Message From: Message From:  Ray Richardson

NewtonCoFamilies@prodigy.net writes:
<< Freda,
Do you have info on the Lewis Daniels (1858-1937) line? I have info on most of his descendants but do have some gaps I'm trying to fill in. Would very much like to share/exchange info. I know I have at least one Young marrying a Daniels. Renta Young married Harley Daniels son of William "Bill" Daniels son of Lewis Daniels. Harley Daniels is the brother of the Anias Daniels that Ray and I were discussing. I have other Youngs in my book but I don't believe they have any connection to the Daniels line. Vonda >>

Vonda,
Would this Renta Young have a brother named Isaac Young? I have him as marrying Julie Richardson, the youngest daughter of my gg-grandfather Frederick. If they are brother and sister I have no other info on him at all. I know he is related to a bunch of other Youngs from that area. By the way, my mother's maiden name was Young (from Texas) and so is my wife's (Okla.) Small world, lol. Ray

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Message From: Lori Reddell

Dear Ella,
Did Bailey and Della have children? Or did Della have them before she married? I only knew George that Bailey had with his 2nd wife they also had a daughter but she died when they lived in California. My email address is droopydrawers@eritter.net named for my 75 lb. Bassethound who has taken over what is left of my life. He thinks he owns me, which he does.
Lori

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Message From: Ella Porter
Hello Lori,
Della Hattie George was b. 3/31/1868 d. 8/29/1939 William Gaither Duck was b. 10/26/1857 (tombstone according to the cemetery listing which I think is on this site) My records show 1852, can't remember where I got the date. The 1920 census show him as 61 which would make it 1859. It is hard to read so it may be that he was 67 which would make it 1853. Take your pick. W. Gaither died 10/30/1937. They are both buried in Mt. Judea Cemetery. I thought I had taken a picture of their gravestone when I was there this past summer but cannot locate it.
I think your Della is listed on the 1920 census living nearby William Gaither family. 4 of her children are listed but it is hard to read so wouldn't want to guess at the names. It may just be my copy, someone else may have a better copy. It looks like the census taker may have dropped the D in Della and given her the name Ella. Bailey Nichols looks almost like David but I'm almost sure it is them, it shows her as 30 years old which would be right.

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Message From: Lori Reddell

Colleen,
I have read alot of stories you have wrote on Newton County, mostly Lurton. I live not in Lurton, but about 1 1/2 miles from Lurton. Did you go to school at Deer? I did, my mom did, and now so are my children, my oldest daughter graduated from Deer, she went from kindergarden on and so has my youngest she is in the 11th grade at Deer. I love your stories about Lurton and growing up there, I knew alot of the people you talk about in your memories of Lurton, I knew Uncle Mitchell Hefley or Squire as most called him, and his wife Ollie, Do you remember Bailey Nichols and Eula Hayden? I knew Herbert Hampton and Alta Lee, Lillie Vanderpool, Herbert was the one who showed me how to remember to spell Catsup. I knew Ernest Daniels we visited him alot. I know his wife Lois, she is a nice lady. I feel like we are losing alot of the old people that I loved so much. I miss Herbert and Felix Tennison. My dad and Herbert and Felix knew each other well. Herbert died in April, my dad in August and Felix in November it was a really bad year for Lurton in 1999, I loved all three. Well Colleen, I hope to hear from you again. And hope to see some more of your stories on Judy's site, they are so good. Lori

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Message From:Lori Reddell

Dear Colleen,
Thanks for the information. When I get back from town, I'll fix you up a gedcom file, if you will send me your email address. I never knew "A", but Aunt Mildred said he was a fiddle playing fool, I have some pictures of A if you would like them. I also have one of Toad and his wife and Elmer and Viola. Just let me know if you would like a copy. Lori

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Message From: Colleen Haynes Rongey
Hi Lori...I went to Lurton School with Lois and Athel...he was a sweet man and a great talented fiddler...He could dance real good, too...He was too shy to ask me to dance, so I would ask him maybe one dance in the evening and he always said, "I don't keer"...when I said, "A, do you want to dance with me?" EL has told me something about there being two different Dan Hefleys..One lived up the Creek at the head of Big Creek and he says he is related to that one...he said the Lurton Dan Hefley came in from the north someplace and he did not think them related...If you have a ged com I would like that and I can print it out for him. I don't know anything about them that far back. Also, Carrol and Errol (her twin brother) were born on April 8, 1938 in the middle of the worst snowstorm that year...there at Lurton in our old house...I remember the day very well.. Thanks for your info...Colleen

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Dear Colleen,
My mother's sister Mildred Dotson is married to Russell Heffley, EL's brother.
And in my research I have found that EL's mother and father are 3rd cousins and they are related to the Dan Hefley bunch alot.
I've already told Aunt Mildred this and she didn't like it much, and I don't blame her but all of Newton County are related somewhere along the way. But Uncle Toad was the only child in that family who spelled his name with 2F's some of his children only used the 1F version. But they are related to Uncle Dan's family on both sides. I can send you a gedcom file if you want, it has alot of information on the Heffley's or Hefley's in it. Do you know when Carol's birthday is? Aunt Mildred didn't know when their anniversary was or when their son's birthday was. I would love to hear the stories EL has told you. Aunt Mildred said Athel or "A" as everyone called him, could play the fiddle so good, she said he had a heart of gold.
Lois the only sister Russell and EL have left living fell on this ice and broke her hip, she had to have surgery and she just got out of the hospital two days ago, she is doing alot better. But uncle Russ isn't doing so great after he lost Custard, and both his sister's in 3 weeks time and my daddy died in between his two sister's he and my dad were very close, he has just given up all hope. He has Alzimer's and is going down hill, not fast but you can still tell he isn't doing so good.
Colleen it sure was good talking to you, would love to hear about EL's stories and to talk to you some more.
Lori Reddell

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Message From: Colleen Haynes Rongey
Hello Lori...
Am enjoying your letters to each other...(always did like to read mail... This is Colleen Haynes Rongey again...I grew up at Lurton next door to Uncle Toad and Aunt Margaret Heffley...My sister Carrol Haynes married their grandson EL Heffley and they live now in Little Rock...I have heard EL say that his dad was a 2F Heffley and mother was a one F Hefley (no relation) ...His grandmother was Margaret Cheatham and descended from the Sam Davis line on Big Creek...
I'll be posting something on this on my Heffley page on Woodard's of Tarlton web site...soon...my brotherinlaw is quite a historian..he does not have email, however...and I do try to write down every thing he says because he listened to all his family stories (and the neighbors, too) ... EL can tell you about the two Heffley/Hefley clans...
Now, Preacher Dan Hefley's bunch at Lurton are a totally different clan to these two and they came to NCo much later...The 2 F Heffleys say they are no kin to the 1 fs, and I hope not, because ELs parents were both...the 1 f Hefley of his mothers part are related to the author/historian James Carl Hefley and he writes about his cousin EL and him catching blue lizards when they were kids together there on Big Creek... In his book Way Back When by James Carl Hefley...he writes about many of the early timers on Big Creek and where they came from. All you NCo folks need to get all his books and read/ keep them with your NcHistory...
In the middle nineties, while on our family vacation...I met James Carl and his wife Marty Hefley when I went with my sister Carrol and her husband EL Heffley down to MtJudea to their annual Hefley/Heffley family reunion. James Carl told me of his Mark Twain Writers Conferrence held each summer in Hannibal, Missouri where they now live...and invited me to come ... so...I went there four summers for a week of wonderful writing inspiration/instruction from a lot of authors they brought in...My idea of a really fun vacation...
James Carl is professor of writing/english/history there at Hannibal LaGrange College and they let them use their campus for the four day writers conferrence, fed us and entertained us...people attended from all over the country.and we made lifelong friends...His last conference was in 1996 or 97 when they stopped. His daughter Cindy Allison was the in charge person and I think she has another job and James Carl has been busy writing so this will never be again...
Since I do believe that nothing (or very little) in our life happens by accident, I will always be grateful for the timing of that mountain vacation where I met James Carl again...Knew him when we were both children and this was in the 40s...he was age of my sister Pat and they were childhood friends. The NCo Historical has some of his books to sell...get one. Go visit my Nco web sites and write me...
Thanks.
Colleen RongeyNewton County

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Message From: Lori Reddell

Dear Ruth,
Thanks so much, for the information if there is anything I can send you just let me know.
Lori

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Message From: Joy Baldwin

Ray, I have Margaret J. Barnard (Margaret is sister to Rueben Barnard m. Rachel Sparks) Margaret J. Barnard m. Feb. 17, 1845 in Tenn. William R. Ponder b. 1821 s/o Valentine Ponder and Margaret Spencer. They had 9 children. I was wondering if William Ponder could be of the same family as your Jennie Ponder? Joy

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Message From: Ray Richardson
NewtonCoFamilies@prodigy.net writes:

<< Message From: Freda Carpenter
Ray,
On your Norton line...I have a little information from my Norton cousins on Zade Dock Norton 1861-1944 married Mary Wallis 1861-1974 their son Lee Roy Norton 1903-1977 married Stella Grace Page who is the daughter of William Monroe Page & Eliza Jane Snow.Eliza Jane is my Grandmother's sister. >>

Freda,
Zade Norton's sister was my g-grandmother, Sophronia Norton 1859-1936. She was married to John Swain and their daughter, Myrtle Grace was my grandmother. Sophronia and Zade's parents were Josiah Norton and Jennie Ponder. Josiah joined the Confederacy during that war and was killed by bushwackers in Tennessee during the war. After that, Jennie took all her kids, about 9 of them I think, and made the wagon trip from Tenn. to Arkansas probably about 1865. They were some hardy people back then.
The only thing, I show that Zade married a Jennie Brown and that Lee Roy was one of their 9 children. I had been thinking that the Snows and Richardsons were somehow related. I got the info on Zade from some of my Swain cousins in Washington co.
Ray

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Message From: Billie Harris

speaking of the Vanderpool line I am related thru marriage to it. Rex Vanderpool and Dorothy Vanderpool still live up on the mountain on his Dads property.. His father was Ben and Maddie Vanderpool...

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Message From: Lori Reddell
Colleen,
I have read alot of stories you have wrote on Newton County, mostly Lurton. I live not in Lurton, but about 1 1/2 miles from Lurton. Did you go to school at Deer? I did, my mom did, and now so are my children, my oldest daughter graduated from Deer, she went from kindergarden on and so has my youngest she is in the 11th grade at Deer. I love your stories about Lurton and growing up there, I knew alot of the people you talk about in your memories of Lurton, I knew Uncle Mitchell Hefley or Squire as most called him, and his wife Ollie, Do you remember Bailey Nichols and Eula Hayden? I knew Herbert Hampton and Alta Lee, Lillie Vanderpool, Herbert was the one who showed me how to remember to spell Catsup. I knew Ernest Daniels we visited him alot. I know his wife Lois, she is a nice lady. I feel like we are losing alot of the old people that I loved so much. I miss Herbert and Felix Tennison. My dad and Herbert and Felix knew each other well. Herbert died in April, my dad in August and Felix in November it was a really bad year for Lurton in 1999, I loved all three. Well Colleen, I hope to hear from you again. And hope to see some more of your stories on Judy's site, they are so good.
Lori

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Message From: Anita De La Rosa

Hi everyone,
I will do look ups in the Arkansas Death Records index for members of this list, Deaths 1914-1948. Give name approx year if known but not needed
Anita

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Message From: Jetty Baker

Thanks Anita, that is very sweet of you.
John Thomas Snow
Thanks
Jetty

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Message From: Barbara Crutchfield

Anita,
Afraid this request is "clueless" but could you look up the name John Wellaton Moten? I believe he's buried in Newton County...born 1855.
Thank you for any effort!
Barbara

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Message From: Vonda Dihm

Sorry Ray,
I don't know much about Rentha Young. I know she was born 22 September 1900, died 7 July 1994 in Stockton, CA and she married Harley Daniels. In 1920 they were living in Jefferson Township, Newton Co. and they had three children. After 1920 they had three more - one as late as 1942 (possible but I'm not sure about that). I do not know who Rentha's parents are siblings were. A search of the 1910 Newton Co. census should answer that question. If I get a chance I will check it out. I see Isaac B. Young (1889 - 1973) and Julia M. Richardson Young (1889 - 1982) are buried in the Swain Cemetery.
Vonda

NewtonCoFamilies@prodigy.net writes:

Vonda,
Would this Renta Young have a brother named Isaac Young? I have him as marrying Julie Richardson, the youngest daughter of my gg-grandfather Frederick. If they are brother and sister I have no other info on him at all. I know he is related to a bunch of other Youngs from that area. By the way, my mother's maiden name was Young (from Texas) and so is my wife's (Okla.) Small world, lol.
Ray

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Message From: Vonda Dihm

John W. Moten is buried in the Western Grove Cemetery - born 14 Jan 1955 died 24 March 1943. Wife of John W - Julia M. Pope Moten - born 18 Aug 1860 died 13 April 1931.
Vonda

NewtonCoFamilies@prodigy.net writes:

Message From: Barbara Crutchfield
Anita,
Afraid this request is "clueless" but could you look up the name John Wellaton Moten? I believe he's buried in Newton County...born 1855.
Thank you for any effort!
Barbara

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Message From: Ray Richardson

Vonda,
Thanks for that info on An(n)ias Daniels and his family I'd like to have any other information on them you might have such as dates and all. I'm adding them to my records.
Ray

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Message From: Barbara Crutchfield

Vonda, Thanks so very much!! I'm trying to figure out how his Mother is related.....Martha Moten....don't know if on Jones or Crutchfield side. I believe in the 1860 census, it mentioned that she was about 30 years old. Can't find her after that census. Thanks.
Barbara

John W. Moten is buried in the Western Grove Cemetery - born 14 Jan 1955 died 24 March 1943.
Wife of John W - Julia M. Pope Moten - born 18 Aug 1860 died 13 April 1931.

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Message From: Doris Moore

I would love a lookup please in the death records for Florence Coffman...died about 1919-1921, probably Pope co.
Thanks so much!!
Doris Moore


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Message From: Ella Porter

Anita,
How nice of you to volunteer this look-up service. Do you have a James Samuel Stephens, 1920 or after? Probably Newton County. Thanks so much.
Ella :-)

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Message From: Judy Tate

Dear Jetty,
Do you recall ever hearing the name of that Granny Woman? Great great grandma Samarah Thomas Coffee Lovell Curtis (married three times) was a granny woman. As were a couple of other females in my family. The name Ponder has been mentioned on the list lately...there was an 'old lady Ponder' who was a granny woman out toward Parthenon or Murray I think...don't know her given name, never heard it, but have heard mention of her through the years. And there was a Gumrey Hilton that was an herb man that did baby dilvering too. Am always interested in hearing about all the old ways...the treating with herbs and living by signs.
Take Care,
Judy Tate

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Message From: Jetty Baker

Mother had all of us kids at home. She told me I was born so fast, she hardly had time to get to bed. The cord was wrapped around my neck twice. She said she just unwrapped it and layed me on her stomach till the granny woman got there. I can't imagine!!!!!She had 4 of us at home . Then with the 5th and 6th she went to hospital in Harrison. After the 5th she had problems getting out of bed because something happened to her hips. she couldn't get out of bed for several days. We never did find out what the problem was. Jetty

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Message From: Judy Tate

Grapette was really good...I read in a book about how the recipe was sold and never had been marketed again...I'll try to find that...maybe we could get a petition up and prompt them to bottle it again, huh :o). And momma always talked about an orange pop that was really good, can't recall what she called it...seems I remember her saying it even had little pieces of orange in it?? She has also talked of the times when the family would go picking cotton...they would go over toward Paragould, Arkansas and Kenett(sp?), Missouri and also down toward Conway, Arkansas...depending on the year. They'd go in the fall when the cotton was ready for picking and stay there until the crop was all in and then come back home to Swain. She has told of how early in the morning as they went out to the cotton patch they'd pick up water melons that had been left on the vine in the field and bust them open and eat them for breakfast. They'd be cool and perfect ripe, she said they were the best tasting she could ever remember having. It was on one of those cotton picking outings that she first remembers drinking some Grapette. And she always said it was so very good. The othe day I replied to an email from Nancy Jane Balmer...am pasting a portion of it here, as it refers to a Grapette bottle: my goodness, watching two 2yr olds and one 1 yr old...you must be knee deep in diapers at times :o). Just imagine way back when...when women had a baby every year or so...and no disposable diapers or washing machines...they had a scrub board and cold water from a well or spring. My momma came from a family of eleven. And they raised up in the poorest back country of Newton County. Momma has told me that when a baby wet, they just took the diaper (cloth) off and hung it over something to dry and then it would be used again when needed...didn't wash 'em until they had been filled with a mess. And if a baby had diaper rash, there were no ointments or store bought powders. Grandma would save old mud dobber nest (they are kind of like a wasp, but their nests are made of mud)...she would find their nests in barns, in the house or underside of rock overhangs. Anyway, she would then crumble them in her hand and dust the baby bottoms with it. And babies were not fed formulas, nor even given a bottle...what was a bottle? When my grandma's last baby was young, grandma took sick. It was when the war broke out...she was worrying over one of her brothers getting drafted and over her three oldest boys having to go into the army. Anyway, she took bad sick and could not nurse her baby. My great grandma told grandpa to make a sugar tit for the baby, and give that to him until Pet milk (evaporated milk) an a calf nipple could be ordered through the little community store (a corner of a room in someone's house) . So they took a white rag and put a little bit of sugar in the center and then twisted it...making a nipple sized shape. they then dipped it in strong coffee to get it a bit wet and stuck it in the baby's mouth. He finally took it...or he would have starved...the nipple came into town about two weeks later...they stretched the nipple over an old Grapett pop bottle. And then he was all set...I can just invision that contraption stuck in a little baby's mouth :o).
Take Care,
Judy Tate

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Message From: Dale Flores

Anita,
Thank you for the offer, I'm a new member to the list. I'm interested in Isaac Pack. Most likely Newton Co., but could be elsewhere.
Dale Flores

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Message From: Vonda Dihm

Ray,
I do not have any other info on Anais and family. I find them on the 1920 Newton Co census and it shows that Claude was born 1915, Lola 1917 and Darrell 1919. All the others were born after 1920. Sorry, but that is all I have.
Vonda

NewtonCoFamilies@prodigy.net writes:

Message From: Ray Richardson

Vonda,
Thanks for that info on An(n)ias Daniels and his family I'd like to have any other information on them you might have such as dates and all. I'm adding them to my records.
Ray

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Message From: Ruth Barnes