Cub_2 says, lets get started ok? angelbear_s says, thanks marie Marieclassof86 says, k vickyal_124 says, k angelbear_s says, k lookin_back_2 says, k sealin2 says, okie-dokie Aunt_Jay says, Thanks Marie Marieclassof86 says, yw everyone Cub_2 says, does anyone have questions for me about their pages? sealin2 says, ty, Marie Cub_2 says, I know Marie has been a lot of help to everyone too.... sealin2 says, no, sir...I finally got mine to work Aunt_Jay says, good sites angelbear_s says, yes she has sealin2 says, and ty Marie for the NY URLs vickyal_124 says, i think i got mine halfway to work ladyfish86 says, yeah, did you figure mine out yet cub? Aunt_Jay says, Cub you said I have repeated a tag that I didn't have to Cub_2 says, Tonight, I am gonna give you some new attributes to some tags we already have Cub_2 says, I also have a couple new tags Aunt_Jay says, It doesn't seem to be hurting but should I remove the extra tags anyway Cub_2 says, it depends on the tag AJ... Tags like FONT and CENTER could cause a problem Aunt_Jay says, ok Cub_2 says, ok, I want everyone to take a look at this site... Its kinda what your pages will look like after this weeks class.... Cub_2 says, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gcf2000/Education/HTML/state.html Cub_2 says, It has a background, different link text colors Cub_2 says, It also contains what is called an Unordered List.. This is what is putting the dots in front of the basic links Cub_2 says, and I have removed all the CENTER tags from the page... Cub_2 says, and added one called DIV Cub_2 says, anyone have any questions before we get into it? sealin2 says, rh Cub_2 says, yes sealin? sealin2 says, I see lots of little squares between the letters sealin2 says, that right?? Cub_2 says, does anyone else see that? lookin_back_2 says, no ladyfish86 says, no sealin2 says, actually one box between each letter Aunt_Jay says, no vickyal_124 says, no Aunt_Jay says, no boxes sealin2 says, should I try to reload it? angelbear_s says, no Cub_2 says, yes Cub_2 says, there should be a kind of beige background sealin2 says, still there...brownish beige background, though Cub_2 says, go ahead and open your state page Aunt_Jay says, what color did you use for that , it looks like taupe Cub_2 says, dont know why sealin.. has to do with your browser I think Cub_2 says, Its not a color AJ, its a background image Aunt_Jay says, ok Cub_2 says, Background is going to be the first attribute we learn tonight Cub_2 says, it is an attribute of the BODY tag... Cub_2 says, so who can tell me where we would put it? Aunt_Jay says, rh Cub_2 says, AJ Aunt_Jay says, after Body Cub_2 says, more specific please lookin_back_2 says, rh Cub_2 says, lookin lookin_back_2 says, inside the body tag sealin2 says, in the brackets/ Aunt_Jay says, Like where we put background color Cub_2 says, yes Cub_2 says, inside the opening BODY tag Cub_2 says, Does anyone not know what a URL is? Aunt_Jay says, rh Cub_2 says, aj Aunt_Jay says, what we call addresses? Cub_2 says, yes... it is the full address to something Cub_2 says, the URL for the library main page is http://www.genealogchatfriends.org Aunt_Jay says, Hi jl ladyfish86 says, hi jl sealin2 says, [hi, jlegge jleggeusa says, hi aunt jay angelbear_s says, hi jl jleggeusa says, hi sealin vickyal_124 says, hi jl an doggie Cub_2 says, the URL for the library logo is http://www.genealogychatfriends.org/Images/gcflogo.jpg jleggeusa says, hi lady jleggeusa says, hi sealin Cub_2 says, a URL does not have to point to a web page.... jleggeusa says, hi shadow Cub_2 says, and techinically, I dont believe the URL has the http:// part Cub_2 says, so it would start with the www. Cub_2 says, does everyone understand that? ladyfish86 says, yes vickyal_124 says, yes lookin_back_2 says, y angelbear_s says, yes Aunt_Jay says, y jleggeusa says, yes Marieclassof86 says, yes Cub_2 says, the http:// specifies how the computers should access the URL Marieclassof86 says, rh Cub_2 says, http = Hyper Text Transfer Protocol Cub_2 says, M? Marieclassof86 says, what about the addys that start off like http://freepages...... Marieclassof86 says, and don't have the www Cub_2 says, the URL would start at the freepages Marieclassof86 says, k Marieclassof86 says, just wondered Cub_2 says, the http:// is still the transfer method Cub_2 says, another transfer method is the dreaded ftp:// Cub_2 says, or File Transfer Protocol Cub_2 says, There are a bunch of different transfer methods or Protocols Cub_2 says, I want you to understand this so you know what to enter when I say enter a URL Cub_2 says, now, in your state page. I want you to add a BACKGROUND attribute Cub_2 says, using the HTTP transfer method to the following URL Cub_2 says, www.genealogychatfriends.org/Images/wall.jpg Cub_2 says, once you think you have it entered correctly, let me know in the room.. when everyone is done, I will show what it should look like Cub_2 says, no fair cheating by looking at the source of the state.html page Aunt_Jay says, I have to remove background color too? Cub_2 says, you dont have to Aunt_Jay says, ok Cub_2 says, but the background will take precedence sealin2 says, is it supposed to be black?? Cub_2 says, is what supposed to be black? sealin2 says, the background? Cub_2 says, no lookin_back_2 says, got it but don't understand angelbear_s says, ok got it Cub_2 says, it should be the same as what you see on the state.html page I showed you earlier vickyal_124 says, mine looks blue Aunt_Jay says, I did it wrong I guess angelbear_s says, mine looks taupe Aunt_Jay says, I did BG= and the URL Aunt_Jay says, what should I have done instead ladyfish86 says, me too aj angelbear_s says, ok can we do that way too? Cub_2 says, everyone have it entered? ladyfish86 says, no angelbear_s says, yes Aunt_Jay says, mine doesn't work at all lookin_back_2 says, y jleggeusa says, ok angelbear_s says, but i spelled out bg Cub_2 says, I dont want to wait for it to be right.. just entered sealin2 says, I have it entered but it isn't working yet Aunt_Jay says, If it doesn't do anything how do we know if it is right vickyal_124 says, i went from blue to white again after i fixed it ho hum Cub_2 says, the attribute name should be BACKGROUND not BG Aunt_Jay says, ok Cub_2 says, those that have BG change it now vickyal_124 says, i did ladyfish86 says, entered vickyal_124 says, went from a blue background to a white one again Aunt_Jay says, did not help Cub_2 says, did it fix anyones? sealin2 says, bingo! ladyfish86 says, no Aunt_Jay says, I tried taking off the color I had and now it is white Cub_2 says, ok.. what should be after the attribute name? vickyal_124 says, i got mine you have to have the http: vickyal_124 says, or it wont show the color lookin_back_2 says, I had to put the http://in front of the www jleggeusa says, i did too Cub_2 says, hello... angelbear_s says, i put < BODY BACKGROUND="http://www.genealogychatfriends.org/Images/wall.jpg" > and it worked sealin2 says, ="HTTP:// AND THE url Aunt_Jay says, that works, I put in the http:// angelbear_s says, is that the way we should do it Cub_2 says, ok.. folks.. lets slow down just a bit, I dont want to get people confused angelbear_s says, it did not work with out the http:// lookin_back_2 says, too late Cub_2 says, and I want to make sure people understand what they are doing Aunt_Jay says, it works now with the http:// Cub_2 says, so do what I say or answer the questions I have, and then wait... vickyal_124 says, non of ours did angel Cub_2 says, please? Aunt_Jay says, ok sealin2 says, ok Marieclassof86 says, k angelbear_s says, ok lookin_back_2 says, k ladyfish86 says, i have a square of tan instead of purple background Cub_2 says, everyone could have had a different problem and once we tell everyone the right way, they dont know what was wrong Cub_2 says, what comes after the attribute name? angelbear_s says, rh Cub_2 says, angel angelbear_s says, background Cub_2 says, no Aunt_Jay says, Hi bdowns lookin_back_2 says, rh Cub_2 says, looking lookin_back_2 says, = angelbear_s says, hi bdowns bdowns_1999 says, Hi Aunt Jay Cub_2 says, yes Cub_2 says, what is the word background? bdowns_1999 says, Hi angel sealin2 says, rh Cub_2 says, sealin sealin2 says, the attribute Cub_2 says, the attribute name Cub_2 says, is the = required? why or why not ladyfish86 says, rh Cub_2 says, lf ladyfish86 says, yes..... to tell you what color should be used ladyfish86 says, nevermind that isnt right Cub_2 says, what are the 3 parts to an attribute? Cub_2 says, 1. attribute name Cub_2 says, 2. assignment type.. here almost always = Cub_2 says, 3. attribute value... Cub_2 says, name=value Cub_2 says, everyone understand? lookin_back_2 says, y vickyal_124 says, yep Cub_2 says, all 3 make un the attribute... Marieclassof86 says, y Aunt_Jay says, yees Cub_2 says, so the attribute name is background Cub_2 says, the assignment type is = Cub_2 says, and the value is an http method to a URL Cub_2 says, what is the value we entered for the attribute? ladyfish86 says, rh Cub_2 says, lf ladyfish86 says, = Cub_2 says, nope Aunt_Jay says, rh Cub_2 says, thats the assignment type Cub_2 says, aj sealin2 says, "http://www.genealogychatfriends.org/Images/wall.jpg Aunt_Jay says, the URL Cub_2 says, sealin you forgot something sealin2 says, closing" Cub_2 says, yep sealin2 says, I hit the return instead Cub_2 says, so the entire attribute should be the following less the spaces jleggeusa is away (Auto-Away) Cub_2 says, BACKGROUND="http://www.genealogychatfriends.org/Images/wall.jpg" Cub_2 says, BACKGROUND="http: // www.genealogychatfriends.org/Images/wall.jpg" Cub_2 says, now, if you have the BGCOLOR attribute in your BODY tag, Cub_2 says, your page will be that color if you entered the BACKGROUND attribute wrong Cub_2 says, that is why some had blue pages, etc.... Cub_2 says, and when you took it out, it turned the default background color or white Cub_2 says, does everyone understand? Aunt_Jay says, think so sealin2 says, yes vickyal_124 says, yes i understand angelbear_s says, rh Cub_2 says, angel ladyfish86 says, yes Aunt_Jay says, I didn't have the " in mine and it worked anyway. I have fixed it now angelbear_s says, i took the body part out and now my page is white Cub_2 says, what body part? angelbear_s says, i told you earlier angelbear_s says, i had < body background etc > Cub_2 says, what is the word BODY angelbear_s says, that worked but without it my page is white angelbear_s says, body was my attitribute Cub_2 says, anyone tell her wy? Cub_2 says, why? ladyfish86 says, rh Cub_2 says, lf sealin2 says, white is the default page color? angelbear_s says, i have body by itself ladyfish86 says, the background has to be inside the body tag Aunt_Jay says, Body is the tag Cub_2 says, yep Cub_2 says, BODY is the TAG, not an Attribute angelbear_s says, so do we leave in the body or not vickyal_124 says, should have Cub_2 says, BACKGROUND is an attribute of the BODY tag Aunt_Jay says, the background is attribute Aunt_Jay says, sorry i type slow Cub_2 says, so yes, you have to have the BACKGROUND within the BODY tag angelbear_s says, i did not see you say that - sorry Cub_2 says, I didnt say take out the tag Cub_2 says, I said take out the BGCOLOR attribute Cub_2 says, sealin2 says, LOL, Cub_2 says, ok, that probably took up quite a bit of space on your line in your file right? Aunt_Jay says, Cub needs a little bull whip to keep us all in line? ladyfish86 says, yes angelbear_s says, sorry when you said BACKGROUND="http://www.genealogychatfriends.org/Images/wall.jpg" i thought you wanted me to change it Cub_2 says, making you have to scroll in your notepad sealin2 says, yes vickyal_124 says, y Cub_2 says, what can you do to cut it down some? Cub_2 says, to make it not as wide on that line lookin_back_2 is back. lookin_back_2 says, rh Cub_2 says, lookin Aunt_Jay says, rh lookin_back_2 says, shorten the URL Cub_2 says, nope Cub_2 says, aj? Aunt_Jay says, you can put it on two lines and it won't affect anything with ou the Cub_2 says, you can split it onto a different line yes... Cub_2 says, if you put the BR tag in, what do you think would happen? Aunt_Jay says, that is a better way of saying it Aunt_Jay says, rh Cub_2 says, aj Aunt_Jay says, mess it up since the Aunt_Jay means new line Cub_2 says, well.. try it and see, I am not 100% sure, but it will either ignore the BR or ignore the background Cub_2 says, or error out because you cant have one tag inside another Cub_2 says, so split your body tag onto 2 lines just before th background attribute Cub_2 says, and then add a Cub_2 after the word BODY and see what happens vickyal_124 says, shows the url on page an goes back to white vickyal_124 says, if you do that ladyfish86 says, thats what i got vicky ladyfish86 says, i took the br back out Aunt_Jay says, The background doesn't appear sealin2 says, please..I got disconnected...what did i miss/ Aunt_Jay says, Take out the BR and all is well again ladyfish86 says, yep Cub_2 says, thats because the > after the BR makes it think the BODY tag is complete Cub_2 says, did you hear the talk about splitting your body tag? ladyfish86 says, no sealin2 says, no, I didn't angelbear_s says, rh Cub_2 says, well, I will catch you up after class for that Cub_2 says, angel? angelbear_s says, what would be the purpose sealin2 says, why wouldn't you want to scroll in the notepad/ Cub_2 says, cause I HATE scrolling Cub_2 says, ladyfish86 says, im losing it angelbear_s says, who would be looking ladyfish86 says, lol Cub_2 says, I like to see it all on one page Cub_2 says, its personal preference angelbear_s says, who looks at our notepad? sealin2 says, Oh, I see..ty Cub_2 says, but what I want you to know is that you CAN split attributes to a tag onto different lines Cub_2 says, you do when you are editing it angel Cub_2 says, thats why its personal preference angelbear_s says, ok ty Cub_2 says, ok... Cub_2 says, the next thing I want to talk about is the LINK VLINK and ALINK attributes of the BODY tag Cub_2 says, these are 3 different attributes Cub_2 says, each one will have the name, assignment and value Cub_2 says, the LINK attribute sets the color of an unvisited link Cub_2 says, the VLINK sets the color of a visited link Cub_2 says, and ALINK sets the color of an Active Link Cub_2 says, I will explain what that is in a bit Cub_2 says, the value of these attributes is a color.... Cub_2 says, up till now, we have used a name for color Cub_2 says, and I know you have been talking about color codes so we can get into that now Cub_2 says, each color is made up of 3 colors... red blue and green (RGB) Cub_2 says, RGB Cub_2 says, you can specify colors by setting values for each of these Cub_2 says, the values can be from 00 to FF Cub_2 says, This is getting into a computer term called hexidecimal Cub_2 says, hexadecimal Cub_2 says, the numbering system we have uses a decimal based on the numbers 0 - 9 Cub_2 says, once you get to 9, you add one to the left and start over with 0 sealin2 says, 00 not OO Cub_2 says, in hex, you are based on the numbrs 0-9 and the letters A-F Cub_2 says, zero zero Cub_2 says, so in hex, the next value is A Cub_2 says, it gives you up to 16 numbers for each position Cub_2 says, does that make sense? Cub_2 says, not the reasoning, just that it does vickyal_124 says, yea sealin2 says, yes, instead of base ten using base 16 Cub_2 says, to specify a color for an attribute, you need to specify 4 things Cub_2 says, actually, I think its 3.. Cub_2 says, we will have to see Cub_2 says, the first thing is a # Aunt_Jay says, rh Cub_2 says, then 3 sets of 2 hex numbers Cub_2 says, AJ Aunt_Jay says, how are the numbers and letters used together? Cub_2 says, i will get to that in aminute Aunt_Jay says, ok Cub_2 says, after the # (and I dont think that is required) is 6 numbers Cub_2 says, 2 each for Red Green and Blue Cub_2 says, by entering these values, you are setting the hue of the color. Cub_2 says, what you end up with is a hexadecimal value for a color Cub_2 says, the value 000000 is black... or the absence of color Cub_2 says, the value FFFFFF is white... the combination of all colors Cub_2 says, and you have thousands of combinations between angelbear_s says, rh Cub_2 says, Marie posted a link to a color template at the beginning of class Cub_2 says, there are a lot of those on the net, and they usually are a grid of colored squares Cub_2 says, and the hex value Cub_2 says, angel angelbear_s says, can everyone see the color combos? or are some "blind" vickyal_124 says, http://cedesign.net/colors.htm is the one i use Cub_2 says, there are 256 'Web Safe' colors Cub_2 says, these are viewable by all browsers... Cub_2 says, if you use one outside of that, most browsers will display it, but could be different Cub_2 says, especially on older monitors Marieclassof86 says, http://kresch.com/resources/browser_safe.htm angelbear_s says, ok ty Cub_2 says, like VGA or EGA monitors Cub_2 says, if you use one of these, it will still be displayed, only in a color that the monitor can handle Cub_2 says, so it would show, just be a slightly different color. Cub_2 says, anyplace in your web page that you use a color, you can specify it by the hex value Cub_2 says, It will be more accurate to use hex values because the browser doesnt interpret the word to a colore Cub_2 says, different browsers could interpret the word BLUE into different hex values angelbear_s says, hi dslacourse Aunt_Jay says, Hi DSL € DSLaCourse says, Hi everyone.. didnt mean to distrube the class Cub_2 says, I talked about LINK.. that is the color for a link BEFORE you have visited it Cub_2 says, its ok dsl, we are almost done Cub_2 says, once you have clicked on it, it will change to the VLINK color € DSLaCourse says, Thanks Cub I'll just sit and watch Cub_2 says, that is why when you click on a link, it changes color Aunt_Jay says, rh Cub_2 says, the ALINK is used when you have multiple links on a page... Cub_2 says, AJ Aunt_Jay says, we didn't program the changes into our page but they happen, is that a default of the browser Cub_2 says, yes Aunt_Jay says, I didn't know if I used the right words Cub_2 says, it is done so you can tell what links you have visited and what links you have not Cub_2 says, there are default colors for each of these... Aunt_Jay says, thanks Cub_2 says, by specifing them, we are changing the defaults Cub_2 says, now, when you are on a page that contains a number of links.. like our indexes Cub_2 says, and you press the tab key, you can see the different links being selected Cub_2 says, that 'selects' or activates that link.. meaning if you press the enter key it will be like clicking on it Cub_2 says, jump to your page and press the tab key a few times.. you should see the links change color as you do Cub_2 says, does everyone see what I mean? angelbear_s says, yes ladyfish86 says, no vickyal_124 is back. vickyal_124 says, moves but doesnt change colors just gets a white box around it Cub_2 says, lf are you on NS? sealin2 says, mine does the same as Vicky's ladyfish86 says, no ladyfish86 says, IE vickyal_124 says, in on NS Aunt_Jay says, Where should the cursor be when the tab is pushed? sealin2 says, NS here Cub_2 says, it doesnt matter when the pointer is at.. Cub_2 says, the cursor jumps to the active link Cub_2 says, or active object on the page... it doesnt have to be a link Cub_2 says, I will show you lady what i mean after class.. I want to finish up soon Aunt_Jay says, I see it scrolls down the page Cub_2 says, the ALINK attribute sets the link color when it is active Cub_2 says, without it, your ALINK could be ste the same as one of the others Cub_2 says, what I want you to do.. is add these 3 attributes to your BODY tag Cub_2 says, for now, specify the LINK value as BLUE, the VLINK as RED and the ALINK as GREEN Cub_2 says, so your BODY tag is growing more... Aunt_Jay says, do we need any " in this? Cub_2 says, it is not required, but it doesnt hurt to use it Aunt_Jay says, around the color names? Cub_2 says, that is where it would be, yes Aunt_Jay says, ok angelbear_s says, ok got it lookin_back_2 is back. lookin_back_2 says, K sealin2 says, by color name, do you mean color hex codE? Cub_2 says, no, use the color name for now Cub_2 says, I want you to use these to get an idea of the different colors when you tab through them sealin2 says, got them Aunt_Jay says, got red links that blink green when I push them Cub_2 says, green is your ALINK right? Aunt_Jay says, yes vickyal_124 says, me 2 AJ Cub_2 says, so when you click it, it firsts becomes the Active link Marieclassof86 says, they are red cause you have visited them Cub_2 says, it starts red because you have already been there angelbear_s says, i never understood that before - thanks Cub_2 says, vicky, yours are turning green too? vickyal_124 says, yes Cub_2 says, how about when you tab through them? ladyfish86 says, mine are turning green too vickyal_124 says, no but if click on them they turn green for a split second sealin2 says, mine are only green when I press them, then turn red sealin2 says, vicky & I are in Netscape Aunt_Jay says, when tab, the one in the lower left corner turns green Cub_2 says, what are your alink and vlink values sealin? Aunt_Jay says, the only blue is the name of the categories and that is because I have text blue sealin2 says, alink is greedn and vlink is re sealin2 says, dthe is green not greedn Cub_2 says, ok, yes, when you press them, they will turn green.. that should happen to everyone sealin2 says, and vlink is red ladyfish86 says, cool Cub_2 says, once you come back from it, it should be red Cub_2 says, ok... enough for this week Cub_2 says, what I want you to do for the next week, is to find a background image you like sealin2 says, will you be able to tell me what I missed about the split noW? Cub_2 says, for your page... Aunt_Jay says, would the only links that would be blue be ones we just entered but have not tried yet? angelbear_s says, when i come back to the page that link is green Cub_2 says, depends on your text color AJ.. if your text is blue, it will be hard to tell what is link and what is header Cub_2 says, do you have vlink=green or vlink=red? Aunt_Jay says, ok I will change text to black and checkit Cub_2 says, You can use just about any jpg or gif as your background image angelbear_s says, v=red a=green Marieclassof86 says, well isn't it good for them to be red...cause the means we have visited them..and hopefully we are checking out the links Cub_2 says, but I would suggest you find one that is not busy or not too bright
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