Message From: Colleen Haynes Rongey
Hi Lori...I went to Lurton School with Lois and Athel...he was a sweet
man and a great talented fiddler...He could dance real good, too...He was
too shy to ask me to dance, so I would ask him maybe one dance in the
evening and he always said, "I don't keer"...when I said, "A, do you want to
dance with me?"
EL has told me something about there being two different Dan Hefleys..One
lived up the Creek at the head of Big Creek and he says he is related to
that one...he said the Lurton Dan Hefley came in from the north someplace
and he did not think them related...If you have a ged com I would like that
and I can print it out for him. I don't know anything about them that far
back.
Also, Carrol and Errol (her twin brother) were born on April 8, 1938 in the
middle of the worst snowstorm that year...there at Lurton in our old
house...I remember the day very well..
Thanks for your info...Colleen
<< Message From: Lori Reddell
Dear Colleen,
My mother's sister Mildred Dotson is married to Russell Heffley, EL's
brother.
And in my research I have found that EL's mother and father are 3rd cousins
and they are related to the Dan Hefley bunch alot.
I've already told Aunt Mildred this and she didn't like it much, and I don't
blame her but all of Newton County are related somewhere along the way. But
Uncle Toad was the only child in that family who spelled his name with 2F's
some of his children only used the 1F version. But they are related to Uncle
Dan's family on both sides. I can send you a gedcom file if you want, it has
alot of information on the Heffley's or Hefley's in it. Do you know when
Carol's birthday is? Aunt Mildred didn't know when their anniversary was or
when their son's birthday was. I would love to hear the stories EL has told
you. Aunt Mildred said Athel or 'A' as everyone called him, could play the
fiddle so good, she said he had a heart of gold.
Lois the only sister Russell and EL have left living fell on this ice and
broke her hip, she had to have surgery and she just got out of the hospital
two days ago, she is doing alot better. But uncle Russ isn't doing so great
after he lost Custard, and both his sister's in 3 weeks time and my daddy
died in between his two sister's he and my dad were very close, he has just
given up all hope. He has Alzimer's and is going down hill, not fast but you
can still tell he isn't doing so good.
Colleen it sure was good talking to you, would love to hear about EL's
stories and to talk to you some more.
Lori Reddell
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Message From: Freda Carpenter
Vonda,
The only thing I have right now on Lewis is a picture of his headstone I
took at the Snow Cemetery.I was hoping to do some more digging to find more
about him but have been so involved in my own line I forgot all about until
I was re-doing my Cemetery albumn to send to Judy then seen your email.
Freda
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Message From: Colleen Haynes Rongey
Hello again, Lori...Glad to hear from you again...and no, I did not mean
to
sound offended in any way. I really dont know personally anything about the
Hefleys except what EL has told me..And you are right about all the
cousins...You may be the niece he has told me was in to genealogy and I told
him I didn't know you...so now I do..and glad to meet you, too. Good luck
in
your research...Colleen
<< Message From: Lori Reddell
Dear Colleen,
I hope I didn't offend you. Believe me I have nothing but love and respect
for the people of Newton County. I wasn't born here, but have been raised
here for the last 30 years and I love this place and the people. My mother
was born and raised in Newton County and after my daddy died I got
interested
in genealogy. It got so my family wanted to know where I
had moved they didn't see me anymore. Just between me and you, I think they
wanted to know where I was because the laundry and dished wasn't done,
something they were not used to. To say this has taken over my life would be
putting it mildly. I LOVE GENEALOGY. And the fact that I'm related to almost
every family in a 40 mile radius didn't help. When I got started I went to
the oldest child in mom's family and that being Aunt Mildred Dotson who
married Russell L. Heffley and got as much information as I could and then
hit the library's and the court house and then with ALOT OF HELP from people
on the internet with the same family I found that the Heffley's and the
Hefley's were in fact very much related. Aunt Mildred didn't like it either
she said they were from different families and they were not related and
they
were, I felt like I had done something bad by finding out this information.
But in fact I couldn't change history, nor would I want to. It's not just
the
Heffley/Hefley it is the Dotson/Dodson the Reddell/Riddell the Smith's the
Campbell's ect. ect. I found out after 23 years of marriage I was 4th
cousins
to my husband, well there wasn't a whole lot I could do about it, I didn't
like it, but you can't throw away 23 years of marriage and 2 kids for that,
besides what would I do with the 2 kids, no one in their right mind would
want mine. haha You know like I told Aunt Mildred, back in the old days when
all this started kids didn't have cars or trucks or phones where they could
look for a mate somewhere else, they took what was there and some of them
I'm
sure didn't know they were related, some did, they were told that is a
different set, they are not related to us, when in fact they were related
alot. My husband and I have the same great uncle Cassell Campbell, uncle
Cassell married Freddy my husband's great aunt Annie Reddell and she died,
then he married my great aunt Perlie Dotson. And also Freddy's grandpa
Richard Reddell married his 1/2 neice and alot of people don't know that
because they didn't have any children listed for John Anthony Reddell and
Arizona Freeman when in fact they had 5 children, one of them being Effie
Jane Reddell who Richard McKinley Reddell married. So alot of families are
married to cousin's even mine. But that doesn't change the fact that Newton
County has the nicest people and they are very lovely people who would do
anything for anybody even in this day and age. Their just good people. But I
would really like to talk to you again Colleen and to hear EL stories.
Lori
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Message From: Vonda Dihm
Freda,
If you ever decide to "start digging" let me know. I have a lot of info and
will be glad to share. Many Lewis Daniels descendants have shared with me
and I reference them as my sources in the footnotes.
Vonda
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Message From: Larry Henderson
Hi Judy!
I can't believe that you responded so quickly!I'm grateful
and impressed.I don't all of Lark's brothers' and sisters.I know his
youngest
brother was named Edgar.He passed away in1987 of Alzeiheimer's disease.Lark
also had a sister named Mary who died a couple of years ago.She was one day
shy of being 100 years old!My aunt Inez Henderson ,who is still living ,said
Lark's parents were named John and Betty[or is it Bettie?}.I don't know the
signifigance of his middle name,unfortunatley.I guess I'm doing this for 2
reasons,one to just find out who my ancestors really are,and I'm trying
desperatley to find out where the Cherokee {who?!}connection is in the
Henderson line.I'm sure it probably is on Lark's side and Delphia's
[grandma]side.Grandma looked like she was full-blooded Indian.She would
never
tell my mother what the truth was.Maybe it was not something to be proud of
then?Thank you for helping me,sorry to bother you.I have felt helpless for
years about this.Delphia's parents names were James and Mary Jane
Henderson.
Take care,
Larry....
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Message From: Ella Porter
Hello Lori,
Della Hattie George was b. 3/31/1868 d. 8/29/1939
William Gaither Duck was b. 10/26/1857 (tombstone according to the cemetery
listing which I think is on this site) My records show 1852, can't remember
where I got the date. The 1920 census show him as 61 which would make it
1859. It is hard to read so it may be that he was 67 which would make it
1853. Take your pick. W. Gaither died 10/30/1937. They are both buried in
Mt.
Judea Cemetery. I thought I had taken a picture of their gravestone when I
was there this past summer but cannot locate it.
I think your Della is listed on the 1920 census living nearby William
Gaither
family. 4 of her children are listed but it is hard to read so wouldn't want
to guess at the names. It may just be my copy, someone else may have a
better
copy. It looks like the census taker may have dropped the D in Della and
given her the name Ella. Bailey Nichols looks almost like David but I'm
almost sure it is them, it shows her as 30 years old which would be right.
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Message From: Lisa Hamilton
Brenda,
Here is James Cain from Goodspeeds. I don't know if he is from the Cave
Mountain ones or not.
Lisa
James Cain is a native of this county, was born five miles east of
Huntsville, and is a son of James and Mary (Dickey) Cain. The father was
born in Georgia; when young went to Kentucky, there married, and in 1838
came to Madison County, where he farmed until his death, in 1880. The mother
was born east of the Mississippi, and died about 1874. Of their family of
ten, seven are now living: Hiram; Sarah, wife of James Hawkins; John; Mary,
wife of Thomas Boren; Ellen, wife of Arnold Sikes; Melinda, wife of Pleasant
Hargis, and James. The latter was reared in this section of the county, and
even after his marriage continued to live with his parents and work the home
farm, which he bought at his father's death. He is now a prosperous farmer
of 800 acres, a large portion of which is valley land, and is the owner of a
nice dwelling. His birth occurred November 16, 1845, and at the age of
twenty-two Matilda Hawkins, daughter of James M. Hawkins became his wife. To
them the following children have been born: Emma, Thomas, James M.
(deceased), William, Mollie, John, Jason, Felix, infant (deceased), and
Lydia. In politics Mr. Cain is a Democrat, and in religion himself and wife
belong to Cumberland Presbyterian Church. Mr. Cain is a Master Mason, and
one of the influential men of the county. During the war he served as a
private in Harrel's battalion for three years.
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Message From: Vonda Dihm
Ray,
Are you interested in sharing/exchanging info on this Daniels line? Let me
know.
Vonda
Vonda,
I have a cousin named Dianne Daniels Dingman from Arizona that I just
learned
about a couple of months ago and it is her grandmother and my great grand
aunt, Martha Ann (Mattie) Richardson who married Anais Daniels and they had
7
children. They are listed them in birth order:
Claude
Nola
Darrell
Dema
Homer (Diane's dad) 9/15/24 to 11/23/71
Lorene
Howard
That's all I know right now, I don't know who Anais' parents were or
anything
like that. Does his or their kids names come up anywhere?
Ray
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Message From: Vonda Dihm
I don't seem to be getting all the messages. This is the only one I have
received about Lark Bethel Henderson and appears there must have been a
couple before this one. Evidently mine got lost in cyberspace! Mentioning
this only because I am interested in the Lark Bethel and Delphia Henderson
line.
Vonda
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Message From: Judy Tate
Vonda,
The original message asking about Lark B Henderson was in mid-late
November...before you joined. I had forwared her a message from Larry
Henderson, who by the way, joined the list this evening. So Vonda, it was
before you got here and not lost in cyberspace :o). Once I get that batch
of archived messages formatted, they will be online and then I can point you
in the direction of the original message.
Take Care,
Judy Tate
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Message From: Freda Carpenter
I've been missing alot of them as well.
Vonda,
I would very much like to start "digging" again and will as soon as I get
finished trying to find out more on my ggGrandma Winnie Millsaps Snow.
Thanks and I'll be back in touch on the Lewis Daniels.
Freda
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Message From: Judy Tate
Vonda,
Here is the message sent to me last year from Larry Henderson, it is the one
that I had forwarded to Cathy Owens who made the original post about Lark B
Henderson on this list. Larry if you read this, I am not talking about you
:o)...just trying to clear something up :o).
Take Care,
Judy Tate
----- Original Message -----
Hi Judy!
My name is Larry Philip Henderson.I live in Suisun City
[northern
California]CA.My grandfather was Lark Bethel Henderson.I'm kind of lost when
it comes to researching his mom,dad,and ancestors.Can you help me,please.He
was born on Sept.13,1883,and died on March ?1946.I never knew him,as I
wasn't
born until 1958.I am interested in him and my grandmother Delphia Carolyn
Henderson,she was born in 1893.I'm trying to find out about the amount of
Cherokee descent in both sides of the family.Any "clues" would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks so much,
Larry Henderson
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Message From: Diana Boothe
Hi folks!
Probably doesn't apply, and you may all already know, but while searching
in my husbands line, I discovered that there is also a Snow Cemetery in
Lawrence County. Thought I'd pass it on just in case.
Diana
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Message From: Vonda Dihm
Thanks Judy. I don't know how in the world you keep on top of all this
stuff!
Vonda
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Message From: Judy Tate
Billie,
Thought I would pass this on...today was talking with a cousin about
pictures and she mentioned one taken of Eileen and Imogene Smith, young
girls...was taken at Jim Edgmon's place by Clyde Champlin. Before he got
the pictures developed that he took that day, Eileen died. Was last picture
ever taken of her. She is buried at Mossville, not far from grave of Thomas
Harris.
Take Care,
Judy Tate
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Message From: Billie Harris
thanks Judy... I didn't get any respond from my inquiry on the Strode,
Robinson, Harris, Youngblood, Winters families so guess no one knew them. I
have all you know but am getting no place fast... I watch the posting on
the Caseys, Hendersons, Vallines, etc as they were all kind of mixed in
with the Harris bunch by marriage but to far back and to distant to do me
any good. I will keep watching as some one may have a clue yet on the family
of Thomas Harris prior to him marrying Abbey Strode Robinson.... keep up the
good work.
billie harris
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Message From: Patricia Weaver
Dear Judy,
Would you unsubscribe me starting on Wed. Feb. 7, 2001 until maybe The
following Monday? Going in for surgery Wed. morning and won't feel like
checking.
Thank you,
Patricia Weaver
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Message From: Judy Tate
Dear Patricia,
Yes, for sure...I hope that all goes well and look forward to you being back
up to snuff shortly thereafter.
Take Care,
Judy Tate
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Message From: Judy Tate
I have received email from a few of you, off list, asking about placing
obituaries on my Newton County site. Due to copyright law, only those prior
to 1923 are public domain...and because of this, I have had to turn down
offers of sending in obituaries to the site. Permission has however been
given by the Newton County Times and other newspapers, listed below. So...
1. if you have obituaries of persons who have a connection to Newton County,
2. or if other persons mentioned in the obituary have a Newton County
connection
3. and if that obituary appears in the below permissions granted list
you can submit obituaries to me to appear online at the site.
Take Care,
Judy Tate
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Message From: Judy Tate
Dear Anita,
I hope that you don't again end up receiving duplicate messages or messages
that seem to be out of sequence. Messages from the list sent out this
evening are bouncing back from your address...similar to the other
day...delivery failure this time seems to be that your mailbox is full. I
re-configured things to attempt to deliver only once...hope that is what it
take to prevent duplicate emails coming your way :o).
Take Care,
Judy Tate
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Message From: Ray Richardson
NewtonCoFamilies@prodigy.net writes:
<< Message From: Freda Carpenter
Ray,
On your Norton line...I have a little information from my Norton cousins
on Zade Dock Norton 1861-1944 married Mary Wallis 1861-1974 their son Lee
Roy Norton 1903-1977 married Stella Grace Page who is the daughter of
William Monroe Page & Eliza Jane Snow.Eliza Jane is my Grandmother's
sister. >>
Freda,
Zade Norton's sister was my g-grandmother, Sophronia Norton 1859-1936. She
was married to John Swain and their daughter, Myrtle Grace was my
grandmother. Sophronia and Zade's parents were Josiah Norton and Jennie
Ponder. Josiah joined the Confederacy during that war and was killed by
bushwackers in Tennessee during the war. After that, Jennie took all her
kids, about 9 of them I think, and made the wagon trip from Tenn. to
Arkansas
probably about 1865. They were some hardy people back then.
The only thing, I show that Zade married a Jennie Brown and that Lee Roy was
one of their 9 children. I had been thinking that the Snows and Richardsons
were somehow related. I got the info on Zade from some of my Swain cousins
in Washington co.
Ray
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