for a building making research even more complicated. When buildings were salvaged it was common for a new or other building to received an old building number. This is just one example of the challenge of maintaining a Post building numbering system when dealing with such a long history and the building of the Language School. It is agreed that the Presidio has had at least two complete change of building numbers. I also believe that in the late 1920s and 1930s the Presidio demolished many old buildings including the 1903 period stables in upper area of the Presidio where the Veterinary buildings were located. I believe new stables were built in this area along with the new C.M.T.C. camp and it's buildings. Also the new 11th Cavalry stables were constructed on the Lower Presidio in 1931 for Troops A, B, E. and F. There was also several beautification projects of the Presidio at this time including Soldier Field. All these building changes could have created a need for a change in building numbers. Many of the building sheets in the archives show these building changes. I believe there could have been more.


THE HISTORICAL BUILDINGS OF THE PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY


List of Historic Presidio of Monterey building numbers and common/current building numbers. Date of list is unknown possibly c1980's. Source: DLIFLC & POM Archives


List of Historic Presidio of Monterey building numbers and common/current building numbers. Date of list is unknown possibly c1980's. Source: DLIFLC & POM Archives

In 2012 I started researching the building records located at the DLIFLC & POM Archives. It has been fascinating going through these records that date back to 1903 when the historical structures of the Presidio of Monterey as we know it today started construction. The Presidio has seen many changes of buildings and it is quite challenging to understand the different building numbering systems that some of these buildings have gone through over the years. It is like going through a treasure box never knowing what you will find. This research would not have been possible without the access assistance of Mr. Cameron Binkley, Deputy Command Historian. – Greg Krenzelok

BUILDING FORMS FOUND IN THE DLIFLC & POM ARCHIVES IN THIS RESEARCH:
a.The earliest building forms I have found at the archives do not have any official form number printed on the sheet as later forms have.

b. Q.M.C. Form No. 173A - Revised Nov. 30, 1921 (Authorized Nov. 15, 1913). The form number are printed on these forms.

c. Q. M. C. Form No. 117 (Old No. 173 A) - Revised Aug. 21 1924. The form number are printed on these forms.

d. Q. M. C. Form No. 117 (Old No. 173 A) - Revised June 28, 1939. The form number are printed on these forms.

Note: Original building forms consist of a front and back. Sometimes there is only copies of the original forms and usually the back page is missing.



Presidio of Monterey 2006/2012 map with the current street and building numbering system. Note: For security reasons some buildings and numbers have been omitted.


FLAG STAFF PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY 1903 - Building Nos. 183 on above layout map.
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Flag Staff Presidio of Monterey 1903


BAND STAND - The Band Stand is not located on the above map but it is east of Soldier Field.
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Band Stand Presidio of Monterey


POST HEADQUARTERS PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY - Building number 182 on the above layout map.
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Post Headquarters Presidio of Monterey


OFFICERS CLUB (MESS) PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY 1920's/1930's - Building number 184 on the above layout map.
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Officers Club (Mess) Presidio of Monterey 1920's/1930's


OFFICERS QUARTERS PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY 1920's/1930's - Look for the officers quarters area on above layout map.
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Officers Quarters Presidio of Monterey 1920's/1930's


NCO's QUARTERS PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY
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NCO's Quarters Presidio of Monterey


ASSEMBLY HALL (THEATRE) PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY - Building number 50 on the above layout map
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Assembly Hall (Theatre) Presidio of Monterey


POST STATION HOSPITAL PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY PRE-1940s – Building No. 113 on above layout map.
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Post Station Hospital Presidio of Monterey Pre-1940s


GRANARY BUILDING (ANIMAL FEED) PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY PRE-1940s – Building No. 93 on above layout map.
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Granary building (animal feed) Presidio of Monterey Pre-1940s


BARRACKS ON THE HILL PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY PRE-1940 - Building numbers 75, 77, 79, and 81 on the above layout map.
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Barracks on the Hill Presidio of Monterey Pre-1940


STABLE BUILDINGS ON THE HILL PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY PRE-1940
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Stable Buildings on the Hill Presidio of Monterey Pre-1940


VETERINARY BUILDINGS - Building Nos. 276 and 277 on above layout map.
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Veterinary Building at the Presidio


HISTORIC POST CEMETERY PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY - Look for Post Cemetery on above layout map.
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Historic Post Cemetery Presidio of Monterey


UPPER PRESIDIO PARADE GROUNDS (Francis Moore drill field)
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Upper Presidio Parade Grounds


ORDINANCE BUILDINGS PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY PRE-1940 – These buildings are not on the above layout map.
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Ordinance Buildings Presidio of Monterey Pre-1940


FINANCE, POST OFFICE, PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY PRE-1940 - Look for building no. 17 on the above layout map. (soldier field area)
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Finance, Post Office, Presidio of Monterey Pre-1940


POST GUARDHOUSE PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY PRE-1940 - Look for building no. 8 on the above layout map.
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Post Guardhouse Presidio of Monterey Pre-1940


POST EXCHANGE/GYMNASIUM BUILDING NO. 106 PRE-1940 - Look for building no. 106 on the above layout map
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Post Exchange/ Gymnasium Building No. 106 Pre-1940


RECREATION HALL PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY PRE-1940 - Look for Recreation Hall, building no. 174 on the above layout map.
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Recreation Hall Presidio of Monterey Pre-1940


11TH CAVALRY STABLES LOWER PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY
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Cavalry Stables Lower Presidio of Monterey


76TH ARTILLERY STABLES LOWER PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY
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76th Artillery Stables Lower Presidio of Monterey


FORAGE WAREHOUSE PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY PRE-1940 - Look for Building Nos. 147 on above layout map. (Lower Presidio area)
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Forage Warehouse Presidio of Monterey


NOTE: We have pulled the building sheets at the POM Archives on the buildings we have laid out on the Presidio of Monterey 1936 map that we have created. Including are the 11th Cavalry and 76th Field Artillery stables located on the lower Presidio, barracks on Soldier Field north and south and the other important buildings we are trying to cover. This has been a large research project and we have started to post the building sheets online. To my knowledge you will be seeing these images for the first time publicly. Also to our knowledge no one has attempted to lay out the key buildings when the Presidio of Monterey was a cavalry post stationed by the 11th Cavalry mounted and the 76th Field Artillery horse-drawn. We are the first to our knowledge in locating the post veterinary hospital in recent memory. Since I started my Monterey "Horse Soldier" research in 2008 I have never found a source that could remotely give me the layout of the stable buildings up "On the Hill" and the lower Presidio stables including the blacksmith shops. We now understand and know the layout as located in our Presidio of Monterey 1936 map. Research is still need to understand the stables and other support buildings up on the hill. In the future as time allows these additionally buildings sheets will be posted here. We are now searching the old Monterey Herald newspapers on microfilm from 1922 to 1945. This is giving us an incredible interesting account of the history of the Monterey area and the Presidio. This again is a very large research project and it will take a while to complete. In the future we will inject these articles in the appropriate areas of research for a unique prospective. - Greg Krenzelok, U.S. Army Veterinary Corps Historical Preservation Group


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Above 1936 aerial image of the Presidio of Monterey, Ca. as a cavalry post. A clear view of the Soldier Field, barracks, stables, and corrals. Look at the above layout map for reference. Source: DLIFLC & POM Archives

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Cropped section of the 1936 aerial image of the "Up on the Hill" area of the Presidio of Monterey, Ca., showing veterinary hospital, horseshoe school, barracks, stables and corrals. Not a very clear image due to zooming in but good enough to give you the layout. More research is needed to understand this area. Source: DLIFLC & POM Archives

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Cropped section of the 1936 aerial image of Soldier Field, Presidio of Monterey, Ca., shows the post headquarters, flagstaff, officer's club, post theater, station hospital, and barracks, north and south on Soldier Field. Source: DLIFLC & POM Archives

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Editors note: I have found an image in the DLIFLC & POM Archives show barracks 49 and 51 as "F" Troop and not "E" Troop barracks, but according to Pvt. Joe Santone this is where "E" Troop was when he was stationed at the Presidio from 1937 to 1940.

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Cropped section of the 1936 aerial image of the Lower Presidio of Monterey, Ca., showing the 76th Field Artillery and 11th Cavalry stables, gun sheds, and corrals. Source: DLIFLC & POM Archives

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Note: Building numbers and some street names have changed since the 1940's on the Presidio.

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Postcard circa 1920’s - 1930’s. This is a wonderful postcard of the Presidio of Monterey in what I believe is the 1930’s. The layout is the same as the 1936 aerial picture of the Presidio of Monterey. Shows the stables and corrals of the 11th Cavalry and the 76th Field Artillery, covers the stables and corrals up on the hill, the upper parade ground and C.M.T.C. camp along with all the barracks.

The postcard reads:
“Monterey is one of the most picturesque of American cities. It is known as the city of three flags, and the cradle of California’s history. The first state capital was located here, and today many of the historical landmarks still stand, and unfold the romance of early California and “Old Monterey”. Monterey fronts on beautiful Monterey Bay, where may be seen the fishing fleet at anchor, the industrial section of the city’s 10,000,000 fishing, canning and packing activity. Nearby, the Presidio is an Army Post of Field Artillery and Cavalry situated on the slopes overlooking Monterey Bay, and a background of matchless beauty”.



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11TH CAVALRY PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY, 1919 TO 1940
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11th Cavalry Presidio of Monterey, 1919 to 1940


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76TH FIELD ARTILLERY REGIMENT PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY, 1922 TO 1940
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76th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd Battalion


FORT ORD U.S. ARMY STATION VETERINARY HOSPITAL (HORSE) WW2
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Fort Ord U.S. Army Station Veterinary Hospital (Horse) WW2


THE ARMY VETERINARY SERVICE DURING THE GREAT WAR, WW1
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The Army Veterinary Service During the Great War, WW1


SERGEANT LEONARD MURPHY VETERINARY HOSPITAL NO. 18, A.E.F., WW1
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Sergeant Leonard Murphy Veterinary Hospital No. 18, A.E.F., WW1





U.S. ARMY VETERINARY CORPS HISTORICAL PRESERVATION GROUP

Motto: “Illic est Vires in Numerus” There is Strength in Numbers

“Working Hard to Preserve Our Country’s History wherever it is being lost”

U.S. Army Veterinary Corps Historical Preservation Group is a group of individuals that are concerned about the preservation of the History of the Veterinary Corps, Remount Service and Cavalry or wherever our country’s history is being lost in conjunction with our beloved “Horse and Mule”. There is no cost to join and membership is for life. We believe by uniting together in numbers we will be a more powerful force to be heard. Our membership list is private and only used to contact our members. Email us and become a member.

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