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JOSEPH ZINCK FAMILY BIOGRAPHY

Presented by Audrey (Lehmann-Shields) Hancock

2007, Information, photos, etc. courtesy of C. J. Egetter & Gay Ellen (Egetter) Hanlon

Contributor: 2007, Helen L. (Steele) Lehman, wife of Joseph Lehman of Dayton, OH

Seeking to learn if there is a family connection for Joseph Zinck to Celestine Zinck of Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio.

JOSEPH ZINCK was born to unknown parents in 1820 somewhere in France [aka Alsace, Bas-Rhin, France or Alsace-Lorraine, France] [aka Reichsland (Elsaß-Lothringen), Germany when under German control] [aka Bavaria or Prussia in vital records]. Here he married Thresa (aka Theresa) [perhaps BECHEL or BECKEL]. Here their first daughter, Melania, was born. Here on the 14th of March in 1848, this ZINCK family left their fatherland and embarked on their journey to America. More than likely, they traveled with other family members or very close friends, as was common when relocating to another country. They left the port at Le Havre, France on the ship "Ancona" for New Orleans. It appears that they had plans to immediately reconnect with family members already present in America. Upon their arrival in New Orleans it appears the family made their way for Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio where one Celestine Zinck (of unknown relationship) was located and where perhaps others they knew were located. However, at this time, the exact relationship of Joseph to Celestine is unknown. Based upon preponderance of evidence they were likely brothers or perhaps cousins.


Zinck, Joseph
Age: 30
Port of Departure: Havre
Arrival Date: March 14, 1848
Port of Arrival: New Orleans
Country of Origin: France
Ship Name: "Ancona"
Zinck, Therese
Age: 30
[same as above]
Zinck, Melanie
Age: 1 1/2
[same as above]
[Source: Internet, 8 Apr 2006, E-mail to ASH: C. J. Egetter & Gay Ellen (Egetter) Hanlon]



Courtesy of: C. J. Egetter


The Ships List
Internet, Retrieved 9 March 2007 by ASH
Ancona, ship (American)
500 tons, 16 ft draft, built 1845; Capt. Noah Nason, Havre, ? - New Orleans, April 25 (50 days); 10 passengers (NAMP, M272-4; NAMP, M259-26-33; Picayune, April 27, 1847, p. 3, col. 2; Registre Veritas, Vol. 19, p. 69, no. 1200)
Ancona, ship
Capt. Nason, Havre, Aug. 26 - New Orleans, Oct. 20; 169 passengers (NAMP, M272-4; NAMP, M259-27-212; Picayune, Oct. 21, 1847, p. 3, col. 2)

Upon their (Joseph, Thresa, & daughter, Melania) arrival in Montgomery County, Ohio they settled in the city of Dayton, and their family grew to include at least three more daughters (Louisa, Regina, & Josephine), and even perhaps another (Caroline).

By 1855 at age 35 or 40 depending upon the reference, Joseph was deceased leaving his wife, Thresa, a widow and daughters fatherless. He was originally buried at the now defunct St. Henry's Cemetery, Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio, as were apparent other family members. The remains of Joseph Zinck (Interment #04180 at 1SE; death or burial given as 1855? at age 40 according to Calvary Cemetery Records...gravestone places age as 35 at death) and the remains of Caroline (aka Carolina) Zinck (Interment #04177 at 1SE; death or burial given as 1855? with no age given) were both reinterred at Calvary Cemetery in Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio in the same plot in Section 1, Lot 357. Also is found among the records the reburial of the remains of Theresia Zinck (Interment #04181 at 2SE; death or burial given as 1855? at age 70) At this time the relationship of the 70 year old Theresia Zinck to Joseph Zinck is unknown.

[Of interest to Audrey (Lehmann-Shields) Hancock is the fact that the remains of her ancestral grandparents, Michel/Michael Lehman(n) and his wife, Marie Madeleine/Mary Magdelena/Malinda/Helena Biam, were also reinterred from St. Henry's Cemetery to Calvary Cemetery and lie in the same plot under Joseph, Theresia and Caroline Zinck. "Michael" & "Helena" "Lehman" (per burial information) were the parents of Regina Rachel Lehman(n) who married Celestine Zinck.]

Children of Joseph & Thresa:
1. Melania/Malinda/Melanie "Nellie" Zinck, b Feb 1845 Alsace, France; married Marx "Martin" Egetter. Click to see more of the Egetter Family and Other Data

Courtesy of: C. J. Egetter
23 March 2009
2. Louisa Zinck, b 1848 Ohio
3. Regina Zinck, b abt. 1850 Ohio, disappears from the family at the time of the 1870 U. S. Federal Census (see below). Did she die, marry or move away?
4. Josephine "Jo" Zinck, b May 1852 Ohio, married Jacob I. Schneider (b. May 1840 in Ohio) [per C. J. Egetter & Gay Ellen (Egetter) Hanlon]
5. perhaps Carolina / Caroline Zinck who was buried with Joseph Zinck when their remains were transferred from St. Henry Cemetery, Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio to Calvary Cemetery, Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio. (She could also be the Regina listed above in the 1870 census, who was not found in the 1880 census.) ASH

At the time of the 1860 U. S. Federal Census, Thresa had given her name as Theresa Bechel/Beckel and her daughters were listed as Zinck. Had she remarried briefly to a Mr. Bechel/Beckel or did she in haste not understand that in widowhood women in America kept their married names, and thus perhaps gave her maiden name which could have been Bechel/Beckel?  By the time of the 1870 Census she was "Therresa Zinck" and residing next door to her daughter and son-in-law [Martin Egetter and Melania (Zinck) Egetter] and family.


1860 U. S. Federal Census
Montgomery Co., OH
City: Dayton
5th Ward
20 Jun 1880
#1140-1185
Theresa Bechel, 43, female, Real Estate $1500, Personal Property $150, b France
Malinda Zinck, 15, female, b France
Louisa Zinck, 12, female, b Ohio
Regina Zinck, 10, female, b Ohio
Josephine Zinck, 8, female, b OH
(Internet, Heritage Quest)


1870 U. S. Federal Census
Montgomery County, Ohio
City of Dayton
Ward 5
14 Jul 1870
#55-55
Getter, Martin E., 26, male, white, Harness maker, b France, both parents of foreign birth
Getter, Mattiena (sic), 25, female, white, Keeping House, b France, both parents of foreign birth
Getter, Clara, 3, female, white, b OH, both parent of foreign birth
Getter, Anna, 2, female, white, b OH, both parent of foreign birth
(Internet, Heritage Quest)

Next Door:
#56-56
Houck, F....., 63, male, white, Keeps House, b PA, both parents of foreign birth
Zinck, Therresa, 54, female, white, Invalide (sic), Real Estate $3500, b France, both parents of foreign birth
Hoselman, Frederick, 18, male, white, Jour. Saddler, b Baden, both parents of foreign birth
[Note: Frederick's parents appear on this same page in a different household. ASH]
[Note: HOSELMAN appears to have been corrupted from HARLEMAN. CJE) (Source: Internet, Heritage Quest)



1880-1881
U.S. City Directories
Dayton, Ohio
Proudfoot and Urquhart's Directory of Dayton and Montgomery County
p. 490

Zinck, Henry J., cigar maker, res nw Corner of Main & Washington [s/o Celestine Zinck & Rachel Regina Lehmann]

Zinck, Josephine, domestic, 506 Jefferson [dau/o Joseph & Theresa [--?--] Zinck]
Zinck, Louisa, res 516 s Jefferson [dau/o Joseph & Theresa [--?--] Zinck]
Zinck, Theresa, wid[ow], res 516 s Jefferson [widow of Joseph Zinck]



1882-83
U.S. City Directories
Dayton, Ohio
Williams' Dayton City Directory
Zinck, Celestin, boots & shoes, 427 S Main, near Washington, res same [Celestine, hus/o Rachel Regina Lehman(n)]
Zinck, Celestin E., shoe maker, 427 S Main, near Washington [s/o Celestine & Rachel Regina (Lehmann) Zinck]
Zinck, Henry J., clerk, Union Depot Restaurant, res 427 S Main, near Washington [s/o Celestine & Rachel Regina (Lehmann) Zinck]
Zinck, Joseph M., machine hand, res 427 S Main, near Washington [s/o Celestine & Rachel Regina (Lehmann) Zinck]

Zinck, Josephine, res John Nipgen's [dau/o Joseph & Theresa Zinck; sis/o Melania "Nellie" Zinck & Louisa Zinck]
Zinck, Louisa, res Martin Egetter's [Martin Egetter, hus/o Melania "Nellie" Zinck; dau/o Joseph & Theresa Zinck; sis/o Louisa & Josephine]
Zinck, Theresa, widow [of Joseph Zinck], res Martin Egetter's [Mother-in-law of Martin; mother of Louisa, Josephine, and Melania]



Courtesy of: C. J. Egetter
8 Feb 2007

Thresa (aka Theresia & Theresa), Joseph's wife, died at 68 years on 26 March 1884 (Calvary Cemetery Record, Internment 01923 at 1SE) [born 1815-died 1883 according to gravestone inscription*]. She was buried 30 March 1884 (Calvary Cemetery Record) directly next to Joseph, her husband, and those lying under him as given above at Calvary Cemetery, Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio. Interestingly, their gravestones are not located in the same section as the Celestine Zinck family (per C. J. Egetter).
* [Note: Sometimes gravestones were not placed until some years later, and the family informant ordering the stone incorrectly gave erroneous dates. At other times, it is known that gravestone engravers made errors and in that case families sometimes kept what was written having received compensation for the error. ASH]



The LEHMANNs, FRICKs, ZINCKs (Celestine), & LINGLEs are known to have been related by marriage.
The EGETTERs & ZINCKs (Joseph) are known to have been related by marriage.
A close relationship is probable between Celestine Zinck family and Joseph Zinck family with Celestine and Joseph as probable brothers, perhaps cousins.


Cemetery Records, Calvary Cemetery, Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio
Section 1, Lot 357, 12 sites                         Section 2B, Lot 53, 12 sites
            
LEFT PHOTO: (Source: March 2007, Paper Copy of Record from Joseph Lehman & Helen L. (Steele) Lehman)
RIGHT PHOTO: (Source: Internet, April 2007, Photo from C. J. Egetter)


See also: Egetter-Zinck, etc. Burials in Calvary Cemetery from C. J. Egetter


Section 1, Lot 357, 12 sites
6 sites owned by Fred. [Ferdinand] Frick
Frick, Catharine  [Catharine (Lehmann)(aka Lehman) Frick, dau/o Michel Lehmann & Marie Madeleine/Mary Magdelena/Malinda/Helena Biam...ASH]
Frick, Ferdinand  [Husband of Catharine Lehman(n)...ASH]
Courtesy of: C. J. Egetter
8 March 2007
Frick, Joseph  [s/o Ferdinand Frick & Catharine Lehman(n)...ASH]
Frick, Aloysius  [s/o Ferdinand Frick & Catharine Lehman(n)...ASH]
  [Note of 8-6-1942: " 'Louise Frick, daughter of Aloysius phoned and said, "Under no circumstances should her father be removed from this lot.' Was writing a letter."]
Yeager, William H.  [Assumed to be husband of Theresa Catherine/Amelia Frick...ASH]
Yeager, Theresa Amelia  (aka Theresa Catherine)  [Theresa Catherine/Amelia Frick, dau/o Ferdinand Frick & Catharine Lehman(n)]
[The record appears to place Theresa's burial between Rollins Eberhardt and her brother, Joseph Frick. ASH]
Eberhardt, Rollins (6 years)  [Unknown family connection. ASH]

Courtesy of: C. J. Egetter
8 March 2007
C. J. Egetter indicates, "... all of the Egetter graves are unmarked … not a visible sign anywhere that any Egetter lies therein. So it’s most interesting that there are SIX lots owned by M.A. Egetter!"


6 sites owned by M. A. Egetter
M. A. Egetter appears to have been Marx/Martin Egetter, s/o Jean/John Egetter & wife, Elisabeth.
Martin A. Egetter died in Los Angeles, California.
Martin A. Egetter's wife was Melania Zinck, dau/o Joseph & Thresa. CJE/GEEH/ASH]

2 empty sites or unknown burials
Egetter, Joseph W.  [b 13 October 1879; d 15 March 1881...CJE/GEEH]   [Joseph William Egetter, s/o Marx/Martin Egetter & Melania Zinck (dau/o Joseph Zinck & Thresa [--?--])...CJE/GEEH]
Egetter, Inf. of John   [Believed infant/o John C. Egetter & wife, Melissa Hott. (John C. was s/o Marx/Martin Egetter & Melania Zinck [dau/o Joseph Zinck].) CJE/GEEH
Beachgood, Louisa  [Unknown family connection. CJE/GEEH]
Zinck, Theresia (Burial Plot: 2SE)   [This Theresia Zinck's connection to Joseph Zinck's family is unknown. She was originally buried at St. Henry's Cemetery, also. Her remains were reinterred at this site (Calvary Cemetery Records: Burial Plot: 2SE)
Zinck, Joseph (Calvary Cemetery Records: Burial Plot: 1SE) , Thresa (Calvary Cemetery Records names her as Theresia and Theresa: Burial Plot: 1SE), & Carolina/Caroline (Calvary Cemetery Records show both given names, Burial Plot: 1SE) **
[Immigrant from France: Joseph Zinck 1820-1855, husband of Thresa (1815-1883/84). Joseph reinterred from St. Henry's Cemetery. Caroline/Carolina Zinck was perhaps an unknown dau/o Joseph & Thresa, who apparently died before her mother, and was reinterred from St. Henry's in the same plot as Joseph. [Perhaps Carolina was Regina (enumerated at age 10y in 1860 Census, but then disappeared from records). CJE/GEEH]  [Record indicates that Joseph (1SE), Theresia (2SE), & Carolina (1SE) were reinterred from defunct St. Henry's Cemetery, Dayton, to Calvary Cemetery, Dayton.]

Could this Therese Zink have been Theresia Zinck?
Therese Zink, b about 1793; at age 54 immigrated to America in 1847 arriving at the port in Mississippi.
(Source: Internet, 10 Mar 2007, E-mail to ASH: C. J. Egetter: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index (778.6), 1500s-1900s Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s: Volume 1 was indexed as source number 778.5 in PILI 1996: BRASSEAUX, CARL A. The "Foreign French:" Nineteenth-Century French Immigration into Louisiana, Volume 2: 1840-1848, Lafayette, LA: The Center for Louisiana Studies, University of Southwestern Louisiana, 1992. 363 pages: Therese Zink p. 350)


[Buried under Joseph & Thresa: **Helena & Michael Lehman (sic)]
[This is Michel/Michael Lehmann & his wife, Marie Madeleine/Mary Magdelena/Malinda/Helena Biam, immigrants from Schirrhein, Alsace, France, whose daughter, Regina Rachel Lehman(n), married Celestine Zinck. Michael & Helena's remains were reinterred from defunct St. Henry's Cemetery, Dayton, to Calvary Cemetery, Dayton, and lie under Zincks who were reinterred. HSL/ASH]

Courtesy of: C. J. Egetter
8 March 2007
Red arrow indicates Ferdinand Frick's gravestone located near Joseph & Thresa Zinck's gravestone.


John Egetter, 55, is also indicated as being buried within the lot, yet he is given no particular plot placement in the Calvary Cemetery record.   [This is Jean / John Egetter, immigrant ancestor. His remains were also reinterred from defunct St. Henry's Cemetery, Dayton, to Calvary Cemetery, Dayton in Lot 352 of Section 1. His wife, Elisabeth [--?--] Egetter is buried in Section 10 with no markers anywhere. There are also two infant Egetters in Section 10. CJE/GEEH]

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Section 2B, Lot 53, 12 sites

6 sites owned by Vincent E. McBride
Unknown if there is a family connection.

6 sites owned by Frank M. Lingle
Courtesy of: C. J. Egetter
April 2007
Colestine [aka Celestine] Zinck, Sr., husband of Regina Rachel Lehman(n).
Joseph Zinck, s/o Celestine & Regina, b 28 Apr 1851
Anna Zinck, possibly dau/o Celestine & Regina
Henry Zinck [Henry Joseph Zinck], s/o Celestine & Reginia, b 7 Jul 1853
Odelia Zinck [Odelia Mary Zinck], dau/o Celestine & Regina, b 04 May 1862; d 7 Mar 1872
Regina Zinck [aka Regina Rachel Lehman(n)], wife of Celestine Zinck, dau/o Michel Lehmann & Marie Madeleine Biam, b 27 August 1825 France; d 23 May 1891
Celestine Zinck, Jr., s/o Celestine & Regina, b 29 March 1848; d 1 Jul 1923
Carrie F. Lingle [Carrie Frances Lingle], dau/o Frank M. Lingle & Clara M. Zinck, b 1877; d 1931
Frank M. Lingle, s/o unknown parents; hus/o Clara M. Zinck; b 1855; d 1911
Clara M. Lingle, dau/o Celestine Zinck & Regina Rachel Lehmann; wf/o Frank M. Lingle; b 1855; d 1916



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The MYSTERY of the ALLHOFF-ZINCK FAMILY CONNECTION


This newspaper article (below) in 1902 appears to link the Joseph Zinck family to the Celestine Zinck family.
The family connection appears to be along the ZINCK family line with the ALLHOFF family.


Placerville, California
Mountain Democrat
September 27, 1902
Courtesy of: C. J. Egetter

"Mrs. Kate Saettle [sic] and Mrs. Eggetter [sic] and son, of Dayton, Ohio, arrived in Placerville last Saturday evening for a brief visit with M. J. Allhoff. The ladies are cousins of Mr. Allhoff's mother, whom they had just visited at San Jose. The party visited Coloma Sunday as the guests of Mr. Allhoff and on Tuesday left for Sacramento, en route to Ohio."

[Note: Mrs. Kate Saettle was Catharine "Kate" Theodora (Zinck) Saettle, dau/o Celestine Zinck & Regina Rachel Lehmann and wife of George Saettel.
Mrs. Eggetter was Melania (Zinck) Egetter, dau/o Joseph Zinck & Theresa (perhaps Bechel) and wife of Martin Egetter.
Were the two Zinck ladies cousins between themselves and then with Mrs. Allhoff? If so, what was the three way relationship?
Mrs. Egetter's son was probably s/o Martin Egetter and Melania Zinck in the person of Charles Henry Egetter, gf/o C. J. Egetter, contributor to this biography. Charles would have been 24 years of age at the time, and perhaps Charles was influenced by the visit, for a few years later, Charles moved to California.
Mrs. Allhoff was Louisa (Weaver/Wever) Allhoff-Chalmers-Hardie, and M. J. Allhoff was her son. [Mr. Allhoff’s mother was a colorful character who played a major (and well recorded) role in the aftermath of the gold rush in El Dorado County, and the rise of the vineyard, wine, and hotel business in Coloma and vicinity. CJE]
However, the exact family connections are unknown.
1. Were Celestine Zinck & Joseph Zinck brothers?
2. How are Allhoffs and said cousins of Mrs. Allhoff related? ASH, CJE]

Joseph Zinck and wife, Theresa are buried at Calvary Cemetery in Dayton, Ohio, but their gravestones are not located in the same section as the Celestine Zinck family. Also, there is a huge section in the cemetery with many monuments devoted to the Allhoff family who are probably related.


Egetter variants: Eggetter, Edgeter, Agetter, etc.
Zinck variant: Zink
Allhoff variant: Althoff
Saettle variant: Settle, Saettel





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