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The drawing below depicts the lifespans of several men named Charles Oliver who lived in Georgia about 1827 or earlier. There may be more. The dots represent the birth of their children. The vertical lines represent a record that documents their presence in that place at that time.
I compiled this information because I wondered if my ancestor Augustus Oliver, who was born in Georgia in 1818 might be the son of one of these men since his mother was named Margaret. Since I began, a Y DNA project started and it would seem that the Y DNA data do not fit for Charles A. L. B. Oliver having all the wives that some genealogists once suggested. Perhaps there was a Charles A. L. B. and a Charles A. L. R. or some other reason that so many initials were used by this man or men?
The four colors on the map of Georgia symbolize the places that at least 4 different Charles Oliver men lived during that period.
The data below are divided into 4 sections and are attached to the individual to whom I believe they pertain. At this point I have no wills and this would help immensely. If you have other information that shows I am in error and are willing to share that, please email me at email@example.com. I have included data I could find on the wives and immediate families of these men as well. Again I may have attached the wife to her family in error, but based on date and place, these are the best assumptions I could make.
Many of the records cited below have been transcribed by someone and are not in the original handwriting. Some of the census are original handwriting. I do not believe that there was consistent use of middle initials. If there had been then they would have been easier to sort out. Even Charles has been recorded as C., Chas., Charles and Charley. The use of these initials at times suggests to me that some may have known each other and therefore tried to maintain separate identity this way but it may just have been a personal preference.
This Charles Oliver was married to Mary Marshall at the time of his death in Pike County, but had been married previously before 1804. Since the marriage files for Jasper Co. begin in 1808, this marriage would not be listed. One person has indicated a date of death of 1836 on www.ancestry.com which I can't prove but which fits. He had 13 children over the course of his life. Some were born in Jasper County and the last several were born after he moved to Pike County. One of those born in Pike County was named Charles Washington Oliver who also named a son Charles. His wife Mary was still alive in 1870 and living with Charles Washington Oliver.
This Charles and the one in Ware County were both censused in 1830, proving they are not the same. They were both having children during the early 1930's.
1820 Census, Jasper County
1830 Census, Pike County, GA
Children's Marriages include:
Jasper Co. GA Marriage Book does not begin until 1808
Pike County Marriages
1840 Census, Pike County, GA
Pike Co. Georgia Census
Born about 1770 and likely died not long after 1827 in Burke Co., GA. He is listed as an idiot in 1827 which probably suggests he was senile by then. He is also listed as "Senior or Sr." there which suggests he is the father of another Charles Oliver. Whether it is one of these four, is unknown. He is not old enough to be the father of the Charles Oliver of Jasper and Pike County and the Charles of Ware County lists himself as from South Carolina in later censuses. There were very few Olivers in Georgia in 1790 so it is likely that Thomas, William and James (Jas.) are his relatives.
This Charles and the one in Warren County were both living in their respective counties in 1827 for the land lottery, proving they are not the same.
In 1790 in Burke County, GA: Oliver, Chas.; Oliver, Thos., Oliver, Wm. as Tax-Defaulters 1790-1793, published in the Augusta Chronicle and Gazette. Oliver, Jas. received a Headright grant between 1790 & 1795. (according to: Early Georgia Settlers, 1700s-1800s)
1827 Land Lottery GA
This Charles Oliver was thought to have been born about 1780. He is believed to have lived in Warren County, GA from the time he married Susan Templin in 1800 in Warren County, GA to his death about 1829. He married Susan Templin and they had a daughter Emily about 1810 and seemingly no other children. Perhaps Susan died then. He remarried Margaret Oliver shortly after she moved to Madison County, AL with her family from TN in 1817 in AL. It is possible that he met her through her relative Thomas Howard of Warren County and we believe they were living in one household in 1820. Margaret and Charles had 7 children. He died by 1830 and Margaret moved their family back to Madison County, AL. She did not remarry but moved in with her son Augustus by 1850 and is believed to have died by 1855 in AL. His daughter Emily and her family had joined Augustus's family and Margaret by 1845 in AL.
This Charles and the one in Burke County were both living in their respective counties in 1827 for the land lottery, proving they are not the same. An entry regarding Charles A. L. B. Oliver and his family in the PIONEER WIREGRASS OF GA, VOL 10, PAGE 330 TO 333 states that he was having children with Eliza Cushing during the years that this Oliver was having children with Margaret Howard.
WARREN COUNTY, GA - Marriages 1699 to 1805
Emily Oliver was born in 1810 and married Winship S. Page of Upson County GA between 1830 and 1835. Pike Co. was taken from Monroe in 1822 and then Upson taken from Pike in 1824. She is thought to be the daughter of Charles Oliver and Sarah Templin.
Upson County GA 1840 census Roll 52 Book 1, Page 22a, District 470
(he follows James Page and Leonard Page)
Madison County, AL - Marriages
1820 Census of Warren County, no Twp. p. 279
1827 Land Lottery GA
Margaret Howard Oliver
Census Year: 1830 State: Alabama County: Madison Page No: 76
Reel no: M19-4 Division: Northern District of Alabama; Enumerated by: Henry Stokes on 31 November 1830; Transcribed by Linda Doty for USGenWeb, http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/. Copyright: 2001
Census Year: 1840 State: Alabama County: Madison Page No: 132
Reel no: M704-13 Division: Northern District of Alabama being the North half of Madison County Enumerated by: Benjamin B. Rogers ; Transcribed by Linda Doty for USGenWeb, http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/. Copyright: 2001
Chambers County, Alabama 1850 Federal Census (Part 8)
19th Dist.,Britton Stamps, Asst. Marshal; Dist. 19 1/2, J. S. Stamps, Asst. Marshal; Compiled & contributed by Penny Dodd (firstname.lastname@example.org)
1860 Census Tallapoosa Co. AL
See the excellent book "The Augustus Oliver Family" by Lucille Rucker Chessmore, 1994, #04-070830 which details the history of Augustus' children and grandchildren as he moved to Mississippi and then Texas.
1850 Federal Census Chambers County, Alabama 1850 Federal Census (Part 8) 19th Dist.,Britton Stamps
1860 Federal Census. Chambers County, Alabama, Post Office , Fredonia
I can find no trace of this family after this. Did they all die in the Civil War?
This Charles Oliver is often using the intitials A. B. but also A. L. B. His date of birth is difficult to calculate from census because he seems to gain more than 10 years between censuses! In 1860 the census recorder listed him as born in South Carolina but in 1850 it was Georgia. He seems to have spent his early years in Bulloch County, Georgia where he married Sarah Hill. They had at least 2 sons. He later married Mary Capps there and then they moved to Ware County, GA. but the sons were not living with them then. They had a family of their own in Ware County, in the part which became Clinch County. Note that they had a son Charles R. Oliver in 1833. By 1860 they moved to Duval County, Florida where his first two sons also settled.
This Charles and the one in Japer and then Pike County were both censused in 1830, proving they are not the same. They were both having children during the early 1930's. This Charles had 2 sons in mid 1820's which distinguishes him from the Charles of Warren County who was having children with Margaret Oliver throughout the 1820's, based on her census record in 1830.
See http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/f/l/o/Henry-Flowers/?Welcome=1018657613 for a biography of his later years
Information Related to His 3 Wives
Marriages of Bulloch County
There are several Hill families in Baldwin 1820-1824, and 2 in Burke in 1824 but none in Bulloch County. I am unable to attach a family to Sarah Hill.
Marriages of Baldwin County
Jane Oliver (May 2, 1800-Jan. 20,1879) & William Sheppard were living in Harris Co. GA by 1824 when their son John Harris Sheppard was born but both died in Barbour Co. GA
Barsheba Oliver and Reuben Templin were living in Hancock Co. GA in 1820 She is believed to have died in 1829 and he remarried and moved to adjacent Warren Coounty.
1820 Census, Baldwin Co. Georgia
1850 Census, Baldwin Co. Georgia Milledgeville, p. 91
1830 census Jones Co.
Is this the widowed mother of Mary Capps that married this Charles Oliver? This is the closest Capps family but there are others in Butts, Jackson, Marion, McIntosh, Rabun counties
Census Data Related to Charles Oliver
1830 census Bulloch Co., p. 93 second line
1840 Census, Ware County Georgia, District 719, Roll 52 Book 1, p. 134
If he was born between 1800 & 1810, then he could be 30-40 here
1850 Ware County Census 89 Subdivision (Free Inhabitants) 9th of Nov page 117A
Above male should be only 50 in 1850. Wife age OK. But here 2 teenage sons whereas above only 1. Daughters might fit.
1860 Duval Co. FL Census p. 306
Above male should be only 67 in 1860 and his wife Mary should be 55.
1860 Duval County FL Agricultural Census
1870 Duval Co. FL Censusp. 228 Yellow Bluff P.O.
his daughter Catherine Peterson and 2 childen are listed below him, and they are followed by his son (William) Shepherd and family
Census Data on Son's Families
There is an entry regarding this Charles and his family in the PIONEER WIREGRASS OF GA, VOL 10, PAGE 330 TO 333 which was submitted by WILLIAM F. OLIVER, JR. This entry states that this Charles had 2 sons by Eliza Cushing, James and Alfred. Both of these are found living in Florida at the time Charles was. Hamilton County was some distance from Duval County but was directly south of the portion of Ware County, GA that became Clinch Co. I have found no proof that these are sons of Eliza Cushing (or even Charles Oliver) and do not know where they were in Georgia between 1830 and 1850.
1850 Census, Hamilton County FL, District 4, p. 244
I can find no James Oliver in Hamilton or Duval County FL later. There were James Oliver in 1870 in Leon, Madison, and Walukulla counties but all are under 20.
1850 Census, Hamilton County FL, Jasper, p. 237
1860 Census, Hamilton County FL, p. 627
1860 Agricultural Census, Hamilton County FL
1870 Census, Hamilton County FLOutside of Jasper, White Springs P.O, p. 74
listed as A. Olover in the 1880 census with wife Martha born in GA, Children born in Florida: Willis L 21, Lurah 17, Clarry 13, Emer 10, Martha 4. It would appear the census taker had spelling difficulties.
1880 Census, Duval County FL, Precinct 3
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