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THE FAY FAMILY HOMEPAGE

GENEALOGIES
   
John Fay (1769 - 1840)
And his Descendants
   
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John Fay
John (1669 - 1747) son of John; married Elizabeth Wellington
Stephen (1715 - 1781) (OPF #35) son of John; married Ruth Child
Stephen (1739 - 1804) (OPF #119) son of Stephen; married Susan Fiske
John Fay (1769 - 1840) (OPF #657) son of Stephen; married Mary
   
Anthony Finley, 1831, New York
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The map selection above shows the towns which were important to this branch of the family. Travelling from Charlton, Massachusetts (right, center) south to Pomfret, Connecticut (right bottom), then continuing back to Massachusetts, John probably headed straight from Pomfret to Otis in Berkshire County. Other places of importance were Blandford, Springfield, Westfield, Chester and Becket, all easily visible on this map.
   
   
John may have been born in Charlton, or he may have been born in Connecticut. The births of only three of the children of Stephen and Susan were reported in Charlton, but many births were not recorded. Stephen is certainly in Charlton in 1790 and 1800 (census), but there is some evidence that he spent some time in Connecticut: in the census of 1880, both Aaron and William Pierce report that their father (John) was born in CT.
John definitely set up his household in Pomfret, Connecticut. He moved to Massachusetts later, to Loudon in Berkshire County (Loudon changed its name to Otis on June 13, 1810). The first birth recorded to John and Mary in Otis is that of Truman on July 14, 1799; this means that John's move was accomplished before then. The births of four children in Otis are recorded to John and Mary: Truman, Ann, Brewster and William Pierce.
1790
John Fay Pomfret, Windham, CT
--one adult male [John], two females [Mary; Polly]
1800
John Fay Loudon, Berkshire, MA
- 2 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0   |   1 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0
males: Truman 1799, Aaron 1796, John 1791; John
females: Abigail 1793, Polly 1789; Mary
1810
John Fay Otis, Berkshire, MA
2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 0   |   1 - 0 - 2 - 1 - 0
family is now complete
The vital records of Otis give us a great deal of information about John, Mary, and their children and grandchildren. The fact that this family remained in Massachusetts for so many years means that it is easier to trace them than many other branches. In establishing the line below, I have used the vital records at NEHGS, WWI registrations, the evidence of the census records, social security death lists, and other miscellaneous information.
There is one question not yet answered. Who was John's wife? Orlin has her name as Mary, and the name of their oldest daughter as Polly. It must be remembered that Polly was an accepted, common and frequent nickname for Mary. Often it seems that a girl before marriage was called Polly, and after marriage was called Mary; or that a mother would be called by her birth name Mary when she had a daughter named after her, who could then be "Polly" in her turn. However, sometimes the child was simply recorded under "Polly" and kept that name throughout her life; such was the case with the daughter of John and Mary: she appears in the vital records as Polly, and in the census records all the way along as Polly. With this in mind, I looked at the marriage records for Pomfret, Connecticut, the first place we specifically see John. In Frederic W. Bailey, Early Connecticut Marriages as Found on Ancient Church Records prior to 1800, there is a marriage between John Fay and Polly Pierce, Dec. 11, 1788. We know that John's first child was born in May, 1789 (Orlin). True, that is only five months after the wedding, but that is not unusual. Mary, John's wife, was born April 23, 1767 (Orlin, strengthened by the death records). In 1788 Mary would have been 21, a common time to marry. I think that this John Fay is the one who married Polly Pierce. This is not proved by evidence yet, but it seems very likely to me.
   
Descendants of John Fay and Mary
Researched
John Fay (1/11/1769 - 7/1840) married Mary (4/23/1767 - 3/5/1824)
John and Mary had the following children:
Polly  |  John  |  Abigail  |  Aaron  |  Truman  |  Ann  |  Brewster  |  William Pierce
6  Polly Fay  b: 5/10/1789  d: 1879
Polly never married. In 1850 she was living with Percival and Hannah Davison. Percival's mother was also in the household. It is not known why Polly joined them, nor for how long she stayed. In 1860 and 1870 she seems to be living alone.
6  John Fay  b: 3/27/1791  d: 10/28/1830
...+Sally Hawley  m: 1/26/1815
John died of typhus fever. He and Sally had no children.
6  Abigail Fay  b: 5/26/1793
...+Thomas Gates  m: 11/13/1815
......7  John Eli Gates  b: 9/11/1821
It looks as if the line continues; I am waiting for confirmation
Aaron and Mary had eight children: Mary | Sedgwick | Milton | George | Abigail | John | Sarah | Linus
6  Aaron Fay  b: 5/16/1796
...+Mary Lyon(s)  m: 1/9/1820
......7  Mary Ann Fay  b: 9/30/1820  d: 10/21/1839
......7  Sedgwick Norton Fay  b: 3/2/1822
.......  +Maria Amanda Wilner  b: 1825  m: 11/22/1848
............8  Mary Fay  b: 9/13/1850  d: 1/24/1852
............8  Milton Brewster Fay  b: 8/21/1852
.............  +Sarah Beachtel  b: 8/1854  m: 8/15/1871
..................9  Albert M. Fay  b: 5/1872
.................... +Leila C.  b: 10/1874
........................10  Allyn F. Fay  b: 8/7/1905  d: 3/5/1974
..................9  Minnie M. Fay  b: 10/1877
.................... +Alfred Renfree  b: 2/1874
........................10  Elsie May Renfree  b: 5/27/1900
..................9  Frank Louis Fay  b: 2/19/1880
.................... +Edna Louise Dunbar  b: 1882
........................10  Violet M. Fay  b: 1910
........................10  Frances L. Fay  b: 1912
........................10  Frank Milton Fay b: 1/1/1912 d: 2/28/1983
........................... +Helen B. Haydasz b:11/7/1912 d:9/17/1992
..................9  Clinton William Fay  b: 7/7/1894  d: 1/1978
.................... +Mildred H.  b: 1/31/1895  d: 4/1993
..................9  Wesley Norbert Fay  b: 8/11/1890
.................... +Elizabeth G.  b: 1898
........................10  Thomas M. Fay  b: 1918
........................10  Norbert V. Fay  b: 11/1926
........................... +Muriel Baker
............8  Edward E. Fay  b: 1854
.............  +Julia H. Norton  m: 7/15/1876  d: 1900-1910
..................9  Frederick Norton Fay  b: 5/20/1877
..................9  Edward Fay  b: 1/15/1879
..................9  Julia I. Fay  b: 1/19/1881
............8  Ella Fay  b: 4/29/1859  d: 8/11/1860
............8  Emma Fay  b: 4/29/1859
............8  Flora Elizabeth Fay  b: 6/19/1862  d: 10/8/1874
............8  Delia Augusta Fay  b: 7/11/1864
.............  +Edson W. Bickford  b: 1862  m: 7/3/1882
............8  George Wesley Fay  b: 7/21/1866
.............  +Louise M. Bowman  b: 1872  m: 3/13/1893
..................9  Delia Louise Fay  b: 11/14/1896
............8  Harriet Fay  b: 1871
......7  Milton Brewster Fay  b: 10/14/1824  d: 1/27/1899
.......  +Martha Snow  b: 1827  m: 9/5/1847
......7  George Washington Fay  b: 5/21/1827
.......  +Sarah E. Jones  b: 1836
............8  Allice Martha Fay  b: 7/1857
.............  +Wilbur L. Hunt  b: 8/1856  m: 7/22/1880
............8  William Lambert Fay  b: 1860
.............  +(1)Emily Carter b:12/13/1867 m:12/31/1887 d:6/15/1895
..................9  Myrtle Fay  b: 9/9/1889
..................9  Mark Lambert Fay  b: 5/14/1895  d: 3/1974
.............  +(2)Nora E. Hunt  b: 1867  m: 2/15/1897  d: 5/16/1909
............8  Mary Alice Fay  b: 1863
............8  Irene S. Fay  b: 6/1868
.............  +William W. Suriner  b: 1865  m: 11/27/1887
..................9  Bertha M. Suriner  b: 5/1888
..................9  Lottie M. Suriner  b: 10/1889
..................9  Frances Suriner  b: 7/1891
..................9  Inez Lavancia Suriner  b: 2/15/1893
.................... +Frank Leroy McNeil  b: 5/15/1889
........................10  Dorothy McNeil  b: 7/9/1916  d:12/28/1948
........................... +Lawrence Hubbard b: 4/1/1911 d: 6/2/1980
..................9  Grace E. Suriner  b: 8/1894
..................9  Ethel E. Suriner  b: 8/1897
..................9  Arthur William Suriner  b: 8/12/1899
..................9  Mildred Suriner  b: 1902
..................9  Leon Suriner  b: 1904
..................9  Carl Suriner  b: 1907
..................9  Ralph Suriner  b: 1910
............8  Wilber Clayton Fay  b: 10/18/1872
.............  +(1)Amy A. Hall  b: 1881  m: 9/11/1901  d: 3/31/1903
.............  +(2)Lillian B. Bulkley  b: 1865  m: 1905
..................9  Leroy Clayton Fay  b: 11/17/1906  d: 3/6/1907
............8  Ira Eugene Fay  b: 6/13/1878
.............  +Annie Jane Kent  m: 3/21/1898
..................9  Kenneth Lloyd Fay  b: 4/2/1900
..................9  Earl Clayton Fay  b: 5/30/1899
..................9  Dorothy Fay  b: 1904
......7  Abigail Fay  b: 6/2/1830
.......  +Nathaniel Roraback  b: 1828  m: 9/7/1853
............8  daughter b: 7/19/1855
............8  Aaron Roraback  b: 1854
.............  +Estella  b: 1862  m: 1887
............8  Mary Roraback  b: 5/1865  d: 4/26/1866
Aaron and Estella had two children, but I have not been able to find out their names.
......7  John Fay  b: 7/4/1832
.......  +(1)Eunice M. Hubbard  b: 1844  d: 5/10/1866
............8  Lucy M. Fay  b: 12/29/1859  d: 9/1/1864
.......  +(2)Amanda S.  b: 1833  m: 1879
......7  Sarah Albina Fay  b: 5/20/1835
.......  +Robert F. Hunt  b: 1834
............8  Frederick Robert Hunt  b: 9/6/1857
.............  +Mattie J. Perkins  b: 1868
..................9  Ruth Edna Hunt  b: 5/8/1898
..................9  Paul N. Hunt  b: 1/6/1902
............8  George Bruster Hunt  b: 1/1/1860
............8  Emma Jane Hunt  b: 7/6/1865
............8  William Henry Hunt  b: 9/6/1867
.............  +Mary Christiana Rowley  b: 8/1867
..................9  Grace Blanche Hunt  b: 5/3/1894
..................9  Myrtle Beulah Hunt  b: 12/12/1896
..................9  Leland William Hunt  b: 2/16/1899
.................... +Stella C.  b: 1904
..................9  Henry Gobel Hunt  b: 12/8/1900
............8  Joseph Hunt  b: 4/14/1870  d: 1/3/1940
.............  +Ina Stever  b: 5/3/1882  m: 12/8/1897  d: 5/1937
..................9  Herbert Ralph Hunt  b: 5/1898
..................9  Gladys Pearl Hunt  b: 10/27/1899
.................... +Lloyd Renne Patterson  b: 12/9/1898
........................10  Robert W. Patterson  b: 1920
........................10  Richard L. Patterson  b: 1922
........................10  Shirley I. Patterson  b: 1925
........................10  Elaine Patterson
..................9  Mildred Charlotte Hunt  b: 6/23/1902
.................... +Lewis Potter  b: 11/1/1898
........................10  Barbara Potter  b: 1925
........................10  Charles Potter  b: 1926
........................10  Harvey Potter  b: 1927
........................10  David Potter  b: 1929
........................10  Charlotte Potter
..................9  Doris Hunt  b: 7/23/1904  d: 6/24/1982
.................... +John H. Creamer b:5/28/1900 m:1921 d:10/24/1979
........................10  Edward J. Creamer  b: 1923
........................10  Louis J. Creamer  b: 1924
..................9  Elwin Hunt  b: 1907
.................... +Elizabeth A. Waite  b: 1907  m: 1926
........................10  Nancy Hunt
........................10  Robert Hunt
..................9  Thelma Hunt  b: 1908
.................... +Emil Scaffo  m: 1929
..................9  Harold Edward Hunt  b: 10/14/1909  d: 8/18/1988
.................... +Dorothy Ione Meyers  b: 11/7/1908  d: 8/19/1995
..................9  Stewart Hunt  b: 9/7/1912  d: 5/5/1977
.................... +Stacia Laboda
............8  Rosia Ansolettia Hunt  b: 2/14/1873  d: 3/10/1879
............8  Curtis Hunt  b: 10/28/1876
.............  +Bertha May Barnes  b: 9/1882  m: 4/15/1900
..................9  Arthur Raymond Hunt  b: 2/26/1901  d: 4/16/1976
..................9  Francis Robert Hunt  b: 11/5/1903  d: 11/30/1996
......7  Linus Shepard Fay  b: 9/10/1837
.......  +(1)Cordelia Eunice Norcott  b:4/25/1845 m:1860 d:11/5/1882
............8  William Henry Fay  b: 8/4/1861  d: 1/1/1865
............8  Charles Fay  b: 4/18/1865
............8  Earnest Fay  b: 1/19/1867
............8  Jennie Maria Fay  b: 7/24/1868
.......  +(2)Laura J. Barden  m: 6/5/1887  d: Bet. 1890 - 1895
............8  Maurice Linus Fay  b: 4/22/1888
.............  +Rose  b: 1888  m: 1908
..................9  Lorinda May Fay  b: 1910
..................9  Edith Fay  b: 1915
............8  Lila S. Fay  b: 8/1890
.......  +(3)Hellen M. Meriman  m: 10/29/1895
6  Truman Fay  b: 7/16/1799
...+Alice Whitney  m: 3/1826  d: 3/9/1888
......7  Eliza Fay  b: 1832
......7  William T. Fay  b: 1837
In addition to the two children named here, Truman and Alice had four other children, each of whom died in infancy. It was not possible to find out what happened to Eliza and William.
6  Ann Fay  b: 3/27/1802
...+Silas Whitney  m: 1/22/1827
......7  Eliza Ann Whitney  b: 12/7/1830
.......  +Charles H. Babb  b: 1825  m: 10/3/1849
............8  James L. Babb  b: 1855
............8  Jennie L. Babb  b: 1857
.............  +Ira O. Higgins  b: 10/1852 m: 11/13/1878 d: 7/29/1907
..................9  Earle Elliott Higgins  b: 9/7/1884
..................9  Mabel E. Higgins  b: 10/7/1886
..................9  Hazel Mae Higgins  b: 1/11/1894
............8  William H. Babb  b: 1859
.............  +Jessie F. Holcomb  b: 1861  m: 2/19/1885
..................9  Ethel R. Babb  b: 4/3/1887
..................9  Ina Daisy Babb  b: 1/14/1889
............8  Lucius M. Babb  b: 1862  d: 10/4/1879
............8  Ella M. Babb  b: 9/19/1863
.............  +Frank H. Mann  b: 6/1863  m: 10/22/1884
..................9  Gladys E. Mann  b: 9/1890
..................9  May L. Mann  b: 7/1895
.................... +Harry Lee Waite  b: 9/26/1888
........................10  Dorothy M. Waite  b: 1919
..................9  Viola E. Mann  b: 1902
............8  Edward L. Babb  b: 6/1866
.............  +(1)Eva L. Morgan  b: 1868  m: 12/3/1891
.............  +(2)Lottie Birge  b: 1872  m: 1906
............8  Volney H. Babb  b: 7/16/1869
.............  +Ida M. Hustin  b: 1867  m: 5/14/1894
............8  Lester Angelo Babb  b: 9/3/1872
.............  +Hellen M. Waite  b: 1874  m: 12/31/1895
..................9  Charles Waite Babb  b: 8/26/1897
..................9  Harry Richard Babb  b: 4/6/1899
..................9  Elliot E. Babb  b: 1918
......7  Henry F. Whitney  b: 8/27/1835  d: 1864
......7  William H. Whitney  b: 9/10/1828
.......  +Mary M. Keys  m: 7/1/1855
............8  William E. Whitney  b: 1856
............8  Maryetta Whitney  b: 1859
......7  Polly Whitney  b: 3/4/1833
......7  Jane A. Whitney  b: 1845
6  Brewster Fay  b: 4/1/1805  d: 4/1/1824
6  William Pierce Fay  b: 12/16/1808
...+Rebecca Sage  m: 11/1853
......7  Julia M. Fay  b: 1846  
......7  Laura M. Fay  b: 1848
......7  Mary L. Fay  b: 2/28/1855
.......  +Carlos E. Dow  b: 11/1850  m: 10/5/1876
............8  Madeline Dow  b: 9/3/1890  d: 10/1984
   
April 2008