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Civil War General and President Ulysses S. Grant
It should be noted that the working hypothesis is that this group represents the "MacRobbie" Grants: a cadet branch of the Stewart Chiefs whose branching from the main line goes back to the 1300s.
Kit Background Description Claims or Quest
Kit N3983 is the descendant of Sylvanus Allen.
have over twenty DNA Allen cousins. Several have excellent paper back to
George Allen who came from England in 1635 settling at Sandwich, MA.
Kit 7215 is tied to John Francis Grant the
son of Effingham Howard Grant/Jane Harrison married Jan. 28, 1808 at St.
Marylebone, Saint Mary-St. Marylebone Road, London, England. John was born in
1821 and after marrying Maria Woodhams, in 1849
immigrated to NY/Michigan in 1855. His brothers/sisters stayed in London;
their names were James, Thomas, Jane Lydia, Charles, George, Mary (Alice?),
Susan and Robert. Effingham Howard Grant was born in Scotland, exactly where
unknown, about 1776. Perhaps he is the Effingham that is one of the last of
the Grants of Carron that are mentioned in Sir William Fraser's book, Chiefs
of Grant, written in 1883. The Effingham mentioned there left Edinburgh
(Abbey of Holyrood House) in 1790, apparently
penniless when his father, James Grant of Carron, died deeply in debt. Trying
to make a connection there or get any further information on EHG.
Of interest is that based on DNA evidence, it appears that I am a Gordon and not a Grant. Using the Y-DNA67 results, I am 2 or 3 steps away from four Gordons and nowhere is there a Grant lurking in the background. My goal now is to try and find one of the Antigua (Carron) Grant’s that immigrated from Scotland in the late 1700’s and compare their DNA with my DNA. If we are descended from the same Grant (Gordon), it would establish that I am from the offspring of Captain James Grant of Carron. Again based on the DNA the Gordon/Grant liaison occurred in the early 1700s or even in the 1600s if we consider the number of steps I am removed from the “true” Gordons.
Kit 10391 - My Mother was Naomi Grant who was the daughter of Neville Carroll Grant who lived on Wesser Creek in Swain County NC. I can trace my Grant line back to Wilkie Grant who married Mary Ann Totherow.
N17253 – descends from John H (Jack) Grant. Below is his lineage:
§ Self - Living
§ Father - Living
§ Grandfather: Oliver J Grant b. 5 Apr 1888 Alabama m. Alvina Sogaard abt. 1923, b. 10 Apr 1900 Kindred, ND
§ G-Grandfather: John W Grant b. 10 Jun 1847 or 1849 Columbus, GA, d. 27 Feb 1927 Alabama City, Etowah, AL m. Nancy Ann Malinda Jemima Guy 23 Dec 1875 Coosa Cty, AL, b. 19 May 1956 Alabama d. 24 Sep 1944 Harton, Blount Cty, AL
§ G-G-Grandfather: Samuel Manes Grant b. 13 Jan 1818 d. 1866 m. Dorcas Meadows b. 26 Nov 1824
§ G-G-G-Grandfather: John H (Jack) Grant m. Malinda Forrester
Kit 19996 traces back to "John Grant in Glenchernick" father of Peter Grant 'junior' a merchant who lived in Grantown (1774 - 1854). I would certainly be interested to hear from anyone (a) with a close DNA match and/or (b) who can show any link to this family - especially as it is unlikely that any records further back will show up. It would seem quite likely that John Grant's father was also Peter.
Kit 20976 can be
traced back to Carroll Alonso Patterson (1880 Swain Co., NC - 1922 Swain Co.,
NC) & Hattie T. Grant (1879-1953). Marvin R. Grant (b 1902 Swain
Co., NC - d 1992 Cobb Co., GA) was born out of wedlock to Carroll
Patterson. Marvin R. had a son Garland S. Grant (1922 Union Co., GA -
2000 Alamance Co., NC). His son, Marvin A. Grant ("Alan" b
1946 Cherokee Co., NC) was my father.
Kit 21340 - is tied to Joshua Grant of Shapleigh and Dearborn, Maine (born circa 1760). Results now confirm that this kit is tied to the line of Peter Grant (born 1631) who was exiled by Oliver Cromwell following the Battle of Dunbar.
Kit 21344 is tied to Thomas Grant of Maury/Marshall County, TN, who was born circa 1778. We do not know anything about him prior to 1815. Family stories suggest he was indentured for seven years and that was how he obtained passage to N. America. The stories suggest he came from Scotland and his wife, Sarah Glover, came from N. Ireland. However, these references could have pertained to their parents. I have exhausted all descendent lines except for one. I am currently seeking any descendents of Thomas' son, John Grant, who was born about 1805 and married Martha (Mary) Shannon, January 1, 1840 in Marshall County, TN. They moved with most of the Grant siblings to Pontotoc County, Mississippi in the early 1840's and then to Poinsett County, Arkansas prior to 1860. They had two sons, David and Jackson. If I can find a male descendent of either, perhaps I can obtain a lead on old Thomas' parents or origin. My lineage top down is a follows: Thomas Grant, James Davis Grant, James Polk Grant, Stephen Allen Grant, and to me.
Below is his lineage down to the kit#:
§ Kit 21344 is the son of Stephen Allen Grant, b 09 Apr 1903 Robertson County TX, d 30 Apr 1970 Houston Harris County TX, m Dorothy Estelle Dunlap b 19 Sep 1910 Trout LaSalle Parish LA, d 26 Jul 1991 Houston Harris County TX
§ Son of James Polk Grant b 05 Dec 1855 Robertson County TX, d 04 Mar 1919, m Carrie Elizabeth Perkins b 03 Nov 1865 Cuthbert (Randolph County GA, d 26 Aug 1935 Houston Harris County, TX
§ Son of James Davis Grant b 06 Jan 1838 Maury County TN, d 10 Jan 1892 Robertson County TN, m Sarah Elizabeth Talley b 19 Feb 1825 Tennessee, d 04 Jan 1865 Robertson County TX
§ Son of Thomas Grant b 1778 Scotland, who can only be traced back to 1815, in a Maury County Court TN document.; d 1838 Marshall County TN, m Sarah Glover b 1784 Northern Ireland, d 07 Jan 1860 Robertson County, TN
§ Greenwood Childs Grant - born 1813 in Dearborn, Somerset County, Maine - death 1893 in Newton, Harvey County, Kansas
§ Samuel Grant - born 1784 in NH/Maine - death ca 1869 in Washington County, Ohio
§ Joshua Grant - born ca 1760-1765 - death 1840 in Dearborn, Somerset County, Maine
Kit 21365 is tied to William Grant, born 1642/1643, in St. Nicholas at Wade on the Isle of Thanet, Kent, England (near Canterbury). Father of William Grant is John Grant, born about 1610. Birthdates, marriages, and other records in IGI coincide with Grants living in the same region back to early 16th century and into the 15th century. Probable ties to the family of a Henry Grant and son Laurence Grant in the Eyethorne region about 1510, and 1540 respectively. The DNA signature of this line has a strong Scandinavian influence from Western and Northern Norway with no exact matches in the FTDNA database and the closest matches being in Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Isle of Man, Shetland Islands and Scotland and derives from a Central Asian population near the Siberian Altai region. It is believed at this time that this line, of haplogroup R1a1, belongs to the original Norse line of the Grants. Kit owner is especially interested in any participants who can document their line from either Matthew Grant (Windsor, Connecticut and ancestor of Ulysses S. Grant) and/or Ulysses S. Grant.
Kit 21401 is tied to Stephen Grant of Maine (born circa 1750). Results now confirm that this kit is tied to the line of Peter Grant (born 1631) who was exiled by Oliver Cromwell following the Battle of Dunbar.
Kit 21840 is tied to William Grant who was born probably in about 1774, married Ann Maidstone Hillman on Nov 4, 1795, at Woodstock, York County, New Brunswick, Canada, and died on Mar 26, 1847, at Carleton County, New Brunswick, Canada.
Kit 22101 is the great-great-grandson of James Grant, born in Cromdale, Scotland, to a Donald Grant and Catherine in 1807. He died in Dassel, Meeker County, MN in 1896. He married twice. His first wife, Elizabeth McMillen, died in 1845. He married again, to Rebecca Fifer, in 1847. They had 9 children.
Kit 22822 is tied to William Grant (born about 1700) came to America from Scotland around 1720. Family history claims that he was fighting the English and was sent as a prisoner of war to the Colonies and then spent several years as an indentured servant in Maryland. Another branch of the family claims that he landed in Philadelphia with his wife, Margery Verner. His son, also William Grant, married Elizabeth Boone, Daniel Boones sister. They lived in Rowan County, North Carolina and then settled in Kentucky near Daniel Boone and his family. Many descendants eventually traveled west to Missouri and then on to California and Oregon to live.
Kit 23080 is tied to the Rev William Grant 1712-1775 minister at Kilmonivaig, Inverness-shire. He started life as a graduate M.A. from Kings College Aberdeen (1732) became schoolmaster at Alvie, Cromdale, and Kingussie - 1742 missionary to Fort Augustus -1750 minister at Kilmonivaig. This branch of the Grants was supposed to have been part of the First House of Ballindalloch.
Kit 23170 is related to Thomas Jefferson GRANT b.1812 Georgia, USA. m. Rachael Hancock. Children include: Charles Clement, Gilphen G, George Washington, Mary Frances, Sara Temprence, John A, Irene Alice, Philo Thornton, Wilburn C, Martha A, Henry, Thomas L B, Robert E Lee, Joel Jackson.
Kit 24708 provides a direct link into the line of the Chiefs of Grant through "the Good Sir James" (fl. 1800) and Sir Duncan Grant, 1st of Freuchie (fl 1450) to Andrew Stewart (fl 1320) who married the heiress Maud Grant, adopting the surname Grant (see Monymusk text etc. at www.clangrant.org.uk ). For the moment at least, our best guess is that Andrew was the eldest, but illegitimate, son of James Stewart the 5th High Steward.
Kit 25705 is tied to a branch of Grant's living in the North East of England with origins as Horse Breeders and farmers around the Dundalk area of County Louth in Ireland. Family stories have connected with President US Grant both in Ireland and his visit to the North East of England. This fired my interest in my Family origins. It appears we are directly related to the Stewart Chiefs of the Clan Grant possibly a branch of the Grants of Glenlochy related to Robert Grant the Ambassador and related to others within the project in Canada, Australia and the USA. There are a number of theories can explain how we got to Ireland. As supporters of Mary Queen of Scotts moving to escape persecution, Catholic relations during the Huntly rebellion moving from Scotland possibly with Rebel Grants of Carron, or moving to Ireland during King James I, Plantation of Ulster to gain land.
The earliest possible relative I have traced is:
Felix Grant born in 1718 and a Catholic could also mean that there are Jacobite links to our move to Ireland. However, it appears the family were established farmers renting a great deal of Land from the Crown by then, so any Jacobite link appears highly unlikely. I have several sources left to explore which hopefully will supply further links. Clearly, a great deal of historical research will need to be carried out. My Branch therefore seems to be a very interesting Scottish, Irish English mix with many cousins across the Atlantic.
(Editorial Note – Can you complete your lineage down to you?)
Kit # 25935 is a descendant of William Grant.
Kit 26043 My great-grandfather is Elijah T. Grant, born in Parrasboro, Cumberland, Nova Scotia in 1855 and died sometime before 1891 (as he was not in the 1891 census, but was in 1881 census). He married Margaret Parsons 9/3/1873 in Cumberland, Nova Scotia (she is the daughter of William parsons and Rebecca [unknown] Margaret Parsons was born 11/3/1856 in Cumberland County, Nova Scotia. They had 5 children: Margaret Mona Grant b. 12/14/1874, d. Port Greville, NSElla Grant, aka Nellie, b. 1877John William Grant, b. 11/11/1881, Port Greville, Cumberland County, Nova Scotia (John is my grandfather) m. 9/28/1906 to Lena Benjamin b. 6/10/1887 in Scott's Bay, King's County, Nova Scotia (daughter of George Benjamin and Elizabeth Scofield) Lena died 12/16/1917 in Kings County, Nova Scotia. Isaac B. Grant b. 1883, Port Greville. Leonard Grant, aka James, b. 1/28/1884 Wards Brook Cumberland Nova Scotia, d. 9/17/1976 Pugwash, Cumberland Nova Scotia.
(Editorial note – Can you complete your lineage all the way down to you?)
Kit 27245 is a
descendant of William Grant born 1847 in Evanton,
Ross-shire, Scotland, who emigrated to Dunedin, New
Zealand in 1879. The identity of his Grant father cannot yet be proven, but
it looks highly likely that his father was William McKenzie Grant (1827-1903,
a tailor in Elgin, Morayshire) who was the son of
Peter Grant (1784-1861, a grieve who moved from Glenurquhart
to Forres, Morayshire),
who was the son of Robert Grant (born about 1760) and his wife Elizabeth
Grant, who lived in 1784 at Oldton of
Kit 27247 is a descendant of William Grant (1809-1873), a tailor and clothier in Forres, Morayshire, Scotland who married Margaret McLeod. William's earliest known ancestor is Charles Grant "alias McRobie" (c1681 - 1758), who was a tenant farmer at Balnellan, Inveravon in Strathspey, Scotland and boatman of a ferry across the Spey/Avon rivers. Charles Grant had many descendants in the parishes of Inveravon and Knockando and who were usually known by the patronymic "alias McRobie". Research indicates that the McRobie Grants may have been tied to the Grants of Glenlochy in the parish of Abernethy and Kincardine, which is contiguous to Strathavon, Banffshire. 27247 is definitely an Inveravon Grant and descended from the same family as 39690.
Kit 30056 traces back through Lincolnshire Grants to James Grant [1741-1808]of Donington in Holland [Lincs]. His burial papers state he came from Perthshire. I have not been able to trace him back any further, despite going to the archives in Perth.
Kit 30498 ties to the Richard Grant ffound in Hanwell near Banbury Oxfordshire, in 1590. Descendents are scattered around Northamptonshire and Warshire. This below charts is correct from 1768. Many descendents disappeared.
Descendants of William GRANT born 1768.
1 William GRANT b: Bef. 01 May 1768 in Wroxton & Balscote Oxenshire England He died 08 April 1854 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England. He married Sarah (Hiorns) HIRONS b: 15 February 1769 in Chipping Norton Oxenshire England They married on 23 June 1789 in Mollington Oxfordshire England She died: 05 February 1839 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England. Their children are John, William George, Anthony and others,...
John GRANT b: 10 April 1796 in Upper Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: February 1877 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: February 1877 in Middleton Cheney orthamptonshire England He married Ann PAXTONb: Abt. 1796 in North Hinton in the Hedges Northamptonshire England. They married on: 18 April 1822. She died on: 12 December 1884
William GRANT b: 31 March 1799 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England. He died on 23 June 1885 in June 23, 1885 at Hamilton, Barton twp. Wentworth co. Ontario. He married Sophia BUCK on: 08 February 1820 in All Saints Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England. She was born on 13 January 1874 in Grimsby, Grimsby She died on: 13 January 1874 in Grimsby, Grimsby twp. Lincoln co. Ontario Canada. Their children George Charles and others
Charles GRANT b: 29 July 1827 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England. He married Catherine McMILLAN Their children are William and others
4 William GRANT b:1852 is great grandfather to Wayne’s GRANT KIT 32020
2 Anthony GRANT ( KIT 30498 – is Ian great great grandfather.)... He was b: 03 March 1802 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England. He died in d: 27 July 1861 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire. He married Mary WHITE b: April 1801 in Corkyard Middleton Cheney Northhamptonshire. o: 12 October 1820 in Middleton Cheney. She died: March 1882 in Middleton Cheney. Their children William Joseph George and others.
3 George GRANT b: 08 January 1826 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire. He died on 25 February 1902 in Geelong Victoria Australia. He married Sarah Eliza FURLONG b: Abt. 1833 in London England. They married on: 02 March 1850 in Geelong Victoria Australia She died on: 08 November 1906 in 158 Pitt St Redfern N.S.W. Australia Their son George
4 George Hyam GRANT b: 28 April 1851 in Highton Geelong Victoria Australia. He died on 03 December 1918 Colac Victoria Australia Their sons were Arthur and Ernest
5 Ernest John GRANT b: 19 April 1899 in Cundare Victoria Australia He died on: 17 October 1980 in Echuca Victoria Australia. He married Jeannie Anderson DAIR b: 10 May 1907 in Tretgwairton Madron Haemoor near Penzance Cornwall England. They married on: 27 April 1935 in Lilydale Victoria Australia. She died on 19 November 1997 in Echuca
6. Their sons Ian Kit 30498 and James.
Kit 30499 refers to the descendants of John Grant (c1700) in Inverlochie and his wife, Jean Forbes. Their place of origin is unknown. They had several children, all born in the Parish of Kirkmichael, Scotland. John came to America in the mid 1700s but it is unknown whether he stayed or returned to Scotland. One son was William Grant (1743) of Trois-Riviers, Quebec, merchant and senior trading partner of Grant, Campion and Co. of the Northwest Co. William married Marguerite Fafard dit Laframbois at Trois-Rivieres in 1787 and was the father of HBC Chief Trader of Ft. Hall, Richard Grant. Richard Grant married Marie Ann Breland and was the father of Johnny/John F. Grant. Johnny was a trader and rancher at Deer Lodge, Montana, and the originator of the Grant-Kohr's Ranch National Historic Site. He was also one of the original settlers of what is now the Carman area of Manitoba, Canada. Other families related or associated with these Grants were Laframbois, Dobie, Breland, Rowand, Grant, Kittson, Higgins, McLauchlin, Dempsey, Tendoy,LaVatta, Bruneau, McIver, Dease and many more. My interest lies in identifying the Scottish place of origin of this family and other Grant connections. I am particularly interested in the various Grants of the fur trade era and 'our' Grant relationship to them and other fur trading families between 1700 and 1900. Our direct line:
possibly Donald Grant in/of Inverlochie > John Grant in Inverochie (& Jean Forbes) > William Grant of Trois Rivieres (& Marguerite Fafard dit Laframboise) > HBC Chief Trader Richard Grant (& Marie Anne Breland) > Richard Stanislas Grant (& Emilie Levreau de Langie) > Joseph Richard Grant (& Laura Delores LaVatta) > John Nelson Grant (& Frances Norton) > Francis Nelson Grant (& Amanda Lavoie).
Kit 30840 My family is from Connecticut and Massachusets, my grandfather is Clarence E Grant b.5/23/1910, d. 12/11/96 who was a retired machinist at Draper Corp in Hopedale. He was married to Edna M Tiffany and had three brothers, Joseph H, William E, Aaron V and a sister Cecilia Winifred. I am definitely related to John Marsh of Salem (now Peabody) who was aboard the Mary & John 3/27/1633. Clarence’s’ parents were Joseph J Grant and Susan Marsh (b.9/1887 m. Milford). Susan Marsh related to my father that her mother was Eleanor Cain b. 5/1851 NB, m. 17/6/1870, d. 3/8 1925 Hopedale, who was a Native American from Petitcodiac NB. She married George-Albert Marsh b. 22/4/1848 W. Peabody, m. 17/6/1870, d. 4/8/14 Chelsea Soldiers Home. Their children were George-Walter Jr., Florence L, Mary A, Aaron C, Sidney F, Nellie, Susan, John A, Sara A. Both my grandparents visited Petitcodiac in the ‘70s and found Eleanor’s’ relatives’ graves. It is now Ft. Folly First Nations. On my grandfather Clarence E side of the family his father was John Grant of Edinborough. He married Bridget Bird of Ireland and they had Joseph J, Frank, Harry, Bill, Winifred, Nellie, and Emma. That is the last record of the Grant clan. I would appreciate any further information and contacts.
Kit 31534 traces back seven generations to a William Grant who was born either in Scotland or Virginia in the period between 1710 and 1720. All records of his birth were list either in the Revolution or Civil Wars unless there is some as yet unknown source. He married a Mary Morris but that is about all we know about her except that apparently she was born in that same 10 year period. William moved to North Carolina and died their in 1794. Mary died in 1800. The remaining members of my family, up to father, all lived in North Carolina. My family then includes Andrew, 1755-1825, a son of William and Mary. Andrew married a Martha MacKey or MacKay, no birth/death info about her. Then Charles B. Grant, 1790-1867, a son of Andrew and Martha. He married Mary "Polly" Morris, 1799-1880. Then their youngest son, Henry Burnett Grant, 1836-1882, is my great grandfather. He married Elizabeth C. Morrison, 1835-1924. Elizabeth was apparently born in Virginia and moved with her parents to North Carolina when she was a girl. Henry and Elizabeth had a large family and my grandfather, Vance Monroe Grant, 1865-1899, was one of the younger ones. Vance and his older brother Randall Vaney Grant, moved to Madison County, Arkansas, in the 1880s. Vance married Effie Mashburn in Madison County and they had four children, 3 boys and a girl. My father was the middle boy. Vance died of severe pneumonia in the late winter of 1899 while Effie carried their youngest boy. My father, Hobart McKinley Grant, 1896-1960, moved with his mother and her second husband, and the other two boys, to Kansas about 1912. My father was born on election day, Nov. 4, 1896, and was given the names of the new vice-president and president. Dad was a Methodist minister and went to college at Kansas Wesleyan University, then to Boston University School of Theology, where he met my mother, a Canadian registered nurse, Allie Elizabeth Cameron, 1903-1991. We have the Cameron linage back at least four generations in Scotland. Bottom line, we need the DNA results to prove, one way or another, that we are Scottish Grants rather than English.
Kit 31811Grandfather was Robert Grant- born about 1895 died 1983. My grandfather was born near the River Livet - not far from the village of Tomintoul, Aberdeenshire, just a few miles from the Glen Livet Distillery - in fact he worked there and did his first gardening training for the Smith family - the owners of the distillery. All of my Grant ancestors I believe were RC Church - although my GF gave up his connection to that kirk. The Grants were all shepherds and indentured farmers all coming as far as I can tell from Speyside.
Kit 32020 is the great-great grandson of Charles Grant born in 1832 in England & died in 1875 in Canada. He married Catherine McMillian in Ontario, Canada. She was born in 1836 in Scotland & died in Canada. They had approximately 11 children, the oldest being William Grant b.Sept 16, 1854 in Mimosa, Ontario, Canada (Wellington County) and died March 5, 1909 in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota. He married Sarah Ann Awrey June 30, 1875 in Mimosa. She was born 1855 in Bellwood, Canada and died 1888 in Hawley, Minnesota. He married Nora Adel Peck 1890 in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota. She was born Oct 12, 1875 in Center, IA and died November 1932 in Alhambra, Los Angeles, CA.
Connection with 30498. Children born William Grant b 1899 Middleton Chaney Northamptonshire England
1 William GRANT b: Bef. 01 May 1768 in Wroxton & Balscote Oxenshire England d: 08 April 1854 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: 08 April 1854 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.. +Sarah (Hiorns) HIRONS b: Bef. 15 February 1769 in Chipping Norton Oxenshire England m: 23 June 1789 in All Saints Chapelry Mollington Oxfordshire England d: 05 February 1839 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England m: 23 June 1789 in All Saints Chapelry Mollington Oxfordshire England d: 05 February 1839 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
Their. Children 2 Mary GRANT b: 19 September 1790 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: Bef. 1851 in Cencus May have gone left England d: Bef. 1851 in Cencus May have gone left England
........ +Thomas NEWMAN b: Bef. 25 October 1795 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.... 2 John GRANT b: 10 April 1796 in Upper Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: February 1877 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: February 1877 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
........ +Ann PAXTON b: Abt. 1796 in North Hinton in the Hedges Northamptonshire England. m: 18 April 1822 d: 12 December 1884 m: 18 April 1822 d: 12 December 1884
.... 2 William GRANT b: 31 March 1799 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: 23 June 1885 in June 23, 1885 at Hamilton, Barton twp. Wentworth co. Ontario d: 23 June 1885 in June 23, 1885 at Hamilton, Barton twp. Wentworth co. Ontario
........ +Sophia BUCK m: 08 February 1820 in All Saints Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: 13 January 1874 in Grimsby, Grimsby twp. Lincoln co. Ontario Canada m: 08 February 1820 in All Saints Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: 13 January 1874 in Grimsby, Grimsby twp. Lincoln co. Ontario Canada
.......... 3 George GRANT b: 30 December 1820 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.............. +Martha BARTON b: in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England m: 13 December 1842 d: in POSSIBLELY THIS George? m: 13 December 1842 d: in POSSIBLELY THIS George?
.......... 3 Elizabeth GRANT b: Abt. 1821 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: November 1822 d: November 1822
.......... 3  Sarah GRANT b: 01 December 1822 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.............. + Thomas NEWMAN b: 1820 m: 27 April 1841 in Middleton Cheney Northamptionshire England m: 27 April 1841 in Middleton Cheney Northamptionshire England
.......... 3 Charles GRANT b: 06 March 1825 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northammptonshire England d: August 1826 in Lower Cheney Northamptonshire England d: August 1826 in Lower Cheney Northamptonshire England
.......... 3 Charles GRANT b: 29 July 1827 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.............. +Catherine McMILLAN
................ 4 William GRANT b: 1852 is Wayne’s 32020 grandfather
................ 4 Ann GRANT b: 1857
................ 4 Neil GRANT b: 1862
................ 4 Sarah GRANT b: 1864
................ 4 Sophia GRANT b: 1859
................ 4 Jim GRANT
................ 4 Charles GRANT
................ 4 Thomas GRANT
................ 4 Nellie GRANT
................ 4 Kate GRANT
................ 4 Paul GRANT
.......... 3 Reuben GRANT b: 23 September 1829 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshiree England d: December 1830 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: December 1830 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.......... 3 Sarah (Elizabeth) GRANT b: 27 November 1831 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northhamptonshire England
2 Anthony GRANT (30498 – is Ian great great grandfather.)... He was b: 03 March 1802 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: 27 July 1861 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: 27 July 1861 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
........ +Mary WHITE b: April 1801 in Corkyard Middleton Cheney Northhamptonshire England m: 12 October 1820 in Middleton Cheney Northhamptonshire England d: March 1882 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England m: 12 October 1820 in Middleton Cheney Northhamptonshire England d: March 1882 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.......... 3 Ann GRANT b: 10 June 1821 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.............. +William HAYNES b: 1821 in Burdross Oxfordshire England m: 11 April 1945 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England m: 11 April 1945 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.......... 3 Joseph GRANT b: 12 November 1823 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.......... 3 Thomas GRANT b: 30 May 1824 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: December 1877 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: December 1877 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.............. +Martha FLOWER b: 09 December 1828 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England m: 14 June 1852 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England m: 14 June 1852 in Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England
.......... 3 George GRANT b: 08 January 1826 in Lower Middleton Cheney Northamptonshire England d: 25 February 1902 in Hospital Geelong Victoria Australia d: 25 February 1902 in Hospital Geelong Victoria Australia
.............. +Sarah Eliza FURLONG b: Abt. 1833 in London England m: 02 March 1850 in Wesleyan Church Geelong Victoria Australia d: 08 November 1906 in 158 Pitt St Redfern N.S.W. Australia m: 02 March 1850 in Wesleyan Church Geelong Victoria Australia d: 08 November 1906 in 158 Pitt St Redfern N.S.W. Australia
................ 4 George Hyam GRANT b: 28 April 1851 in Highton Geelong Victoria Australia d: 03 December 1918 in Dr Nance 's Private Hospital Colac Victoria Australia d: 03 December 1918 in Dr Nance 's Private Hospital Colac Victoria Australia
.................... +Mary Ann BAKER b: 31 July 1857 in Gheringhap Victoria Australia m: 09 May 1883 in Wesleyan Church Geelong Victoria Australia d: 30 May 1949 in 88 Shannon Av. Newton Geelong Victoria Australia m: 09 May 1883 in Wesleyan Church Geelong Victoria Australia d: 30 May 1949 in 88 Shannon Av. Newton Geelong Victoria Australia
...................... 5 Ernest John GRANT b: 19 April 1899 in Cundare Victoria Australia d: 17 October 1980 in Echuca Victoria Australia d: 17 October 1980 in Echuca Victoria Australia
.......................... +Jeannie Anderson DAIR b: 10 May 1907 in Tretgwairton Madron Haemoor near Penzance Cornwall England m: 27 April 1935 in Presbyterian Church Lilydale Victoria Australia d: 19 November 1997 in Echuca
(Editorial Note: This is all great information, but for my purposes needs to be condensed to a simple lineage from your oldest known ancestor down to you.)
Gleamed from a stack of notes and charts compiled by my mother some years ago, she communicated by mail and word of mouth with many people- but her notes and records are scatered and incomplete. The four Cuthberts lived in Canada and the U.S. and all had large families of 10 to 11 children. As I understand the dna results my roots are primarily Irish/Scottish and that would be understandable as my fathers line traces back to Scotland and my mother's family were all from Scotland, primarily from The Isle of Mull.
Kit 35068 Grandmother was GRACE PAULINE GRANT, born 9 Jan. 1904, in Clinton, Laurens Co. SC, died 2 Sep. 1960 in Greenville, SC. She had two brother's (Charles F. and Dwight M.) they were children of; BENJAMIN FRANKLIN GRANT, born 6 May 1882, in Laurens Co. SC, died 2 Feb. 1934 in Greenville, SC. He was a son of; GEORGE W. GRANT, born Dec. 1839, in what was known as 96 Dist. of upper SC. Today that area is Greenwood, Abbeville, and Laurens County, SC, he died in July 1889 in Pelzer, Anderson Co. SC. GEORGE W. GRANT was a son of ADDISON SAMUEL GRANT, born approx. 1815, died 14 Jan. 1848, Newberry Co. SC. Benjamin F. Grant, had five brothers and two sisters. I only have names for two brothers, (William, and John) and the two sisters, (Sallie and Bessie). George W. Grant had three brother's (William H., John S. and Andrew A.) and one sister (Mary/Mariah F.).
Kit 35990 is tied to Benoni Grant. Benoni was born in the late 1750's, supposedly in the state of Connecticut. I don't know when or where he was born or his parents. Benoni was an officer in the Revolutionary War. I suspect after the war he lived in New York State (possibly the area of Lake George). In 1793 he moved to the St. Armand area of Canada. He received 1200 acres in Stanstead, Canada in 1800. By 1820 he moved to High Gate, Vermont where he received a pension for his services in the Rev. War. He eventually moved to Lake George,New York. He died March 6, 1825. By his first wife (name unknown) he had 2 sons William and John. I'm a descendant of William and his wife Lois Burch. William was born c.1776 in New York State. Benoni married his second wife Catherine Deal August 30, 1795 in St. Armand, Canada. He had a large family with Catherine. I know a great deal about Benoni's descendants, but not his ancestors. Family history say he was related somehow to President Grant, but I've never been able to prove or disprove it. It could have been just wishful thinking on the part of my ancestors.
Kit 38400 I know who our great-grandfather Grant is (our father's grandfather), and have a reasonable amount of information about him. His name was Joseph Grant, he was born in 1827 and lived in Toms River, New Jersey most, if not all, of his life, He married Amanda Irons in 1850 - they had 9 children, 4 of whom lived to adulthood. (Their second surviving son, Andrew Jackson Grant was our father's biological father.) The problem we have is that we have conflicting information about who Joseph's father was. Information we have found leads us to believe he was born in New Jersey, but we've found two different names for him, which is the problem. So that's as far as I've gotten with our Grant line, and why I'm hoping the DNA testing might open a closed door for us.
Kit 39417 can be traced to his:
Kit 39690 is a descendant of John Grant (b 1803 at Belleheiglash, Inveravon, Banffshire, Scotland ), a brother of Kit 27247's ancestor, William Grant (1809-1873, a tailor and clothier in Forres, Morayshire, Scotland) and similarly descended from the McRobie Grants. John married his first cousin Christina Margach in 1833, emigrating to Oshawa, Ontario, Canada c1840, and died there in 1882. He has many Canadian descendants.
Kit 40927 is a descendant of William Grant (d 1795) through son Andrew (d ca 1825) through his son Charles B Grant, through his son Henry B Grant. All lived in Rutherford, NC, then Charles moved to Macon Co., NC, where Henry was born.
This Peter Grant line settled in the Berwick, Maine area following Peter's release from the Saugus Iron Works and remained there until Hobart Grant moved to Wisconsin in 1848. From there, the line moved to Michigan (mid to late 1800's), back to Wisconsin (1963), and recently to Florida.
I believe that we are the descendents of John Grant the son of Noah Grant spoken of in the book by Arthur Hastings Grant "The Grant Family" which includes President U.S. Grant. Jesse Root Grant had a brother John Grant. All of this would mean that my GGG Grandfather was the cousin of U.S. Grant.
Kit 42813 is a lineal descendant of Robert Grant (born about 1760) and his wife Elizabeth Grant, who lived in 1784 at Oldton of Sheuglie in Glenurquhart, Inverness-shire, Scotland. Robert was a soldier in the 42nd Regiment. He is likely a male line descendant of the cadet families of either Grant of Corrimony or perhaps Grant of Sheuglie, both in Glenurquhart. In 1790 he was living at Ballintrom (near Tomchrasky) in neighbouring Glenmoriston, but later children were born in Glenurquhart. Kit 42813 is a second cousin of Kit 90842
Kit 42947 I am descended from George Allen. George was born somewhere in England about 1630. He allegedly migrated to Virginia with William Waller about 1648. He married Mary Withers (also from England) about 1672 in Stafford County, Virginia and died in Stafford County in 1689. Because of the settlement and migration patterns of this Allen line, I suspect Scottish ancestry.
Leon Mills Grant had a son, George Mills Grant. We have not been able to identify John Grant and his descendants.
Kit 43245 - My father had told me that my great or great-great grandfather (I don't recall which) was a first cousin to Pres. U. S. Grant. I would really like to trace this back, but I do not have much of an idea how to go about it. Father had also said that the immigrant ancestor came from Port Glasgow, Scotland. His name and relationship I have forgotten. Also, my grandparents divorced and father and grandmother moved from Illinois to California, so I never met any of my other Grant relatives.
Kit 46469 is tied to John Grant, b. about 1760, living in Darlington District, SC, at least between 1800 and 1820. John’s sons include David (b. about 1789), Giles, and James (1799-1855), my second great-grandfather. About 1820, James married Nancy Anderson in SC. Nancy Anderson was the daughter of Jesse Anderson of Wayne County, NC, and later Darlington District. In the early 1820s James and Nancy and four of their children (Martha Ann, Susan Mozella, Mary Ann, and Cherry Ann) moved to GA, purchasing land in Jasper County and settling in Henry County sometime before 1840. By then, James’ brothers David and Giles had already moved to GA and later moved on to AL. James’ son William Miles Grant (1831-1912) married Elizabeth Permelia Young in Henry County in 1853, lived in DeKalb County, GA, at least between 1860 and 1870, and migrated to Ouachita Parish, LA, in the mid-1870s. William’s son Reuben Henry Grant (1861-1943), my grandfather, was born in Ouachita Parish and lived there until about 1900 and then moved with his wife and family to Eros, Jackson Parish, LA.
§ His son, my uncle, William John Grant born 3 June 1914 Victoria Australia gave the DNA sample. I am still plodding through this family’s history and am awaiting a disc of photographs of papers from the Drum Castle Archive in Drumoak, Aberdeen.
§ My grandfather was Joseph Grant born 9 September 1871 Maldon Victoria Australia. Son of Joseph b 1826
§ Joseph born 1826 immigrated to Australia in 1850’s, married and had 7 living children. Family lore said that we were descended from a “younger son of a Chief of the Clan” and DNA testing has shown this is possible story. I am as yet unable to find out where we exactly fit but I am researching a hypothesis which will probably take quite some time. I have a fairly comprehensive family tree built up of the families from 1773 and information on this family back to about 1670. I am happy to share my knowledge.
§ my great great grandfather George Grant , the 6th child born April 1783. George married Elizabeth Seivewright at Drumoak on 25 July 1812. George Grant “Servitor to the Lady of Drume “ died in 1639. Drumoak is right next door to Strachan so I bought the Will from Scotlands. There were 9 children, William, John, Thomas, Henery, Mary, David, Joseph, Hellen, and Jane.
John Grant married Mary Will 4 December 1773 at Strachan. There
were at least 15 children:
family knew that they were “descended from a younger son of the Chief of
Grant”. Adrian has said that it could have been a younger brother of
James Stewart from whom we are descended. If that is the case I think my
ancestors had very good memories for the legend!
Kit N64459 is connected to John Henry Grant. He was married to Margaret Grant (her maiden name). Margaret's grandfather was from Ireland and he married a Native Amercian. My grandparents liived in Cross Hill SC.
Kit N64459 is connected to John Henry Grant. He was married to Margaret Grant (her maiden name). Margaret's grandfather was from Ireland and he married a Native American. My grandparents lived in Cross Hill SC. [Please provide lineage chart.]
Kit 65580 reports his grandmother, Margaret Grant, told him that her grandfather was Irish and he was married to a Native American. He may have been a soldier in the Civil War. His grandfather is John Henry Grant. As you can see both their last names are Grant. Both of them are deceased now. I have few other details.
Kit 67540 William Grant c1764 -1840 is my earliest ancestor. Married to Christian McGregor he lived in Cromdale, Moray Scotland and was a miller at Castle Grant. Children are John b. 1785, Balnaclash, Cromdale: Janet b 1787 Cromdale : Robert Henry b 1798 Milltown Cromdale, Jean b 1799; David my gr gr grandfather1794; and lastly Mary 1797 David 1794-1868 m Janet McEwan and was an excise officer who moved around Scotland dying in Perth in 1868 His son Archibald my gr grandfather b Dunning Perthshire 1842 -1916 emigrated to New Zealand in 1862. My main object in taking part in this project is to see if l can connect with other Grants going back further. Cromdale records pre 1790 were lost in a fire and as Grants are thick on the ground there it has been impossible to link in with the right family.
Kit 76350 Our research takes us back to Alexander Grant of Grantsfield, Scotland. Born 1693, died April 28, 1776 Kinchirdie, Aberdeen Scotland. Married to Margaret Farquharson of Inverey Scotland, December 1739. Our line descends from son named James Ogilvie Grant born (baptised) June 10, 1746 at Grantsfield. Died August 17, 1801 in Dorchester England. James was a Colonel in the 49th Regiment. He was married to Isobel Ogilvie on December 3, 1775 in Parish of Keith, Rathven County, Banffshire. Had at least one son. James Grant. James was born in Blairmaude, Boyndie Co. Scotland c.1788. Christened April 11, 1788, Church of Scotland. Parish of Boyndie Banffshire. Married Eleanor Maria Ann Elliot at St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh Scotland March 27, 1825. Family emigrated to Sydney Australia (for health reasons) on the barque “Mary” in November 1839. James died in Campbelltown, Sydney Australia on April 19, 1840. Buried in Campbelltown cemetery. Eleanor, his wife remarried to Reverend William Walker on April 20, 1846 in Wesleyan Church Parramatta. Died June 30, 1872, Randwick, Sydney and is buried in St. Jude’s Anglican cemetery Randwick. We descend from their son Alexander Ogilvie Grant. Born Jedburgh, Roxburg Scotland, March 30, 1826. Married to Rosanna Amelia (Emma) Reid, April 21, 1851, West Maitland, NSW. Alexander remarried on September 16, 1881 in Bourke to Arabella (Bella) Battley. Alexander died May 12, 1891 and is buried in C. of E. cemetery Parramatta NSW. We descend from Alexander and Rosanna’s son Charles Edward Grant. Married Charlotte Jane (Jessie) Hancock. My grandfather was their son Cecil Lorraine Reidhaven Grant. Born March 18, 1890 in Barringun, Bourke NSW. A Chartered Accountant. Died April 20, 1963 Longueville, Sydney. Married Mabel Lillian (Lil) Champion on June 24, 1918 in Armidale NSW. Mabel was born January 26, 1894 Armidale NSW and died Janaury 29, 1985 in Taree NSW.
(Editorial Note – could you send me the lineage all the way to you?)
Kit 80123: b. 1938; in Port of Spain, Trinidad
Kit 82442 - is a descendant of Josiah Allen.
Not sure of the following but believe it to be true!!!
Kit 82582 is the 8th generation of Grants in New Brunswick Canada, who were shipped out of New York in October 1773 to Partown Canada, which is now Saint John. My Ancestor who first came here was a Widow and was addressed as Widow Grant on all documents we have found. Her husband served with the king's American Regiment and was a (Memorialist). Widow Grant had 5 sons: Peter, John, William, finley and Lawrence who all settled in New Brunswick Canada. Widow Grant went on to Marry again to Mr Henry Chronkite. We are still searching for Widow Grants husband who was reportedly killed at the end of the Revolutionary war in 1783. We do not know his name. We do think that he may have served under col. Atwood who too, settled in New Brunswick Canada. It appears that the records to my Paternal Ancestor may be in the archives in NYC unless they were destroys by the Patriots after the war. We are still searching and hope we could find some missing links with other people in the DNA project.
Kit 83161 is tied to Donald Grant born 1735 -1759 Married to Marjorie "May" Falconer married 1774 Children Alexander 1781 died 8 Oct 1862 in Tomnahurich Bridge Scotland ( was the start of my line) he married Ms Ann "Nanny" Mc Kinnon born Inverness Scotland married 2 Dec 1804 died 1855; Donald born 6 March 1775 in Dalcross Scotland : William born 5 Oct 1777 ; Ms Margory Grant born 10 Aug1791; Sister: Duncan Born 1795. William Grant was an Inverness man, who migrated to Stornoway, Scotland and settle in the area long before marrying Johanna Morison in 1906. In 1917, he founded the Stornoway Gazette. Three of their six sons became prominent figures in the newspaper world in the Highlands. Johanna was the youngest daughter of Roderick Morison, a retired ship's captain. Johanna had a brother by the same name as her dad, who became a minister of the Stornway High Church. William Grant died in 1932 at the age of 59.
My father, Duncan, was born in Clachan, North Uist - 9 Apr 1893. Married Isabella Duncan Jessiman in Capetown on 10 June 1929. His father was also Duncan, born in Duthil IV 20 Feb 1855. Married to Marion MacRea in Dornie Kintail 22 June 1880. They had five children two of whom settled in the USA another remained in Dornie, another who died at age 16, and my Dad who left the Scotland he loved and settled in Southern Rhodesia, doing a stint in Northern Rhodesia where his two sons were born. In 1938 he was transferred to Umtali, (now Mutare) where he dies in 1982, followed two months later by his wife two months later.I have tried to delve back into the history of the family and thought I had unearthed Duncan's family but it proved incorrect.
John Henry Grant, born in Frederick County, Maryland, February 19,1790, married August 7, 1817 to Susannah Johnson who was from Pennsylvania and born 1794 and died August 5, 1852. John Henry Grant died November 19,1853 in Pickaway County, Ohio. He was a private in the War of 1812, served with th first regiment under Captain William Key from Ross County, Ohio. John Henry Grant is buried at the John Graffis farm in Washington Township, Pickaway County, Ohio.
His children are:
John Henry Grant is my 3rd Great Grandfather and Samuel is my 2nd Great Grandfather.
I was told by a Darlene Ironmonger a few years ago that the only Grant left in Fredrick County Md 1790 was a William Grant. And she felt it was my John Henry Grant's father, but I have never heard from her again. And I have never been able to find anything else about him. I even e-mailed the USA Grant Clan researcher and have never heard from him either. And when I had the DNA test done they told me my Grant line was from the Lock Ness area of Glenmorisson area and they matched me to the Chief Stewart of Grant.
Kit 85599 is tied to William M. Grant born 1861 in Ohio . The son of Isaac and Lydia A. Grant also believe to be from Ohio. We do not know anything about him except he was married to Mary L. McDonald ( Nova Scotia) in Medfield, Massachusetts on Feb 27, 1889. They had three children their names were Dorothy, Clarence , and Ethel. He left them about 1898-- we have no idea where he went after. We would appreciate anyone with close DNA ties to respond.
Kit 90842 is a lineal descendant of Robert Grant (born about 1760) and his wife Elizabeth Grant, who lived in 1784 at Oldton of Sheuglie in Glenurquhart, Inverness-shire, Scotland. Robert was a soldier in the 42nd Regiment. He is likely a male line descendant of the cadet families of either Grant of Corrimony or perhaps Grant of Sheuglie, both in Glenurquhart. In 1790 he was living at Ballintrom (near Tomchrasky) in Glenmoriston, but later children were born in Glenurquhart. Kit 90842 is a second cousin of Kit 42813.
Kit 91779 is a descendant of William Grant, b. 1707, of King George County, VA. William was married to Margaret White. They had one son, James Grant. On his maternal side, Eduardo Henriquez, b. 1864, was from Analusia, Spain via Cuba.
Kit 92374 is tied to John Grant (born abt 1740) in Tomchaldon/Thomchalton croft in Tulloch. He married Janet Grant on the 16th Sept 1766. They had a son Gregor Grant born abt. 31 Jan 1766 (oops). This Gregor married Margaret Cameron, date unknown. They had a son Grigor Grant born 12th Jan 1786. At this stage the family were still residing at Tomchaldon. Grigor went on to marry Betsie Grant of Rybhoanbhar, but at some stage the family moved to Rynuan. He was also a Corporal in the 10th Militia. An area near Stranrue was named after him "Grigor’s Green" (Not known of now by the locals). By all accounts he was a bit of a lad! I think this move coincided with the croft at Thomchaldon burning down and or the marriage of his son Gregor (born 3rd March 1827 my GGG Grandfather ) to Janet Stewart of Rynuan in 1850. Gregor and Janet had a son Donald Grant (born 3rd March 1855 my GG Grandfather( 1 of 7 children)). The more I look into the circumstances of the Tulloch area the more I am convinced that Thomchaldon was perhaps a sub tenant croft on the Mains of Tulloch farm. More research underway in the Seafield Papers may resolve this. Donald then married Christina McLeod at Charlestown, Inverness. They had nine children. One of them Charles, my Grandfather, was born in Upper Kessock Street, Inverness. It would appear that the family moved around the Inverness/ Aviemore area. The oldest 2 children appear to have been born in Bonar, Balphadrig a suburb of Inverness, they then moved to Alvie where my grandfather was born, then they move back to Inverness. Still looking for information earlier than 1740.
Kit 93864 is tied to James Grant who married Isabella Cameron 9/9/1788. At the time of his marriage he was living at Mill of Tore (Balnain) in Glenurquhart west of Drumnadrochit. The DNA results show that James is decended from the Grants of Shewglie/Sheuglie but James' father is not known. Two possibilities are Alexander Grant (The Swordsman) descended from the second son of Robert Grant 2nd. of Sheuglie and Colonel Hugh Grant of Moy descended from the first son.
§ William Grant, b. 1721, location unknown. He was in Orange County, VA by 1750s, so he may have been born there. William died in 1795 in Rutherford, County, NC. Kit 97440's, his
(Editorial Note – the lineage breaks down with Icabod. Can you complete the lineage to you?)
Kit 101946 goes back to 1846 to Marlboro County, SC with Peter Grant who was married to Ann Eliza Chance. It is believed that Peter Grant, Jeremiah Grant and John Grant were all brothers but this is yet to be proven. No information has been found to date that takes us further back than Peter Grant and we have no history further back. We are interested in making a connection with other Grants that can add to our family history.
Kit 102542 goes back as far as !835, with the birth of Edward Grant of Co. Armagh Ireland, a farmer. He was born Nov 11, 1835 and died April 22, 1892 in Brookfield, MO. Buried in St Michaels Catholic Cemetery. He married Mary E. Grant, of Irish ancestry, born in Canada, July 1839. Listed in the 1910 census as being 69 yrs and a naturalized citizen. We do not know where in Canada they lived during this time. Further research is pending. Mary may be an McConnell, as Edward McConnell born in Co. Armagh Ireland, is buried in the same plot. He died in 1875 at age 90 years. Sons and Daughters born to this union, Emily Grant b. 1860 Canada, Margaret Grant b.1861 Canada, John Grant b 1863 Canada, Joseph Grant b.1865 Canada, (married Josie Grant, daughter Mary E. Grant b 1898); *Robert Grant b. 1866 Canada, (married Alma Grant b. 1873 in Illinois, daughters Lena. b. 1892 and Lilly b. 1894, son, Lewis b.1903, son, Vernon, b. 1906, son Chester, b 1908, daughter Gina, b. 1909 or 10); James Grant b 1868, Canada; Henry Grant b 1870, Brookfield Mo.; **Lawrence Grant, b. 1875 Brookfield Mo; (this was grandfather of our line) (married Grace Brewer Grant ((niece of General John J. Pershing)), b Mountain Grove,Mo); Frank Grant, b. 1878 Grantsville, Mo; Patrick Grant b. 1880, Brookfield Mo. d.1880 6 mo; Mary Catherine Grant b 1884, Brookfield Mo. *Robert Grant was living in Tulsa Ok in 1930, son Chester died in Tulsa, April 11, 1998, born July 16, 1907 or 08. **Sons of Lawrence were Clarence (Pat), b. 1909 (m. Florence, son Robert Lee and daughter Patricia Ann), Emery W. Grant (father of our line) sons, William E. Grant, Clarence R. Grant, daughter Judy Grant Small. Would love to have any information about the rest of this family.
Kit 112611 earliest known anscestor was John of Shettleston, Scotland, who had son, James (1828-1883), a potato merchant; son William, a blacksmith of Grafton Square, Glasgow; and son Robert, who emigrated to Australia My great-grandfather was also a James Grant, who sired 13 children. Four died in infancy, but a son, John, eventually emigrated to Canada in 1910. Sons William and James died in 1863. A later son, James (1872-1954), was a gents clothier and then Robert, (1877-1943) was a butcher, Thomas (!879-1951) was a wholesale grocer, and Andrew (1879 - ?) went to Canada. John, who went to Canada, and his wife, Helen Stewart, had six children. My grandfather was William Grant (1864-19380. And, my father was Archibald Montgomerie Grant (1900-1972). His brothers were William Montgomerie Grant (1903-1975) and James (Jim) Montomerie Grant (1910-1990), all of Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland. I am trying to find connections earlier than 1829 and where in Highlands of Scotland our line originated and its connection within Clan Grant.
Kit Muckleroy also has had a Family Finder done.
The only Grants on my database are spouses with no parents known. I have 8 and only 2 are linked. There are Mackelroys, Carnes, and Allens on our line. Felix and my mother were double first cousins. I don’t have a DNA for Allen, but Muckleroy and Carnes are both at FTDNA – both 67 tests. There is a Burrows test at FTDNA from a descendant of a brother of Catherine Burrows. The Carnes test is very close to Niall of the Nine Hostages.
I don’t know if this connects to 49247 – George Allen. This is from the book Allens of the Southern States by Miller and Miller.
This is under the heading of Mary Mead Allen born 1812. Among her family members was a William Crawford, Jr. who was a descendant of William Allen of STAFFORD County, Virginia Through his son, Joseph Allen of Stafford Co., VA through his son John Allen who married Ursula WITHERS.
If there is any interest I this, I can scan the page. This mentions Stafford and Withers so I thought it could connect. We have a Carter ancestor in Early Stafford County, Virginia. Mittie Carnes of 114696 this lineage.
The person from Attala Co., MS might have run into our Carnes who lived there at one time. The Carnes family moved from Hinds County, and Attala Co., to Texas.
(Editorial Note: Can you finish the tree down to you? I will not list them on any documents sent to general group.)
Kit #115576 is a descendant of Matthew Grant (1601-1681) is our earliest known ancestor and sailed to America from SW England circa 1631, arriving first in Dorchester, MA, but settling Windsor, CT, soon after. The line looks like this::
Kit 118388 indicates his oldest known descendant is John Grant in Roxby, Yorkshire, England on or about 1450 AD. His son was William Grant, born about 1485 in the same place. This information was researched under the direction of Heber J. Grant when he was President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I cannot vouch for its accuracy. I do have a couple of family rumors on why it stops there. It is said when he made it back this far he found an illegitimate son and stopped the research. Also, I am told that my line is not related to President U.S. Grant. I am told that the King of England gave one of my descendants a large portion of land. As a sign of respect for the king, his descendant took the surname of Grant to show he accepted the grant of land he was given.
Kit 120814 - My family, as I know it so far, is from N. and S. Carolina. I've verified my gggrandfather to be James S. Grant (b. 1862 or 1878) m. Nancy Prevatt (b. 1869 or 1881). I'm currently looking for James Grant, father to James S. Grant, m. Sarah Quick of S. Carolina. It's not much info, but hopefully it rings a bell for someone.
Kit 121522 is a descendants of John Grant (c1700) in Inverlochie and his wife, Jean Forbes. Their place of origin is unknown. They had several children, all born in the Parish of Kirkmichael, Scotland. John came to America in the mid 1700s but it is unknown whether he stayed or returned to Scotland. One son was William Grant (1743) of Trois-Riviers, Quebec, merchant and senior trading partner of Grant, Campion and Co. of the Northwest Co. William married Marguerite Fafard dit Laframbois at Trois-Rivieres in 1787 and was the father of HBC Chief Trader of Ft. Hall, Richard Grant. Richard Grant married Marie Ann Breland and was the father of Johnny/John F. Grant. Johnny was a trader and rancher at Deer Lodge, Montana, and the originator of the Grant-Kohr's Ranch National Historic Site. He was also one of the original settlers of what is now the Carman area of Manitoba, Canada. Other families related or associated with these Grants were Laframbois, Dobie, Breland, Rowand, Grant, Kittson, Higgins, McLauchlin, Dempsey, Tendoy,LaVatta, Bruneau, McIver, Dease and many more. My interest lies in identifying the Scottish place of origin of this family and other Grant connections.
Kit 123602 is believed to be a descendant of Christopher Grant, born 1608, location- England, not proven, to Watertown, Essex, Mass. where worked as a glazier on the first Harvard U. building. Parent may be John Grant of Roxbury, Yorkshire, England, born 1563 who had a son, Christopher.
Kit 126897 Kit 126897 is a direct descendant of the Grants of Sheuglie in Glenurquhart, Inverness-shire through Alexander Grant 4th of Sheuglie (taken prisoner after Culloden and died imprisoned at Tilbury) through his 4th son Patrick Grant 1st of Lochletter, Glenurquhart (died 1806), then through his son Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Grant HEICS 2nd of Lochletter (born 1753, died 1816), through his second son, William Grant of the 92nd Regiment (born 1796, in Calcutta India , died 1852). Look forward to a chat.
Kit 133216 is a seventh generation descendant of Alpin Grant, who left Scotland in September 1775 with a group of emigrants on the ship Glasgow bound for New York. They were prevented from entering the harbour by a British man-o’-war (“lest they join the disturbances ashore”) and were sent on to Boston where they were enlisted in a loyalist force called the Royal Highland Emigrants, or the 84th Regiment of Foot. Eventually he was stationed in to Nova Scotia and served there until they he was discharged in October 1783. He was subsequently given a grant of 500 acres of land in the Pictou area for his military service.
The OPR for Urquhart and Glenmoriston, indicates that Alpin Grant was born on 15 March 1740, that he had a sister Ann who married Alex Grant, Carnoch, who later lived in Drum Fadda, near Corrimony, and an elder brother, James Grant, who was married on 13 February 1755. (Alpin and his wife Margaret Grant were living in Drum Fadda when their second son, James, was born in 1773.) Alpin’s brother James came to Nova Scotia with his family on the ship Hector in 1773 and was a miller by trade. It is believed they had another brother, John Grant, who served with the 42nd Reg’t. (the Black Watch) during the American campaign. When he was discharged in Halifax in 1783, John gave Alpin the right to land that he had earned because of his military service.
The OPR gives their father’s name as John, or John Roy Grant, Meiklie, and the entry for James’s wedding includes a further name for John Roy, that of “MacAllanvain” or “son of Allan Bain”, or Allan the Fair. Meiklie is at the western end of Glen Urquhart and was part of the estate of Grant of Corrimony. In the 1770s John Roy Grant and his sons James and John had the rental of “an auchtenpart of land” in Garvault (in Strathspey) plus an “oxgate in the Black Ward” (about two miles east of Garvault) and the “improvement of Coire Seilech” (immediately adjacent to Garvault), for which they paid £92: 8 shillings in annual rent. These may or may not be Alpin Grant’s father and brothers, but there is a strong possibility that they are. The rental for 1774 no longer includes the names of James and John, James having left for Nova Scotia on the Hector the year before, and John likely having joined the 42nd.
Kit 133216 b.1934 in Port of Spain, Trinidad
138335 – Self Johnny R. Grant Born Anderson County, S. C. 2-9-1947
§ Father - Ralph A. Grant, Born Oconee County, S. C. 4-27-1914; Died Anderson County, S. C. 8-6-1985
§ Grandfather - Samuel Asa Grant Born Oconee County, S. C. 7-1894; Died Tampa, Florida
§ Great Grandfather - William Grant Born Oconee County, S. C. 3-15-1872; Died Oconee County, S. C. 5-21-1936;(husband of Anna Maria Grant, Daughter of Samuel Grant and Granddaughter of Asa Grant, son of William Grant)
§ Great Great Grandfather - Pressley Grant Born Oconee County, S, C. 11-21-1848 Died Oconee County, S. C. 1-31-1921
§ Great Great Great Great Grandfather - William Grant Born Oconee County, S. C.1-8-1893 Died Oconee County, S. C. 1860
§ Great Great Great Great Great Grandfather - William Grant Born Augusta County, Va. 8-3-1761 Died Oconee County, S. C.8-28-1853
§ Great Great Great Great Great Great Grandfather - William Grant Birth place unknown circa 1732 Died Greenville County, S. C. 12-13-1812
Must explain the following. My 6 X Gt Grandfather's estimated birth was arrived at between myself and Adrian Grant, way back in October 2010 when he phoned me ref a fairly close DNA match between myself and Michael Grant ,163789 , who as you know traces his Family History back to "Gregor" son of Patrick (McAlpine) Grant.
Adrian believes that my John Grant (estimated birth 1667) is possibly the younger brother of Patrick (McAlpine) Grant or another "Natural" brother John (possibly unknown). Which would in turn relate myself to the Rothiemurchus Cadet Line.
Having contacted Michael Kit # 163789 and with both of us (Mike in Feb 2010 and myself in Nov 2010) having written to "Jonnie Grant" (Rothiemurchus) in the hope of any information on his past relatives having moved down South in the mid 17th Century, neither of us have had any reply. (Very disappointing as SAE's were enclosed for replies, even if the answer was No ! ). We have to hope for that another avenue will have to be explored in the future as the general consensus is that "Jonnie Grant" will not be forthcoming with any information.
The explanations ref Chesterfield (Walton) above are that "William 1764 was the son of Michael Grant of Walton" but the Village of Walton did not have a Church for Parish BMD's till 1830, so they took place in Chesterfield Parish Church.( 2 Miles away).
Ref the 2nd Marriage in 1732 at Peak Forest, this was one of the "Foreign Marriages" which took place there, it was considered to be "The Gretna Green of Derbyshire" ie anyone (see File) could turn up between 8 AM and 12 AM and with the correct License Fee (which went straight into the incumbent's back pocket, very lucrative! ) as the Church had Peculiar Jurisdiction and Extra Parochial and Extra Episcopal use, No questions were asked, no residential Banns required, no ages given, no details of residence/districts etc. the only records are the Names of the Married couples. This Church was brought into line with an Act of Parliament in 1804.
To conclude, whilst fully accepting the reasoning of Adrian and his expertise of the Clan Grant's History and knowledge of DNA, my inclusion of John Grant (Estimate 1667) is considered by myself at the present time to be somewhat speculative and is based on the Family Search.Org (LDS) website which can be sometimes suspect and so requires further investigation. Therefore, I have only Paper Proof back to 5 X Gt Grandfather William Graunt (1687).
Kit 142073 - The original Grant ancestor that we know of fought at Culloden and was exiled to Jamaica in 1746. We know that a son accompanied him who was around the age of 10, (born 1736 approx.), too young to have fought. His lineage is:
Kit 145982 has little information about his family, but knows that his grandfather was Kenneth William Archibald Grant, b. in Banjoewangi (Indonesia) on November 6, 1894. His father is George William Grant, also b. in Indonesia (Surabaja), on October 21, 1920. Kit client was born in Jakarta (Indonesia) in 1952.
Kit 146881 b. Apr. 29, 1954, L’Abord-a-Plouffe, Quebec, Canada
147093 – my lineage:
I have nothing prior to that and was hoping that possibly someone in your group had information or links to Garrisons in the early 1800’s.
Elisha Grant of Lenoir, North Carolina. He is traced from Lenior to Knox Co. Kentucky and Ripley, Missouri. His sons were John Henry Grant (b 1822, d 1907), James Grant (b 1824, d 1850), Thaddeus Theopolus Grant (b 1827 d 1916), Elisha Grant (b 1827, d 1870), William Joseph Grant ( b 1829 d aft 1883), Buck Grant (b 1832, Lewis Grant (b 1836), John C Grant (b 1846) and Stephen Grant(b 1850 d 1899). The last four sons were from Elisha’s marriage to Nancy (last name Ukn) of North Carolina. Four YDNA tests have confirmed John Henry, Thaddeus Theopolus and William Joseph are related.
150264 is traced back to John Grant b. about 1665 in Newbury, Ma.
John was married to Sarah [unknown] she was b. abt
1669 in Newbury, Ma. They had 4 children, William, b. 1 Nov 1694 in
Newbury and d. 20 Apr 1785 in Newbury. I have read that he had no children.
Also 2 girls, Joanna b. 2 Apr 1697and Sarah b. 10 Apr 1691. They both died
Aug 1706 in Newbury, Ma. Then Abraham who was the youngest.
151747 – is a member of the very large
Virginia-A group over in the THORNTON Surname DNA Project. The Virginia-A
group has several main subgroups. Three of these subgroups descend from early
settlers in Virginia in the 1600s. These include William “The Gloucester
Immigrant” THORNTON, Henry THORNTON (thought to be William’s brother - but no
proof of that), and Luke. Evidence has been presented that William was born
in Ryvington, Lancashire c1621. Luke is thought by
some to be William’s son by a first marriage while others believe he is the
grandson of Henry THORNTON and Martha FLOUD of Middlesex, England, however,
no proof exists for either theory. The Luke subgroup is by far the largest
within Virginia-A. The fourth group, the Northamptonshire
group (of which I am a member) can be traced back to the southwestern corner
of Northamptonshire. My grandfather was:
§ William Matthew THORNTON [b. 1901/d. 1988 in Boston, Mass]; his father was
§ George Thomas THORNTON [b. 1866/Kingston, Ontario & d. 1935/Boston, Mass], who immigrated to Boston in 1890; his father was
§ Timothy J. THORNTON [b. 1839/Walsgrave on Sowe, Warwickshire, UK & d. 1907/Halifax, Nova Scotia], who immigrated to Canada in 1859 with the British military (Royal Newfoundland Company); his father was
§ George THORNTON [b. 1806/Wolverton, Buckinghamshire, UK & d. 1865/Walsgrave on Sowe, Warwickshire, UK].
§ George’s father (another George) seems to originate from a succession of George THORNTONs from Canons Ashby in southwestern corner of Northamptonshire beginning c1687. How the Northamptonshire group is connected to the ancestors of William, Henry, and Luke is unknown, but Ryvington, Lancashire is a long way from Canons Ashby!
Kit 154584 Thomas Grant (1630-1690). It is unknown where he was born or who his parents were. We do know he crossed the Scotland border into England fighting on the side of Charles II. He was captured during the Battle of Worcester. He was sent to America on the ship John and Sarah and was sold as an indentured servant. He was one of the early members of the Colony of New Plymouth. He resided in the colony for many years with his family and the vital records of his family were preserved in the Rehoboth records of the Colony.
156050 and 157437 are connected to Elisha Grant 1798-1850 thru William Joseph Grant 1829-1883 as described in kit 149892.
161925 – Here is my lineage:
Kit 163661 - My lineage is as follows:
163670 – My lineage is:
However his parents died when he was quite young and he was sent to Buffalo to live. Then prior to World War II, in order to work in the defense industry he had to prove citizenship. Upon return to Sacketts, He learned of the fire. He found someone who had known the family and they gave him a letter. So I am trying to get past this hurdle.
I have tried every avenue that I could think of to trace back to a more distant relative on the Grant side. That’s why a joined the DNA project. I'm hoping to find a close enough match to get me to a area of Scotland where my Grant relatives came from. Through investigation I know that there a several possible areas. Harry Grant was born about 1886.
Kit 163789 can be traced back to his Grandfather carried out detailed research into our family history finding that our recent past is established definitely back to a Gregor Grant who was thought to have been the son of Patrick (McAlpine) Grant, 5th Laird of Rothiemurchus and his second wife Rachel Grant of Tullochgorum in about 1743. Gregor and his wife Margaret are thought to have lived in Blair Street, near the Tron Kirk. Gregor was a Merchant in the Old Kirk Parish but later, we are told, became a Kings Messenger for the Sheriff of Edinburgh. In a memorandum of a Great Uncle Colesworthey Grant published in Calcutta in 1881, page 2, “The Grants that came to Calcutta were connected with the Grant’s of Rothiemurchus” and on page 4, speaking of my GGGrandfather George Grant, a Watch, Clock, and Chronometer maker there, it says, “Sir John Grant (Rothiemurchus himself)”, another Judge of the Supreme Court, called on George shortly after Sir Edward Ryan’s first visit and said “Mr Grant, I find we are kinsmen, to which George respectfully nodded. This would have been Sir John Peter Grant. 8th Laird of Rothiemurchus and father of Elizabeth Grant of Rothiemurchus who wrote the “Memoirs of a Highland Lady” or her brother, Sir John Peter Grant, GCMG, KCB. 10th Laird.
Patrick Macalpine Grant Laird of Rothiemurchus, Rachell Grant of Tullochgorum, Gregor Grant and his family. 1720 – 1807.
I, John Michael Gregor Grant, in researching the family of my Great Grandfather Gregor Grant, have yet to be able to pin down definitely that Gregor was the son of Patrick Macalpine Grant, Laird of Rothiemurchus in the early eighteenth century although additional information has got me much closer to establishing this.. The positive finds I have are the following.
George A Dixon from Stirling, who wrote me a long letter attached to this note, thinks that Gregor can be directly connected to Patrick Macalpine Grant through a copy of a marriage contract kept in the National Registry of Scotland, NRS:SC29/55/3, fos 92-3, which settles the date of Patrick Macalpine’s second marriage to Rachell Grant of Tullochgorum as 17th March 1720. It is concluded from the second and third documents that Gregor Grant was indeed Macalpine’s youngest son, that he was born before 8th October 1737, and that his father was dead by 23rd January 1742. The third document shows a signature of Gregor Grant, a witness. A copy of this is enclosed.
From my own searches I have only one difficulty in being certain that the Gregor to whom I know we are related from the time he lived in Edinburgh was actually the Gregor who was the son of Patrick and Rachell as I can find no actual record of a Rachell Grant in Edinburgh. I can only find reference to a Mrs Grant who lived at 3 Society in 1804 and 1805, a group of small residences for old or poor people built by The Society of Brewers in Edinburgh opposite Greyfriars Church, and a poor Mrs Grant who died and was buried at Castle Ground in July 1806. In order to establish as near as possible the connection that this Mrs Grant was Rachell I have tabulated the events as I know them which should show that she and Gregor were mother and son and that we are definitely related to the Grants of Rothiemurchus.
Fraser states that Patrick Macalpine was born in 1665. If he married Rachell on 17th March 1720 he will have been fifty five. Rachell would have been very young. If she died at about 100 years old or more in 1806 she would have only been about 15 to 17 when she married. Rachell bore Patrick four sons, Gregor being the youngest and being born, as George Dixon states, before 1737. If each son was born at about two year intervals Gregor would have been born in 1728 and will have been 14 when his father died in 1742 at the age of 77. This seems to show that Elizabeth Grant, in her ‘Memoirs of a Highland Lady’ was not correct in what she wrote on page 1/229 of her book. Gregor was their fourth son, not Alexander. George Dixon, who researched the Grants of Tullochgorum insists that they were as senior as the Grants of Rothiemurchus so were no ‘Bonnet Lairds’ or ‘Tacksmen’ as has been described.
I have no records of any other events until searches by my grandfather George Ferguson Gregor Grant (GFGG) in 1930 revealed the birth certificate of James Grant, Gregor’s second son, a great grandfather of mine. In further searches with ScotlandsPeople I have found his other sons and daughters, so the family appears as follows: -
Date Name Event Notes
1728? Gregor Born Son of Patrick Macalpine Grant, Laird of Rothiemurchus and Rachell Grant of Tullochgorum. See Sir William Fraser’s Chiefs of Grant, page 509.
1767? Gregor Married Margaret Grant.
1768 John Born On 1st Oct Baptised at Tolbooth Kirk. Witnesses Robert Grant, silver turner and ? No further trace of him has been found.
1770 James Born On 9th July in Old Kirk Parish. Father, a Merchant. Witnesses Robert Grant and John Wilson, silver turner.
1772 Francis Born On 10 July in Old Kirk Parish. Father an Innkeeper. Witnesses Robert Grant, New North Kirk Parish. Francis Fraser, Sheriff Officer of Tolbooth Parish.
1774 Francis Died On 24th June 1774, aged 2 years. Buried at Greyfriars on 26/7/74. ‘4Dp S Roshalls’
1774 Margaret Born 12th July 1774. Witnesses Robert Grant, William McBeath, Sheriff Officer.
1776 Grace Not found. Grace grew up and married John Simpson, a ship’s Purser. They had a son, James, who became an advocate and wrote a book on education.
1778 Jean Born 27th November. Father Indweller. Old Kirk Parish. Witnesses Lewis Grant, Merchant and Alexander Grant, Printer.
GFGG writes in his handwritten record of 1930, “My grandfather (George) who spent his early boyhood, until about 1807, living with his grandparents in Blair Street, near the Tron Church Edinburgh, writes in the same memorandum of a grandmother “who must have been about a hundred years when she died”. He often described her to his daughters as a very stately old lady, dressed in black silk who walked with a long silver beaded stick, and he remembered being taken, when a child by his father to her funeral which was attended by an enormous number of mourners, whom he described as winding in processions like a black snake along a valley. This can hardly have been his own grandmother Margaret, who was living in poor circumstances in Edinburgh in 1813, (Uncle James Autobiography [ George’ s younger brother James Gregor]) , but might quite well have been his father’s grandmother Rachel, who must have been born in 1720.”
Other information I have found relates to Gregor’s death, a Mrs Grant who I have assumed to be Rachell and Gregor’s grandson George, son of James and Sobieska Clementina (Jones).
1782 Gregor Died 17/2/82 Late Merchant. Buried at Greyfriars, ‘4 Dp S Roshalls, Tomb 44’. This Tomb has been identified by John Young and me at Greyfriars Church. I have visited the spot with him. It is mentioned as the tomb of Margaret, daughter of Sir John Hamilton of Rosehall, in a book by John Brown, who was in charge of the cemetery in 1867. I am advised by Aileen Stirling at Mortonhall Crematorium that Francis and Gregor’s burial point would be ‘4 Double paces South of Tomb 44’ where there is now plain grass.
1798 George Born 29/7/98 Born in Carlisle. George’s father and Mother, James and Sobieska Clementina (Jones) went to Dublin about or after 1801. They were actors. Her father George Jones had interests in theatres in Edinburgh and Dublin which would have been the reason they went there. George was left behind in Edinburgh with his grandmother.
1804 Mrs Grant Post Office records show that a Mrs Grant lived at 3 Society in 1804 and 1805 but not in 1806. They were small cottages built by The Brewers Society of Edinburgh in Chambers St, Edinburgh, presumably for poor people. These cottages were in a square opposite Greyfriars Church at the south of the City. This Mrs Grant could have been Rachell who went there when Margaret became the mistress of the small boarding house.
1806 (Rachell) 22/7/06 A poor Mrs Grant died and was buried in Castle Ground which is part of Canongate Churchyard. Why was she buried in Castle Ground and not at Greyfriars adjacent to where she lived is not yet known. Was it because she was the wife of a Laird? This Mrs Grant could most likely have been Rachell, Gregor’s mother. At about the age of 6 or 7 George would have remembered the very stately old lady dressed in black silk with a long silver beaded stick and having been taken by his father to her funeral in
1806. This could well have been Rachell who would have been at least 100 years old at that time.
1807 George Lived with his Grandmother Margaret. At the age of about 9 George was sent to join family in Dublin probably arranged by one of his aunts Margaret or Jean who lived locally. He went by canal boat to The Clyde and thence by open sea to Dublin.
Gregor was the first generation of our family since 1730, James was second, George third, GFGG fifth and I am the seventh generation. George became a clock and Watchmaker in Liverpool, London. He went to Calcutta in 1830 where he was well known for checking Ships chronometers. In about 1847 he met Elizabeth Grant’s father Sir John Peter Grant who greeted George as his kinsman.
If it was Rachell that lived at 3 Society between 1804 and 1805, having died in 1806, it would indicate that she was the lady to whose funeral George was taken to and she was his great grandmother.
Concentrate on Gregor and Rachel as they are the most important. One point, do you think that if Peter Grant and I have the same Haplogroup No that could prove the connection with Patrick Macalpine Grant?
I have precied it down to the bare bones. Hope this is what you want. I seem to have had some trouble with replying to your emails. At least two have ben returned undelivered. I have removed the word Geiealogy. I hope it workes now. I have also copied to email and not attached it.
The Gregor Grant Family, 1720 – date.
Gregor, assumed son of Patrick Macalpine Grant 1665 – 1742, Laird of Rothimurchus (See Sir Wm Fraser, Chiefs of Grant p 509. Mother, Rachell of Tullochgorum, Patrick’s second Wife (see NRS:SC29/55/3, fos 92-3). b.approx 1728 Inverdruie, Merchant in Edinburgh, d. Edinburgh 17 February 1782, buried in Greyfriars Churchyard, Edinburgh.
James, Gregor’s second son b.1770 Edinburgh, Actor, D. London 1829
George, James first son, b Carlisle 1798, watchmaker London and Calcutta, d. 1873 Islington.
George Gregor, George’s first son, b 1839 Calcutta, Clockmaker, d. 1908 Bexleyheath, Kent 1908.
George Ferguson Gregor, George G’s son, b. 1869 Calcutta, Civil Servant London, d. Tunbridge Wells, Kent 1939.
Garrow Gregor, GFG’s first son, b. London 1900, Chartered Architect, d.1973 Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
John Michael Gregor, GG’s son, b. Tunbridge Wells 1935, Chartered Quantity Surveyor London, retired 2001.
James Alister Gregor, JMG’s son, b. Tunbridge Wells 1969, Chartered Structural and Civil Engineer.
Adam Gregor, JAG’s son, b.2007.
It is understood that Rachell and Gregor left Strathspey after Patrick’s death in 1742 and went to Edinburgh. Rachell lived with Gregor’s family after he died. It is recorded in George’s memorandum that she was a stately old lady, dressed in black silk who walked with a long silver beaded stick and he remembered being taken when a child by his father to her funeral attended by an enormous number of mourners in 1806 and that she was over 100 years old when she died. I have a record of a Mrs Grant that lived at 3 Society, Edinburgh who died on 22nd July 1806. Her age, over 100 as stated by George in his memorandum and that George was taken to her funeral indicates that she was Rachell, Patrick’s wife and mother of Gregor. I am looking for this to be confirmed.
(This is great historical background, but too complicated to actually show the lineage from the most distant Grant to you. Can you condense the information to show line directly to you?)
167353 is a descendant of Donald McBain.
Kit 171847 can be traced back to John Grant, 1753-1820, who was born on the Isle of Jersey and emigrated to Marblehead, Massachusetts around 1769. Settled in Lyndeborough, New Hampshire, where three more generations of Grants were born. Family then moved west to Wisconsin and then on to Missouri.
Below is his line:
Kit 175989 descends from James Cuthbert Grant, son of HBC Chief Trader Richard Grant (same as Kits 30499 & 121522) and his second spouse, Sarah aka Indian Woman at Oxford House. James aka Jimmy Grant was born c1836 at or near Oxford House and returned to his father’s custody at Fort Hall, Idaho, when he was about 10 years old. He married Marie Cadotte and had children Mary Grant Rides At The Door, Julia Grant Magee, Richard Grant, James Cuthbert Grant Jr., John Grant, Emma Grant, and Maggie Grant. James/Jimmy died at Dupuyer, Montana, in 1883. Some of the family history is detailed in Blackfoot Heritage Book. For more info and pictures, please see: http://www.william-grant-of-trois-rivieres-genealogy.ca/index.html
Kit 178979 can be traced back to his Great Grandfather Reagion Havelick Grant. His grandfather was Orris Osalfort Grant, and his father was Orris Ulysses Grant. He has traced the family back to a John Grant, but there are so many, he does not know which trail to follow. He was told the family came over from Scotland to New Brunswick, Canada in the late 1600's or early 1700's and moved to Canterbury, York N.B. then into Hodgdon, Maine in the early 1800's. Reagion was born in Hodgdon. He has other names but do not know how they fit in. "The more I look into it, the further I get lost."
Kit 182171 is tied to Thaddeus Theopolus Grant born 1825 in NC and died 1916 in Grayson, Texas. Thaddeus married Sarah Elizabeth Duncan in 1849. They had twelve children, Lee, Martha, Sarah, Minerva, Charles, Mary, John Henry, (1855-1891), Elisha, Lewis, Theodisch, Dulcie, and Lucinda --Thaddeus T. Grant-John Henry Grant-Alvris White Grant -- Kit 182171 is connected to the same Elisha Grant, but thru Thaddeus Theopolus Grant 1825-1916.
Kit 194361 is linked to the Grants of Campbell County, Tennessee. James Grant (ca. 1754-1824) came to the confluence of the Clinch and Powell Rivers in upper East Tennessee at the end of the 18th century. He was joined there during the first decade of the 19th century by other relatives, notably John Grant, John, Jr., another James, Cynthia, Elizabeth, Jonathan, Abigail and perhaps others. The family originated in New England. James Grant was a Sergeant in the 3rd, 4th and 1st Connecticut Regiments in the Revolutionary War. He was one of the founders of the Knoxville Polk Lodge #2. He served as a Justice of the Peace in Grainger County, and Chairman and Clerk of the Courts of Anderson and Campbell Counties. James Grant knew many of the influential leaders of the U.S. Territory South of the River Ohio and the fledgling State of Tennessee, including William Blount, Stockley Donelson, Andrew Jackson, John Sevier, George Washington Campbell, Joseph Anderson, Hugh Lawson White, John Overton and Jenkin Whiteside. He was the Lt. Col. Commandant of the 33rd Tennessee Militia. He founded and served as a commissioner for the town of Grantsborough, which was inundated by the reservoir created by the Norris Dam in 1936. Known descendants of this family moved to Missouri in the late 1830's and 1840’s.
Kit 197206 Owner is a Grant, grandson of Hugh Grant (ca. 1844-1924) from Nova Scotia and Ellen Brazille, Indian of the Klamath River area, northern California. Hugh came to California in the 1860s, and was a son of Paul Grant (1816-1894) of French River, Pictou County, Nova Scotia. Our research found Paul was a son of John Grant (ca 1776+-ca.1841+)who was a son of Alpin Grant (ca. 1740-ca.1817+) who came to Pictou County in 1784. This is the same ancestor Alpin Grant in Kit 133216.
§ John Ban Grant m. (possibly) Margaret ____
§ Peter Grant; Farmer; born 1798; died 1850, Charlottenburg Township, Glengarry County, Ontario
§ James Wright Grant (third of five sons), born 1842, Charlottenburg Township; yeoman; emigrated in 1882 to Cameron, Missouri; died 1911 in Cameron.
You also may be interested to know that Alexander Grant, the founder of Alexander Grant & Co. (now Grant Thornton) comes from this line. He was James Wright Grant's fourth son (by his second wife). Alexander was born in Missouri in 1898, founded the company in 1924, and died in Chicago in 1938 at the age of 40.
His lineage is as follows:
John Ban Grant who is on the E 1/2 of lot 10 on the front. That is my guy!!! I have the Abstract for the same land and it was given to Peter Grant from the Crown.
201465 descends from Richard George Washington Grant
(1823 – 1905) who was born in Georgia but died in Arkansas. Richard G W Grant
had a son Thomas Sterling Grant (20 Jul 1862 - 29 May 1947) who was born and
died in Montgomery, Arkansas. Thomas S Grant had a son Winnie Robert Grant
(23 Sep 1898 - 16 Jan 1959) born and died in Lucky, Montgomery County,
Arkansas. His son was Coy William Grant (6 Jun 1918 - Jan 1986. He was born
in Montgomery County Arkansas, but died in Malvern, Hot Spring County,
Arkansas. The Kit owner's father is William (Billy) Harold Grant.
Kit 206696 is a descendant of paternal Grandfather, Hay McDowall Grant Robb, 1866-1940 who married Hannah Watt Grant 1867-1931.
Kit 212164 brother of Kit # 30499) refers to the descendants of John Grant (c1700) in Inverlochie and his wife, Jean Forbes. Their place of origin is unknown. They had several children, all born in the Parish of Kirkmichael, Scotland. John came to America in the mid 1700s but it is unknown whether he stayed or returned to Scotland. One son was William Grant (1743) of Trois-Riviers, Quebec, merchant and senior trading partner of Grant, Campion and Co. of the Northwest Co. William married Marguerite Fafard dit Laframbois at Trois-Rivieres in 1787 and was the father of HBC Chief Trader of Ft. Hall, Richard Grant. Richard Grant married Marie Ann Breland and was the father of Johnny/John F. Grant. Johnny was a trader and rancher at Deer Lodge, Montana, and the originator of the Grant-Kohr's Ranch National Historic Site. He was also one of the original settlers of what is now the Carman area of Manitoba, Canada. Other families related or associated with these Grants were Laframboise, Dobie, Breland, Rowand, Grant, Kittson, Higgins, McLauchlin, Dempsey, Tendoy,LaVatta, Bruneau, McIver, Dease and many more. My interest lies in identifying the Scottish place of origin of this family and other Grant connections. I am particularly interested in the various Grants of the fur trade era and 'our' Grant relationship to them and other fur trading families between 1700 and 1900. Male line:
possibly Donald Grant in/of Inverlochie > John Grant in Inverochie (& Jean Forbes) > William Grant of Trois Rivieres (& Marguerite Fafard dit Laframboise) > HBC Chief Trader Richard Grant (& Marie Anne Breland) > Richard Stanislas Grant (& Emilie Levreau de Langie) > Joseph Richard Grant (& Laura Delores LaVatta) > John Nelson Grant (& Frances Norton) > Francis Nelson Grant (& Amanda Lavoie).
218315 – is the descendant of:
231783 - is a descendant of Beriah Grant, born in Stonington, CT in 1698. His lineage is as follows:
239757 – Decendents of James Grant ( blvd b. abt 1817 ) and Mary Grant ( blvd. b. 1818-1823 ). Married February 22 1844. - Born to James Grant and Mary Grant of Culdorachbeg were James Grant Sr. ( * b. 1846 March 12 - d. 1933 July 1. *- substantiated through Registry of Births and Baptisms) and siblings Annie Grant ( blvd b. abt 1849 ), - William Grant ( b.1852 ), - John Grant ( b.1857,) - and Mary "Marion" Grant ( b. 1860.) - James Grant Sr. married Margaret Stuart Rose on 1875 April 15. - They lived at Wester Culfoich near Cromdale. - Born to James Grant Sr. and Margaret "Maggie" Grant (nee Rose) were John Charles Grant ( b.1891 December 13. - d. 1972 December 10 at Medecine Hat Alberta.) - and siblings Marion Rose Grant ( b.1875 - d. 1967 ), Elizabeth Stuart Grant ( b. 1879 - d.1964 ), James Grant Jr. ( b.1881 - d. 1970.) Peter Grant ( b.1883 - d. 1973 ). Alice Grant ( b. 1885 - d. 1945 ) Rose Margaret Grant ( b. 1887 - d. 1969 ), and Edith Grant ( b. 1889 - d. 1980 ) - James Grant Sr. and the entire family emigrated to Canada between 1903 and 1910. With the exception of Marion Rose and Rose Margaret all settled in northern Saskatchewan. -John Charles Grant married Mary Anne Plaxton January 28 1931.
240192 is a descendant of John Grant and wife Janet.
266025 (born 1938) is the:
266025 (born 1938) is the:
We’re looking for information re: John Roy Grant and his father Allan
We’re looking for information re: John Roy Grant and his father Allan
Below is some information from a non-participant at this time, but there is a lot of information that might be useful to those of you who have Grant's connected to some of the surnames listed:
- Dennis Muller (Ancesty.com tree name DennisMuller1)