Message From: Anita De La Rosa
Topic: book wish list

If Goodspeed Biographies is a book I would love to have a copy of it. Can anyone tell me where to find one?
Thank-you, Anita
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Message From: Lisa Hamilton
Topic: Re:book wish list

Hi Anita,

The biographies that Goodspeed publishing put out were regional books. Like Northwester Arkansas and Northeastern Arkansas. The books are at least three inches thick and are full of biographies. They were published in the late 1800s. Some genealogical book publishers have reprinted them. I imagine they would be online and available for ssale. I have seen them range from 54.00 -over 100.00 I was lucky about 6 years ago our library was having a book sale and I got the four copies that I have for 15.00 for all 4! So you might also watch your public library for when they have used book sales.
Lisa
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Message From: Anita De La Rosa
Topic: Re:book wish list

Thank-you Lisa,
I am interested in finding one that includes the Newton County area. If you come across one, please let me know.
Anita
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Message From: Anita De La Rosa
Topic: Coming Home

Hi everyone,
I thought you might enjoy reading this. I did.
Anita
Coming Home
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Message From: Judy Tate 
Topic: Re:Coming Home

Anita,

Lloyd Sutton tells it good doesn't he. Below is a version of the lyrics of the song he said he started singing, Hallelujah I'm a Bum. You might be hearing the melody to it as you read this...if not, click on the attached midi file and play. Hallelujah I'm a Bum
Take Care, Judy Tate

 
1. Oh, why don't you work
Like other men do?
How the hell can I work
When the skies are so blue?

Chorus:
Hallelujah! I'm a bum,
Hallelujah bum again,
Hallelujah! give us a handout
To revive us again. 
2. Oh, I love my boss
And my boss loves me,
And that is the reason
I'm so hungry. 

3. Well, springtime has come
And I'm just out of jail,
Without any money,
Without any bail. 

4. Oh why don't you save all
The money you earn?
Well if I didn't eat,
I'd have money to burn. 

5. Oh, I like my boss,
He's a good friend of mine,
And that's why I'm standing
Out in the breadline. 

6. I can't buy a job
'cause I ain't got the dough
So I ride in a boxcar
'cause I'm a hobo. 

7. I went to a house and
I knocked on the door,
The lady said, 'Scram, bum,
You've been here before!' 

8. I went to a house, and
I asked for some bread;
A lady came out, says,
'The baker is dead.' 

9. I went to a bar and
I asked for a drink,
They gave me a glass
And they showed me the sink. 

10. Oh why don't you work
Like other folks do?
How can I get a job
When you're holding down two? 

11. Whenever I get all
The money I earn,
The boss will be broke
And to work he must turn. 
 
12. When springtime does come,
Oh won't we have fun,
We'll throw up our jobs
And we'll go on the bum.  

Message From: Patricia Weaver
Topic: Re:History of Newton County

Dear Freda, I have not heard from the other lady yet about the History of Newton Co. so I will send it to you if you will let me know where to send it . Patricia Weaver
----- Original Message -----
From: NewtonCoFamilies
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:33 PM
Subject: [NewtonCoFamilies]Re:History of Newton County
Message From: Freda Carpenter
Patricia,
Yes, I would like it very much if no one else wants it.Thank you very much.
Freda
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Message From:  Freda Carpenter
Topic: Re:History of Newton County

Patricia,
Thank you very much and after I am finished with it I will pass it on to the next one who would want it.Let me know the postage.
Freda Carpenter
Rt.1 Box 50-B
Little Hocking, OH 45742
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Message From: Daisianne Younger
Topic: Re:History of Newton County Arkansas

Dear Patricia,
Thanks to you and to the others who communicated to each other regarding my search for a copy of the History of Newton County. I understand either you or Joy has a copy. I would love to have it. The gold paint on the cover is not a problem at all. Please let me know the amount of the book as well as the postage. If it is too much trouble to mail it, we will be in Jasper in the next couple of months, and I could pick it up then. We certainly do appreciate this.
Sincerely,
Daisianne Younger, Ft. Worth, Texas
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Message From:  Judy Tate
Topic: Newcoa Newsletter

The January 2001 Issue of Newcoa Newsletter is now online.
Newcoa Newsletter
Take Care, Judy Tate
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Message From:  Patricia Weaver
Topic: Re:History of Newton County Arkansas

Dear Daisianne, I had not heard back from you so I told another lady she could have the book since you had not responded, but she said she would send it along when she got finished with it so if you don' t get one elsewhere, post another message and maybe she or someone else will make one available to you. I am sorry I didn't have one for both of you. Hope you find one.

Patricia Weaver
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Message From: Anita De La Rosa
Topic: Reminiscent History of the Ozark Region

This site has a volunteer to do look ups in Reminiscent History of the Ozark Region
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Message From: JoBelle Schrillo
Topic: Newsletter

Dearest Judy, --You've done it again!! Don't know how you can do so much. You must never sleep! I thought I would check my email about 9:30 this morning and there was your Newsletter, and I haven't been able to tear myself away from it. It is now 1:45 pm, and I'm still in my nightie. Newton and Madison Counties and all of Northwest Arkansas are the center of my universe. I never lived in Newton County, but it is where my Thomas family settled, and because I know very little about the family I'm always thrilled with every tidbit of info I find. Left Madison County when barely 9 years old but that part of the country will always be "home". Judy, I still intend to get my family info to you --promises - promises! Meanwhile, if you or anyone you know might have a picture of my grandfather, Marchant N. Thomas, I would be forever grateful for a copy. I plan to write to the Harrison Newspaper and try to get a copy of his obituary. THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING ME IN YOUR MAILINGS. ----Your Cousin
JoBelle (Thomas) Schrillo
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Message From: Judy Tate
Topic: James Outlaws 

From Newton County Pathways, Action Team...
After Jesse James was killed, Frank worked out a surrender agreement and droped from the public eye. About the same time, Joe Vaugh settled on a farm at Wayton where he kept to himself and raised a family. There were, according to family historians, some in the county who knew his identity, but in the mountain tradition he was left alone. One of those whom he revelaed his identity was Yank Sutton, who worked with him surveying all over the county. Just before he died, Joe Vaughn gave his family a short auto biography. Descendants say a look alike was persuaded to surrender for Frank James and he changed his name and moved to Newton County.
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Message From: Freda Carpenter
Topic: Re:James Outlaws

While I was in Newton County this last summer I visited with a descendent of the 'Vaughn's' and they do claim he is frank James and I took a picture of his & his wife's headstone. Then came home and started doing research and contacted Phil Stewart who does quite alot into the James'.
Here is what he wrote back:(I also have a family line on them,Joe Vaughn & Nancy Richardson, because they are included in my Snow surname research.)
'You hit it right when you described this as a family 'story'. Joe Vaughn was an old boy who actually HAD been a guerrilla fighter under Quantrill during the Civil War, and probably knew Frank and Jesse James. In his later years, either through a desire for notoriety, money or fun... or senility...decided he was really Frank James. He was pretty convincing! He knew a lot of information because he had BEEN there, and made up some pretty good stories to cover what he didn't know. The funny parts of this is that he didn't start making those claims until AFTER the real Frank James had died. He was also proven to be a fraud, but a lot of people still believed it.
Freda
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Message From: Kylee Madden
Topic: Arkansas Memory Project

To whom it may concern:
I have been researching for a Arkansas Memory Project I am completing for my American Studies Class at the Arkansas School for Math and Sciences, and came across your scrapbook. Picture 98 struck my eye! The guy on the right looks similiar to a guy named James Williams who lived near Boxley. I found the picture of James on page 119 of Old Folks Talking written by Jim Liles. The book can be found at Boone County Library. I am not sure of a connection, but hope I have been of some help. Also, if you have any information about the Buffalo River Controversy which forced many individuals to leave their homesteads it would be greatly appreciated. Any research direction or information would help me!
Sincerely,
Kylee Madden
Junior at Arkansas School for Math and Sciences
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 Message From: Judy Tate
Topic: Controversy over Buffalo River 

Kylee,
I will pass your note on to the person who submitted Item # 94 in the scrapbook...thank you for taking the time to take a look and to offer help. In 1965 Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus was convinced to side with environmental leaders to protest a plan to dam the Buffalo River...I say, Praise the Lord...am so very happy that it was designated the first National River and saved from development. A statement by him is at end of this mail...made to Corps of Engineers, 1965. You might also try to find the book, The Battle For The Buffalo River...including index it is 481 pages, by Neil Compton. I have the book and it is great for anyone interested...It tells it all. One thing that always comes to mind is the mention of a large Gum tree...Harold Hedges had told the Ozark Society that it had been cut and was around five hundred years old. Neil Compton and others of the society went to the Casy/Villines sawmill at Boxley (located in Newton County) and also counted the rings and figured it to be at least five hundred years old...all were impressed, as it had been a living tree when Columbus discovered America... that has stuck with me...this black gum log is pictured with Joe Clark on page 352 of the book. The book contains many letters by public officials, as well as by local folks along the Buffalo River...there are drawings and several photographs throughout. Am sure the book could lend alot of information toward your project. And good luck, let us know how it turns out :o).
Take Care, Judy Tate

STATEMENT
By Governor Orval Faubus to the Corps of Engineers
On the Disposition of the Buffalo River in Arkansas
December 10, 1965 
Lt. Gen. William F. Cassidy, USA 
Chief of Engineers
Washington, D.C. 20315 Dear General Cassidy:

Re: ENGCW-PD

Sometime ago you provided to the Executive Director, Arkansas Soil and Water Commission, a copy of the proposed report of the Chief of Engineers, together with the reports of the Board of Engineers for Rivers and Harbors, and the District and Division Engineers, on an interim report on Buffalo River Basin, Arkansas (Gilbert Reservoir). This was done for my review and comment, in accordance with Section 1 of Public Law 534, 78th Congress, and Public Law 85—624.

I am also aware of a proposal of the Department of the Interior, National Park Service, to create what would become known as a National River in the very same area as the proposed Gilbert Dam. Your agency is also aware of this proposal, because it is discussed in your report, and the proposed Gilbert Dam is recommended as a compromise proposal. I have studied closely both proposals, and my comments are as follows.

1. The building of a dam (or dams) on the Buffalo River is not essential for flood control in the White River Valley area, and the creation of hydroelectric power is not essential.

2. As an attraction for tourists, or use as a recreational area, the dam and lake would be only one more attraction, of which there are already five in the White River system, five more in the state (one more under construction), and a half dozen or more now finished or under construction on the Arkansas River. The drawing power of the dam and lake would be limited. A properly developed National River would be a national and international attraction, drawing additional tourists that would number into the tens of thousands annually.

3. Tentative plans for a National River call for the establishment of three major visitor centers. The first would be at Silver Hill on Highway 65 in Searcy County (near the site of proposed Gilbert Dam). Here would be located the National River headquarters, the maintenance area headquarters, and ranger station headquarters. Also a major camping area, a major picnic area, a district ranger station, and boat access points would be established at this point, and last but not least, a museum.

The second visitor center would be at Pruitt in Newton County on Highway 7. Besides the camping and picnic areas, boat access, maintenance, and district ranger headquarters, there would be a residence area. The third center would be at Buffalo River State Park in Marion County on Highway 14, and would be much the same as the second. (A fourth center could be located at Mt. Judea in Newton County on Highway No. 123.)

Three other ranger stations are proposed: the first located at the mouth of the Buffalo River, the second at Woolem, and the third at Ponca.

The proposal calls for nine (9) primitive camps on the river, which would be accessible only by boat. Six (6) others would be accessible by boat and by road, making a total of fifteen (15) primitive camps. There would be six (6) other boat accesses, or crossings of the river, making a total of twelve (12) boat launching areas in addition to the major visitor centers.

A pioneer farm is proposed for Richland Valley, with barns, log cabins, sorghum mills, and water mills.

Nature trails will lead to such areas as Bat Cave, Lost Valley, Big Bluff, Hemmed-In-Hollow, Peter Point, and others. Camp Orr for Boy Scouts would be retained and assisted.

4. There would be twice as many permanent employees to maintain and operate the National River, as would be required for the dam and lake. In addition, large numbers of temporary employees would be required during the summer season for the National River (as is now the case in all National Parks).

5. With a dam and lake, the land is inundated, with a National River, the land remains, to grow beautiful trees of many kinds, dozens of varieties of wild flowers, and some crops. Many of the present residents would be permitted to remain on the land. The same fields and woods would continue to provide a home for thousands of wild birds, including quail and wild turkey, and continue to produce deer, fox, squirrel, rabbit, raccoon, opposum, mink, and other game. Frogs of every size and kind join with unnumbered katydids to make the summer night musical for the tired camper seeking rest and relief from social and political problems, and the fevered market place.

6. A dam and lake would cover, forever, miles and miles of treelined, flower-bedecked river banks; hundreds of the most beautiful holes (pools) of water that have ever been created; numbers of rock-strewn, rippling shoals; the finest sand-bar camp sites to be found anywhere; and dozens of magnificent towering cliffs. All of these are worth retaining as a part of a National River, because of a unique, inspirational, soul-resting beauty which cannot be found in comparable expanse anywhere else.

7. Already created dams and lakes are to be found on every side of the beautiful Buffalo River area within a distance of 30 to 100 miles. The creation of another facility would add little to the attraction of the area as a whole.

On the other hand, the creation of a properly developed National River would complement the attractiveness of the area. It would create a balanced recreational area unlike any to be found in any other region of the United States.

Fishing and skiing are the main, and almost only sport, on the large lakes. There is little, if any, pleasure in boating. The National River would attract the fishermen and the hunters, the boatmen, canoeists, camera bugs, campers, bird watchers, swimmers, and wildlife lovers of all kinds. The area would have accommodations and unusual appeal for family groups. Were there not already dams and lakes for flood control, generation of electric power, and recreation, this would be a different proposition. However, with the present situation, the National River can add far more to the region, and be of far greater benefit in every way than can another dam and lake.

It is well to point out also that by a conservative estimate, 90% of the thousands of visitors to Buffalo River State Park favor the National River over the dam and lake. Also, a college-trained businessman, operating a business in the very heart of the area of greatest controversy, became sufficiently interested to make a poll of his visiting customers. He was amazed to find that 95% of the visitors in the area favored the creation of the National River. An awareness of this sentiment probably led to the change in attitude of the members of both the Chambers of Commerce of Mountain Home and Yellville, the county seats of two counties through which the Buffalo River flows. Both groups now support the National River proposal, and have withdrawn their support of the dam. There is no question that both aesthetically and economically, the approval and proper construction of a National River will be far better for the area, the State of Arkansas, and the nation, than would be the construction of the proposed Gilbert Dam and Lake.

Of course, there are other considerations. We cannot place a material value upon the soul, the spirit, and the mind of men. The mind of man must constantly be refreshed, his spirit periodically renewed, and his soul, the greatest force for good is man’s capacity to enjoy and be inspired by the unspoiled beauty of God’s creation. The Buffalo River area is one of the greatest examples of the majesty of God’s creation. The beauty of the region cannot be adequately described in any of the many languages of man.

"The heavens declare the Glory of God, and the firmament sheweth his handiwork." Standing in the Buffalo River State Park, on a point overlooking a stretch of this beautiful river, is a plaque erected in memory of a little boy. The plaque bears the following inscription:

There are little corners of this earth put aside by nature to be discovered by and to bring joy to little boys. The lands over which you look here, across this beautiful river, are such a corner; and the arrowheads to be found there, the tiny box canyon with its waterfall and the spring above, are set aside forever for all little boys in memory of another little boy who did discover freedom and joy here.

Warren Mallory Johnston

In so many places, the giant power-driven machines of man are flattening the hedges, fence rows, and nooks, where the song birds nested, and the timid rabbits reared their young; draining the swamp where the wild ducks and raccoons once found refuge; leveling the forests where once roamed the wild deer; scarring the mountains and pushing down the lofty crags where perched the eagles; filling up the beautiful pools which furnished a home for the wary bass and the brilliant golden-hued sunfish.

A conscious effort on the part of society must be made to preserve a part of our God-given beauty, or very soon there will no longer be left a sufficient number of these "little corners of this earth put aside by nature to be discovered by. . . little boys:’ to bring pleasure to their pure fresh minds, and joy to their innocent hearts. Unless this effort is made, under the leadership of the people’s government, soon there will no longer be a sufficient number of accessible places where families can have wholesome pleasure and adventure together. This will constitute a loss to society, for which all material wealth cannot compensate. For these and other reasons, your proposed construction of Gilbert Dam is unacceptable. I praise the Corps of Engineers for its fine accomplishments. I have always been in the forefront in supporting your program of the construction of dams as a proper means of conservation, and the building of the nation. For the very first time in my life, I must disapprove one of your proposals. However, it is a unique and exceptional situation, as the facts I have set out prove beyond any doubt. I support the National River proposal.

Sincerely, Orval E. Faubus, Governor
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Message From: Joy Baldwin
Topic: Re:Civil War Information

Thanks, Would love to visit with you sometime. Are you in Arkansas?
Joy Barnard Baldwin

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Message From: Daisianne Younger
Topic: Request From Ft. Worth

We live in Ft. Worth and have 11 acres in Newton County, on Shiloh, near Low Gap, where we will build this summer after I am retired (I am a teacher). With many visits to the area, we have read with great interest some of the stories of the area. I am trying to locate a copy of History of Newton County. I would be most happy to send the money for the book and the postage if anyone could tell me where to get one. If that is too much trouble, we will be up there in the next month or so. Thank you very much for any help.
Daisianne and Stephen Younger
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Message From: Lori Reddell
Topic: 

Dear Judy,
I'm sorry it took me so long to get back to you, but I have a very bad case of flumonia. Kind of a mixture of both. I really do thank you Judy you do such a kind service to everyone lucky enough to find your site. Myself included everyone that asks me for information, I try to find what I have then send them to your site. I think you are a wonderful lady. Yes I did love that wonderful man, to me he was an angel I know he wasn't perfect but when he was dying of cancer, I became very ill, being run down and all. He wanted to give me his bed and let me rest while he sat in the chair in his room. I wouldn't let him of course, but that was the type of man he was. He knew he was dying and never once did he ask why me. He told me God only promises us 70 years and he was living on borrowed time. So to say I love him just doesn't seem enough I felt that I needed to let everyone know how special he was and still is. Thank You Judy for letting me express my feelings I feel alot better for having wrote that letter. One of your grateful people.
Lori
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Message From: Jetty Baker
Topic: Re: 

Lori
I don't know who you were talking about, but you are so right. That man was an angel. So you by visiting him and being so kind, was his angel. Sometimes we need to be uplifted too. And I believe the both of you are or were angels. You and he were very fortunate to have each other. I also agree with you about Judy. She has to be a wonderful person.
Jetty
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Message From: Lori Reddell
Topic: Re: 

Dear Jetty
I was talking about my dad that died 8-9-1999. He was my best friend, and I miss him so very much. He is ok now, but sometimes I wonder if I will ever be ok again. He's with God and his 1 month old son who died and his 22 month old grandson, his mother and all the rest. I'm glad he's getting his reward I just miss him so very very much. But it makes me feel good to let other's know just what an extraordinary man he was. Thank you for your letter Jetty, you made me feel good, it's been along time since I've found something to smile about, but your letter made me feel good. Also thank you for your kind words dad would have been pleased.
Lori Reddell
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Message From: Jetty Baker
Topic: Re:

Lori, I too have had a great loss. My mother died on Oct. 28, 2000. And I miss her every day. Every day I think 'I need to call Mother'. Then I remember she is in Heaven with God. I find myself being kinda jealous of God because He has my Mother to talk, laugh and communicate with in a very personal way. I know I have God too, but it just somehow doesn't feel the same. Mother and I were very close too. I now have my sister to call and visit and do things with. So God didn't leave me with emptiness. I know this doesn't make much sense, but I'm sure you will understand. Thanks for sharing.
Jetty
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Message From: Lori Reddell
Topic: Re:

Dear Jetty,
I understand perfectly, you know most girls are not as close to their dad's as I am or was I should say, it's just hard to think of dad in the past tence. Seems like I was one of his son's instead of his daughter. I love and admire my mother with all my heart. She is still alive and well at 58 years old. And when daddy died I moved her back up here on the mountain where she grew up. She lived at Scottsville, Arkansas near Dover. She was born in Dry Creek, Newton County, Arkansas and she grew up at Lurton, where I live. She lives just about a 1/8 of a mile from me, I try to see her everyday. And I talk to her on the phone about 10 times a day. God blessed me with two wonderful parents, it's just that when you lose one of them, you tend to talk more about them than the one that is left behind, and that is wrong. Because my mother is a wonderful lady, who I hope someday will meet someone else to share her life with she gave my daddy 41 years and she loved him dearly and she deserves someone else in her life, she just says if there is someone out there for her God will send him to her. So I try to help fill her life with myself and my children we all love her dearly. I just really miss my daddy with all my heart, and I'll tell you how dumb I am I talk to his grave when I visit and I talk to his picture I know he can't hear me, but it makes me feel better, so maybe I'm a little touched as my dear Aunt Mildred Heffley would say. oh well. We are human and thank God he is an understanding God, or he would have thought I had lost it along time ago. (hehe) But Jetty I'm really sorry about your mother, believe me it may take the rest of our lives to get to the point where we can understand, and maybe longer than that. But it's nice to know there are people like you out there to talk to, who understand. Your Friend anytime you need to talk.
Lori Reddell
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Message From: Nancy Jane Balmer
Topic: good site

Hi everyone
Thought maybe you might like this site if you don't have it already.
Good Site
NancyJane
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Message From: James Harris
Topic: A Promise Kept

A PROMISE KEPT
It was the day after Christmas at a church in San Francisco. The pastor of the church was looking over the crèche when he noticed that the baby Jesus was missing from among the figures. Immediately he turned and went outside and saw a little boy with a red wagon, and in the wagon was the figure of the little infant, Jesus. So he walked up to the boy and said, "Well, where did you get Him, my fine friend?" The little boy replied, "I got him from the church." "And why did you take him?" The boy said, "Well, about a week before Christmas I prayed to the little Lord Jesus and I told him if he would bring me a red wagon for Christmas I would give him a ride around the block in it.
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Message From: Charlene Holland
Topic: Loved Ones Gone 

I too have lost some loved ones in 1999. My sister and father died within two days of each other in October '99 and my great granddaughter passed away on Christmas Eve of '99. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't think of them.

I think that reserching and writing our family histories keep our loved ones alive, not only in our own hearts, but in other hearts as well. We tell stories about them that otherwise might not be remembered. We bring alive our ancestors for us, for our children and for all the children to come.

There is a passage from the work of Richard Llewellyn "How Green Was My Valley":

"I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front, to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt, so they had felt, and were to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid, for I was in a long line that had no beginning, and no end. And the hand of his father grasped my father's hand, and his hand was in mine, and my unborn son took my right hand, and all, up and down the line that stretched from Time That Was, to Time That Is, and Is Not Yet, raised their hands to show the link, and we found that we were one, born of Woman, Son of Man, made in the Image, fashioned in the Womb by the Will of God, the Eternal Father."

And even though the quote above talks about sons, I see it also saying: "I looked back and I saw my mother, and her mother, and all our mothers, and in front, I see my daughter, and her daughter, and the daughters upon daughters beyond."