Message From: Nancy Jane Balmer

Hi Lori
who do you have married to John Bailey Hefley in 1880 census of White Twp, Newton County, Arkansas . I have Martha J. Davis on 22 May 1876 A-258, the book has him married to a Shuler?? maybe a 2nd marriage for both and her married name was Davis,??
NancyJane
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Message From: Lori Reddell

Dear Nancy,
That's who I've got. She is a Shuler with children John A, William B, Phillip Harvie, Frank, David, Caroline, Jobe, Joseph, Robert Alison.
Lori
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Message From: Lori Reddell

No, this Peter lived to be 104 yrs. old and my momma said she remembered he went barefoot and wasn't very nice to children, but at that age I'd be surprised if I was nice to anyone.
Lori

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Message From: Virginia Heard
I have a Pickney, Jackson Collins Mine married into SMITH, LONG, WILSON. WEST Another reason is Some of my Mothers Newberry married into my Daddy's Dewey line so I am double related to her
Virginia
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Message From: Lori Reddell

Thanks Lena,
I have that copy too. And I love it. I love this hobby too, but it is such a big part of my life I hate to call it a hobby or my work. Either way I love it.
Lori

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Message From: Lina Boyd
The book we have is New Ozark Cousins. Appreciate the thank you. We sure do enjoy this hobby.
Lina

> >Message From: Lori Reddell
> >Dear Lena,
>This is Lori Reddell the one who called Boyd about Margaret Emaline
>Standridge. I was wondering if you can tell me if the book you have is The
>New Ozark Cousins, or just Ozark Cousins?
>If it is just Ozark Cousins then can I pay for a copy? I can even pick mine
>up save on postage I come to Dover about 3 times a week.
>P.S. Please tell Boyd thank you for the notes he sent me, they helped me
>alot.
>Lori
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Message From: Lori Reddell

Dear Colleen,
My mother's sister Mildred Dotson is married to Russell Heffley, EL's brother. And in my research I have found that EL's mother and father are 3rd cousins and they are related to the Dan Hefley bunch alot. I've already told Aunt Mildred this and she didn't like it much, and I don't blame her but all of Newton County are related somewhere along the way. But Uncle Toad was the only child in that family who spelled his name with 2F's some of his children only used the 1F version. But they are related to Uncle Dan's family on both sides. I can send you a gedcom file if you want, it has alot of information on the Heffley's or Hefley's in it. Do you know when Carol's birthday is? Aunt Mildred didn't know when their anniversary was or when their son's birthday was. I would love to hear the stories EL has told you. Aunt Mildred said Athel or "A" as everyone called him, could play the fiddle so good, she said he had a heart of gold. Lois the only sister Russell and EL have left living fell on this ice and broke her hip, she had to have surgery and she just got out of the hospital two days ago, she is doing alot better. But uncle Russ isn't doing so great after he lost Custard, and both his sister's in 3 weeks time and my daddy died in between his two sister's he and my dad were very close, he has just given up all hope. He has Alzimer's and is going down hill, not fast but you can still tell he isn't doing so good. Colleen it sure was good talking to you, would love to hear about EL's stories and to talk to you some more.
Lori Reddell

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Message From: Colleen Haynes Rongey
Hello Lori...
Am enjoying your letters to each other...(always did like to read mail... This is Colleen Haynes Rongey again...I grew up at Lurton next door to Uncle Toad and Aunt Margaret Heffley...My sister Carrol Haynes married their grandson EL Heffley and they live now in Little Rock...I have heard EL say that his dad was a 2F Heffley and mother was a one F Hefley (no relation) ...His grandmother was Margaret Cheatham and descended from the Sam Davis line on Big Creek...
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Message From: Ella Porter

Lori,
Hello Lori,
Della Duck's parents were my grgrandparents, Gaither and Della Hattie George Duck. My grandmother Mollie, older sister of Della died in 1913 and Gaither and Della Hattie raised my father. If you are interested, there is a picture of Gaither and Della Hattie's family at the Historical Museum in Jasper.There are 2 unidentified children in the picture, I believe they are my father William Howard Criner (the baby) and my aunt Jessie Criner Hefley (the little girl).
Hope this helps your research, let me know if I can help in any other way. I vaguely remember my mother, Ruah Hensley Criner talking about Bailey Greenhaw and also Bailey Nichols. Just remember the names, nothing else.
Keep in touch, I'm sure we both have information to share. Ella :-)
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Message From: Lee Sedivy

Judy-
Thank you so much for your information. I know Judy Woods, she is the one who sent me the letter with the map to the mill. She and I are related through Samuel on my side & his brother Garrard on her husbands side. I have seen your scrapbook page, Great page by the way! My Samuel is quite a hard fellow to find! He appears to just drop from out of NO WHERE. As a matter of fact, he married Mollie under his middle name, Nathanel, making it tough to locate him. (My guess is because there was some scandal involved, don't know if he was divorced from wife #2 or if she died, and ALL of the kids from Marriage #3 were born BEFORE he & Mollie married!) I have sent off for his Death Certificate, but have yet to receive it. I do appreciate your help more than you will ever know.
Thank you again.
Lee
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Message From: Lee Sedivy

NewtonCoFamilies@prodigy.net writes:
<< I believe he may have found Limestone, since that's where some of our ancestors lived. I'll have to check with him on that.
Ray >>

Ray-
Thank you very much! If you would like a copy of the letter, I can send it to you, it comes complete with a hand drawn map. I have no relation to the Ogden's that I know of, I believe the families were just friends. Let me know if you want a copy of the letter. ( have a copy of the map that I can download fro you, but the letter has not been scanned)
Lee
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Message From: Freda Carpenter

I know I emailed you with this information but thought I would post it here also.. Skaggs Mt is North & West of Catalpa County off and near Oark at Hignight Cemetery in Madison County.

Message From: Freda Carpenter
I seen Skaggs Mt this last summer while visiting Bill Beckham. And this next summer or next my family and others are planning a hiking/4 wheel trip from Gobbler's Knob down to the swinging bridge at Walnut, then down Piney Creek to Limestone will take a good part of the day but should see alot of good things and maybe even get to swim in the creeks again.I hate swimming pools,just not the same without having run the snakes off the banks or out of the water so it is our turn to swim.I'm really looking forward to it
Freda Carpenter
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Message From: Lori Reddell

Dear Ella,
Thanks so much for the information. I have a picture of Uncle Bailey he was the sweetist man alive. I loved him dearly. Do you know what Della died from? Uncle Bailey loved her alot. Because he told Uncle George he wanted to be buried by her when he died.
Lori
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Message From: Anita De La Rosa

Virginia,
Do you have a Berry B. West?
How about Cosin K. West? She was born August 1880 in Georgia married 8 March 1896 to George Kimbriel in Newton County.
Anita
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Message From: Virginia Heard

Anita,
Sorry none listed in my tree info
Virginia
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Message From: Ella Porter

Dear Lori,
Sorry, I do not know what caused Della's death. There is a Jearl Duck in Harrison who is the son of one of the sisters, (maybe Della). He could probably tell you. His wife's name escapes me right now, but she is into genealogy somewhat, and could probably tell you quite a few things about Della. There is also one living sister of Della, her name is Grace Gilmore and lives here in CA. Happy hunting.
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Message From: Ray Richardson

Lee,
I'd like very much to have a copy of the letter and the map too. Do you need my snail mail address for that?
Ray
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Message From: Jetty Baker

Wow, don't you just love it when a plan goes together. Ha ha
Jetty
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Message From: Lori Reddell

Thanks so much Della, I'll see if I can't contact him.
Lori
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Message From: Freda Carpenter

Ray,
On your Norton line...I have a little information from my Norton cousins on Zade Dock Norton 1861-1944 married Mary Wallis 1861-1974 their son Lee Roy Norton 1903-1977 married Stella Grace Page who is the daughter of William Monroe Page & Eliza Jane Snow.Eliza Jane is my Grandmother's sister. I also met a woman at Deer in Newton County in June who is descended from Daniels & Young she works as a secretary at the Deer HS and she has quite alot of information on them.I also have quite alot but don't know if they would fit your line or not.I'll have to get all your information from the Newton County Families emails and compare.I also have pictures of Daniels,Young,Taylors headstones I took while there.If you would want any of this I'll be glad to send it to you.But might want me to send it through your regular email.
Freda

> > Message From: Ray Richardson ROLL CALL:
>Richardson
>Swain
>Ogden
>Norton
>Dillahunty
>Cantrell
>Young
>Daniels
>Lane
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Message From: Lori Reddell

Dear Ella,
Do you have the dates of Della's parents and where they were buried and also her children? I'm sorry about calling you Della but I was so busy writing you back, that when I pushed send I noticed I had called you Della. I'm really sorry about that.
Lori
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Message From: Freda Carpenter

Have sent them on to Jack & Delton Norton and will let you know what I find out.
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Message From: Judy Tate

For anyone interested in the Snow surname, I have added to the scrapbook a portion of a census schedule with signature and hand writting of Duster Snow, census enumerator of Murray Township 1900...Scrapbook Item # 426
Take Care,
Judy Tate
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Message From: Vonda Dihm

Freda,
Do you have info on the Lewis Daniels (1858-1937) line? I have info on most of his descendants but do have some gaps I'm trying to fill in. Would very much like to share/exchange info. I know I have at least one Young marrying a Daniels. Renta Young married Harley Daniels son of William "Bill" Daniels son of Lewis Daniels. Harley Daniels is the brother of the Anias Daniels that Ray and I were discussing. I have other Youngs in my book but I don't believe they have any connection to the Daniels line.
Vonda

Message From: Freda Carpenter
Ray,
On your Norton line...I have a little information from my Norton cousins on Zade Dock Norton 1861-1944 married Mary Wallis 1861-1974 their son Lee Roy Norton 1903-1977 married Stella Grace Page who is the daughter of William Monroe Page & Eliza Jane Snow.Eliza Jane is my Grandmother's sister. I also met a woman at Deer in Newton County in June who is descended from Daniels & Young she works as a secretary at the Deer HS and she has quite alot of information on them.I also have quite alot but don't know if they would fit your line or not.I'll have to get all your information from the Newton County Families emails and compare.I also have pictures of Daniels,Young,Taylors headstones I took while there.If you would want any of this I'll be glad to send it to you.But might want me to send it through your regular email.
Freda
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Message From: Colleen Haynes Rongey

Hello, this is Colleen again...
I read your note here and believe my friend Dewey Freeman is Ausborne Freemans brother and he loves to talk about Limestone and the old days...so give him a call at his home in Ohio, do not think he has email...
Phone: 513-837-3492
His Address:
Dewey Freeman
4999 Twin Woods Drive
Dayton,45426
Good luck. Colleen
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Message From: Lori Reddell

Dear Colleen,
I hope I didn't offend you. Believe me I have nothing but love and respect for the people of Newton County. I wasn't born here, but have been raised here for the last 30 years and I love this place and the people. My mother was born and raised in Newton County and after my daddy died I got interested in genealogy. It got so my family wanted to know where I had moved they didn't see me anymore. Just between me and you, I think they wanted to know where I was because the laundry and dished wasn't done, something they were not used to. To say this has taken over my life would be putting it mildly. I LOVE GENEALOGY. And the fact that I'm related to almost every family in a 40 mile radius didn't help. When I got started I went to the oldest child in mom's family and that being Aunt Mildred Dotson who married Russell L. Heffley and got as much information as I could and then hit the library's and the court house and then with ALOT OF HELP from people on the internet with the same family I found that the Heffley's and the Hefley's were in fact very much related. Aunt Mildred didn't like it either she said they were from different families and they were not related and they were, I felt like I had done something bad by finding out this information. But in fact I couldn't change history, nor would I want to. It's not just the Heffley/Hefley it is the Dotson/Dodson the Reddell/Riddell the Smith's the Campbell's ect. ect. I found out after 23 years of marriage I was 4th cousins to my husband, well there wasn't a whole lot I could do about it, I didn't like it, but you can't throw away 23 years of marriage and 2 kids for that, besides what would I do with the 2 kids, no one in their right mind would want mine. haha You know like I told Aunt Mildred, back in the old days when all this started kids didn't have cars or trucks or phones where they could look for a mate somewhere else, they took what was there and some of them I'm sure didn't know they were related, some did, they were told that is a different set, they are not related to us, when in fact they were related alot. My husband and I have the same great uncle Cassell Campbell, uncle Cassell married Freddy my husband's great aunt Annie Reddell and she died, then he married my great aunt Perlie Dotson. And also Freddy's grandpa Richard Reddell married his 1/2 neice and alot of people don't know that because they didn't have any children listed for John Anthony Reddell and Arizona Freeman when in fact they had 5 children, one of them being Effie Jane Reddell who Richard McKinley Reddell married. So alot of families are married to cousin's even mine. But that doesn't change the fact that Newton County has the nicest people and they are very lovely people who would do anything for anybody even in this day and age. Their just good people. But I would really like to talk to you again Colleen and to hear EL stories.
Lori
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Message From: Colleen Haynes Rongey

Hello...this is Colleen Haynes Rongey again...Eula Daniels Nichols was my Uncle George Daniel's sister and I knew Eula and GW Nichols. Eula's other son Herbert Hayden wrote me all during the war...and George was married to Nellie Woodard, my mother's sister...I lived with them a lot growing up, so knew Eula and her family like my own family...
I think Harry Sutton is married to Yvonne who had part of her family from Bass and think they were related to the Ducks...Harry has email and his address is hsutton@yournet.... or try Lloyd Sutton, Harrys nephew and he can give you Yvonne's (she was part Dickey and part Duck...Loyd is lsutton849@aol.com
Good luck.
Colleen

In a message dated 2/1/01 5:42:38 AM, NewtonCoFamilies@prodigy.net writes:

<< Message From: Lori Reddell
Dear Ella,
Would you happen to know who the parents of Della Duck born 6-3-1890 and died 4-2-1931 in Mt. Judea she married Bailey Van Nichols. Biley later married Eula Daniels but they divorced and Bailey is now buried beside Della in Mt. Judea and my favorite uncle Bailey's son George W. Nichols bought them a double headstone, he is so sweet and loved his father very much as did I and alot of other people.
Lori
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Message From: Sheila Villines Six

Judy,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply. After many hours on the internet last night and today, I finally identified Jim "Fisher" Villines as being James A. Villines (b.10/14/1865 d.1/8/1947) with the following ancestry:
Wm M. 'Fishing Bill' Villines (b.1843) & Millie Young
James 'Coplin' Villines (b.1824-Caswell Co., NC) & Jency or Gincy Reeves
Abraham Villines (b.1777-Nansemond Co., NC) & Nancy McKissack
Hezekiah Villines (b.abt.1751-Nansemond Co., NC) & (not known)
Abraham Villines (b.abt.1715-Nansemond Co., VA) & Prisciller
Isaac Veline (b.abt 1683-Virginia) & Ann Armistead
There seems to be some confusion about whether Nansemond County is in NC or VA.
I believe I'll be able to trace even farther back using some information I received through an email back in 1998.
Thanks again for your wonderful work in these endeavors.
Sheila Six
Austin, TX
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Message From: Bert Bryant