Jackie Gray <lanjgray@pacbell.net>

I just wanted to get this family on record somewhere in case there is
someone out there looking for these ancestors, Ike and Patience Venable
 (spelled Venerable in the census records)
Mary Jane Venable Bramblett was my Great Grandmother. These are all notes
from my database. I have looked around in the census records for any
children of these two and haven't found any with theVenable name. Thier
tombstones are still in very good shape I hear.
Jacqueline Gray
 

Name:    Ike Venable
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Birth:    1844    Place: SC
Death:    1913    Place: Murray CO, GA Age: 69
Burial:    1913    Place: Springplace cemetery
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Spouse:    Patience Venable
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Birth:    1832    Place: ..GA...............................
Death:    1919    Place: Springplace Murray, GA Age: 87
Burial:    ............................    Place: Spring Place Cem.
Occupation:    Housekeeper
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Notes for Ike Venable
Martha Welch Venable  mentions in a letter to her daughter in 1913 that Ike
has just suffered Sunstroke, and then in the next letter that he had passed
away.
(The GA Mortality records show Ike Venable dying in Murray CO, GA on Oct 4,
1923)
 She also says² He was the best Christian she ever saw² Ike was a former
Venable slave.  He made a breadbowl out of a cottonwood  tree as a wedding
present  for Fannie May Bramblett & George Arnold. This was used to make
³biscuit², and pie dough  every day of the week up in the mountain of new
Mexico where they homesteaded.  (I have this bowl)
Ike is also listed in GA death records as having died on Oct 4, 1923??

The 1880 Murray CO, Doolittle District shows:
Isaac Venerable farm labor, age 36 (born 1844) Born in SC, both parents born
in SC  Ike cannot read or write.
Patience Venerable, keeping house, age 48,  (born 1832) born GA, Father born
GA, mother born MD. Census shows Patience cannot write, but can read. (See
her letter in files which disproves her not being able to write.)
Harkloh (sp?) Elizabeth, niece, age 8, born GA, both parents also born GA (I
couldn't make out this spelling too well)
 

Notes for Patience Venable
At one time before the Civil War, James M. Venable had a few slaves.
Sometime before the war started he freed those slaves, but Ike & Patience
took the Venable name & stayed with the family.They stayed with Martha
Venable, James' wife  until  Fanny Venable & her husband Hurley Owens moved
to their own place at Hawkins Mill, Ike & Patience went with them.  Fanny¹s
eyesight had always been poor. Fanny and Hurley eventually moved away and
Ike and Patience stayed in Murray CO.

Patience would have been 30 yrs old at start of Civil War She died at age 88
and is buried in the Spring Place Cem, Here¹s a letter from her to Mary Jane
Venable Bramblett (dau of James M. Venable), obviously in response to one
written to her from Mary Jane.
 

         Spring Place, GA
                                Jan 14, 1911

    My Dear Mrs. Bramblett

         I havent words to express my self when I try to write you and say I
was glad to hear from you and to thank you for the remembrance especially
the picture. you couldn¹t have sent me anything I would rather have than
that picture

          We are very well for people of our age and are doing very well.
Still live in the same house where we lived when you were here last. haven¹t
made very good crops for the last two years, it rained too much. We send
howdy and love to all the family and also to Stephens family. I havent  been
in to see your Mother for some time but I see Charlie often and always ask
about her. Tell Stephens I would like to have some of his children pictures
to.

            Well I¹ll close and hope to hear from you all again. Your
devoted friends Isaac and Patient Venerable.
 

. Both Patience and Isaac are buried In Spring Place Cemetery, the only
blacks in a white cemetery. Issac, no birth or death dates. Patience
Venable was born in 1832 and died in 1919
Notes from various letters pertaining to Ike and Patience: 1914 "poor old
Ike had another sunstroke the 24th, the day after we left there. C. F.
writes there is no hope for his recovery. He is the best Christian I ever
saw. I brought the old clock Uncle Ike gave me.  Aunt Patience gave me the
last quilt she ever pieced.  I hoped he would live on and on forever for
Aunt Patience sake."
 " Sept 18, 1919 "Aunt Patience was buried the day before I got back from
Fannie's" Jan 17, 1920 "I forgot if I wrote you about Patience. I'll send
what was in the paper" (Martha  VenableWelch Durham)