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This is the first page in the DNA portion of this site:

1.Clan MacLeod Project Overview / 2. Clan MacLeod Project Modal Haplotype (Hypothetical) / 3. Ancestral Modal Haplotypes /

4. Understanding the Markers and Mutation Rates / 5. Our Participants Results / 6. A Closer Look at our matches / 7. Current Conclusions

NEW PAGES : Full Result Table / Sub Group B Results Table / Branching Table / LCF Rates Table / Frequently Asked Questions / Mutation Rates


The Project:

Locus
2
13
18
21
22
23
24
25
34
35
55
60
DYS#
3
9
0
4
5
8
4
4
7
4
4
9
4
6
4
a
4
6
4
b
4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
5
3
4
*
4
4
6
MacLeod Haplotype
25
16
26
31
14
15
15
16
37
37
16
15
R1b Haplogroup
24
17
25
29
15
15
17
17
36
38
15
13

Clan MacLeod Surname Project - consists of all 152 participants regardless of Haplogroup (May 29 2009)

R1b Clan MacLeod Project - consists of all 121 kits that are in the R1b Haplogroup - this group is made up of both those who are Clan members by blood and those who are Clan members by tradition. The Project Haplotype is determined by taking the most common allele at each marker across the total group (all levels of testing).

Sub Group A - R1b Clan Members by tradition - Those in this group do not match the R1b Clan MacLeod Project Haplotype within allowable distances set by FTDNA and other testing companies and are therefore said by those companies to not have shared an ancestor with the haplotype within the past 800 years. This group does not have much if any chance of a descent from the Founder or any of his many descending-paternal-lines.

At the higher levels of testing (37 and 67) these kits have distances (mutations) of 10 to 25 from the R1b Clan MacLeod Project Haplotype. These kits share few if any of the markers that are unique to the Related MacLeods found in Sub Group B (unique as it relates to the R1b Haplogroup Alleles at those markers and to the degree that they are found in each of the related kits - see above table). This sub group A consists of descendants of those who were associated by tradition with the Clan and took on the surname when that became the societal norm.

For those who do not match the Founding Group R1b or who do not match the Founding Group Haplotype at higher levels of testing, one of the following events likely took place:

1) an ancestor was fostered by the MacLeods in ancient times and upon reaching majority, either he or his descendants assumed the name of the Clan which raised him

2) the husband of a MacLeod daughter from another Clan which belongs to another haplogroup assumed the name MacLeod for purposes of holding title to an estate - or some other form of a marriage event - the children took the name of their mother's second husband - etc.

3) the name was taken because of what is referred to as "a birth event" meaning that the child was not the child of the MacLeod to whom its mother was married but of another man. This was not as unusual an event as it may appear - there are documented cases where the liaison of two folk who were not married to each other were encouraged to "breed" for political purposes.

4) for those R1b's who don't match the Founding Group Haplotype within the allowable distances, their common ancestor could have been in a generation before Leod i.e. they may descend from a first, second or third cousin of Leod himself.

5) for those R1b's who don't match the Founding Group Haplotype, it is possible that their family experienced a higher than average rate of mutation - this can be determined by the testing of additional family members to determine the age of the mutation itself (in which generation the mutation occurred).

For an excellent explanation of various haplogroups within a clan structure see the
Clan Donald Project - this link is off site - use your back button to return to this page.


Sub Group B - Related MacLeods - Those in this group match the R1b Clan MacLeod Project Modal Haplotype (taken from ALL 121 kits in the R1b portion of the project) within allowable distances set by FTDNA and other testing companies AND/or match to each other within those allowable distances. Also within this group are those who fall just outside those allowable distances because of a) Unique Mutation Events (not shared by any other kit in the project or by anyone to whom they may be related to in the project b) they ARE within allowable distances to one or more members who are within allowable distances to the haplotype. FTDNA refers to the kit they match to in the center of the project as an "in - betweener". (These "outsiders" are typically 37 -5, 37 - 6 and 37 -7 - they also typically stay within the allowable distances at the 67 marker level).

The 75 kits (May 29 2009) in this group share alleles on certain markers that are unique to the R1b Clan MacLeod Project Modal Haplotype as it relates to the R1b Haplogroup Alleles at those markers. There are currently 12 markers (3 being copies of one marker - 464) that appear unique to the MacLeod project. Of those 12 markers, CDY a and b may eventually fall away - they are unstable markers in our project and Volatile in most other surname projects but to date the majority of related kits share this 37/37 combination of alleles.

Sub Group B has essentially its own haplotype when it is removed from the R1b Clan MacLeod Project (separated from Sub Group A) and looked at as the separate group that it is.....this haplotype is currently different by one marker - 459b = 11 instead of the R1b Project Allele of 459b = 10. A second marker, 389, is an even split among the kits in this group with 22 kits @ 13/29 at this marker and 23 @ 14/30 - four kits in this group have variances of those two combinations. These two markers (389 and 459b) will hopefully clarify as the current 26 related 12 marker only kits upgrade to higher levels of testing.

Within this Sub Group B - Related MacLeods are BRANCHES - These branches can be identified a) by the Ancestral Modal Haplotypes of those who have tested with their known cousins or b) by the sharing of certain markers that MISS the R1b Clan MacLeod Project Modal Haplotype but match to each other. The ability to identify possible branches without knowledge of the ancestral haplotype is something that is only now occurring with the increase of participation - it is to be hoped that this continues and gives us greater insight to both migration patterns of the related Clan Members and individual branches as they have been formed in the 18 - 22 generations since the founder of this Sub Group.

Included in the Sub Group B - Related MacLeods are a representative of the Talisker Branch of MacLeod of Harris, a representative of the Raasay Branch of MacLeod of Lewis and three representatives of the Arnisdale/Waternish Branch of MacLeod of Harris through Norman IV of Arnisdale, the lone survivor of the massacre of the family of John the Fair Hair. There may be more representatives of additional branches but their participation has not been made public.

To date, the five known documented descendants carry the 14/30 at DYS 389 and four out of five carry an "11" at DYS 459b - should there be more documented descendants in the project whose identities are not known, perhaps one or more of them will have the 13/29 at DYS 389 which would clarify whether we are looking at two significant branching's ocurring cr. 1649 -1705 or at a "meandering" allele combination. A CADET project was underway at one time but the results of that have not been made public - it is unknown if these Cadet kits were included in OUR current project.

TMRCA predictions by FTDNA and YUtility both state that the two haplotypes - *13/29 & 10 or 11* or *14/30 & 10 or 11* - have a 95% probability of sharing an ancestor cr. 1649 - 1705 - evidence now is that the 13/29 and 14/30 combination "meanders" its way through the related paternal lines.

As to the other related kits, their paternal lines of descent prior to the early 1700's and their relationship to the above named representatives has been lost throughout recent history but is now confirmed by their matching those representatives within allowable distances and because the TMRCA is well within the timeframe and generational structure of the family tree and branches of Leod.

As the project progresses, we are beginning to see more evidence of these branching's as new kits are matching within genetic distances of 0-1 at 37 markers and at 67 markers to other kits on significant misses from the R1b Clan MacLeod Project Modal Haplotype - they miss the project modal allele but match with each other. These branches could be further clarified by the testing of known cousins of each of the kits who appear to be a branch in order to determine the age of their mutations.

R1b Subclades

Update: May 2009 - Within the R1b Haplogroup our project participants were mostly in the R1b1c subclade within the R1b Haplogroup. This has recently been renamed R1b1b2 - Seven kits in the project have had deep clade testing (deep origin - 1000's of years). As new SNP's are found, these results keep changing - eventually, all kits in the project should participate in this to determine the deep origins of the Clan MacLeod:

R1b1b2a1 - (Founder born 4500 bc) (S127-9) - 1 kit a 25-1 to the current project haplotype

R1b1b2a1b (Founder born 2500 BC) S116(P312) Celtic (now R1b1b2a1a2) 3 kits - 1 a 67-5 match to the current project haplotype, 1 a 37-15 match to the current project haplotype and 1 a 37-12.

R1b1b2a1b5 (Founder born 1500 BC) (S68) (now R1b1b2a1a2e)- 1 kit a 37- 9 to the current project haplotype

R1b1b2a1a (Founder born 1000 BC) - Germanic (S21/U106) - 1 kit a 37-19 to the current project haplotype

A very simplified explanation of Deep Clade Testing as it pertains to our project.


February 15 2009 - An Overview of the Study

The Clan MacLeod Society is participating in the relatively new science of utilizing DNA testing for genealogical purposes. There are basically three steps to the process for MacLeod men (and those of other surnames) who are participating:

1) the testing reveals your Haplogroup and indicates where your earliest ancestor, thousands of years ago, came from.
2) MacLeod is an old surname dating from the 1200's at least; the test proves whether or not you share that surname from its earliest use or whether one of your ancestors took the name for one of many reasons (birth event, fostering or in later years an adoption event, assuming the head of the family through a marriage to a daughter of the surname etc).
3) it reveals to which of the men of your surname you are most closely related within a genealogical timeframe of approximately 600 - 800 years.

However, this is a relatively new aspect of DNA studies and the scientists and project leaders are learning as we have more and more men participate just how mutations and other factors influence the results in studies that are concerned with more recent events then the migration patterns of early man.


About the MacLeod YDNA Surname Study

There are actually several different projects that have been done, or which are currently ongoing. In the original project, tests were to determine if the earliest participants, all men who bear the surname, were descended from one common ancestor as our Clan history suggests. Five hundred kits were originally sent out to volunteers and about 80% of those kits were returned and/or usable.

This first testing project was to determine what is best described as the "deep ancestry" of our Clan - in this initial testing participants were found to belong in several different haplogroups making it clear that not all who bear the surname MacLeod (or any of its variant spellings) were descended from one common ancestor.

The results shows that of the kits returned, 32% had a common haplogroup that is consistent with an ancestry out of the Isle of Man which itself is consistent with our Clan History and the remainder were of a different haplogroup and had assumed the surname MacLeod at some point since cr 1200. The study also determined that within the common Haplogroup, a haplotype was emerging. The results of this study were reported in the Clan MacLeod Magazine in April 2004.

Key:

Row One - Locus or marker number
Row Two - The Modal for Haplogroup R1b
Row Three - University of London results of R1b
Row Four - Current FTDna MacLeod Clan Results of R1b
Row Five - University of London Haplogroup R1a results (Hg3) plus FTDna R1a1 Results

Locus
1
2
3
4
8
11
DYS#
3
9
3
3
9
0
1
9
3
9
1
3
8
8
3
9
2
R1b Haplogroup Modal
13
24
14
11
12
13
UL Clan MacLeod Haplotype Modal
32% of participants - Released 6/6/2005
13
25
14
11
12
13
Standard=R1b FTdna
=121 kits as of 5/31/2009
13
25
14
11
12
13

UL = Hg3 / UL - 12% of participants
Standard = R1a1 / FTDNA = R1a1
FTDNA Results = 15 R1a kits as if 2/6/2008

13
25
16
11
12
11

Note: UL referred to the R1b group as "Founding Group" which equals FTDna R1b
Also Note: UL referred to the R1a1 group as "Hg3" which equals FTDna R1a1
Again Note: 32% of those within the R1b or Founding Group shared the "25" at Locus 2 DYS# 390 - which signified a Haplotype within the larger Haplogroup

The first column shows the University of London terminology and clarifies the standard and FTDNA terminology. This was found on the FTDNA MacLeod Project RESULTS page but was difficult to read as it was not in TABLE format. (I have added the R1b Modal row for comparison and clarification; it was not included on the results page.)

"These results taken together suggests that this high frequency haplotype shared by 32% of the MacLeod sample represents the clan MacLeod founding lineage - the lineage that was created by the original progenitor of the clan and which has subsequently been inherited by a fair proportion of future generations."

Clan MacLeod Magazine DNA Article -Julia Abernethy BA (Hons), University College London This link is off site - use your back button to return to this page.


How does all of this pertain to those of us who are descended from Angus and Nancy McCutchen MacLeod?

The Haplotype of the Clan MacLeod Project can be determined by defining the "center" of the project; this is done by taking the most common allele/value at each marker tested - this allele/value becomes the Modal for that marker. Once the "center" is defined, in most Surname Project's each participant's results are compared to the haplotype and a distance from it is assigned. FTDNA has set "allowable" distances which indicate the degree of relatedness of each kit to each other kit.

Our family results are a 12/12 match at the 12 marker level of testing to the haplotype; a 25/25 match at the 25 marker level of testing to the haplotype and a 66/67 to the MacLeod Haplotype as it presently stands. (There is some "fuzziness" beginning to appear at 37 markers in which two multicopy markers appear equally likely to be the modal which will be discussed on the following pages). As more men participate in the project the haplotype will continue to be defined.

Among our closest matches are two main branches of Leod's family tree as well as 3 sub - branches of the tree which certainly indicates that we share a recent common ancestor with those lines (within 600 years or cr. 1408 - 1700). As to where we actually "fit" into the Family Tree of Leod, that is something of which we may never truly know the truth. If one takes a good look at the documented lines of MacLeods who descend either through MacLeod of Harris or MacLeod of Lewis it is obvious that although many times the names of a specific man's children are known, nothing but the name is known for one or more of the male children. These are sometimes referred to as "lost lines". Documenting our place in the tree will be almost impossible to do based upon the scarcity of records.

However, for more recent genealogy i.e. 1690 - the present, the DNA testing has revealed avenues of research that should be investigated....such as a close match with a MacLeod Family of Colbost, Isle of Skye Scotland and another MacLeod Family of Virginia. There is also indication of close relationship with several MacLeod Family's of North Carolina.


What exactly does DNA PROVE?

I have spent a great deal of time researching and have come across several web pages where it is stated "DNA is passed UNALTERED from father to son and will prove relationship ...." or similar wording. Unfortunately, this is not exactly the case in genealogical DNA testing which uses "junk" DNA.....

Mutations do occur between a father and son and we have this in our family results from our participation in this project - it is also found in the family of the founder of FTDNA who misses his father and brother by a one step mutation.

Additionally, DNA testing has its limits - it cannot tell you how you are related just that you are related ...i.e. ..my 6 times great grandfather may be the same man as your 5 times great grandfather...that man is our "in-betweener" and can help us determine the age of any mutations that exist between our two haplotypes but without the documentation each of us has we cannot determine the "how" of the relationship.

Basically the DNA testing does two things:

  • we can learn to whom we are related, but not necessarily HOW we are related
  • we can learn to whom we are NOT related within genealogical time frames

DNA testing is a companion to Genealogical Research ....it cannot and should not be considered in any way a replacement for good old fashioned record searching!

Sideline Research


Arrants of South Carolina
Barnes of South Carolina
Blyther of South Carolina
Boykin of South Carolina
Coombs of Maine
Davis of South Carolina
Dennis of South Carolina
Freeman of South Carolina
Holland of South Carolina
Huggins of South Carolina
Hurst of South Carolina
Jones of South Carolina
Josey/Jossey of South Carolina
Medhurst of England
Meyers of South Carolina
Moseley of South Carolina
Rodgers of South Carolina
Ross of South Carolina
Yates/Yeates of South Carolina
Online Research Sites

Sumter South Carolina Genealogy
Kershaw South Carolina Genealogy
County Kent England Genealogy
Family Tree DNA

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