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HARRIS DNA—GROUP 23

Compiled by Glenn Gohr

*This is a partial summary. It may take several weeks for any updates to this page after the last update from the HARRIS Y-DNA RESULTS Page. This is a time-consuming project.

Last updated April 1, 2014.

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This is an ongoing project seeking to chart out lines of descent that have been DNA tested as shown on the Harris Y-DNA Results Page. Information is based on DNA results, lineage information supplied by kit submitters, Bible records, vital records, legal documents, census records, family histories, internet sources, etc. In some cases the paper trail and/or information found on the web or other sources may be in error. Please view this information as a tool and not as proven fact.

NOTICE: Information presented in these webpages is not to be construed as PROVABLE FACTS. It is up to the user to verify all information that he/she receives. Some information has been provided by kit submitters and their own research. Other information has been added from other sources. Additions and corrections are welcome.

Lineage information in brackets lists the Group Number and the DNA Kit Number as found on the Harris Y-DNA Results Page. Additional information will be included as more DNA markers are tested and as more participants match up with this grouping.

Only one line of descent has been submitted for Group 23. The two kits submitted are distant relatives.

This group belongs to the J1 haplogroup. For information on Genetic Distances in Group 23, view this page: Genetic Distances - Group 23

Here are lineage charts (supported by DNA) that fall into Group 23 of the Harris Y-DNA Results. All spouses are not shown—only the ones that are listed as the parent of the generation that follows. For questionable generations, the names are preceded by an asterisk *. This means the connection between the person with an asterisk and the previous generation are unproven.

The modal listing of Group 23 up to 25 markers is listed on the HARRIS Y-DNA RESULTS Page.

In order to better compare matches in Group 23, the modal listing has also been posted on Ysearch with a user ID of N5Y2Q. To view the modal listing go to the Ysearch user ID page for N5Y2Q

This modal listing has also been posted at Ancestry.com on its DNA site. For those in Group 23 who have tested (or posted their results for free) with Ancestry.com, you should find a match with Group23Modal and surname Harris.

For an exact match to this group, the submitter must be a male with the HARRIS surname, be from the same haplogroup, and the DNA markers from his kit number should match exactly with these results. In most cases there will be at least one variation in DNA marker values. If the two test kits are from close relatives, then the variation is due to normal mutations of DNA. DNA mutations usually occur every 3 or 4 generations. Some specific markers tested are known to mutate faster than others.

HARRIS DNA GROUP 23 LINEAGE CHARTS


Lineage #1.—DNA Kit #68034.

This is the line of George Harris (ca. 1750-1824) (Generation #2). His parentage is unknown, but he is thought to be the son of William Harris of Hanover and Prince Edward County, Virginia who married an Elizabeth or Mary Graves.

This family’s migration pattern is: Hanover Co., VA > Prince Edward Co., VA > Louisa Co., VA > Warren Co., KY > Cass Co., MO > Johnson Co., MO.

This is a 25-marker test that belongs to the J1 haplogroup. It matches the 25-marker modal for Group 23 with one variance in marker 21. It should be noted that the paper trail for this line goes back to the exact same ancestor listed in Kit #56858 in Group 8; however, the DNA does not match and the haplogroup is different. Generation #4 appears to be the link that is in question. This kit was supplied by a cousin of the submitter for Kit #9532. The kit submitter has not supplied a lineage. A few more details from other sources are added below:

1 William {8} Harris b: ABT. 1730 d: ABT. 1798
  + [Elizabeth? or Mary? Graves?] b: ABT. 1730 d: BEF. 1799
    2 George {8-#56858\23-#9532-#68034} Harris b: ABT. 1750 d: 3 MAY 1824
      + Sarah "Sally" Hudson b: ABT. 1755 d: 3 JUL 1826
        3 Graves {8-#56858\23-#9532-#68034} Harris b: ABT. 1773 d: MAY 1849
          + Elizabeth Wheeler b: ABT. 1780 d: MAY 1851
            4 Wheeler Overton {8-#56858\23-#9532-68034} Harris b: ABT. 1807 d: 1883
              + Rosanna "Rosa" Collins b: ABT. 1810 d: 4 APR 1867
                5 Albert "Abner" {23-#9532-#68034} Harris b: 31 DEC 1826 d: 16 DEC 1898
                  + Margaret Willoughby b: 1832 d: 1879

(Source: http://www.harrisdna.org/info/9532.html; DESCENDANTS OF WILLIAM HARRIS, FATHER OF GRAVES HARRIS, OF VA: http://www.gravesfa.org/gen536.htm, accessed 5/17/2005; http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~langolier/PS71/PS71_392.HTML, accessed 4/4/2005; Couts Family Web Page, Vol. 6 #3 (2002): http://www.coutsfamily.com/news24.htm, accessed 6/20/2005; Records of Gary Bishop on Rootsweb's WorldConnect site: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2682715, accessed 7/13/2006; 1830 Lafayette Co, MO page 255; 1840 Lafayette Co, MO page 160; 1850 Lafayette Co, MO page 205A; 1860 Lafayette Co, MO page 383; 1870 Daviess Co, MO page 246B; 1880 Daviess Co, MO ED234-18; Will of George Harris found in Warren County, Kentucky Order Book C, 1823-1827; Ballard Family Files on GenCircles: http://www.gencircles.com/users/fballard/1, accessed 10/9/2005)

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For information on additional family members in this line, go to SOME EARLY HARRISES AND POSSIBLE DNA CONNECTIONS


Lineage #2.—DNA Kit #9532—Ysearch ID #FMX23.

This is the line of George Harris (ca. 1750-1824) (Generation #2). His parentage is unknown, but he is thought to be the son of William Harris of Hanover and Prince Edward County, Virginia who married an Elizabeth or Mary Graves.

This Kit’s Ysearch user ID is FMX23. Additional information on the paternal line can be found on the Ysearch user ID page for FMX23

This family’s migration pattern is: Hanover Co., VA > Prince Edward Co., VA >Louisa Co., VA > Warren Co., KY > Cass Co., MO > Johnson Co., MO > Polk Co., AR > Vernon Co., MO.

This is a 25-marker test that belongs to the J1 haplogroup. It matches the 25-marker modal for Group 23 with no variances. It should be noted that the paper trail for this line goes back to the exact same ancestor listed in Kit #56858 in Group 8; however, the DNA does not match and the haplogroup is different. Generation #4 appears to be the link that is in question. The lineage supplied by the DNA Kit submitter at http://www.harrisdna.org/info/9532.html can be found here:

George Harris, b. ca 1750, Hanover County, Va., d. May 3, 1824, Warren County, Ky.
Graves Harris, b. ca 1773, Hanover County, Va., d. May 1849, either Lafayette or Johnson County, Mo.
Wheeler Overton Harris, b. ca 1807, Hanover or Louisa County, Va., d. 1883, Daviess County, Mo.
Albert Harris, b. Dec. 31, 1826, Warren County, Ky., d. December 16, 1898, Johnson County, Mo.
James C. Harris, b. Aug. 20, 1861, d. 1946, Leflore County, Ok.
Woodrow R. Harris, b. April 2, 1909, Vernon County, Mo., d. Jan. 29, 1994, Jackson County, Mo.

A few more details from other sources are added below:

1 William {8} Harris b: ABT. 1730 d: ABT. 1798
  + [Elizabeth? or Mary? Graves?] b: ABT. 1730 d: BEF. 1799
    2 George {8-#56858\23-#9532-#68034} Harris b: ABT. 1750 d: 3 MAY 1824
      + Sarah "Sally" Hudson b: ABT. 1755 d: 3 JUL 1826
        3 Graves {8-#56858\23-#9532-#68034} Harris b: ABT. 1773 d: MAY 1849
          + Elizabeth Wheeler b: ABT. 1780 d: MAY 1851
            4 Wheeler Overton {8-#56858\23-#9532-68034} Harris b: ABT. 1807 d: 1883
              + Rosanna "Rosa" Collins b: ABT. 1810 d: 4 APR 1867
                5 Albert "Abner" {23-#9532-#68034} Harris b: 31 DEC 1826 d: 16 DEC 1898
                  + Margaret Willoughby b: 1832 d: 1879
                    6 James C. {23-#9532} Harris b: 20 AUG 1861 d: ABT. 1946
                      + Mary Elizabeth Griffith b: 1875 d: 1925
                        7 Woodrow Riley {23-#9532} Harris b: 2 APR 1909 d: 29 JAN 1994
                          + Waneta F. Hopkins b: 21 FEB 1910 d: 27 DEC 1996

(Source: http://www.harrisdna.org/info/9532.html; DESCENDANTS OF WILLIAM HARRIS, FATHER OF GRAVES HARRIS, OF VA: http://www.gravesfa.org/gen536.htm, accessed 5/17/2005; http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~langolier/PS71/PS71_392.HTML, accessed 4/4/2005; Couts Family Web Page, Vol. 6 #3 (2002): http://www.coutsfamily.com/news24.htm, accessed 6/20/2005; Records of Gary Bishop on Rootsweb's WorldConnect site: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2682715, accessed 7/13/2006; 1830 Lafayette Co, MO page 255; 1840 Lafayette Co, MO page 160; 1850 Lafayette Co, MO page 205A; 1860 Lafayette Co, MO page 383; 1870 Daviess Co, MO page 246B; 1880 Daviess Co, MO ED234-18; Will of George Harris found in Warren County, Kentucky Order Book C, 1823-1827; Ballard Family Files on GenCircles: http://www.gencircles.com/users/fballard/1, accessed 10/9/2005)

Go to the HARRIS Y-DNA RESULTS Page

Go to the Harris Surname DNA Study on FTDNA

For information on additional family members in this line, go to SOME EARLY HARRISES AND POSSIBLE DNA CONNECTIONS


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