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Devine Cluster 3: Related families from Donegal, Galway, Mayo and Tyrone, compared at up to 67 markers

                                                                                                                                                                            March 2012

 

Table 1. Cluster 3 DNA samples, showing mutations from the cluster’s most frequently occurring values in red.  The families represented

by these samples are closely enough related to have had a common ancestor named Devine only a very few generations before the earliest

known progenitors of each line. The samples with results at markers numbered above 37 were tested at 67 markers, the rest at 37.

Results are shown only for those markers where one or more of the Cluster 3 samples showed differences from the modal, or most

frequently occurring, value. At all the other markers tested, the Cluster 3 samples displayed the modal value for each marker. Those values

are shown in Tables 2 and 3. The few differences among all the samples are evidence of close relationships between the family lines

represented, and of a relatively recent Devine/Devin/Diven ancestor common to all of them.

 

 

 

DEV

No.

 

 

Markers with

Mutations ®

 

 

Location & Date

*

3
8

9
b

 

 

4

4

7

 

 

 

 

 

 

4

3

7

4

4

9

4

6

4

c

4

6

0

G

A

T

A

--

 H

4

4
5
6

 

5

7

6

C

D

Y

a

C

D

Y

b

 

 

 

4

0

6

S

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

5

3

4

4

8

1

5

2

0

 

 

 Steps

away

from

Modal

 Values

 

 

FTDNA Sequence #

12

18

19

21

24

26

27

30

32

34

35

46

55

58

59

 

 

Cluster 3 Modal Values

15

26

15

29

17

11

11

15

20

35

43

11

17

22

20

--

36

Tyrone to Pa.  by 1755

15

26

15

30

16

11

12

16

20

35

44

11

17

22

21

6/67

39

Ireland to Va. by 1748

15

26

15

30

17

11

12

16

20

35

43

 

 

 

 

3/37

 50

Ireland 1824 >Ohio

15

25

15

30

17

11

12

15

20

35

41

 

 

 

 

4/37

74

Ireland to Va.. by 1759

15

26

15

30

17

11

12

16

20

35

43

 

 

 

 

3/37

51

Ohio, 1909**

15

26

15

29

17

11

11

15

19

35

43

10

17

22

20

2/67

72

Kilmacrenan,Donegal 1824**

15

26

15

29

17

11

11

15

19

35

44

11

17

22

20

2/67

71

Minisink, N.Y./N.J. 1712

15

26

14

29

17

11

11

15

20

35

44

11

17

22

20

2/67

73

Same as DEV 71

15

26

15

29

17

11

11

15

20

35

45

11

16

22

20

2/67

61

Fla 178 to Miss. by 1830

15

26

15

29

17

11

11

15

20

35

45

 

 

 

 

1/37

2

Loughrea, Galway ~1840

15

26

15

29

17

11

11

15

20

35

44

 

 

 

 

1/37

47

Conwal, Donegal ~1780

15

26

15

30

17

11

11

15

20

36

43

 

 

 

 

2/37

13

Conwal, Donegal ~1790

15

26

15

29

17

11

11

15

20

36

43

11

17

23

20

2/67

18

Conwal, Donegal ~1790

15

26

15

29

17

11

11

15

20

36

43

 

 

 

 

1/37

12

Conwal, Donegal ~1790

15

26

15

29

17

10

11

15

20

36

42

11

17

23

20

4/67

1

Conwal, Donegal ~1790

15

26

15

29

17

10

11

15

20

36

42

11

17

23

20

4/67

28

Mayo, 1826

14

25

15

28

17

10

11

15

20

35

43

 

 

 

 

4/37

 

See tables following, where the modal values for all 67 markers are shown.      

 

*DYS 389-1 and 389-2 are overlapping markers, and a single mutation in the overlapping sector shows as a change in both markers.

To avoid double-counting, only the difference (DYS 389-2 – DYS 389-1) is considered, and shown in the DYS 389b column. The

values for DYS 389-1, which has a modal value of 13, are not shown, since only the differences are significant.

**Individuals not named Devine or a variant, including a known adoption and an unknown Devine connections. 

 

Family lines in Cluster 3

 

DEV 1 & 12: Hugh Devine, farmer, born about 1793, living at Kirkneedy, Conwal Parish, County Donegal, Ireland, 1 about 1826 at the

birth of son Patrick, who emigrated to the United States, through Patrick’s son Edward (1857-1926); and grandson Frank (1901-1972)

 

DEV 13 & 18: Hugh Devine, farmer, born about 1793, living at Kirkneedy, Conwal Parish, County Donegal, Ireland about 1826 at the

birth of son Patrick, who emigrated to the United States, through Patrick’s son Edward (1857-1926); and grandson Martin (1894-1979)

 

DEV 2:  Patrick Devine, farmer, living at Drumkeary East, Ballinakill Parish, Loughrea, County Galway, 1844, through his son Michael

born 1846; grandson John Devine, born 1874, and great grandson John Michael Devine, born 1910.

 

DEV 28: Patrick Devine, living Kilconduff Parish, County Mayo, 1826, when a son Michael was born.

 

DEV 36: Alexander Diven, from County Tyrone by early family tradition, in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania by 1755.

 

DEV 39: William Devin, from Ireland to Pennsylvania, where son Robert was born about 1748, then to Virginia between 1759 and 1764.

 

DEV 47: Daniel Devine, farmer, born about 1780, living at Kirkneedy, Conwal Parish, County Donegal, 1815 at birth of son John, through

John’s son Patrick (about 1854-1924) and grandson John (1891-1971)

 

DEV 50: Martin E. Devine, born Ireland 1824, to Yorkshire, England by 1853, to Ohio about 1860.

 

DEV 51: Thomas Kennedy, born 1909 Cincinnati, Ohio, adopted; ancestry not known.

 

DEV 61: John Divine, born about 1780, from Jackson County, Florida, to Yazoo County, Mississippi, by 1830

 

DEV 71:  Terence Devins, born about 1712, Minisink vicinity, New York/New Jersey.

 

DEV 72:  James Diver, born Kilmacrenanc Parish, County Donegal, about 1824 (adjoining Conwal Parish; see DEV 1 & 47).

 

DEV 73:  Same probable ancestry as DEV 71.

 

DEV 74:  William Devin, died Pittsylvania County, Virginia, 1802, through son Alexander, born 1759, died 1827. (See DEV 39)

 

 

Ckuster 3’s most common values

 

The two tables below show, for all 67 markers for which tests are available, the modal values for Haplogroup R1b1, the major western

European population group which includes all the Devine Cluster 3 samples, and for comparison, the equivalent modal values for Cluster 3 itself.

 

The cluster modal values, which probably represent the haplotype of a common Devine ancestor, differ from the overall haplogroup values at 18 markers, at three of them by two, five and one extra steps respectively, for a total genetic distance of 26.

 

At an average mutation rate of .004 (1 per marker per 250 generations), one would expect to see one of 67 markers change on average no more often than once every four generation, and the minimum 18-marker difference from the modal haplotype suggests the passage of at least 72 generations or about 2400 years from the time the cluster’s ancestral line first branched off from the main stem of Haplogroup R1b1 until the cluster’s common Devine ancestor appeared, sometime before 1800, but probably not too far in the historical past.

 

Cluster 3 modal values that differ from Haplogroup R1b modal values are highlighted in yellow in the table below to emphasize the extent of the differences, which total 27 steps at 18 markers, distributed as follows:

 

FTDNA markers 1-12             6

FTDNA markers 13-25           2

FTDNA markers 26-37           5 (12 steps total)

FTDNA markers 38-67           5 (6 steps total)

 

 

 

  Table 2. Modal values for markers 1-37, in the order reported by Family Tree DNA:

 

 

 

Cluster Modal Values, Markers 1-37

 

 

H
a
p
l
o

g

p

3
9
3

3
9
0

*

1
9

3
9
1

3
8
5
a

3
8
5
b

4
2
6

3
8
8

4
3
9

3
8
9
|
1

3
9
2

*

3
8

9
a

4
5
8

4
5
9
a

4
5
9
b

4
5
5

4
5
4

4
4
7

4
3
7

4
4
8

4
4
9

4
6
4
a

4
6
4
b

4
6
4
c

4
6
4
d

4
6
 0 

G
A
T
A

H
4

Y
C
A

I
I
a

Y
C
A

I
I
b

4
5
6

6
0
7

5
7
6

5
7
0

C
D
Y

a

C
D
Y

b

4
4
2

4
3
8

FTDNA Marker No.

 

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

13

14

15

16

17

18

19

20

21

22

23

24

25

26

27

28

29

30

31

32

33

34

35

36

37

Haplogroup, N=700

R1b

13

24

14

11

11

14

12

12

12

12

13

16

17

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

11

11

19

23

16

14

17

17

35

37

12

12

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cluster 3, N=17

R1b1b2

13

23

14

10

10

14

12

12

11

13

13

15

16

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

11

11

19

23

15

15

20

16

35

43

12

12

 

  

 

  

                              Table 3. Modal values for markers 38-67, in the order reported by Family Tree DNA:

 

 

 

Cluster Modal Values,

Markers 38-67

 

 

 

 

5

3

1

 

 

 

5

7

8

3

9

5

S

1

a

3

9

5

S

1

b

5

9

0

5

3

7

6

4

1

4

7

2

4

0

6

S

1

5

1

1

4

2

5

 

 

4

1

3

a

4

1

3

b

5

5

7

5

9

4

4

3

6

4

9

0

5

3

4

4

5

0

4

4

4

4

8

1

5

2

0

4

4

6

6

1

7

5

6

8

4

8

7

5

7

2

6

4

0

4

9

2

 

 

 

5

6

5

FTDNA Marker No.

38

39

40

41

42

43

44

45

46

47

48

49

50

51

52

53

54

55

56

57

58

59

60

61

62

63

64

65

66

67

 HaplogroupR1b, N=700

11

9

15

16

8

10

10

8

10

10

12

23

23

16

10

12

12

15

8

12

22

20

13

12

11

13

11

11

12

12

 R1b1b2 N=222

11

9

15

16

8

10

10

8

10

10

12

23

23

16

10

12

12

15

8

12

22

20

13

12

11

13

11

11

13

12

Cluster 3, N=8

11

9

15

16

8

10

10

8

11

10

12

22

23

16

10

12

12

17

8

12

22

20

13

13

11

13

11

11

12

11

 

 

Haplogroup R1b values are from initial samples reported in Charles Kerchner’s R1b Haplogroup Project; N=700.

[no change from N=20, June 2006]