Message From: Rhonda Standridge
Topic: Re:Climintine Savage Standridge

Thanks to your tip about Marcus Marion Savage, I've been able to piece together (though unconfirmed) the following info on my grandmother Climentine.

Her parents were:
Marcus Marion Savage
b. 31 Dec 1854, Putnam Co., MO. / d. 1939, Newton, AR.
Spouse: Fernetta Jane Boston
b. 1855 / d. 1934

Marcus Marion's parents were:
Jahalen L. Savage
b. 1834, IL / d. 6 Oct 1864
Burial: Gillispie Cem., Schuyler Co., Mo.
Spouse: Phebe Galaspie
b. 1835, OH / d. 22 Mar 1875, Putnam Co., Mo.

And Jahalen's parents were:
Daniel E. Savage
b. / d. Spouse: Catherine
b. / d.

Thanks again!!
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Message From: Rhonda Standridge
Topic: Re:Climintine Savage Standridge

Hi Nancy Jane!

Thanks for all your help. I had a question about the following information you sent me:

[Big Snip]
> >found in book by Vera Dean Ross
> >Children of James Standridge and Clementine Savage are:
>2 i. Harve6 Standridge, born January 18, 1908; died August 1951.
>3 ii. Arla Standridge.
>4 iii. Thema Standridge. She married Ashlock.
>5 iv. Clarence Standridge.
>6 v. Silas Standridge, born January 11, 1907 in Arkansas; died
>September 1974 in Sacramento, California.
>7 vi. Lloyd Ray Standridge.

In reference to number 6 above, Silas. Since as far back as I can remember, he's always resided in North Carolina. And I know for a *fact* he was alive and well in 1998 when I went there to see him. What's up with 'died in ...California.' [Big laugh...Hehehe] :-)

Thanks again for your input and look forward to hearing from you again!
Rhonda Lee Standridge
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Message From: Ella Criner Porter
Topic: Cave Creek

Judy,
One of my grgrandfathers was reported to live in Cave Creek in 1900. My question is this, was Cave Creek in Newton County at that time? I have not been able to find him on the 1900 Newton County Census is the reason for my question. I have asked you about him before and continue to search for him. His name was James Samuel Stephens b. abt 1848.

I know in the early 1800s that part of Newton County was a part of Carroll County, so thought maybe Cave Creek may have had a change of it's borders. Thanks so much.

Ella Criner Porter, born in Mt. Judea
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Message From: Judy Tate
Topic: Re:Cave Creek

Ella,
Your James Samuel Stephenson was most likely living at Cave Creek in Polk Township, Newton County, Arkansas in 1900....even though you do not find him in that census. I do not have 1900 Searcy County census, but I think you should look there for him. Cave Creek is very near the Newton and Searcy County line...seems census takers made a practice of wondering over into adjoining county when working the census. Please check out this map showing Mt. Judea, Bass, and Cave Creek:

Map showing Bass, Cave Creek and Mt. Judea

Take Care, Judy Tate
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Message From: Nancy Jane Balmer
Topic: Re:Climintine Savage Standridge

Hi Rhonda

Always room for mistacks, haha, I might have looked him up on the SS#'s I have a habit of doing that and there is room for error in that . I do find alot of full birth dates and death dates on there, along with the wives sometimes. and I didn't really follow up with some of these things that is what is nice about these groups you have the chance of getting a correction. My line is the Standridge's and the Cagle's. I have found alot of family on some of these lines and have been able to get information and get corrections. Oh yes I was going to ask you was her name Clemintine or Clemmia on the marriage info? would like to make the corrections. Your line is off of Martin and Katherine unknown Standridge this is the same line ! as! C. L. Boyd's who had book on these family lines. He had them all in one book and as seperated them into four books now one for each one of Alexanders four Standridge son's. My Cagle family married into three of these lines, Lemuel is is my line thru Lydia Margaret Standridge Cagle, she married Charles Arter Cagle, and his sisters Susan Cagle, married John Standridge and Nancy Cagle married Jeremiah Standrige and both these son's were from the John Wesley Standridge line, Sarah Ann Cagle married to Samuel James Standridge and his father was Samuel James Standridge Sr. So we have alot of Standridge's in are family tree, even some of Charles Arter Cagle's grandchildren married back into the Standridge lines later on.

Your friend NancyJane
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Message From: Judy Tate
Topic: Re:Compton and Erbie on map 

Jetty,
I don't know of any site where you can make maps online...if you or anyone else finds such a site, please let me know. There are several sites where you can enter the name of a city and state and you are then shown that location and can print out driving directions from any location to that destination...left and right turns and all red lights along the way :o). A few months ago I purchased a map making program...have not mastered yet...it is hard for me to use...about like trying to use an Etch-a-Sketch to make a curved line...can't do it. Have recently been using the simple drawing tools that come in software packages with newly purchased systems...
Take Care, Judy Tate
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Message From: Ed Smith
Topic: Re:Coffee Genealogy

I was wondering if the Samarah mentioned below could also have been the Miss Simmonia Thomas (age 19) who married Mr E. L. Coffee (age 23) on 28 Dec 1879 by one Alex Dixon (JP) as mentioned in B-9 of the Newton Co. Marriages.?
-----Original Message-----
From: NewtonCoFamilies [mailto:NewtonCoFamilies@prodigy.net]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 3:21 PM
To: Ed Smith
Subject: [NewtonCoFamilies] Coffee Genealogy


Message From: Judy Tate

Terri,
Sometime feel that we will never find any additional on Elijah Coffee. He died so young...have often wondered just how he died too...have you ever heard anything? On his headstone E. L. Coffee. I use to think, well he had a middle name. But came to the idea that the e l were simple the first two letters of his given name. Have noticed similar with others...a Philemon signed and was known as P H...but he had no middle name... p h were first two letters of given name. Elijah and Samarah lived closer to Swain, than to Mossville where he is buried. That made me think that maybe he had family at or near Mossville. But my grandma, who was born and raised at Swain, said he was buried there for the same reason that her parents were. The Swain Cemetery sites right there on the 'edge' of a cliff...grandma said it was so hard to dig graves there...often had to use dynamite to break through to dig. So alot were buried at Mossville rather than in their community cemetery. Have never made any connection to other Coffee/Coffey of Newton County. The one other Coffee that I cannot place with a family is a Ben Coffee. He is in a picture taken ca 1919/21 at Mossville...is leaning in doorway of church, holding the roll. The picture does not show facial features to where I could compare to picture of Elijah Coffee. Isn't it something that there is a picture of Elijah...he died young and we know so little, but have a picture of him. Compare that to individuals that lived a long life and left a huge trail of information about their life, but no picture. Elijah was known as Bud Coffee. Have read material that states Bud is used similar to Junior. So, perhaps Elijah's father was also Elijah. Did find an Elijah Coffee in Clay County, Kentucky who had a son Elijah...couple of yrs. off on the birth year. But have been unable to find additional to compare to what we know about our Elijah Coffee. The census does state that he came from Kentucky. Samarah's grandfather, Marchant Thomas was among the first 300 inhibitants of Clay County, Kentucky. But no Coffees at that time in Clay or surrounding counties. Think it makes it even harder on us by Elijah fathering only the three girls and no sons. In addition to having a picture of him, it is also great that he has a headstone...there are so very many unmarked graves or graves marked only with a rock. I do wish we could find more on him, but our brick wall is nothing compared to our poor Samarah. The girls were babies when he died and so very many more hardships were ahead of her. I admire her for being able to overcome as much as she did...don't know how she did it :o).
Take Care, Judy Tate
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Message From: Ed Smith    [Unable to display Image]
Topic: Re:Compton and Erbie on Map

Message From: Jetty Baker
Topic: Re:Compton and Erbie on Map

Ok I just thought you had something that I didn't .....Ha ha That was a cute little map anyway.
Thanks Judy
Jetty
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Message From: Freda Dick
Topic: Re:Phillips, Davis, Riggs, Tennison

Sorry I have nothing on these families. Freda
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Message From: Bert Bryant
Topic: Mt. Judea

So Ed, is your research centered around Mt. Judea?
Bert
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Message From: Lisa Hamilton
Topic: Hamilton C. Dickey

HAMILTON CROCKETT11 DICKEY (JAMES ROSS10, JOHN9, ROBERT8, JOHN7, 
GEORGE6, WILLIAM5, JOHN III4, JR. DICKEY3 JOHN, JOHN2 DICKEY, ROBERT1)
was born 1829 in Giles Co., Tennessee, and died April 6, 1890.  
He married 
           (1) ANN COLLIER NEWMAN Abt. 1851 in Walshville, IL.  
He married (2) ALABAMA PAYNE March 13, 1852.

           Children of HAMILTON DICKEY and ALABAMA PAYNE are:
           i.      JEFF12 DICKEY, m. MARY STONE.
           ii.     ALONZO L. DICKEY, b. Abt. 1853, Illinois.
           iii.    JOHN HANNER DICKEY, b. March 1855, Newton 
                   Co., Arkansas.
           iv.     ALFRED R. DICKEY, b. 1856, Newton Co., 
                   Arkansas.
           v.      JAMES S. DICKEY, b. 1858, Newton Co., 
                   Arkansas.
           vi.     MARY ELIZABETH DICKEY, b. December 7, 1860,
                   Newton Co., Arkansas; d. January 7, 1944.
           vii.    MARGARET DICKEY, b. 1863, Newton Co.,
                   Arkansas
                   m. JOHN EDWARDS.
           viii.   LYDIA DICKEY, b. Abt. 1865.
           ix.     CATHERINE DICKEY, b. 1866, Newton Co., 
                   Arkansas.
           x.      MARTHA J. DICKEY, b. Abt. 1867.
           xi.     FRANK DICKEY, b. 1870, Newton Co.,
                   Arkansas.
           xii.    HARRES DICKEY, b. 1874, Newton Co., 
                   Arkansas.

Message From: Ed Smith
Topic: Re:Mt. Judea

Bert,
Mainly, but I will go whereever it takes me to fill in the missing pieces. The trail from about 1900 on is reasonably well documented, however, the trail backwards is not. Surprise, surprise. I would certainly like to find out names and dates but why did my ancestors move to Newton Co. from TN. Can I help you with any thing that my mother may have amassed regarding Newton Co.?

Ed
-----Original Message-----
Message From: Bert Bryant

So Ed, is your research centered around Mt. Judea?
Bert
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Message From: Virginia Heard
Topic: Re:Mt. Judea

Ed,

Where are your Clarks Originally from. I have Clarks in Newton County but no Earl Clark I have Two Rufus Clarks but not yours one Rufus went to Texas or so Oral History States.

Virginia Heard
Albuquerque, NM
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Message From: Ed Smith
Topic: Re:Mt. Judea

Virgina,
I do not have much information (yet, still rumaging through all of my mothers documentation). All that I have written down is that Ida (Asher) Sexton married one Rufus (Luther) Clark and moved to Sherman, Texas. I do not know when they moved but I have pictures of their 3 children. My family history and stories have that Ida was born out of wedlock to Allen Sexton and Betsy Asher. Do not know what happened to her. But Ida was raised as one of the 10 Sexton kids. One of those was my grandfather. Once I can get to the bottom of all of my mothers documentation, there may be more hidden in there than I have found or managed to piece together. If I find any more I will be sure to pass along. If you have any details that you can share, I would be grateful.

Thanks,
Ed Smith
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Message From: Virginia Heard
Topic: Re:Mt. Judea

Ed,

I have a Elizabeth Ann 'Betsy' Asher m to John Bunch but dates are d after 1830 no parents for this Elizabeth Asher.

Virginia
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Message From: Terri England
Topic: Re:Coffee Genealogy

Ed,

Yes, I believe they are one in the same. Other than the spelling on Samarah's name everything else is accurate. Not quite sure what happened there??
Terri
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Message From: Ed Smith
Topic: Re:Mt. Judea

I guess this is one that will need more researching. Unfortunately, in my direct line there is only 1 uncle and 1 aunt surviving. They are not in their 70's.
Ed
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Message From: Ed Smith
Topic: Re:Coffee Genealogy

Do you have any documentation with the spelling of Samarah's name??? I will search through my mound of material, maybe something will turn up.
ed
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Message From: Anita De La Rosa
Topic: Clark

I have a Sarah Clark born 6 January 1844 in Tennessee married William Self 4 January 1866 in Newton County. Do you have Rachel Self born 15 December 1872 as their daughter? Anita
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Message From: Virginia Heard
Topic: Re:Clark

Anita,

I have a Sarah Jane Self b January 06, 1844 Daughter of Abraham Harvey Clark and Sabra Ann Edgmon m. William Self

Virginia
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Message From: Anita De La Rosa
Topic: Re:Clark

Virginia,
We are talking about the same Sarah Jane Clark. Do you know who her children are?
Anita
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Message From: Anita De La Rosa
Topic: Re:Clark

Virginia,
We are talking about the same Sarah Jane Clark. Do you know who her children are?
Anita
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Message From: Virginia Heard
Topic: Re:Clark

Anita,

Sorry I don't have anything other than who her parents were and her Spouse and his parents. I was hoping you could inlighten me.
Virginia
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Message From: Charlene Holland
Topic: Standridge Marriage record

Hi

Going over some Newton County marriage records I noticed that on one of the pages I had copied is a marriage John Standridge to an Emiline Smith . If anyone is interested I can send a copy of it to you. The dates on it appears to be 15 June 1868 and looks to have been recorded 18 June 1868. My great grandfather A.C. Phillips was the clerk sigining this marriage record.

Charlene Holland
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Message From: Charlene Holland
Topic: Re:Newton County, Arkansas

Another great resource for maps is:
Arkansas Highway & Transportation Dept
Map Sales-Room 205
PO Box 2261
Little Rock, AR 72203
501-560-2444

I got the General County Map [they have them for each county] which comes in two sizes 1/2 inch which is 18X30 Scale approx 1/2 " = 1 mile ($4.00)and 1 inch size which is 36X60" ($6.00). I got the 1/2 inch size. This is a current map, shows townships, ranges etc. Also churches, cemeteries etc.

I also got the 1936 maps which I find more useful. Apx 18"x22" price $4.00. These also show sections, townships, cemeteries, churches etc of 1936.

Charlene
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Message From: Rhonda Standridge
Topic: Re:Standridge Marriage Record

I'm interested!!

>
>Message From: Charlene Holland
>
>Hi
>
>Going over some Newton County marriage records I noticed that on one of
>the pages I had copied is a marriage John Standridge to an Emiline Smith
>. If anyone is interested I can send a copy of it to you. The dates on
>it appears to be 15 June 1868 and looks to have been recorded 18 June
>1868. My great grandfather A.C. Phillips was the clerk sigining this
>marriage record.
>
>Charlene Holland
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Message From: Lisa Hamilton
Topic: Margaret Brown

James,
I have not found anything mentioning a Margaret Brown, but the following does mention a daughter of J. J. Brown who was Maggie, married to Edward Truitt living in Newton County...this Maggie could be your Margaret???

J. J. Brown was one of the most successful and progressive farmers of Pope County, Ark. His father and mother were born in Alabama and came to this county, and at a very early day settled in Martin Township with their parents. The early educational opportunities of the subject of this sketch were very limited, yet he improved his opportunities to the best of his ability, so that he was enabled to transact all necessary business connected with his farm. He entered the army when but sixteen years of age as a private, and served three years, but during this time was promoted to first lieutenant. Upon his return home, at the close of the war, he rented and worked his father's farm, which had been laid waste during the war. During this time he was married to Miss Sallie L. Rushing of Dover Township, who proved to him a help mate indeed. They lived together for twenty-one years in perfect harmony, and it was as much by the help of his wife as by his own perseverance and energy, that he made so great a success of his life. He purchased lands at different times until he at one time was the owner of 1,000 acres, which land was in his possession at the time of his death, on which he still owed $1,000, which sum of money Mrs. Brown has since paid, so that she is the owner of the place, free from all incumbrance. She has about 350 acres under cultivation , which she rents out, but as she is an intelligent and shrewd business woman, she has personal supervision of her property. Mr. Brown was reared in the Baptist faith, and although not a member of any church, was a moral, upright man in every worthy particular and had the thorough good-will and respect of his fellow-men. He was born on March 9, 1844, and died in 1888, his marriage having taken place in 1867. He and his wife became the parents of four children: Joseph O., Maggie B., Willie G., and I. J. The eldest son, Joseph, is attending school at Dover, and is now twenty-two years of age. Maggie is married to Edward Truitt, and is living in Newton County, Arkansas, and all the children have received good educational advantages. Mrs. Brown was born in this county August 15, 1848, but on account of the war she attended school but little in her girlhood. She has been a member of the Presbyterian Church since before her marriage, and is in every respect a worthy, Christian lady , being conscientious, charitable and kindly in disposition. The buildings on her farm are among the best the county, and it is also improved by a fine peach and apple orchard, and, in fact, everything about the place bespeaks thrift and intelligent industry.
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Message From: Virginia Heard 
Topic: Re:Ida Sexton Clark

The Rufus W Clark buried in Beechwoods is my Grandfather Son of Samuel Harvey Clark and Orlena Newberry. The W stands for Walker The Headstone reads RW Clark This isn't the Rufus they are looking for

Virginia
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Message From: Charlene Holland
Topic: Re:Standridge Marriage record

Rhonda, I will need your address.
Charlene

NewtonCoFamilies wrote:

Message From: Rhonda Lee Standridge I'm interested!!
>
>Message From: Charlene Holland
>
>Hi
>
>Going over some Newton County marriage records I noticed that on one of
>the pages I had copied is a marriage John Standridge to an Emiline Smith
>. If anyone is interested I can send a copy of it to you. The dates on
>it appears to be 15 June 1868 and looks to have been recorded 18 June
>1868. My great grandfather A.C. Phillips was the clerk sigining this
>marriage record.
>
>Charlene Holland
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Message From: Nancy Jane Balmer
Topic: Re:Standridge Marriage record

Hi Charlene

do we know who the parents are of John Franklin Standridge. Jeremaih and Nancy Cagle Standridge had a John F. Standridge born in 1857?? and Martin W. and Mary E. Jones also had a John Standridge. ?? I have them in my file but know parents for John for right now. and what is the correct spelling for Emeline, is it with an o ???

NancyJane
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Message From: Charlene Holland
Topic: Re:Standridge Marriage record

The marriage record reads what looks like Emeline, but the in the index part of the page it looks like Emiline. I don't know anything about the Standridge family, and only a very little about the Smith family. I copied this page only because it had A.C. Philips' signature as clerk.

Charlene
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Message From: Nancy Jane Balmer
Topic: Re:Standridge Marriage record

Hi Charlene

I also would like to have a copy of this page to put into my file's with there names, because this John could be my gr gr aunt Nancy Cagle wife of Jeremiah Standridge. also my gr grandmother Margaret Emeline Cagle Greer Phillips was married in Okahoma to a Harvey Dustin Phillips that we can't find anything on him except we have his birthdate and were is was born, they had one son who was born in 1911 Harvey was 66 years old and Emma was 33, his name was Leonard Columbus Phillips, he seaced for a married lic and info on his father but never found out much of anything we also know Harvey was living in Missouri, he was said to have not been a very nice person and as the story go my gr grandmother run him off.
NancyJane Balmer
18425 Sylvan St.
Tarzana, CA 91335
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Message From: Charlene Holland
Topic: Re:Standridge Marriage record

List moderator
I will send marriage record to you within next couple of days so you can hyperlink it.

Charlene

NewtonCoFamilies wrote:

Thanks Charlene...attachments are not allowed to go through the mailing list, to protect from possible virus. By having an item hyperlinked, makes it more safe and also available for all. Thank you for your interest in helping others. Regards,
List Moderator,
NewtonCoFamilies
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Message From: Jetty Baker
Topic: Re:Arkansas County Maps Book

Thank you for all that information,. The pictures and mention of Buffalo River sure does make me homesick.
Jetty
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Message From: Nancy Jane Balmer
Topic: Re:Standridge Marriage record

Hi Judy

Thank You; I was just wondering what it was. Looks like we have a pretty good little group here, it makes it nice when people are sharing. I have a couple of changes in the Henry Cagle and wife Martha , Henry's middle name was Edward and his son James J. Cagle married to Eliza Meeks his middle name was James Jackson Cagle. every little bit helps.

Love your friend NancyJane
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Message From: Ed Smith
Topic: Re:Ida Sexton Clark

For those that are interested, I do have early childhood photos of Luther, Earl and Ethel. However, I do not have any pictures of either Ida or Rufus. Ida is one of my great or grand aunts. Anyway, she is a half sister to my grandfather Thomas Jefferson, who is a son of Allen Sexton.
Ed Smith
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Message From: Judy Tate
Topic: Samarah

Ed,
Samarah Thomas, wife of Elijah Coffee, was a midwife and due to that, her signature appears on many delayed birth certificates of Newton County...especially births around Swain, Mossville, Nail, Limestone, Shiloh, and Cassville. Four grand and/or great grandchildren were named after her...my momma being one of them. Her name is spelled Samarah, as is the signature made by Samarah who delivered her...the others who are named after her also use the Samarah spelling. By the way, if anyone knows of any individual delivered by Samarah Thomas Coffee Lovell Curtis, please let me hear from you. Over the years I have compiled a list of babies she delivered and I would be interested in learning of any additional.
Take Care, Judy Tate
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Subject: [NewtonCoFamilies]Re:Coffee Genealogy

Message From: Ed Smith

Do you have any documentation with the spelling of Samarah's name??? I will search through my mound of material, maybe something will turn up.

ed
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Message From: Judy Tate
Topic: Pleasant Lovell