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Joanna Coldiron??

Notes courtesy of Carolynn Waldon:

1. Correspondence in 1963 from Shelt and Edna Waldon, Roby, TX [Shelt was a son of William Mathis Waldon]: "The question about Shelts grandmothers maiden name was all we no is your Aunt Ann Murdoch said it was Coldiron and that is all we no and we don't no what became of the family Bible as none of them have it so we don't no what went with it." I also had a letter from the daughter of Aunt Ann [a daughter of William Mathis Waldon] about the same time saying that Ann's grandmother's maiden name was Coldiron.

2. Conversations in 1995 in Austin, TX, with Dorothy (Caffey) Hibler and her sister Lola (Caffey) Leach, granddaughters of Alice Rachel Waldon Owens (Alice was the daughter of William Mathis Waldon and his first wife, who died before Alice was 3 years old; William didn't remarry for a couple of years.) [Comment by Carolynn: It is quite possible that these sisters, Dorothy and Lola, were confusing family stories, or maybe "blending" family stories from other grandparents' lines.] They talked about their mother's "Grandma Coldiron" (however, she would have been "Grandma Waldon" -- unless she married another time to a Coldiron -- ??), how after the death of Alice's mother (Susan Voshery Waldon) when Alice was just a young child Alice went with her Grandma Coldiron to live on the Indian reservation (maybe that was just their term for "Indian Territory" ??) until William married again. They said that "she" (Joanna?) was a full blooded Indian [Comment from Carolynn: I didn't ever hear that from anyone else in the family, so maybe they are confusing that great-grandma with one of their father's line great-grandmas. Or maybe they just thought that "Coldiron" sounded like an Indian name.]; that during the Civil War she lived on the reservation; that the Yankees kept taking everything; that the men had gone to war so she gathered her children and walked to Texas (this seemingly doesn't fit with the rest of the timeline of the family's migrations); that she had one milk cow so to keep it from getting stolen she tied a rope around it and sat on the porch, holding the rope, but she fell asleep and when she woke up the rope was cut and the cow was gone. They said that "Alice's daddy" (William M. Waldon) peddled vegetables and food on the Indian reservation and met his second wife that way. (It is true that the second wife, Prisilla Palestine Nichols, was raised in Arkansas almost on the Oklahoma border. According to her widow's pension application, William and Prisilla were married in Scott County, AR, in 1874. Then their first child (Hollis's grandfather, John Pleasant Waldon) was born in 1875 "under a covered wagon as they crossed Indian Territory on their way to Texas.")

Following are some points [Carolynn] developed in an email to Marilynn Deatherage in September 1997:

"Although I don't have any documentation for Joanna's being a daughter of George and Susan Coldiron and a sister to James H. Coldiron who md. Phamy Onstott and to Rachel Coldiron who md. John D. Onstott and to Nancy Coldiron who was living with Onstotts at the time of one of the censuses, circumstantial evidence is quite strong. 
1. James H., Rachel, Nancy, and Joanna were all born in KY. 
2. Joanna named her daughters Susan, Rachel, Nancy, and Phamy--names of the Coldiron girls (plus a sister-in-law) and the mother. 
3. On the 1840 census of Newton Co., MO, (the northern part of which became a part of Jasper County) Geo. Coldiron (father of James H. Coldiron and Rachel and Nancy) is on page 256; a James Walding (could be for Waldon) age 30-40, wife age 20-30, and 2 females under age 5 on page 246A; an Eldridge Waldon age 40-50 is on page 259; and Abraham Onstott is on page 255. Coldiron, Bijah State: Missouri Year: 1840 County: Clark Roll: M704_221 Township: Jackson Page: 338 Image: 334
4. On the 1850 census James and Joanna Waldon and family were in Jackson township in Jasper County, MO, where the Onstotts were. 
5. On the 1820 census of Harlan County, KY, in the family of Geo. Coldiron there are 3 females age 1-9, into which category Joanna would fit, having been born about 1814 (calculated from the 1850 census). The 1-9 years of ages would put the girls in the 1811-1819 range for year of birth. 
6. On the 1830 census of Harlan County, KY, in the family of Geo. Coldiron there are 2 females ages 15-19, into which category Joanna would fit, having been born about 1814 (calculated from the 1850 census). The 15-19 years of ages would put the girls in the 1811 to 1815 range for year of birth. 
7. I think that Joanna fit nicely into George and Susan Coldiron's family. [end of email to Otto Coldiron]

Mr. Coldiron has written a book (published in 1997) on the "Coldiron Family Genealogy." He didn't have Joanna in the book, but he wrote to me [Carolynn]:

"This query has caused me to look at George & Susan's family closely once again, and I note that we probably have not accounted for all of their children. First, let me tell you what we have as their family: 
George Coldiron, b. abt 1783, Rowan County, NC 
Susan (his wife; nothing else known) 
C1 - James Henry Coldiron, b. 1815, Knox Co., KY 
C2 - Bijah Coldiron, b. 1817, Knox Co., KY 
C3 - Rachel Coldiron, b. 1819, Harlan Co., KY (Harlan formed in 1819 from Knox) 
C4 - Jacob Coldiron, b. 1827, Harlan Co., KY 
C5 - Nancy M. Coldiron, b. 1831, Harlan Co., KY 
C6 - William Coldiron, b. abt 1831, Tennessee

Now, here's where it gets interesting. The 1820 Harlan Co., KY census has George's family as follows: 1 male under 10, 1 male 26-45, 3 females under 10, and 1 female 26-45. The older male and older female are George and Nancy, presumably. The young male is presumably James Henry Coldiron -- we have lots of documentation on him and his married family. And that leads us to the young daughters. As you will note from the above list of children, we only have one girl born before 1820 and that's Rachel. Who are the other two in the 1820 census? Could one be Joanna or Catherine? Possibly, but I just don't have any evidence of that. And another question the census raises, if Bijah was a son and he was born in 1817, why are there not two males under 10 in the census? These are the kinds of puzzles that drive genealogists mad. It's too bad that it was 1850 before all names in the household were recorded. The names in George & Nancy's household were not recorded in 1820, and after they migrated to Missouri, we may have lost track of some of the children. One that we lost track of could have been Joanna (or Catherine)."