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SAMMONS EMAIL ARCHIVES FOR MARCH 1999

These are the emails sent to the SAMMONS CONSORTIUM for MARCH 1999. If there is some portion or particular data needed, you can highlight that information, copy, then import and paste into a word processor, instead of copying the entire file.

Please contact Charlotte Ramsey if there has been any omissions.

REDD to SEALE

Pioneers and Residents
of West Central Alabama
Prior to the Civil War. by Madge Pettit.

 REDD:  Bud,
Elizabeth, Joannah Elizabeth, John,       Josiah, Mary Jane, NancyREED:
Sarah
E.REEVES:  Joseph, Mary, Nancy, Polly G.REGAN:  RatchealREID:
WesleyREMBERT:
HarrietREYNOLDS:  Jemima, MahalaRHODES:  Bryant W.RICE:  F.,
PleasantRICHARDS:
Fatima Jane, JamesRICHARDSON:  Abigail, WmRILEY:  Johh, Mary, Thomas, Tincey
RISINGER:  Jacob, MelindaRIVERS:  ElizabethROACH:  James, Mary Ann, Sarah
ROADLANDER:  GeorgeROBB:  Elias, NancyROBERTS:  Charles L., O. M., Sarah,
William,       Wm H.ROBINSON:  JamesROBISON:  JamesROLING:  AdalineROPER:
Ann
ROSS:  CaptROTTENBERRY:  Elizabeth, Robert J.ROUNTREE:  MaryROUTT:
Margaret,
Mary F., WmRUSBERRY:  Mary J.RUSEL:  John B.RUSSELL:  Adaline L., Catherine,
David L.,       Elizabeth, Levi M., Mary Ann N.RUTLEDGE:  Caroline, Edward,
Emmet,       James, John, Margaret, Richard, SarahRYAN:  Isaac, James, James
G.,
Jason, John,       John C., Martha, Mary, Mary Ann, SusannahSADLER:  A.M.

SALMONDS:  John

SANDERS: Edward, Lodema Areleia, StanleySAUCER:  Allie M.SAVAGE:
John Wesley, MalvinaSCALES:  Aaron R., NancySCHAFFER:  RevSCOTT:  James H.,
Mary, William A., WinfieldSCRUGGS:  Henry F.SEALE:  Amanda, Ann, Anthony,
Barnabas,       Barnabas Bass, Charles, Daniel Thomas,       David,
Desdemona,
Edward Crosland,       Edward Crossland, Elijah, Elinor, Eliza,       Eliza
Ann
Elizabeth, Eliza Matilda, Elizabeth,       Emeline, Isaac Hopkins, J.
Newman,
James A.,       Jane, Jane Jameston Dorse, Jasper, Jesse,       John, John
Alexander, John B., Lucinda, Lydia,       Mahala, Manerva, Martha Jane,
Mary,
Mary Ann,       Mary Eliza, Mary Jane, Matilda, Mortimore,       Nancy,
Nancy
Jane, Nannie, Perry, Robert,       Sarah, Sarah Ann, Susan M., Temperance,
Thomas, Thomas Jr., Thomas Sr., West Allen,       William, Wm, Wm Thomas 
Subject: 1850 Rusk Co TX Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:49:18 -0600 From: Charlotte Ramsey To: Sammons Consortium <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Just found a list of Sammons in the 1850 Rusk Co TX Census. Who do they belong to? 612 21 Sammons Edward 35 SC pg00610.txt 612 16 Sammons Edwin 26 SC pg00610.txt 612 22 Sammons Francis 18 AL pg00610.txt 612 12 Sammons John L. 37 SC pg00610.txt 612 14 Sammons Laura 6 AL pg00610.txt 612 18 Sammons Laura 50 SC pg00610.txt 612 13 Sammons Martha 27 AL pg00610.txt 612 19 Sammons Theodore 17 SC pg00610.txt 612 20 Sammons Thomas 13 SC pg00610.txt 612 15 Sammons William 2 TX pg00610.txt 612 17 Sammons William 65 SC pg00610.txt -- Charlotte Ramsey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7991/index.html
Subject: Rusk Co TX Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:19:14 PST From: "Jeri Beitel" <colorway@hotmail.com> To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu Charlotte et al, That is William Edward, b 1786 VA d after 1850 in Rusk Co, wife Laura and children. Out of John and Betty Walker and on back. Jeri
Subject: PS Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:31:19 PST From: "Jeri Beitel" <colorway@hotmail.com> To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu The Rusk Co Census info also includes John L's wife Martha and their children Laura 6 and William 2. Jeri
Subject: Re: Sammons in 1850 Rusk Co TX Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:41:28 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Regarding the Sammons in Rusk County, Texas (Note: have lost the Terrill information that I had . . . and have not yet replaced it -- so don't have Terrill/Terrell parents in this family group sheet -- yet . . .) Hope Seguin, Texas jouett@axs4u.net Family Group Report - March 3, 1999 ———————————————————————————————————————— Husband: Edward William SAMMON ———————————————————————————————————————— Birth: About 1825 Place: South Carolina Death: December 4, 1877 Father: William E. SAMMONS (1786-1850) {son of John Sammon(s) and Betty Walker} Mother: Laura [believe that Laura was second wife of William E. Sammons -- one of those brick walls . . .] ———————————————————————————————————————— Marriage: February 3, 1850 Place: Lawrence County, Alabama ———————————————————————————————————————— Wife: Frances E. TERRILL ———————————————————————————————————————— Birth: October 1834 Place: Alabama Death: March 18, 1904 Place: Texas ———————————————————————————————————————— Children... ———————————————————————————————————————— 1. M Child: Julius J. SAMMON Birth: About 1851 Place: Tennessee Spouse: R. E. Marriage: 1874 ———————————————————————————————————————— 2. M Child: William T. SALMON Birth: About 1853 Place: Tennessee ———————————————————————————————————————— 3. M Child: John Edward SAMMON Sr. Birth: July 12, 1856 Place: Rusk County, Texas Death: February 7, 1928 Place: Encino, Torrance County, New Mexico Spouse: Margaret Elizabeth BENNETT Marriage: May 8, 1878 Place: Limestone County, Texas ———————————————————————————————————————— 4. M Child: William Ellis SAMMON Birth: About 1836 Place: Tennessee Spouse: Clara C. GILBERT Marriage: August 3, 1902 ———————————————————————————————————————— 5. M Child: Robert SAMMON Birth: About 1860 Place: Tennessee ———————————————————————————————————————— 6. F Child: Frances E. "Fannie" SAMMON Birth: About 1861 Place: Rusk County, Texas Death: 1899 Place: Pearsall, Frio County, Texas Spouse: John Melvin CAMPBELL Marriage: April 17, 1882 ———————————————————————————————————————— 7. M Child: Franklin SAMMON Birth: April 1871 Spouse: Lois L. ———————————————————————————————————————— 8. F Child: Barbara SAMMON Birth: April 1875 Husband’s Notes... ———————————————————————————————————————— Notes: 1870 Rusk County, Texas Census Microfilm No. 593 Roll No. 1603 13/6 Henderson Township Precinct No. 4 Sheet 423, page 165 SCHEDULE 1. Inhabitants in Precinct No. 4, in the County of Rusk, State of Texas, enumerated by me on the 18 day of August, 1870. Post Office: Henderson S. Graham(??), Ass't Marshal. No. 35 and No. 36 Sammon, Edward, 46 years of age, male, white, farmer, value of real estate is 250, value of personal estate is 460, born in South Carolina, male citizen of U.S. 21 years of age and up Francis, age 38, female, white, keeping house, born in Alabama Julius J., age 19, male, white, farmer, born in Tennessee William, age 16, male, white, at home, born in Tennessee Edward, age 14, male, white, at home, born in Tennessee Francis, age 9, female, white, at home, born in Tennessee Mary W., age 5, female, white, at home, born in Tennessee William E, age 14, male, white, at home, born in Tennessee Robert, age 10, male, white, at home, born in Tennessee
Subject: Untitled Document (http://home.earthlink.net/~davisdwd/TenchElvira.html) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:03:18 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "SAMMONS LIST" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Sammons/DeShazo http://home.earthlink.net/~davisdwd/TenchElvira.html
Subject: archives (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:10:02 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "SAMMONS LIST" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Roots Web Threaded Search Archives . . . Hope Seguin, Texas jouett@axs4u.net http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/
Subject: SAMMONS, VA>NC Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:59:20 -0600 (CST) From: saw1217@webtv.net (Alice Sawyer) To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu (Sammons Consortium) Sammons Consortium: Faith Coomes has recommended you folks as THE source of Sammons information. I need help! We are looking for any information about WILLOUGHBY SAMMONS. He is found in Census records of several counties in NC, Carteret in 1810 & 1820, Camden in 1840 & 1850 and probably in Princess Anne Co., VA in 1820, listed as "WILL". We have been told that he was probably from the Norfolk, Princess Anne Co. area originally, and I'm still hunting there. We need names, dates & places for his parents, his wife/wives and children. Our descent is WILLOUGHBY, DAVID & 2 of David's daughters, MARY JANE, m. PETER MC COY & CHARLOTTE, m. ARCHIBALD SAWYER...all in Camden Co., NC. These 2 ladies, born in the early 1830s, are my husband's great-grandmothers! There are later Willoughbys there, who must be a son or grandson, but they are not in our direct line so I'll worry about them later. It would be great if someone else there is working on this line and I can get some help. Thanks! Alice & Jim
Subject: Sources Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:16:55 PST From: "Jeri Beitel" <colorway@hotmail.com> To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu LDS Library Online is free this month. LDS-online.com/family.htm
Subject: Who sent me this info? Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:43:19 -0600 From: Charlotte Ramsey To: Sammons Consortium <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> McClain Notes - Page 1 MISCELLANEOUS SALMON/SAMMONS RECORDS (There are 10 or 12 pages of Misc. info.) Will whoever sent me this info please contact me. I have it ready to put on the Sammons page, but I want the submitter to have credit for compiling it. Thanks, -- Charlotte Ramsey
Subject: Re: WILLOUGHBY SAMMONS, VA>NC Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:38:18 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Dear Alice, I'm not sure if this information is helpful regarding your Willoughby Sammons . . . but hope so . . . Hope Coslett Pees Seguin, Texas jouett@axs4u.net ============= ———————————————————————————————————————— First Generation ———————————————————————————————————————— 1. John SALMON Sr. Born About July 1, 1630. Died October 15, 1679 in Lower Norfolk County, Virginia. He married Elizabeth, About 1656. Born About 1635. Died After 1679. They had the following children: 2 i. John SALMON Jr. 3 ii. Susanna SALMON 4 iii. Elizabeth SALMON 5 iv. Mary SALMON 6 v. William SALMON Second Generation ———————————————————————————————————————— 2. John SALMON Jr. Son of John SALMON Sr. & Elizabeth. Born About 1655. Died 1737 in Princess Anne County, Virginia. He married Jane, About 1680. Born About 1660. They had the following children: 7 i. Richard SALMON 8 ii. John SALMON III 9 iii. Elizabeth SALMON 10 iv. William SALMON 11 v. Dinah SALMON 12 vi. Anthony SALMON 3. Susanna SALMON. Daughter of John SALMON Sr. & Elizabeth. Born About 1657. 4. Elizabeth SALMON. Daughter of John SALMON Sr. & Elizabeth. Born About 1659. 5. Mary SALMON. Daughter of John SALMON Sr. & Elizabeth. Born About 1661. 6. William SALMON. Son of John SALMON Sr. & Elizabeth. Born About 1665. Died March 6, 1706/1707 in Princess Anne County, Virginia. He married Mary EDWARDS, daughter of William EDWARDS, About 1683. Born About 1665. They had the following children: 13 i. William SALMON 14 ii. Elizabeth SALMON Third Generation ———————————————————————————————————————— 7. Richard SALMON. Son of John SALMON Jr. & Jane. Born About 1682. Died After 1775. He married (Salmon, Richard, Wife Of). They had the following children: 15 i. Elizabeth SALMON 8. John SALMON III. Son of John SALMON Jr. & Jane. Born About 1684. Died Before 1741. He married (Salmon, John III, Wife Of). They had the following children: 16 i. Sarah SALMON 17 ii. Elizabeth SALMON 9. Elizabeth SALMON. Daughter of John SALMON Jr. & Jane. Born About 1686. She married FENTRESS. Born About 1690. 10. William SALMON. Son of John SALMON Jr. & Jane. Born About 1688. He married (Salmon, William, Wife Of). They had the following children: 18 i. John SALMON 11. Dinah SALMON. Daughter of John SALMON Jr. & Jane. Born About 1690. She married Aaron SUGG. Born About 1685. 12. Anthony SALMON. Son of John SALMON Jr. & Jane. Born About 1692. Died 1775 in Princess Anne County, Virginia. He married Frances SHIPP, About 1712. They had the following children: 19 i. Mary SALMON 13. William SALMON. Son of William SALMON & Mary EDWARDS. Born About 1685. Died 1754. He married Abiah. Born About 1690. Died After 1762. They had the following children: 20 i. William SALMON Jr. 21 ii. Willoby or Willoughby SALMON 14. Elizabeth SALMON. Daughter of William SALMON & Mary EDWARDS. Born About 1690.
Subject: Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness (http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.ht Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:13:32 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm
Subject: [Fwd: Fw: Sammons] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:20:52 -0500 From: Dolores Samons Harvell <dsh1@erols.com> To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu, sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu, jouett@axs4u.net, jouett@axs4u.net Does anyone recognize these names; especially the 1860 group? The 1880 group is my ggrandfather JAMES SAMMONS and PERMELIA ELIZABETH HURN and some of their siblings; JAMES is my gfather, JAMES BENJAMIN. Could JACOB SAMMONS, 52, KY possibly be the father of my JAMES. The 1860 grouping is hard to follow. Any ideads. thanks. dolores samons harvell Subject: Fw: Sammons Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:56:30 -0600 From: "Rick & Beth Ranken" <rankens88@worldnet.att.net> To: "Dolores Samons Harvell" <dsh1@erols.com> here's another one. I asked for addresses. if I get any, I'll forward them to you. -----Original Message----- From: Darla Hopper <darhist@tcac.net> To: rankens88@worldnet.att.net <rankens88@worldnet.att.net> Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 6:43 PM Subject: Sammons I looked through the census today , found a pattern. Look at the birthplaces of these people. 1880 James 55 TN KY TN Elizabeth 43 GA NC GA Elizabeth 23 AR Simon Peter 19 Lasater 14 James 11 Jospeh 9 Ida 6 1860 Sammons Jacob 52 KY Sammons James 36 TN Sarah 41 TN Elizab. 25 GA Rebecca 18 GA Nancy H 7 GA Martha 15 GA Eizab. J 5 Roda 3 AR William M 3 Sarah 1 AR Robert 30 IL Stubblefield Lucen 14 AR John 30 GA Mary 12 AR Delilah 19 IL William 8 AR Sammons John 68 TN Sammons Samuel 30 GA Hannah 63 PA Mary 25 GA William 25 TN John 6 Jacob 23 GA William 4 AR Monroe 1 Well there you have it, I would begin searching GA index for 1850 and I would look at the counties closest to TN because it looked like they jumped back and forth, found nothing on the Bentons.
Subject: Hearn/Hurn/Hern and Sammons Relationships Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:00:51 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: <dsh1@erols.com>, <White_Bird@email.msn.com>, <sam1977@texoma.net>, <bgeiger@polisci.ufl.edu>, <buckshot@planters.net>, <bigun@eastky.net>, <cscaggs@fgi.net>, <crice@carolinasteel.com>, <crunkjp@midwest.net>, <dsammons@ruraltel.net>, <ullom@erols.com>, <doug@email.kcc.edu>, <homsted@aol.com>, <DWolbach@aol.com>, <ers@alabanza.com>, <FCoomes@aol.com>, <jamsamvbfl@yahoo.com>, "Jeri Beitel Sammons C" <colorway@hotmail.com>, "John Sammons" <jsfeliz@cmc.net>, <JSamm37914@aol.com>, <mike317@juno.com>, <PAPinkos@aol.com>, <alredbp@gmi.net>, <psam@ix.netcom.com>, <sammons@netscape.com>, <ruslaw@bellatlantic.net>, <Rwsking@aol.com>, <bcresas@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu>, <wwalker@ims-1.com>, <vhusband@bellsouth.net> Dear Dolores, Haven't figured out all of the Hearn-Hern/Sammons relationships . . . and maybe these Hearns (Hurns, Herns) aren't related at all . . yet some of the following Hearn information will hopefully come in handy as we begin to put together all of the pieces of the puzzle! Hope C. Pees Seguin, Texas jouett@axs4u.net Register Report - March 13, 1999 ———————————————————————————————————————— First Generation ———————————————————————————————————————— 1. Samuel (James?) HEARNE. Born April 20, 1792 in Hancock County, Georgia. Died April 27, 1830 in Georgia. He married Elizabeth "Betsey" SAMMONS, daughter of Richard SAMMONS & Patsey Martha JONES, November 2, 1819 in Georgia. Born November 9, 1795. They had the following children: 2 i. Ferninand Laurance HEARN ii. Richard Sammons HEARN; Born December 18, 1823. Died February 1844. 3 iii. Elmira Maria HEARN iv. Martha Ann HEARN; Born June 19, 1828. Died August 25, 1829. v. Christopher Columbus HEARN; Born March 20, 1830. Died May 12, 1888 in Jasper County, Georgia. Second Generation ———————————————————————————————————————— 2. Ferninand Laurance HEARN. Born October 9, 1820 in Georgia. Died 1883 in Putnam County, Georgia. He first married Mary Caroline. Born 1830 in Georgia. They had the following children: i. Elizabeth Amanda HEARN; Born 1845 in Georgia. Died in Dawson, Texas. She married William ROSE, 1871 in Blount County, Alabama. Born 1842 in Georgia. ii. Richard Laurence HEARN; Born 1848 in Georgia. iii. Samuel Columbus HEARN; Born 1852 in Blount County, Alabama. Died 1918 in Albertville, Alabama. He married Mary Ann HIPP, October 27, 1872 in Brooksville, Blount County, Alabama. iv. Malissa HEARN; Born 1854 in Georgia. She married James MACHAN, 1876. v. Ella Josephine HEARN; Born 1856 in Georgia. She married Reuben A. BURNS, January 5, 1877. vi. Charles Fuller HEARN; Born 1861 in Georgia. He married Nancy WILLIAMS, November 1, 1830. vii. Lonie HEARN; Born 1865 in Alabama. viii. Quincy Allen HEARN; Born 1868. He second married Ardesia MATTOX (Ardosia W.), December 3, 1844 in Morgan County, Georgia. Born 1825 in Georgia. 3. Elmira Maria HEARN. Born March 1826. She first married Edwin D. SAMMON, son of John SAMMON Jr. & Mary "Polly" B. HARRISON. Born 1831. She second married William P. V. ROBEY, December 22, 1842. They had the following children: i. Elizabeth ROBEY; Born September 25, 1843. ii. Caroline S. ROBEY; She married STERLING. Index ———————————————————————————————————————— HEARN, Charles Fuller, child of 2 HEARN, Christopher Columbus, child of 1 HEARN, Elizabeth Amanda, child of 2 HEARN, Ella Josephine, child of 2 HEARN, Elmira Maria 3 HEARN, Ferninand Laurance 2 HEARN, Lonie, child of 2 HEARN, Malissa, child of 2 HEARN, Martha Ann, child of 1 HEARN, Quincy Allen, child of 2 HEARN, Richard Laurence, child of 2 HEARN, Richard Sammons, child of 1 HEARN, Samuel Columbus, child of 2 HEARNE, Samuel (James?) 1 ROBEY, Caroline S., child of 3 ROBEY, Elizabeth, child of 3
Subject: James Sammons / Craven County South CArolina Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 07:13:48 -0800 From: "John Sammons" <jsfeliz@cmc.net> To: "Sammons Master" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu>, <scroots-L@rootsweb.com> I have a copy of a Royal Grant for 200 acres of land to James Sammons dated 28 November 1771. The land was described as "Two hundred acres situate on a dry branch of Thomson's Creek called Jamey's Creek in Craven county bounding all sided on vacant land." Reference Royal Grants Vol.. 24, page 398. I also have copies of James Sammons memorial for the 200 acres dated 24 Feb 1772. Reference Memorials Vol. 11, p 135#2 and the plat of the 200 acres found in Colonial Plats Vol. 12, p 143 #3. I also have a memorial exhibited by James Salller on 11 September 172 for 400 acres of land situated on Jamey's Creek in Craven County and bounded by James Sammons land and vacant land. Reference Memorials Vol. 11 p 412#1. My questions are as follows; 1. Where was this land located? I know Craven County was probably the northernmost colonial county but I could be mistaken. 2. Does anyone know what happened to this James Sammons. My Sammons line comes from several James Sammons in Sussex County, VA through Hansel Sammons in the Darlington District. I will appreciate any information and assistance that anyone can give me and will share what Sammons information that I have if anyone is interested. John Sammons - jsfeliz@cmc.net
Subject: Sammons Info Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 15:29:10 -0600 From: Charlotte Ramsey To: Sammons Consortium <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Hello all, It seems we have a problem when sending to the Sammons Consortium address. It sends us back an "undeliverable" message. But they ARE going through. I have contacted Scott about the problem and he stated he wasn't aware of any returns. I assume he will be trying to find out why it is happening. Funny thing, but when I send to the Consortium, it doesn't even come back to me as an email, so between not receiving it and then the above message coming in, I always wonder if anyone is getting my message. NOTE: I have just added several new links to the Sammons page. Just look for the NEW graphic. Thanks, Charlotte Ramsey
Subject: Census Data Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:15:06 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "SAMMONS LIST" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> USGENWEB ARCHIVES. CENSUS IMAGES ALABAMA. 1860 Jackson County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/al/jackson/census/1860/ CALIFORNIA. 1850 San Luis Obispo County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ca/obispo/census/1850/ CALIFORNIA. 1860 San Luis Obispo County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ca/obispo/census/1860/ ILLINOIS. 1860 Henderson County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/il/henderson/census/1860/ INDIANA. 1880 Marion County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/in/marion/census/1880/ INDIANA. 1840 Orange County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/in/orange/census/1840/ INDIANA. 1900 Pike County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/in/pike/census/1900/ KANSAS. 1870 Sedgwick County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ks/sedgwick/census/1870/ KENTUCKY. 1880 Floyd County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/floyd/census/1880/ MASSACHUSETTS. 1800 Worcester County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ma/worcester/census/1800/ MICHIGAN. 1850 Saginaw County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mi/saginaw/census/1850/ MINNESOTA. 1850 Benton County. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mn/benton/census/1850/ MINNESOTA. 1850 Dakota County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mn/dakota/census/1850/ MINNESOTA. 1850 Itasca County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mn/itasca/census/1850/ MINNESOTA. 1850 Mankahta County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mn/mankahta/census/1850/ MINNESOTA. 1850 Wabasha County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mn/wabasha/census/1850/ MINNESOTA. 1850 Wahnahta County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mn/wahnahta/census/1850/ MISSOURI. 1860 Randolph County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/randolph/census/1860/ NORTH CAROLINA. 1840 Carteret County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/carteret/census/1840/ NORTH DAKOTA. 1900 Pembina County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nd/pembina/census/1900/ OKLAHOMA. 1920 Dewey County. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/dewey/census/1920/ PENNSYLVANIA. 1900 Jefferson County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/jefferson/census/1900/ SOUTH CAROLINA. 1800 Fairfield County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/fairfield/census/1800/ SOUTH CAROLINA. 1810 Fairfield County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/fairfield/census/1810/ SOUTH CAROLINA. 1820 Fairfield County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/fairfield/census/1820/ TENNESSEE. 1900 Lincoln County. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/lincoln/census/1900/ TENNESSEE. 1900 McMinn County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/mcminn/census/1900/ TENNESSEE. 1920 Meigs County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/meigs/census/1920/ TEXAS. 1870 Austin County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/austin/census/1870/ TEXAS. 1860 Van Zandt County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/vanzandt/census/1860/ WISCONSIN. 1870 Door County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/door/census/1870/ WISCONSIN. 1870 Kewaunee County http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wi/kewaunee/census/1870/ ------- USGENWEB CENSUS PROJECT ARCHIVES: CENSUS TRANSCRIPTIONS ARKANSAS. 1860 Lawrence County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/ar/lawrence/1860/ ILLINOIS. 1850 Crawford County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/il/crawford/1850/ ILLINOIS. 1840 Gallatin County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/il/gallatin/1840/ ILLINOIS. 1880 Shelby County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/il/shelby/1880/ INDIANA. 1850 Adams County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/in/adams/1850/ KENTUCKY. 1850 Nicholas County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/ky/nicholas/1850/ KENTUCKY. 1810 Ohio County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/ky/ohio/1810/ MISSISSIPPI. 1830 Jones County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/ms/jones/1830/ MISSISSIPPI. 1840 Jones County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/ms/jones/1840/ MISSISSIPPI. 1840 Scott County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/ms/scott/1840/ MISSOURI. 1870 Lewis County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/mo/lewis/1870/ MISSOURI. 1850 Schuyler County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/mo/schuyler/1850/ OHIO. 1850 Columbiana County (Perry Twp.) ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/oh/columbiana/1850/ PENNSYLVANIA. 1810 Bedford County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/pa/bedford/1810/ PENNSYLVANIA. 1850 York County (partial) ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/pa/york/1850/ TENNESSEE. 1850 Dyer County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/tn/dyer/1850/ TEXAS. 1850 Rusk County Slave Schedules ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/tx/rusk/1850/ VIRGINIA. 1850 Southampton County ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/va/southampton/1850/
Subject: Sammons - North Carolina Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:05:55 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "SAMMONS LIST" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> North Carolina Census Index Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township/Other Info. Record Type Database ID# 1860 SAMMONS WILLOUGHBY Camden County NC 436 Camden Federal Population Schedule NC 1860 Federal Census Index NC445142010 1870 SAMMONS C. F. Yadkin County NC 634 Buckshoal Township Federal Population Schedule NC 1870 Federal Census Index NC523258405 1870 SAMMONS ENOCH Yadkin County NC 637 Buckshoal Township Federal Population Schedule NC 1870 Federal Census Index NC523258406 1870 SAMMONS JAMES Halifax County NC 445 Entrusia Township Federal Population Schedule NC 1870 Federal Census Index NC523258407 1870 SAMMONS JOHN Onslow County NC 073 Swansboro Township Federal Population Schedule NC 1870 Federal Census Index NC523258408 1870 SAMMONS LEWIS Onslow County NC 076 Swansboro Township Federal Population Schedule NC 1870 Federal Census Index NC523258409 1870 SAMMONS WILLIAM Bladen County NC 406 Elizabeth Township Federal Population Schedule NC 1870 Federal Census Index NC523258410 1870 SAMMONS WILLOUGHBY Camden County NC 153 South Mills Township Federal Population Schedule NC 1870 Federal Census Index NC523258411 1870 SAMMONS WINBET** Iredell County NC 217 Union Grove Township Federal Population Schedule NC 1870 Federal Census Index NC523258412 1818 SAMMONS CHARLES Warren County NC 234 Neals District Tax List NC Early Census Index NCS1a2662744
Subject: Kentucky Sammons Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:30:45 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "SAMMONS LIST" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS Volume 1 Part 1 CHAPTER VI KENTUCKY LAND WARRANTS (1816-1873) THE COUNTIES OF KENTUCKY page 713 Grantee: Sammons, David Acres: 50 Book: P Page: 350 Date Survey: 7-16-1821 County: Rockcastle Watercourse: Crooked Cr THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS Volume 1 Part 1 CHAPTER VI KENTUCKY LAND WARRANTS (1816-1873) THE COUNTIES OF KENTUCKY page 713 Grantee: Sammons, Jacob Acres: 100 Book: S Page: 46 Date Survey: 8-25-1825 County: Greenup Watercourse: Hoods Cr THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS Volume 1 Part 1 CHAPTER VI KENTUCKY LAND WARRANTS (1816-1873) THE COUNTIES OF KENTUCKY page 713 Grantee: Sammons, Jacob Acres: 300 Book: S Page: 47 Date Survey: 8-24-1825 County: Greenup Watercourse: None THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS Volume 1 Part 1 CHAPTER VI KENTUCKY LAND WARRANTS (1816-1873) THE COUNTIES OF KENTUCKY page 713 Grantee: Sammons, John Acres: 50 Book: D-2 Page: 479 Date Survey: 7- 9-1835 County: Rockcastle Watercourse: Crooked Cr THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS Volume 1 Part 1 CHAPTER VI KENTUCKY LAND WARRANTS (1816-1873) THE COUNTIES OF KENTUCKY page 713 Grantee: Sammons, John Acres: 50 Book: D-2 Page: 480 Date Survey: 7- 9-1835 County: Rockcastle Watercourse: Crooked Cr
Subject: David Sammons - North Carolina Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:33:00 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "SAMMONS LIST" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info Record Type Database ID# 1860 SAMMONS DAVID B. Onslow County NC 306 Wolf Pitt District Federal Population Schedule NC 1860 Federal Census Index NC445142006 1830 SAMMONS DAVID Surry County NC 092 No Township Listed Federal Population Schedule NC 1830 Federal Census Index NCS3a1609251 1840 SAMMONS DAVID Camden County NC 023 No Township Listed Federal Population Schedule NC 1840 Federal Census Index NCS4a2266342 1840 SAMMONS DAVID Surry County NC 126 No Township Listed Federal Population Schedule NC 1840 Federal Census Index NCS4a2266344
Subject: Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:33:53 -0600 From: Carole Scaggs <cscaggs@fgi.net> To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu I would like to subscribe.
Subject: Sammons - Benton County, Arkansas Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:49:36 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> History of Northwestern Arkansas CRAWFORD COUNTY. page 1145 Thomas R. Early was born in Whitley County, Ky., June 29, 1848, and is a son of Dr. James H. and Fannie F. (Hammond) Early. His great-grandfather was a soldier in the Revolutionary War, and his grandfather in the War of 1812. The father and mother were born in Whitley County in 1808 and 1809, respectively. Dr. Early represented his county in the State Legislature in 1844, and for forty years practiced his profession in his native county. In politics he was [p.1145] a Whig, and both himself and wife belonged to the Methodist Episcopal Church. Having lost his wife in 1859 he was wedded to Rebecca Sammons, nee Cummings, who had four daughters by her first husband. Mr. Early had six sons and two daughters by his first marriage, and three sons by his second, Thomas R. was reared on a farm and educated at the common schools and Williamsburg Academy. At eighteen he began to teach in connection with farming, and has followed that profession since. January 12, 1871, he married Tempy Sammons, daughter of his step-mother. She was born November 21, 1851, in Whitley County, Ky., and is the mother of ten children: Randolph, James H., George W., William H., Willis, Samuel F., John F., Jacob, Fannie F. and Thomas S. Mrs. Early is a Methodist and her husband a Missionary Baptist. After living in Kentucky until 1880 they moved to Lamar County, Texas, and three years later came to this county. In 1863 Mr. Early enlisted in Company F, Thirty-second Kentucky Infantry, United States army, serving three months. On the day of his discharge he enlisted in Company G, Fortyninth Kentucky Infantry, and served until December, 1864. Three brothers also served in the Union army. He is a Republican, served as justice of the peace in Kentucky, and holds the same office here. In 1888 he was the Republican nominee for representative, and ran ahead of his ticket, but was beaten sixty-nine votes. He owns 200 acres of land, 100 being cultivated, and has made his property by personal effort.
Subject: NC Sammons Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:29:12 EST From: JSamm37914@aol.com To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu Hope C. Pees, The list of Sammons names of NC that you posted are known to me. Some I have identified others I'm trying to put into place. The David in the 1830 & 1840 of Surry County, NC, was b. 1805 (Don't know where but I think in Surry County, NC). He is my gg grandfather. He married Nancy Pettyjohn in 1823 in Surry County. They had at least two sons and five daughters. I have no other information on Nancy Pettyjohn that is proven; I can speculate with some degree of certainty on the names of three of the daughters. It seems this entire family just vanished (I would assume that Nancy died sometime in the 1840's and the family split up) - I picked up David again in the 1850 census of Surry County in the household of Susannah Shores. He is listed as married in the last year to Eliz Shores, the daughter of Susannah. David and Eliz had one child in Surry County (Nancy Jane). Some time within the next couple of years they moved to Johnson County, TN. Their next child was born there (David Asbury Sammons). They had three other children there; Elvina, Elizabeth Amanda and John. Elvina & John seemed to have vanished since I have found no further record of them. I have talked to people who knew or knew of them but they could provide no further information. David Asbury is my g grandfather. His son Richard Arthur is my grandfather. Richard Arthur is the father of my father, Alfred Lee Sammons. From David Asbury on these people were born and raised around Mountain City, TN. Some may be found in Ashe County, NC (just a few miles, vertical distance, from Mountain City). I have not yet identified the origin and parentage of the David of 1805 but there seems to be a world of possibilities in the Sammons' you mention and others in NC. I'm sure you know all the variations of the name but in Surry County and Irdell County you will find some of them listed as Psalmons. That really makes the search more difficult. I can also identify Elijah, Elisha, George Wingate, Enoch and many others of this branch. I will be happy to share this information with anyone that is interested and would welcome information that anyone has that will help with Jeri calls that elusive group of Sammons/Salmons John Richard Sammons 1981 Matzen Ranch Circle Petaluma, CA 94954-8596 (707)782-9044 PS There is a David Psalmons listed in the Surry County, NC, census 71 years old, giving a birth place of NJ. Does anyone know who this is?
Subject: NC Sammons Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:34:35 PST From: "Jeri Beitel" <colorway@hotmail.com> To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu Here is another David b abt 1790 ?Co NC w/ probable brothers of John A., Robert, and Lewis B. David m Betsy Elizabeth Sammons(don't know if that is married or maiden name) Children David Franklin Eliza Margaret 1810 Susan 1825 b in KY Silas b 1831 in Decator Co IN Peter 1833 b in Murphyboro KY Amie(Annie) 1837 Anderson 1839
Subject: Genealogy Information from American Genealogy: A Basic Course Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 01:07:46 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> The following is paraphrased from the National Genealogical Society's "American Genealogy: A Basic Course": In-Laws: terms like father-in-law, mother-in-law, etc. had the same meaning as they do today, which is a kinship by marriage. However, they may also have had different meanings. Father-in-law could refer to a step-father, son-in- law to a stepchild, etc. Cousin: The term "cousin" was once used generally to indicate almost ANY DEGREE OF RELATIONSHIP BY BLOOD OR MARRIAGE OUTSIDE THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY. VERY EARLY IN AMERICAN HISTORY THE TERM WAS USED TO REFER TO NEPHEW OR NIECE. When you see the word cousin used in early records, you will need to do more research to clarify the relationship between the two people. Nephew: The terms nephew and niece were not in common use in the colonies until before the mid-eighteenth century (i.e. 1750's). The term cousin was used to denote this relationship. In rare instances, the term "nephew" was used to mean grandson or granddaughter because the word comes from the Latin term for "grandson" or "nepos." During this early period, "nephew" was used for males and females. Brother: This term was used very generally and in addition to its obvious meaning, could denote a brother-in-law, a husband of a sister-in-law, a half- brother, a stepbrother, or even a colleague within the church. "My now wife." This term is sometimes found in a will and may, as is often assumed, indicate the testator had a former wife, but this is not necessarily so unless he is referring to children by a first wife and children by his current or "now" wife. When the term is used WITHOUT reference to children, it more usually means the testator intends the bequest for his current wife and not any subsequent he may have. Senior and Junior: Terms to denote two men with the same in the same community, regardless of any relationship. This could be father and son, Uncle and nephew, or two men not related at all. Upon the death of the "Senior" the junior could be dropped or if another, younger person had the same name, Junior became Senior, etc. Natural Son or Natural Daughter: indicates a blood relationship as distinguished from a relationship by marriage or adoption. Sometimes it could denote and illegitimate child, though it was more common to refer to such as "my base son" or "my bastard son". In some instances, "my natural child" may indicate children by a first wife as opposed to children by a current wife. Aliases: This term could mean one of several things. An orphan may have used his stepfather's surname in addition to his own. A married man may have taken the surname of his wealthy father-in-law. One son in a family may have taken his mother's maiden name, especially when inheriting property from her family. One branch of the family may have used an alias to distinguish it from other branches in the area where the name was common. A person may have used an alias to distinguish himself from several uncles and cousins with the same name. This problem was not unusual in large families before the use of middle names adopted. In some cases, an alias indicated illegitmacy. Because of all the possible reasons for the use of an alias, do not assume the reason until you have done further research. Given Names: Although you cannot count on it, it was common for the two eldest sons to be named for their grandfathers and two eldest daughters to be named for their grandmothers. Don't be confused by finding two children with the same given name in the same family. The name of a deceased child may have been given to a subsequent child. IN GERMAN ANCESTRY it was common for ALL sons to have the first name Johann and all daughters to have the first name Anna or Maria. The children were known by their second names.
Subject: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - City Directory, 1890 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:05:06 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Philadelphia City Directory, 1890 Name: Sammons, Asbury P. Profession: bartender h Address: 820 Earp
Subject: Obituaries - 1994 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:08:35 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> June 3, 1994 Obituaries Rocky Mountain News Denver, Colorado JOHN HARLOW SAMMONS JR., 50, of Denver died May 17 at Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center. Services were May 20 at the Majestic Building in Idaho Springs. Mr. Sammons was born May 1, 1944, in Wichita Falls, Texas. He established Harlow Sammons Inc., an Idaho Springs certified public accounting firm. He was instrumental in forming Clear Creek Development Corp. and participated in Idaho Springs historical preservation. He helped co-found Outpost Magazine, an RV industry marketing / advertising business. He is survived by his wife, Donna; two sons, Dennis and Paul, all of Denver; two sisters, Betty Hayes of Fairfield, Texas, and Eileen Tidwell of Azel, Texas; and one brother, H.E. McIntyre of Casper, Wyo. Contributions: John Harlow Sammons Memorial Fund, Cansurmount, Presbyterian-St. Luke's Foundation, 55 Madison St., Denver 80206.
Subject: New Info Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:59:30 -0600 From: Charlotte Ramsey To: Sammons Consortium <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Hi all, Just added Hope Pee's extensive Salmon/Sammons Notes to the Sammons Page. Also check out Robert McClains Misc. Notes. And I found some of Dolores Samon Harvell's family in Clay Co AR. in Corning Cem.
Subject: SAMMONS Consortium Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:08:19 -0500 From: Lee Harvell <jlee2@erols.com> To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu Please add me to your list of researchers. Your name: J. Lee Harvell E-Mail Address: jlee2@erols.com Home Page (if any): Personal Info: (This will be sent to the Consortium ONLY - It WILL NOT be in the Archives.) Computer & Software:Compaq Pentium & FTM 5.0 Sammon(s) Ancestor(s):SALMON, Thomas 1700, Goochland Co, VA>Benjamin 1724>John 1754>James 1803>Benjamin F. 1833>William F. 1858. The maiden name of my wife (listed above) was SAMONS. As far as we know to date we are not related other than by marriage.
Subject: LDS files Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:53:45 EST From: Rwsking@aol.com To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu Would someone please resend me the info on the free use of the LDS files. I've lost the URL Ramon Sammons
Subject: LDS Link Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:46:54 -0600 From: Charlotte Ramsey To: Sammons Consortium <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Here is the LDS Link - It is an unofficial LDS page, but has much info in it. We are an Unofficial Internet Site of The Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints http://LDS-online.com/family.htm
Subject: Re: LDS files Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 07:52:51 -0800 From: Dean Wolbach <dwolbach@pacific.net> To: Rwsking@aol.com CC: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu References: 1 Dear Ramon; The LDS online database will NOT be available to the general public for some time. Because of the very high interest, they decided to limit the beta test to selected individuals. Thus currently you need a password to get access. Hopefully, if it all goes well, they will have it open to the public in May or June. Dean Wolbach
Subject: Lost and Gone Forever Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:10:52 -0600 From: Charlotte Ramsey To: Sammons Consortium <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Even though this doesn't pertain to Sammons as such, we all have lost cemeteries in our families. The Death of A Cemetery http://www.starnews.com/news/citystate/98/aug/0822SN_rhoads.html
Subject: Sammons-Melungeon connection Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:47:36 -0800 From: Dean Wolbach <dwolbach@pacific.net> To: Sammons Consortium <Sammons-L@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> In doing some historical studies on TN I ran across the Melungeons. It seems that Sammons is a common surname among them. Also, according to a Melungeon historian (whose name I will forward later when I find it :-)), it is found among the Cherokee. This latter is reasonable, as my sister has a copy of a "passport" giving Robert Sammons (John, James II, James I) permission to "travel, trad, and farm" in the Cherokee Nation (at that time West TN). Robert's possible son, William Benjamin Sammons, settled in Gibson County. Has anyone followed this tract? A Melungeon website is <http://www.melungeons.org/> This is really a fascinating topic in and of its own self. Dean SAMMONS WOLBACH dwolbach@pacific.net
Subject: Sammons: John(NY)>Richard(NJ)>Margaret(W)VA) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 08:39:17 EST From: HallKA@aol.com To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu John Sammons [1758/9 ~ ??] born Orange Co., NY later moved to NJ then about 1796 moved to Greenbrier County, (W)VA. A son, Richard Sammons [abt 1796 ~ 1/26/1866] born NJ. married Sarah Vance Gillispie [abt1797 - 5/1/1867] Richard and Sarah died in Greenbrier Co., WV. A daughter, Margaret C. Sammons [b: abt 1830 d: 5-25-1902] married John Baxter Dean [1828-1912] in Monroe Co., WV. Any information on this Sammons line greatly appreciated. Regards, Keith A. Hall Roanoke, VA Capitol of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
Subject: Re: Sammons: John(NY)>Richard(NJ)>Margaret(W)VA) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 09:42:58 -0500 From: "Bill and Anna Stewart" <white_bird@email.msn.com> To: <HallKA@aol.com>, <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> We have copies of the Revolutionary War Pension Application papers on John Sammons of Greenbrier Co., (W)VA, along with those of his (possible) brother, Reuben Sammons. We assume from your e-mail that you may not have these. For your benefit and for possible interest on the part of other consortium members, we will cut and paste our transcripts of these requests into 2 subsequent e-mail submissions. In addition, if indeed you do not have copies of these, we think you would like to have photostat copies of the original papers showing the original handwriting, etc. If so let us know your mailing address and we will forward a package of the copies to you. In addition (and possibly more than some want to know), this John Sammons (and Reuben) are almost certainly tied into a branch of the New York Sammons that to date no one has successfully linked with the Virginia Sammons. We have copies of the Revolutionary War pension requests for a number of them. This data is extremely interesting because of the key role some of them played in the Revolutionary War, particularly Sampson Sammons and his sons. Sammonsville, NY is a small town near Johnstown NY established after leasing to the Sammons the abandoned estate of Sir John Johnston, a Tory governor. These Sammons are mentioned in the book "Drums Along the Mohawk," and other documentation of the times. We have done little further research on this group because of the lack of any known tie-in to date with our Virginia Sammons. If any members of the Consortium are interested, we could post - in a series of parts - the other transcripts of the above-mentioned pension requests of the other Sammons of upper NY. We know Mary Lou Martin has done substantial research on these people in the past but we have not gone into it with her in any depth. Bill and Anna Stewart
Subject: NY Sammons Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 08:43:15 PST From: "Jeri Beitel" <colorway@hotmail.com> To: Sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu I have some information on this family, but not specifically the John and Richard that Keith mentions. Although possbile ancestors of them are the brothers Thomas, 1712, Mathew, 1724 and J. Frederick, 1733. I do know that the family is supposedly Dutch and started with the name Thomaszen which was changed to Sammons. These records are found in the Dutch Reformed Church in NY. The line begins with Johannes Thomaszen, 1650 and descends mainly thru his son Jacob Richard Thomaszen Sammons. The puzzle here is that this person combined a Dutch name (Jacob Thomaszen) with an English name (Richard Sammons). This is where Mary Lou Martin and I have often considered how the NY and VA families came together, but?????? Jeri Beitel
Subject: An Idea about what we sduty Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:42:43 EST From: Rwsking@aol.com To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu We spend a lot of time looking into a DASH. Hope you enjoy this as much as I did. HOW DO YOU SPEND YOUR DASH I read of a man who stood to speak At the funeral of a friend. He referred to the dates on her tombstone >From the beginning........to the end. He noted that first came her date of birth And spoke the following date with tears, But he said what mattered most of all Was the dash between those years (1900-1970) For that dash represents all the time That she spent alive on earth....... And now only those who loved her Know what that little line is worth. For it matters not, how much we own The cars.....the house.....the cash, What matters is how we live and love And how we spend our dash. So think about this long and hard..... Are there things you'd like to change? For you never know how much time is left, That can still be rearranged. If we could just slow down enough To consider what's true and real, And always try to understand How other people feel. And be less quick to anger, And show appreciation more And love the people in our lives Like we've never loved before. If we treat each other with respect, And more often wear a smile..... Remembering that this special dash Might only last a little while. So when your eulogy's being read With your life's actions to rehash.... Will you be proud of the things they say About how you spent your dash? Devreaux Cane Garden, Box 568, St.Vincent, W.I. devereaux.barnwell@svd.cwplc.com
Subject: Information Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:49:17 PST From: "Jeri Beitel" <colorway@hotmail.com> To: Sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu I would like to remind everyone that all of the correspondence that has come through the Sammons Consortium(except for personal info) has been recorded in the archives of Charlotte's Page. She informs me that the search engine on her page will locate anything that has been discussed there, so if you want a refresher on something or for any of the new members, that's the place to go first for inquiries. Jeri
Subject: John Riley SAMMONS Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:36:47 -0600 From: Carole Scaggs <cscaggs@fgi.net> To: sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu Seeking connections to my gg-grandfather, John Riley SAMMONS, b. 22 Mar 1839 in Lexington, Fayette Co., KY; m. 1861 to Susan MAY in KY. She died in 1869 leaving him with one child, Mary D. SAMMONS. He was married a second time to Susannah A. DILLOW FISHER, in IL, and a third time to America HUFFMAN (in IL or MO). I am not aware of any other children from these marriages. John R. died 14 May 1910 in Cassville, Barry Co., MO, and is buried in the Roller Cemetery, Seligman, Barry Co., MO. This info is from his death certificate and obituary, neither good primary sources! I realize that this is precious little to go on but I sure hope to make a connection. Thanks for your time, Carole Treece Scaggs cscaggs@fgi.net Springfield, IL
Subject: John Sammons Rev. War Pension Documents Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:25:30 -0500 From: "Bill and Anna Stewart" <white_bird@email.msn.com> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Based on an earlier query by Keith Hall, we are forwarding this and then a subsequent e-mail containing information relevant to his John Sammons of (W)VA. This and the subsequent text comprise transcripts of all available Revolutionary War Pension information (from the National Archives, Wash. DC) on: (1.) John Sammons originally of New York, then New Jersey, then (W)Virginia. and (2.) a Reuben Sammons/Simmons that may be John's brother. As noted in our previous e-mail, these Sammonses appear to stem from the NY branch of Sammons for which no tie has yet been established to the Virginia Sammons. So, first the following text on John Sammons: QUOTE. 16.392 Virginia John Sammons of Greenbrier in the State of Virginia [See Note at End] who was a private in the company commanded by Captain of the commanded by Col. Martin in the Virginia line for 17 months Should be $43.33 Your new [Unclear] N.J. & N.Y. Inscribed on the roll of Virginia at the rate of 56 Dollars 66 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831 Certificate of Pension issued the 5 day of August and sent to Henry Erskine, Lewisburg, Va Arrears to the 4th of March 33 113.32 Semi-anl. Allowance ending 4 Sept ?? 28.33 $141.65 Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 Recorded by N. Rice Clerk, Book E Vol 6 Page 27 State of Virginia Greenbrier County [See Note at End] On this 24th day of September 1832 personally appeared before the Justice of the County of Greenbrier (it being a Court of Record) John Sammons a resident of the Said County of Greenbrier and State of Virginia aged 73 who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. That he enlisted in the army of the United States in 1776 or the year 1777 under Capt Thomas Wolverton and Sirve d in the Regiment of this Line under the following named officers. That he enlisted for the term of four months in the year 1776 or 1777 he does not recall which but he knows that it was the year the battle took place on Long Island in Sussex County in the State of New Jersey under Capt Thomas Wolverton and northward to New York and was then attached to the Regiment commanded by Col. Martin, was then stationed on Long Island under General Green, and was reviewed by Gen’l Green and remained on Long Island until he was discharged. During this four months service he was in no engagements with the enemy. That he was discharged at Brookland on Long Island. That if he received any discharge he has lost the same, that his time of Sirvice expired about the last of July. And about 1st September following in the county of Orange and State of New York he enlisted again into the Sirvice of the United States for the term of five or six months he does not recollect which under Capt. John Weigner, and was marched from the County of Orange to Kings Bridge near York Island and was then attached to the Regiment commanded by Col. Nicholas and under the command of General James Clinton. During this five or six months Sirvice he was engaged in active service, was in many scouting parties, in one of which his Capt. Weigner was arrested and broke for Cowardice and that he was at the [Battle] of York Island and the company to which he was attached at the battle of White Plains he was not in the battle owing to being sick. And after his term of Service was out he was discharged at Peeks Kill on the North River. That his discharge if he got one he has lost. That he returned to Sussex County New Jersey. And the year following he was drafted in the Militia Sirvice and placed under Capt. Cole and was marched to Elizabeth Town and was placed under Gen’l Windes and was placed there to guard Said Town and Amboy and sirved one month at this time and then was relieved. And about two months after this he was called to sirve another month at same place and then returned to Sussex County after this months sirvice was expired some time he was called upon to sirve a third month and so on until he sirved four or five months at different times at Elizabeth Town and Amboy one month at a time. And that he recollects that one of his captains names was Stull and that another name was Elsill. And that during this sirvice a number of the British army was stationed on Stratton Island and some skirmishing took place with them. And that he was drafted and marched on to the Battle at Germantown. He was not in the Battle at Germantown owing to an injury he received in his foot but that Capt. Elsill’s company to which he belonged was in the battle. And that he sirved one month or upwards this tower [tour] and returned to home Sussex County. And that he was called on frequently on scouting parties or as an Indian spy towards the head waters of Delaware river about four or five different towers. Sometimes he served in these towers eight, ten or twelve days at a time in all he believes he sirved about two months or upwards. In the year 1781 he either enlisted or was drafted for three months he does not now recollect which under Capt. David McCambly in Orange County New York and was station at the Fish Kills on the North river in the Regiment commanded by Col. Hathpor and then sirved out his three months and was discharged at Fish kills. If he received any discharge, he does not now recollect what has become of the discharge. That he has no documentary evidence and that he knows of no persons whose testimony he can with convenience procure except the evidence of Robert Buckhannon that he does herewith submit in corroboration with this declaration. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension of any state. Sworn and subscribed this day and date aforesaid Jon Sammons Richard Sammons being sworn in open court sayeth that he was born in the State of New Jersey in Sussex County and was raised and lived in Orange County New York and has heard it said by a number of persons that John Sammons had served in the Revolutionary war and has heard Benj. Sammons his father who is the brother of this Said John Sammons frequently state that John Sammons did serve in the Revolutionary war Sworn and subscribed this day and year aforesaid Richard Sammons Mr. Richard Sammons & John Hempenstall do hereby [word unclear] that we are well acquainted with John Sammons who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that [word or so unclear] him to be [73?] years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and we concur in that opinion. Sworn and subscribed the Richard Sammons day and year aforesaid John Hempenstall [Interrogatory]] Question 1st Where and in what year were you born Answer 1 I was born in the County of Orange and State of New York I believe in the year 1758 or 1759 Question 2nd Have you any record of your age and if so where is it Answer 2 I have none, and only know my age from recollection and from information from the family Question 3rd Where were you living when called into service where have you lived since the revolution & where do you now live Answer 3 I was living in Sussex County New Jersey and Orange County New York when I was called into sirvice. I lived for some time after the Revolution in Orange County New York and then moved to Greenbrier County Virginia where I have lived for the past Forty years and where I now live. Qs. 4th How were you called into sirvice, were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute, and if a substitute for whom Ans 4 In the first two towers [tours] of duty I enlisted afterwards I was drafted except the last three months I sirved in that I do not recollect whether I was enlisted or drafted Qs 5 State the names of some of your regular officers who was with the troops where you sirved such circumstances and military regulations and the general circumstances of your sirvice Ans 5 I have been under Generals Washington, Green, Putnam and Clinton of the regulars and Hathorn and Winde of the militia and Col.s Marten, Howard, Nicholas and others. I have stated all the particulars of my sirvice in the foregoing declaration. Qs 6 Did you received a discharge from the sirvice and if so by whom was it given and what has become of it Ans6 If ever I did receive a discharge I do not recollect and if I did I have lost them And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary Soldier and sirved as he states and the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Richard Sammons and John Hempenstall who have also signed the same as residents in the said County of Greenbrier and are credible persons and that their statements are entitled to credit, and that Robert Buckhorn whose affidavit was taken before Thomas Kirkpatrick, Justice of the Peace for Greenbrier County is a respectable man and entitled to credit. I John Mathews Clerk of the Court of Greenbrier County do hereby testify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings in the matter of the application of John Sammons [need further clarification] this 27th day September 1932 & in the 57th year of the Commonwealth The further declaration of John Sammons in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed 7th June 1832 State of Virginia Greenbrier County on this 9th day of July 1833 personally appeared before me Henry Erskine a Justice of the Peace in and for said county John Sammons aged 74 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following further declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions of the Act of Congress passed 7th June 1833 [sic]. There appearing to be some objection to his declaration on the 24th September 1832 and explanation to be made which he feels well satisfied to do. In the first objection stated that on or about 1st Sept 1777 he entered into the service for five or six months he does not recollect which to satisfy which he will plan this service at five months this much time he is sure he entered the service for and served as stated in his declaration of 24th September 1832. 2nd Objection in year 1778 he served two months and was called upon to serve a third and so on untill he served four or five months at different times at Elizabeth Town and Amboy. He now states that he is sure of having served five months that is embracing first second and third months as intended to be allowed then two months are to be embraced in the five months which he is sure he served in this year as set forth in his declaration of 24th Sept 1832. 3rd Objection is as to the service in scouting parties in which it is stated he served two months and upwards. He states that he is well satisfied of having served in this service more than two months but as it has been a long time and he cannot bring his mind to a proper [word unclear] of the particular time he is willing to place it at two months but well knows its is under the proper time he served. He states he is [word unclear] as to the other service set forth in his declaration of 24 Sept 1832 it is unnecessary to state anything as further explanation of them as there appears to be no objection to them. But he states when he made his declaration of 24th Sept. 1832 he entirely forgot one month and a very important month of his service which was a months service he thinks in the year 1779 in month of June he was detached to serve one month and put under Capt. Richard Etsell and was marched from Sussex County New Jersey to a place called Pyrammus [probably Paramus] near Hackingsack [Hackansack] River New Jersey. During this months service the company had had severe service to encounter in guarding the settlement against the enemy and Tories which were numerous in that settlement and had several severe skirmishes with the enemy in which three men were killed. It appears that he in signing his name wrote the name Summons. He states the reason it was written in that way he is not accustomed to write his name and committed the mistake himself that his name is as stated in his declaration Sammons. Sworn and Subscribed the day John Sammons and year aforesaid before me Henry Erskine JP This day Thomas Creigh and James Frazer came before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace in Greenbrier County Va and made oath that they are well acquainted with John Sammons of said county and that he is a reputable man and that they would place every confidence in his statements. Sworn and subscribed before James Frazer me this 9th day of July 1833 Thomas Creigh Henry Erskine JP I Henry Erskine a Magistrate in and for the county of Greenbrier do certify that I am well acquainted with Thomas Creigh and James Frazer who have sworn to the credibility of John Sammons that they are men of highly respectable character as any in this section of Virginia and their statements entitled to as much credit. Given under my hand this 9th day of July 1833. And I further certify that I am well acquainted with John Sammons and would place every confidence in his statements. Henry Erskine JP NOTE: These documents preceded the time of the Civil War. Greenbrier County is part of present day West Virginia which split away from Virginia as a consequence of the Civil War.
Subject: Reuben Sammons - Rev. War Pension Documents Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:25:56 -0500 From: "Bill and Anna Stewart" <white_bird@email.msn.com> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> As noted in the preceding e-mail you will find below transcripts of Pension Documents of one Reuben Sammons/Simmons from the National Archives. NOTE: At the bottom you will see a note. This is not from the files but rather is our comment as a research note. QUOTE District of New Jersey Sussex County On this 16th day of August, at a Session began at Newton, on the third Tuesday of August, of the term of August, in the year of our LORD, one thousand eight hundred and twenty, personally appeared in open Court before the Judges of the inferior Court of Common Pleas of the County of Sussex and State of New Jersey, the said Court of Common Pleas, being a Court of record in the said County, being a Court constituted and established by the Laws of the State of New Jersey, as a Court of record, having a Seal, with power to fine and imprison, and an unlimited jurisdiction in civil cases, and whose Judgments are only reversible by writ of error at common law, Reuben Sammons, or otherwise called Simmons, of the age of Sixty one years, or thereabouts, resident in the township of Frankford,, in the County of Sussex and State of New Jersey, who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his oath declare that he served in the Revolutionary War, as follows – 1st. He enlisted and served in the Company of Captain William Hellams [or Helms?] of the second New Jersey Regiment under the command of Col. Dehart about the first May in the year of our LORD, one thousand seven hundred and eighty, or eighty one, for during the Revolutionary War as aforesaid, he remained in the Company commanded by Captain William Hellams until after the taking of Cornwallis, then he was transferred into Capt. Bowman’s Company of New Jersey Infantry,, and remained in his Company, untill the Regiment aforesaid was broken, then he was transferred into Capt. Mitchell’s company of New Jersey Light Infantry, and remained in said Company, until the close of the war, and was discharged at Snake Hills in the State of New York in June, in the year of our LORD, one thousand, seven hundred and eighty three. That on the twenty fourth day of August, in the year of our LORD, one thousand eight hundred and nineteen, he applied for a Pension, at the rate of eight dollars per month, he being a private in the army, as aforesaid on the first day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and nineteen obtained a Certificate under the hand and Seal of J.C. Calhoun, Secretary of War of the United States, and numbered 15340. And I do solemnly swear that I was a resident, citizen of the United States, on the eighteenth day of March AD one thousand eight hundred and eighteen. And that I have not since that time, by gift, sale, or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof, with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an Act of Congress entitled “an Act to provide for certain persons engaged in the Land & Naval Service of the United States, in the Revolutionary War,” passed on the 18th day of March AD 1818. And that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me any property, or securities, or contracts, or debts due to me, nor have I any income other than what is contained in the Schedule hereunto annexed, and by me subscribed. And this deponent further saith that he hath no known trade or profession, but is a common Labourer, and that he is not able by that or any other ocupation to procure for himself a sufficient support. That he has no family, neither wife nor children. And that he is old and infirm and incapable of supporting himself without the assistance of the Government, except by public or private charity. his Sworn to in open Court and declared Reuben X Simmons the 16th day of August, AD 1820 mark Gab. H. Ford otherwise called Reuben Sammons Schedule of Property Real Estate Personal Property none none Sworn & Subscribed in open Court his the sixteenth day of August AD 1820 Reuben X Simmons Gab. H. Ford mark otherwise called Reuben Sammons I, Ephriam Green, [word unclear] Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas aforesaid do hereby Certify that the foregoing Oath and the Schedule thereto annexed, are truly copies from the records of the said Court In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of said Court, on this thirtieth day of August, AD 1820 E. Green Clerk of the Court for the County of Sussex aforesaid State of New Jersey Sussex County On this twenty fourth day of August 1819 before me the Subscriber one of the Judges of the court of Common Pleas in and for the Said County Personally appeared Reuben Sammons otherwise called Simons aged about sixty years & resident in the Said County who being by me first sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provisions made by the Late Act of Congress entitled “an act to provide for certain Persons engaged in the Land & Naval Service of the United States in the revolutionary war[“] that he Reuben Sammons Inlisted in the said county of Sussex in the State of New Jersey in the company commanded by Captain William Helms in the [2nd?] New Jersey Regiment commanded by Col. Dehart on or about the first of May 1781 in the Revolutionary War. That he served in the said company untill after the taking Cornwallis at York Town and his return to Morris Town New Jersey when he was transferred to Captain Bowman’s Company after which the [2nd?] Regiment was broken and he was transferred to Captain Mitchels company of Lite infantry & the New Jersey brigade. That he continued in the Service of the United States untill about the first of June 1783 when he was discharged from service as Newburgh [word unclear] in the State of New York. That he was at the taking of Cornwallis at York Town. And that he is in reduced circumstances and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support and that he has no other evidence but what is herewith sent now in his [word unclear] of his said Service. his Sworn to & subscribed before me John X Sammons the day and year aforesaid mark I John Gustin Judge as aforesaid do certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the Said Ruben Sammons did serve in the revolutionary war as stated in the preseeding declaration against the common enemy and to my knowledge he is in Reduced Circumstances & needs the assistance of this country for support and I now transmit the proseedings and testimony taken [word unclear] before me to the Secretary of War pursuant to the depution of the aforesaid Act of Congress given under my hand & the Seal of the Said Court the 24th day of August 1819 John Gustin [[****Note: The text clearly says John vice Reuben. Since a later document shows that Reuben moved to Greenbrier County, Virginia it is possible that he is related to John Sammons who was also born in Sussex County and moved to Greenbrier County after the war. It is possible to speculate that if indeed they were brothers John might have been in Sussex County at the time and accompanying Reuben and Judge Gustin accidentally filled in John’s name, rather than Reuben’s. Again, strictly wild speculation.]] [Additional Note: File contains the poor copy of an envelope with a postmark of Greenbrier Co. VA, addressed to the War Department in Washington. The envelope appears to have the following notation probably inscribed by a clerk as a record of action: Reuben Sammons’ or Simmons’ application for transfer to Virginia Transferred 29 June 1821 The following is probably the enclosure of the letter: To the Secretary of War or to the War Department I have herewith enclosed to you my application for a transfer of my pension claim from New Jersey to Virginia. You will do me a very particular favour if you will decree an account of my Transfer as soon as possible so I can dray my pension in Virginia against the 11th of September next as I cannot get necessaries here untill I get an act. Of my transfer as people do not like to trust me on account of my pension certificate being payable in Jersey. Your attention will confer a very great favour on an old Revolutionary Soldier. You will plase to direct the Transfer to my self or to Lewes Steward, Clerk of Greenbrier County. I am Yr Very Hl. Servt. Reuben Sammons or Simmons APPLICATION FOR A TRANSFER County of Greenbrier On this fifteenth day of May 182 3 , before me, the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace for the said county of Greenbrier personally appeared Ruben Samons or Simons who, on his oath, declares that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the company commanded by Captain Wm Hellams , in the regiment commanded by Colonel Dehart in the service of the United States; that his name was placed on the pension roll of the state of New Jersey from whence he has lately removed; that he now resides in the state (district, or territory) of Virginia where he intends to remain and wishes his pension to be there payable, in future. his Reuben X Samons or Simons Sworn and subscribed to, before mark me, the day and year aforesaid James Withrow Note: The oath to be taken before a duly qualified magistrate, whose official character and signature must be properly authenticated State of Virginia Greenbrier County I Lewis Stuart, Clerk of the Court for Greenbrier County aforesaid do hereby certify that James Withrow Esquire before whom the foregoing instrument of writing appears to have been sworn to by Reuben Samons or Simons was at that time an acting Justice of the Peace, and is at this time, in and for the County aforesaid duly commissioned and qualified and that full faith and credit is and ought to be given to all his official acts as well as Courts of Justice In witness thereof I have herein set my hand and caused the seal of said court to be affixed on the 21st day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred & twenty One and the Commonwealth the forty fifty Lewis Stuart Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Luzerne County On this twentieth day of August AD 1819 personally came before me Jesse Fell one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County of Luzerne in the eleventh Judicial district in the said Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Benjamin Bidlock of Kingston Township in the County aforesaid to me well known and of good & reputable character who being by me duly sworn according to law doth depose and say that he this deponent was a Sergeant in Capt. William Helms Company in the 2nd New Jersey Regmt. Commanded by Col. Dehart in the New Jersey line in the service of the United States in the Revolutionary War. That deponent was with a recruiting party about the first of May AD 1781 when they enlisted the Applicant Reuben Sammons (sometimes called Simmons) into the said company. That this deponent was well acquainted with said Sammons and well recollects the said Reuben Sammons served as a private soldier in said Capt. Helms company from the time enlisted about the first of May 1781 untill about the first of June 1783. And further saith not. Sworn Subscribed & Declared Benjamin Bidlock before me this 20th day of August 1819 Jesse Fell
Subject: Emory's Path Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:16:52 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "SAMMONS CONSORTIUM" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Contains Salmons information. http://millennium.fortunecity.com/richie/392/
Subject: Pension Records on NY Sammons Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:05:40 -0500 From: "Bill and Anna Stewart" <white_bird@email.msn.com> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> As we noted earlier we are prepared to post to the consortium list a series of transcripts of pension records of New York Sammons who served in the Revolutionary War. Because of specific interest on the part of Keith Hall, we posted records on John and Reuben Sammons. Hope Pees noted to us that she found these records of interest even though there is no (known) connection with her line. In view of that we will post a series of e-mails containing these transcripts. Note: In the past, we have discussed this in correspondence with Mary Lou Martin who had done some early work on the New York Sammons. To date, no one has been successful in finding any link with the Virginia Sammons (of course, none may exist). However, these records should be of interest to the Sammons Consortium -- even without a known connection except possibly to Keith Hall -- because of their historical interest. So there will be some e-mail's to follow. Bill and Anna Stewart
Subject: Pension Records of NY Sammons - Frederick Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:26:14 -0500 From: "Bill and Anna Stewart" <white_bird@email.msn.com> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> (NB: In this transcript as with those to follow spelling, etc., reflects the appearance of the original as closely as possible.) [Word unclear] February 10 1815 To whom this may concern This may testify that I was taken a prisoner in the Spring of the year Eighty by Captain Joseph Brandt and a party of Indians and Tories commanded by said Brandt and conveyed by them to Niaggary and given up to the British from thence send down to Montreall in Cannaday from thence send to Chamblee [[Fort Chambley]] where I was cloes confined for the space of about two years in which time I became acquainted with Frederick Sammons and his brother Jacob who was captured as they told me by a party of the enemies to the United States commanded as they told me by Sir John Johnston. I understood Said Sammons that they was captured in Montgomery County. Said Sammones was confined with me in the prison in Chambley for the space of about tew days untill it came to their turn to carry out our Nessary [[privy]] tub and bring in our allowance of Spruce [?been] ordered by the Doct. of the Garrison in consequence of our having the scurvey ocationed by our close confinement and lying in irons. When out of the Garrison Said Sammonses sot down the tub and made their escape from the guard across the plains to the woods. In about five or six weeks afterwards Said Sammons was brought back to Said Garrison in a Most Deplorable condition from his sufferings as he told me in trying make his escape from the enemy and as soon as he was scarcely able to walk he was again put in the Prison with me and Inhumanly Ironed and in that condition kept untill his Irons was almost covered with the rotten flesh ocationed by having the scurvey. From thence he with myself and others was conveyed to the River St. Lawrence about forth miles from Montreall and confined uppon an island called [Portion] or Reble Island from which place Said Frederick Sammons made his escape by swimming the St. Lawrence a distance of about four miles. And further the deponent knows nothing of the sufferings only what said Sammons told him that he suffered everything but death in getting home through wilderness. And I for my Self do believe that no man now living here suffered more in defence of his country than Said Frederick Sammons has. Given under my hand the day and date Freegift Patchin Subscribed and sworn before me this 11th Day of February 1825 Daniel Hager Just of the Peace State of New York Montgomery County On this 21st day of September 1832 personally appeared in open court before Aaron Having, Samuel A. Gilbert John Hand Henry Diefendorf and Abraham Mariel Esquires Judges of the County Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Montgomery now sitting Frederick Sammons a resident of the town of Johnstown in the County of Montgomery aged 72 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers & served as herein stated (drawn upon his own handwriting) A Statement of the services done by Frederick Sammons in the Revolutionary War aged 72 years and three months. The first was on guard ordered by Capt. Wimple at his house in January 1776 with Wallace & others I think 3 days Next at Sandflatts headquarters at Timothy Leandersey commanded by Capt. John Davis I think 10 days Next was ordered by Capt. John Davis to go with him to hunt some Torys who kept concealed to go off to Cannada in this town we took Thirreff [sic] whole and delivered him in Johnstown Gaol 2 days Next I was ordered by Col. Fisher [[Fischer]]] to go with 4 men to hunt some Torys whose names was given to me on paper Sneeke & Plated from warrens Bush Peter Bowen & 2 more we got them all but one & delivered them in Johnstown gaol 3 days Next I was ordered in a detachment of our militia commanded by Majr. Blevins sent to pursue a drove of Torys we went from [[?Erighnawago]] to Balstown [[Ballston now]] and overtook them one days journey north of Balstown where they had killed a yoke of oxen and was preparing theire knapsacks for their journey to Cannada 66 of them were taken prisoners without firing a gun 16 made their escape. William Walace , myself, and 10 more of our militia was ordered to pursue after them we overtook the 2nd day where they was dispersed five of them prisoners and lodged them in Johnstown gaol 7 days In January 1777 there was a draft made of every 4th man in the whole of our militia in Genl. Herkimers Brigade Col. Cox was appointed our commander I served in Capt. Sam’l Pattingals Company and when organized we were marched to Ticonderoga where we did duty until the Ice went out of the Lake I think 90 days. After I returned from Ticonderoga I run a scout with Solomin Woodworth and John [word or so unclear] Woodworth had the command 6 days about the 1st of May I was ordered by Col. Fisher to run a scout with Henry H. Vrooman and John Fay I had the charge out 5 days about the last of May I was employed by Lieu’t Col. Volkert to run a scout with Henry H. Vrooman and Johnaten Runyons I had the charge out 7 days about the first of July the whole of the militia of Col. Fishers Regiment was ordered to meet at the Village of Johnstown. I was employed the same time by the Col. to run a scouth [sic, i.e., scout] from thence to Fort Miller by way of Sagondago [[presumably Sacandaga]] Sam’l Coplan and John Van Antwerpen turned out voluntarily to go with me we was out 8 days took one prisoner nere Burgoine [[Burgoyne]] Camp and brought him to Johnstown gaol and was continued in that service until the whole of the militia was ordered out to meet Gen’l Herkimer at the German Flatts Except 4 or 5 days when on our march the Col. was informed that there was some Indians preparing themselves to fall upon the inhabitants when the men were gone Immediately ordered our company back Capt. John Fisher to the Village of Johnstown & ordered me with 2 men with me to run a scouth West and North of the lake and return by way of Mayfield. I was out 7 days the Orisque [[Orisque was the Mohawk form of the word now called Oriskany]] Battle was fought before I returned I was on duty with Gen’l Arnold went up with his Brigade to relieve the garrison at Fort Stanwix [[now Rome, NY]] I with 3 more of our militia entered the Army as Volunteers of whom David McMaster was one who was appointed our Capt. and commander and came under the same order with the regular troops when we came within 12 or 15 miles of the Fort met an express sent by Ganswort [[Col. Peter Gansewoort]] informing Arnold that the British had raised the sege and [word unclear] of the Volunteers was dismissed Immediant afterwards there was a detachment of our Militia ordered to join our Army at Stilwater [[Still Water]] commanded by Lieut. Col. Volkert Veeder I was employed two days to procure waggons to carry our bagage did duty in Capt. Abraham Veeders Company but when we came to our Army I was chiefly employed as pilot to scouting parties of the regular troops our militia was discharged about the of October 1778 Col. Fishers Regiment was ordered to Sagondago [[Sacandago]] I served in Capt. Abraham Veeders Company where we built a large blockhouse out 10 days Next the whole of the Militia of Col. Fishers Reg’t was ordered out we was marched up to Conejohary [[Canajoharie]] head quarters at Gosse V’n Alstines part of the Reg’t was sent up to Fort Plain [[a short distance NW of Canajoharie]] out I think 16 days Two companys orderedout of Col. Fishers Reg’t to garison the Blockhouse at Sagondago and keep out duty scouths [scouts] I served under Capt John Fisher one month Next the whole of the Militia was ordered out of Fishers Reg’t and Marched to Canejohary head quarters at Martin V’n Alstines I served in Capt. Abraham Veeders Company one week Next the whole of the Militia of Col. Fishers Reg’t was ordered out and Marched to Cherevaly [[Possibly Cherry Valley]] I served Capt Abraham Veeders Company 5 or 6 days 1779 Col. Fishers Reg’t was ordered to Stonearabe [[Stone Arabia]] where I did duty with Capt. Abraham Veeders Company & head quarters at Old Browns By order of Col. Fisher part of 2 companys kept guard at the Caughnawaga [[now Fonda]] Church Commanded by Capt. John Fisher I did duty 6 days Sometime in the fall Col. Fishers Reg’t was ordered to march to Bowmans Creek where I did duty in Veeders Company until the Reg’t was dismissed. 1780 In Ap’l I was ordered by Col. Fisher to run a scouth with 2 men out 6 days In May the whole of Fishers Reg’t was ordered to the Village of Johnstown where I did duty in Capt. Veeder for one week At the same time Capt. Wimple with some more of our militia officers & Torys desarted to the Enemy I was sent out to sarch some Tory Houses with Abraham Davis and 2 more in sarching Phillip H. Clines house & barn I found John Coyne knapsack after he surrendered himself I out 1 day and night The 22 day of May my Fathers house was surrounded by about 500 or 600 British and Torys at brake of day my Elder Brother & myself was for making defence not knowing the number as I shoved my musket out the window to fire there was about 50 muskets presented my brother took hold of me and asked for quarters. They answered they would give us quarters if we did not fire we gave up our arms and surrendered ourselfs prisoners we was tied together with a rope & travl’d that way to Cannada I was prisoner two years and 4 months. Recapitulation in answer to the questions proposed. I was born on the 4th July 1760 in the town of Shawangunk Ulster Cy in the State of New York I have a record of my age in my family bible & in the church book when called into service I lived at Johnstown Tryon (now Montgomery) County & have lived here almost ever since I went into the service both as a draft and volunteer. The regular officers under whom I served were Col. Scot at Ticonderoga, Col. Fisher of the Militia. I am now lame & infirm & unable to support myself and family. I am known to all the Judges before mentioned & Dan’l Cady & John W Cady & my Brother Thomas Sammons [word unclear] Members of Congress, to Nathan Soule the present member & to every one almost in the neighbourhood. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity from the United States except the present & declares that his name is not on the Pension roll or the agency of any state only that of the State of New York as a bounty given to him by act of the legislature for his services and sufferings during the revolutionary war passed April 20th 1825 48th session page 880 See Statutes of New York and he further states that he has suffered & laboured all his life under the injury he sustained while in service & a prisoner during the late war. Frederick Sammons Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid. Geo. D. Ferguson, Clerk Montgomery Co. William Wallace being duly sworn says that he was an officer in the Revolutionary War that he now draws a pension from the United States. That he is well acquainted with Frederick Sammons the above applicant. That he knew him & and served with him during said war & has known him ever since. That he has read his statement and affidavit above made and has no doubt every fact there stated is true and those in which his name is mentioned he knows to be true. Sworn this 21 September 1832 in open court Geo. D. Ferguson Clerk Wm Wallace We Thomas Lape, a clergyman of the Lutheran church a resident of the town of Johnstown said county and John W. Cady, George D. Ferguson, Aaron Haring, Abraham Morrell & William I. Dodge & Thomas Sammons residing in the town of Johnstown County aforesaid hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Frederick Sammons who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration. That we believe him to be 72 years of age. That he is reported and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the revolution and that we concur in the opinion and we further certify that in our opinion he ought to be entitled to a pension from the government in addition to the bounty granted by this state to him his the services & sufferings and that such bounty was never intended and ought not to interfere in the court with his just claim on the Government he needs it all and deserves it most richly. Few have suffered like him and survived. Aaron Haring Wm I. Dodge Sworn and subscribed the day Abm Morrell and year aforesaid in open Court John W. Cady Geo. D. Ferguson, Clerk Tho. Sammons Geo. D. Ferguson Thomas Sape And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier & served as he stated and the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Thomas Sape who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in the town and county aforesaid & that John W. Cady, George D. Ferguson, Aaron Haring, Abraham Morrell & William Dodge & Thomas Sammons who have also signed the same are all of them resident in the town and county aforesaid and are credible persons and their statement is entitled to credit. I, Geo. D. Ferguson, clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of said County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Frederick Sammons for a pension. In testimony whereof I have herewith set my hand and seal of office this 21 September 1832 Geo. D. Ferguson Amendatory Affidavit Montgomery County Personally appeared before me the undersigned Justice of the Peace in and for the Town of Johnstown in said County Frederick Sammons who being duly sworn deposeth and saith that at the time he made his declaration for a pension he did not know that it was necessary to state the time of service positive and being a prisoner of war 2 years and 4 months did not think it necessary but being requested he will comply with pleasure and since that ti me has recollected some things which had slipped his memory in his Declaration: he finds no material mistake except some things have been omitted in the first service he did for Capt. Wimple he neglected one tour of 6 days under Capt. Fisher which would make it nine days insted of three at that time where he has said (I think) he was correct in the time I shall now make a statement in a tabular form which shall be correct Months Days 1776 January and February Served under Capt. Wimple & Fisher 9 Served under Captain John Davis at Sandflatts 10 Was ordered by Col. Fisher hunting Torys 3 ditto ditto 2 Ditto under the command of Maj’r Blarns in persute of a band of Torys 7 1777 January 1st marched to Ticonderoga under command of Col Cox in Capt. Petinagal’s company 3 About the middle of April went with Woodward Scouth by order of Col. Fisher 6 May By order of Col. Fisher run scouth with Vroorman and Fay 5 By order of Lieut. Col. Veeder run scouth with Vroorman and Runyons 7 July 1st By order of Col. Fisher run scouth from Johnstown to Fort Miller with Sam’l Compton and John Van Antwerpen and was continued in that service until the 3rd day August 20 August 3rd the whole Militia of Col. Fishers Reg’t marched to the Orisque [[Oriskany?]] Battle I was ordered on a scouth as stated in my 16 declaration and when returned from the scouth joined a Company of Volunteers commanded by Capt. David Maslee and went with the Army commanded by Gen’l Arnold September there was a detachment of our militia ordered to Stilwater commanded by Lieut. Col. Veeder served in Capt. Veeders Company 12 1778 ordered by Col. Fisher to Sagondago to build a Blockhouse I served in Capt. Ab’m Veeders company 10 Sept. two companys was ordered out of Col. Fishers Reg’t to guard the Blockhouse at Sagondago where I served in Capt. Fishers company 1 Next the whole of Col. Fishers Militia marched to Canajohary I served in Capt. Fishers Company 7 Late in the fall Next Col. Fishers Reg’t marched to Cherwaly I served in Capt. Veeders company 5 1779 Col. Fishers Reg’t was ordered to Stonearaby. I did duty in Capt Abrahams Company three weeks 21 By order of Col. Fisher I did duty at Caughnawaga Church Commanded by Capt. John Fisher 6 Oct I marched with Col. Fishers Reg’t to Bowman Creek and did duty in Capt. Abraham Veeders Company 18 1780 I was ordered by Col. Fisher to run a scouth out 6 May I did duty in Johnstown under Capt. Veeder 7 Next and last I hunted Torys one day 1 11 17 I was taken in arms a prisoner of war by the British and Torys taken to Cannada and lodged in Chamblee gaol from whence I made my escape but was retaken before I got home and back to Cannada where I was treated most inhumanely See Gen’l Patchen affidavit hereto annexed on the 17th of Aug 1782 I made my escape from and traveled the wilderness without clothing or provisions 14 days and arrived in Balstown then Albany County Imprisonment in Cannada from the 20th May 1780 to the second of September 1782 when he returned thro the woods 2 years 2..3 Frederick Sammons Personally appeared before me the undersigned Justice of the Peace Frederick Sammons who being duly sworn deposeth and saith that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the exact times and precise lengths of his servis but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned above and as a private sometimes as the commander himself of scouting parties under the direction of a superior officer and at other times as stated above but he claims pension only as a private for the term of 11 months and 27 days actual service and also two years three months eleven days as a prisoner in Canada including 14 days time in returning thru the woods and the same in going there as a prisoner of war taken in Arms. Fred’k Sammons Subscribed and sworn to this 27th day of May 1833 Before Aaron Haring Justice of the Peace of Montgomery County N.Y. State State of New York Montgomery County William Wallace of Johnstown in said County being duly sworn saith that he was acquainted with Frederick Sammons from the commencement of the Revolutionary War that he often saw him in places of danger after an alarm was given and without warning from authority in February 1775 he did duty with me as Guard at Capt. Andrew Wimple in Captain John Fishers Company of Militia in Col’l. Frederick Fishers Regiment Ten days In September 1776 the said Sammons was in Company with me in a detachment of Militia commanded by Major Blivins to pursue a band of Torys 70 in number on their way to Canada & we overtook them in the wilderness where they were almost all taken prisoner. The said Sammons was then out 17 days and we were commanded by Lt. Garret van Burke of the Militia. In the month of November 1776 a detachment of Militia was organized and on or about January 1777 they marched to Ticonteraga [sic] under the command of Col. Ebenezer Cox. The said Sammons did duty with me as a private in Capt. Samuel Pattingals company of Militia in said Regiment for the term of three months and afterwards this deponent left said Reg’t and was appointed Lt. in the reg’t of Regulars Commanded by Col. James Livingston. The deponent saw said Sammons doing duty as a Militia Soldier during the taking of Burgoyne and at several other times during the War which this deponent cannot designate. William Wallace Subscribed and sworn to this 21st day of May 1833 Before me Aaron Haring Justice of the Peace I certify the deponent William Wallace to be a credible witness Aaron Haring State of New York Montgomery County Clerks Office I Richard H. Cushney Deputy Clerk of the County of Montgomery do certify that Aaron Haring Esq. Whose name is subscribed to the jurats of the within affidavits and also to the within certificates was at the date of the same a Justice of the Peace in and for the said county and authorized to take affidavits, etc., and further that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the same justice and verily believe the signatures to the within affidavits and certificates to be genuine. In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said County this Twenty Seventy day of May 1833 R. H. Cushney Dep Clk State of New York Montgomery County William Wallace of Johnstown in said County being duly sworn saith that he was acquainted with Fred’k Sammons from the commencement of the Revolutionary War, that he often saw him in places of danger after an alarm was given and without warning from authority that he did duty as a volunteer with the deponent at Ticonderoga in the year 1777 that this deponent was entered as a Lieut. In the United States Service in a Regiment commanded by Col’l James Livingston in the same year. That at the taking of Burgoyne said Sammons did duty in the army and often went with this deponent and other officers in the service of the United States as a volunteer on scouting and reconnoitering parties that the said Sammons was considered a very useful person to the Army and the utmost confidence was placed in him by the officers of the Army on all occations and further this deponent saith not. William Wallace Subscribed and sworn before me this 30th day of January 1818 P. Brooks Junior Justice of the Peace I do hereby certify that the foregoing is duly copied from the originals in the office of the Commissioner of Pensions J. L. Edward Commissioner of Pensions Be it remembered that James L. Edwards who has signed the foregoing certificate is Commissioner of Pensions and that to his attestations full faith and credit ought to be given In testimony where of I have hereunto subscribed my name and caused the seal of the Department to be affixed on this twenty fourth day of February in the year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and thirty four L. W. Cass Sec’y of War WAR DEPARTMENT REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM I certify that, in conformity with the law of the United States of the 7th June 1832, Frederick Sammons in the State of New York who was a private in the Revolutionary War is entitled to receive Thirty Nine dollars and Forty ?Four cents per annum, during his natural life, com- mencing on the 4th of March 1831 and payable semi- annually on the 4th of March and 4th of September, in every year Given at the War Office of the United States this twelfth day of September one thousand eight hundred and thirty three L. W. Cass Secretary of War Examined and Countersigned J. L. Edwards Commissioner of Pensions State of New York Montgomery County Thomas Sammons of the town of Johnstown County of Montgomery Farmer being Duly sworn says that his Brother Frederick Sammons who is an applicant for a Pension was to this deponents knowledge actively engaged as a partisan soldier a great number of times during the revolutionary war that he was frequently sent out with the Militia on scouting Partys which was a dangerous laborious service that to his knowledge the said Frederick frequently turned out and did duty under arms at various places and under various office in the County of Tryon now Montgomery County. And this deponent further states that he this deponent and his Brother the said Frederick Sammons were both takeing Prisoners on the 22 Day of May 1780 that this deponent made his escape the same day but his Brother Frederick Sammons remained a prisoner and was takeing a prisoner to Canada where he remained until the Fall of the year 1782 when he made his escape from the enemy which this deponent well recollects. He arrived at Schenectady and wrote to Father I went with a waggon and fetched him and a Wm. McMullen who made his escape with him to the place more than 1 week. Tho’s Sammons Subscribed and sworn to this 28th day of May 1833 and I certify that the said Thomas Sammons is a person of the first respectability and a credible witness Aaron Haring Jus. Peace Montgomery County N.Y. State District of Columbia City of Washington Thomas Sammons of the County of Montgomery in the State of New York being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is aged seventy two years and was a soldier in the Militia and state troops during the Revolutionary war and is now on the pension Roll of the United States that his Brother Frederick Sammons of the same county was in the year 1780 on the 22 Day of May takeing a prisoner of war along with this deponent while in arms against the common enemy and while actually engaged in a millatary capacity having been order out by Col. Fisher commandant of the Regiment to which he belonged as a sergant in Capt. Abraham Veiders company the week previous to his capture and this deponent further says that the said Frederick was permitted occasionally to return to his Fathers house but without having been discharged from the service as this deponent believes and this deponent further says that he was informed and then believed and still does believe that the said Regiment as commanded by Col. Fisher was ordered into service pursuant to and according to the laws of the state of New York and this deponent further says that when the said Frederick Sammons was on the 22 day of May in the year 1780 made prisoner along with this deponent this deponent had not then to his knowledge been discharged from the service but on the same day made his escape from the enemy and returned to the picket fort but the said Frederick was taken to Chamblee on lower Canada from there soon afterwards made his escape was retaken by the enemy and remained a prisoner there and at Prison Island more than two years afterwards the most part of the time in Irons. From Prison Island he and another prisoner by the name of McMullen [escaped] by jumping or throwing themselves into the river and swam of[f] released themselves from the enemy and arrived at Schenectady after travelling through the Wilderness about two weeks Sworn to before me L.V. Murch February 24 1834 J. Peace We Richard Davis and James W. Miller practicing Physicians & Surgeons in Johnstown Montgomery Count & State of New York Do certify that we are personally acquainted with Frederick Sammons the person mentioned in the affidavit of Freegift Patchin hereunto annexed and have this day examined the legs of the Said Frederick Sammons and from such examination we are fully satisfied and believe that the cause mentioned in the annexed affidavit has produced the disease of the legs of the Said Frederick (vis) an extensive chronic inflamation and indolent ulcers under which he now labours and that they are incurable and at his advanced age now about Seventy Seven years wholly disables him for labour wich requires much bodily exercise dated this twenty second day of December 1836. James W. Miller M.D. Richard Davis Subscribed and sworn to this 22 day of December 1836 I certify that the within named James W. Miller and Richard Davis are each men of truth and veracity and that their statement is entitled to credit and I also certify that they are each practicing physicians and surgeons and are reputable in their profession Given under my hand at Johnstown and the county of Montgomery this 22 day of December 1836 Wm Monroe First Justice of Montgomery County Court State of New York Montgomery County On this 24th day of December 1836 personally appeared before the Hon. Abraham Morrell First Judge of Montgomery County Court Frederick Sammons aged seventy six who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed April 10th 1806 and the several acts amending the same that on the twenty second day of May one thousand seven hundred and eighty while in the service of the United States under arms at Johnstown NY he this claimant was compelled by a superior force of the enemy to lay down his arms and surrender himself a prisoner of war and as such was marched from the Johnstown aforesaid to Canada where he was detained as a prisoner two years and four months or thereabouts. That during the period of his captivity aforesaid he this claimant was inhumanely treated by the enemy and received wounds and contusions that has rendered him an Invalid from that time to this day and in all human [word unclear]] he must so remain during the remainder of his life. Which wounds and disability were received and are of the nature wherein after stated, viz., that when conveyed to Canada he was lodged in the Fort at Chamblee where being confined he found means to escape the 13th day and made his way through the wilderness to Otter Creek in the state of Vermont where he was taken sick, here he was discovered and taken by the enemy and being unable to travel was carried to the shore of the lake and precipitated down the bank twelve or fourteen feet perpendicular on rocks and stones whereby he received wounds in his body and a contusion on his right knee the joint of which has since refused to do its office being [word unclear] and stiffened. From thence he was [word unclear] on board a [word unclear] and conveyed back to Chamblee and there confined in Irons for the space of fourteen months all of which time he was not suffered to see the sun. The severity of the Irons was such that the shackles wore the flesh to the bone of his legs and produced “an extensive chronic inflamation and indolent ulcers” which have proved incurable and rendered him incapable of procuring his support by manual labour and for which known wounds and disabilities he now claims to be placed on the invalid pension Roll of his country. He further declares that he continued in service during the whole time that he was [word unclear] ?attached? or for which he engaged except the tour when he was made a prisoner was then sent from his company on leave of his officers and after his disability was in captivity [word unclear] the close of the Revolutionary War. That since he left the service his mode of life has been that of moderation and temperance endeavoring to live the life of a Christian & rendering every man his just due. That his employment has been that of a mechanic, having carried on the business of shop joiner employing workmen labouring himself continually as far as his health would permit. That since leaving the service as aforesaid he has resided four years in Ulster County, three years in Dutchy [[sic - probably Dutchess]] County and the remainder of the time where he now resides in Johnstown Montgomery [County] all in the state of New York. For the proof of which statements as set forth in the declaration he must depend in part to the affidavit of Freegift Patchin to be found with the declaration of this claimant for pension under act of 7 June 1832 now on file at the War Department (Lord Patchin now Dec’d) and he further declars that the reasons why he has not made an application for an Invalid Pension previous to this are that having received a small bounty from the state of New York and a pension [word unclear] from the United States, he has been enabled to support himself to this time but his advance age and sickness in his family now induced him to make this application that he is not on the pension roll of any state or territory. Subscribed and sworn to the day and date above written Fred’k Sammons Abraham Morrell, First Judge of Montgomery County Courts State of New York Montgomery County Benjamin Deline of Connajohary [[Canajoharie]] in said county be duly sworn saith that he was acquainted with Frederick Sammons in the revolutionary war and that said Sammons was taken a prisoner with the deponant in the spring of the year 1780 by a party of British and savages commanded by Sir John Johnson taken to Cannada and lodged in Chambly Jail with a number of other prisoners where the prisoners had to carry out their necessary tub once a day under a guard to empty it [word or two unclear] after being lodged in said jail it came to said Sammons and his brothers turn to carry the tub but as they passed trough the gate of the garrison they left the tub & made their escape across the plains tho closely pursued by the guard as well as the troops of the garrison and in about five or six weeks afterwards the deponent saw said Sammons being [2-3 words unclear] same place where he was put in very severe [irons] which wore into the flesh of his legs til the irons were nearly covered with raw flesh and continued so for a long time until his legs was not able to soport his body. The doctor of prisoners refusing to dress the wounds unless the irons should be removed from his legs which the doctor at length effected with difficulty and cut the flesh that was effected with the irons of his legs to the bone. Sammons was still continued handcuffed during the time of our stay in this jail; in the fall of the year 1781 the prisoners were removed from Chamble to Prison Island on the Saint Lawrence a distance of 50 or 60 miles which distance Sammons was taken in irons but was kept but a short time in irons on the Island. The ensuring summer 1782 the prisoners had liberty in day time to walk on the island this deponent saw Sammons & one other prisoner jump of the bank into the river they made their escape by swimming the guard not discovering them to all of which the deponent has been an Eye Witness & further saith not. his Subscribed and sworn before Benjamin X Deline me this 17th February 1818 mark P.Brooks Junior Justice of the peace
Subject: Pension Records of NY Sammons - Thomas Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:26:32 -0500 From: "Bill and Anna Stewart" <white_bird@email.msn.com> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> New York 20520 Thomas Sammons of Montgomery in the State of N. Y. who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Veeder of the Regt. commanded by Col. Fisher in the State Troops line for 13 mos 8 days Inscribed on the Roll of N. Y. at the rate of 44 Dollars 21 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March 1831 Certificate of Pension signed the 17 day of Sept 1833 and sent to Pensioner, Johnstown, Montgomery Arrears to the 4th of Sept 1833 110.53 Semi-anl. Allowance ending 4 Mar 34 22.10 132.63 Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 Recorded by TF Francoise Clerk Book E Vol. 4 Page 86 122 New York Albany Mary Sammons widow of Thomas Sammons N.Y. who served in the Revolutionary war , as a private Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 44 Dollars 21 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March 1848 Certificate of Pension issued the 13th day of June 1848 and sent to L. Jenkins Albany NY Recorded on the Roll of Pensioners, act February 2, 1848 Page 185 Vol. 4 State of New York County of Montgomery On this 20th day of September one thousand eight hundred and thirty two, personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said county now sitting Thomas Sammons a resident of the town of Johnstown in said County & State, aged nearly seventy years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. That he was born in the town of Shawangunk in the County of Ulster in said State on the 29th October 1762. He has no record of his age except that contained in his family bible. When called into the service of the United States in the war of the revolution he resided in the said town of Johnstown & has lived there ever since except for about three years towit from the latter part of the year 1780, to the end of the war when his fathers family removed to the town of Marbletown in said County of Ulster, they being obliged to abandon their residence in said town of Johnstown in consequence of the enemy who destroyed their dwelling house & other property. He entered the service of the United States under the following named officers & served as herein stated. In the month of June 1776 he entered the Company of Militia under Captain Abraham Veeder in the Regiment of Colonel Frederick Fisher at the town of Johnstown aforesaid as a volunteer; and discharged the duty of a sentinel at the village of Caughnawaga in said town for the term of one week. In the year 1778 in the month of October he was enrolled in the company aforesaid. The other company & field officers whom he recollects were Nicholas Docksfader Lieutenant Volkert Veeder Lieutenant Colonel, & Major John Newkirk. He continued to serve in said company whenever called upon until the year 1780 when he moved to Ulster County as aforesaid. The several expeditions in which he engaged, were as near as he can recollect them as following: viz. To the Town of Palatine for the term of a week at the beginning of the month of November in the year 1778 aforesaid to the town of Stone Arabia about six days in the month of November aforesaid. During the year 1779, he served for the term of one month in the month of July with the whole of said Regiment of Col. Fisher at the German Flatts [sic - Flats] from thence he volunteered with the consent of said Colonel Fisher in the Regiment of Colonel Gansevoort commanding United States troops to Lake Otsego & served in said Regiment last named nearly two weeks – at the sand flatts in said town of Johnstown guarding this frontier eight days in the beginning of the month of September in the year last named – to Fort Plank at Canajoharie & other places in that quarter eleven days in the month of November in the year last named. Sometime in the month of April 1780 he was ordered out to guard the frontier at the residence of Adam Fonda in said town of Johnstown & elsewhere in that quarter for the term of eight days & more. In the month of May then next in the said town of Johnstown at the village in said town and remained there a few days & from thence went out with a scouting party under Lieutenant William Wallace & served in this tour about nine days. On 22nd[??] day of the month last named he was taken prisoner together with his father & his two brothers by a party of the enemy about 500 strong under Sir John Johnson the same day he succeeded in effecting his escape & returned to the village of Johnstown aforesaid & was there examined by Col. John Harper & Lt. Col. Veeder respecting the condition of the enemy. He then joined the militia [word unclear] in pursuit of the enemy. He was in this tour only three days when militia aforesaid were dismissed. In the month of June then next was ordered out in search of tories who rendevoused in the vicinity of Johnstown aforesaid for about four days. In the month of July he was ordered out again with the militia on an alarm that the enemy were approaching which however did not prove to be the case. In the latter part of the month of July last named he volunteered to joint the militia in pursuit of the enemy who were then engaged in destroying the settlements at & near Fort Plank and was out in this tour about four days. In the month of November in the year last named Sir John Johnson with the troops under his command having attacked Schoarie by surprise marched to Fort Hunter on the Mohawk River & from thence proceeded up the Mohawk river burning & destroying every thing within their reach on both sides of said river as far as Palatine. The militia on this occasion was ordered out under General Van Rensselaer to pursue the enemy. He the claimant joined with the volunteers under Captain McKean who had a part of Oneida Indians with him, and served under said Captain McKean in this expedition about fourteen days. He was in the battle fought on this occasion. In the year 1781 he enlisted and served for the term of nine months in the company of State Troops commanded by Captain Henry Paulding in Colonel Albert Paulding’s Regiment. He enlisted in said company at the town of Marbletown aforesaid & served in said County of Ulster in guarding the frontiers in that quarter & at the end of said term he was discharged at Marbletown aforesaid but received no written discharge of his service. In the following year 1783 he served as a substitute for Thomas Broadhead in Colonel Wysenvelt’s Regiment of State Troops under said Henry Paulding for the term of one month at Churchland in said County of Ulster in guarding the frontiers. During said year 1782 he served several times in the company of militia in his beat [sic] in Said County of Ulster towit, Captain Frederick Schoonmaker’s company in John Cantine’s Regiment for how long a period he served in the militia aforesaid he cannot give nay exact account but knows that the whole period for which he served his country as a soldier in the war of the revolution exceeds thirteen months and eight days. He knew Major Van Bunschoten, Colonel Lewis Dubois, Colonel James Livingston & Major Thomas Dewitt, Captain Andrew Fink, Captain Finch. He never received any written discharge. He has no documentary evidence but can produce the testimony of witnesses who can swear to his services. The following are the names of persons to whom is known in his present neighborhood and who can testify as to his character for veracity & their belief of his service as a soldier of the revolutionary. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present & declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State. Thomas Sammons We Isaac S. Ketcham, a clergyman residing in the town of Palatine in the County aforesaid & Simon Veeder of the town of Johnstown in said County do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Thomas Sammons who has subscribed & sworn to the foregoing declaration, that we believe him to be nearly seventy years of age, that he is reputed & believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution & that we concur in that opinion. Sworn and subscribed the day & Simon Veeder year aforesaid Isaac S. Ketcham And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war Department, that Thomas Sammons Esquire the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And the court of [word unclear] certifies that it appeared to them that Isaac S. Ketcham who had signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in Palatine and that Simon Veeder who had also signed the same is a resident of Johnstown and is a credible person & that their statement is entitled to credit. I, George D. Ferguson, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court on the matter of the application of Thomas Sammons for a pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 21st day of September 1832 George D. Ferguson State of New York Montgomery County Andreis Davis of Olive in Ulster County being duly sworn says that he was acquainted with Thomas Sammons of Johnstown & that the said Thomas enlisted in a company of militia commonly called State Troops commanded by Capt. Henry Pawling & Regiment commanded by Col. Albert Pawling and raised for the term of nine months that the said Thomas enlisted sometime in the month of April 1781 at Marbletown in Ulster County in said State and that he faithfully served the said period of nine months. That this deponent served the same time that the said Thomas was discharged at Marbletown. Sworn to 29th day of August 1832 Before Aaron Haring First Judge of Montgomery County Courts I certify Andreis Davis to be a credible witness Aaron Haring State of New York Ulster County Hezekiah Wynkoop of the town of Saugerties County of Ulster County aged 66 years being duly sworn deposes and says that he acquainted with Thomas Sammons of the town of Johnstown County of Montgomery a soldier of the Revolutionary War and now a applicant for a Pension that the deponent knew the said Thomas Sammons & that he was in the company of Capt. Henry Paulding Col. Weisenbelt Regiment for a [word unclear] days and that this deponent saw the said Thomas Sammons continually and untill duly discharged said Company was stationed at the house of my father the place where I live in said town of Saugerties as a guard to the Frontiers. Sworn and subscribed Hezekiah Wynkoop before me this 10th day of September 1832 Christopher C. Kiersted Justice of the Peace in and for the County of Ulster State of New York County of Montgomery On this twentieth day of September one thousand eight hundred & thirty two personally appeared in open court before the judges of said court now sitting Frederick Sammons of the town of Johnstown in said County, who being duly sworn deposeth & saith that his brother Thomas Sammons referred to in the annexed documents as an applicant for a pension under the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832, served in the same Regiment of militia with this Deponent: Towit. The Regiment under the command of Colonel Frederick Fisher. And that although this deponent did not serve in all the expeditions alleged by said Thomas Sammons that he engaged in, yet this Deponent knows that he actually did serve in the same & that he the said Thomas remained a member of said Regiment until the year 1780, from the year 1778, & further saith not. Subscribed & sworn this day and year aforesaid Frederick Sammons State of New York County of Montgomery On this twenty fifth day of January in the year One thousand Eight hundred & forth there appeared before me, Jacob Graff, a Judge of the County Courts of Montgomery County (the same being a Court of Record), Mary Sammons a resident of the town of Mohawk in said County aged sixty nine years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on her oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the pension made by the Act of Congress passed July 7th 1838 entitled “An Act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows.” That she is the widow of Thomas Sammons who was a Soldier in the revolutionary Army and was a Pensioner under the Act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. She further declares that she was married to the said Thomas Sammons on the sixteenth day of December in the year Seventeen Hundred and Ninety Two. That her husband the aforesaid Thomas Sammons died on the twentieth day of November in the year Eighteen hundred and thirty Eight. That she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place previous to the first of January Seventeen Hundred & Ninety four viz. at the time above stated. She further declares that her surname previous to her marriage was wood. And that she was married in the town of Caughnawaga County of Montgomery & State of New York by the Revd. Thomas Romeyn a minister of the Dutch Reformed Church in that town. And that owing to infirmity she cannot write. Sworn to & Subscribed on her the day & year above written Mary X Sammons before me mark Jacob Graff a Judge of Montgomery County Courts Witness Chas. E. Jenkins State of New York County of Montgomery Simeon Sammons being duly sworn deposes & says that his Father the within named Thomas Sammons died on the twentieth day of November Eighteen Hundred and thirty Eight & that his mother Mary Sammons has remained a widow since his death. Sworn to & subscribed this 25th day of Simeon Sammons January 1843 before me Jacob Graff Judge of Montgomery County Courts
Subject: Pension Records of NY Sammons - Benjamin Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:26:45 -0500 From: "Bill and Anna Stewart" <white_bird@email.msn.com> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> New York 20520 Benjamin Sammons of Erie Co. in the State of N. Y. who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Davis of the Regt. commanded by Col. Fisher in the New York line for 13 mos 2 days Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 43 Dollars 44 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March 1831 Certificate of Pension signed the 30 day of Oct 1833 and sent to New Jersey Arrears to the 4th of Sept 1833 108.60 Semi-anl. Allowance ending 4 Mar 34 21.72 130.32 Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 Recorded by C G. Stites Clerk Book E Vol. 4 Page 87 State of New York County of Otsego Cornelius Sammons a resident of the town of Springfield in the County of Otsego and State of New York being duly sworn saith that Benjamin Sammons, whose papers are hereto annexed, is the cousin of the deponent. That this deponent is about 79 years of age. That he resided with the said Benjamin Sammons at a place called Shawangunk in Ulster Co. NY in the year seventeen hundred & seventy nine as described in his declarations. That he was called out and served in the militia under Apt Robert Hunter to whose company they both belonged -- in the year 1779 -- That this company belonged to a Regiment commanded ;by Col. Albert Paulding. That the names of the Lieutenants were Henry Paulding & Levi Dewitt. That in the year 1779 they were together when they were called out to guard the frontiers which place was called Shandaken. That they both remained guarding the Said Frontiers for the space of about two months. From that place they were called from the guard of the frontiers to meet Gen. Sullivan who was supposed to be stationed at Osquago [sic]. After they arrived at Osquago they were disappointed in finding Gen. Sullivan's army and was called back to the aforesaid station at Shandakin where they remained a short time -- say about two weeks -- then they were called to Stony Point and assisted in building the Fort and remained there until the last part of December. That he this deponent together with Benjamin Sammons were drafted about the last of March 1779 and remained doing service for the space of nine months and then they were both discharged at Stony Point. Further this deponent saith not. Sworn before me this 29th day of August in the year of our Lord 1832. his Cornelius X Sammons mark Selah Havers Justice of the Peace State of New York Montgomery County On this 19th day of September in the year of our Lord one Thousand Eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open court before the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Montgomery now sitting Benjamin Sammons a resident of the town of Johnstown in the county of Montgomery & State of New York aged seventy three years on the fifth day of December last past, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declarations in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832: That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated: In the year 1775, in the month of November he went out to Albany Bush in Tryon [now Montgomery County - Tryon was named after a British Gov. of NY who fled in 1775]] under Captain John Davis belonging to Frederick Fishers Regiment and was out three days. He was out in the same month 2 days under the command of Major Giles [Jelles] Fonda. In the year 1776 on the 7th of January, he was ordered out by Captain John Davis belonging to Fishers Regiment and was out at this time 10 days. In the month of May the day he cannot state in the year 1777, your applicant served in a detachment of Albany Militia who were ordered out by Gen. Schuyler, to go to Lake George. This detachment was commanded by Col. Cuyler to the company to which your applicant belong was commanded by Capt. Nicholas Marselay. He went out to the place where they were ordered to go and was out one month and does not recollect the particular time when discharged. In July of the same year he served under the above mentioned officers at Fort George one month longer. He again during the summer and fall of that year served five weeks under the same officers as above stated. In November of the same year, he again went out under Nicholas Marselay, Captain, and carried 104 British Prisoners from Albany to Hartford and was out at this time 20 days. In the month of March in the year 1779 he [was] drafted for nine months in the company of Captain[s] Stanley, Henry Pawling [Paulding], and Levi Dewitt, Lieutenants belonging to Col. Albert Pawlings [Paulding’s] Regiment, Elias Van Ben Scouten 1st Major, Channouett 2nd Major. He went from Shawangunk, Ulster County, State of New York to Fort Shandaken, Ulster County, and served there at that place two or three months, from thence to a place called Aquago and from there again to Stony Point situated on the North River on Hudson below the highlands, whence they went by order of Gen. George Washington to rebuild the fort at that place. That he served the full term of nine months but does not recollect the particulars since he was discharged and was discharged at the latter place. Your applicant says that in the month of May in the year 1780 he served 10 days in an expedition with the whole of the Albany Militia under Captain Marselay belonging to Col. Cuylers Regiment that he went from Albany to Fort Hunter on the Mohawk River then Tryon County now Montgomery County & State of New York. Your applicant says that in July of the same year he went out on another expedition under the same officers aforesaid and went from Albany to Fort Plain along the Mohawk river. This was at the time the place was overrun and destroyed by the enemy. Your applicant says that he was out on another expedition under the same officers as above stated and went from Albany to a place called the German Flatts [Flats], Herkimer. They had at this time an engagement with the Enemy at Col. Clock [Klock?] at a place called Oppenheim, Montgomery County. He was out this time twenty days. Your applicant says that during the war of the revolution they had kept a Continental Store House at the city of Albany, which our people were compelled to guard, that he was obliged as one of the militia of that city, to turn out every other night and keep guard of the Stores kept in the Continental Store House. When he was not out on those expeditions above stated he was engaged and served as such guard during the first five years of the Revolution, except the times as above stated, at the smallest calculation at least one month in each year making in all five months. That when he was out and did serve he was under the officers last above mentioned. He says he served in all twenty months and no longer. He has no documentary evidence of his service. He knows of no person by whom he is able to prove all those services. He has no documentary evidence of his services. He was born in Shawangunk, Ulster County, State of New York in the year 1758. He has no proof of his age. He resided at Shawangunk and Albany & Johnstown, Montgomery when called into service and has lived since the Revolution in Johnstown, Montgomery County. He is acquainted with the following persons residing in his neighborhood who can testify as to his character for truth and veracity and their belief in his service as a soldier of the Revolution, to wit Rev. Abraham Van Horne, William Wallace He hereby relinquishes every claim whatsoever to a pension except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state. his Sworn and subscribed to the day and year aforesaid Benjamin X Sammons Geo. D. Ferguson, Clerk mark
Subject: Pension Records of NY Sammons - Johann Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:26:58 -0500 From: "Bill and Anna Stewart" <white_bird@email.msn.com> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> New York 2946 Margaret Sammons widow of Johannes Sammons N.Y. who died on the August1830 of Orange in the State of New York who was a private & Sergeant in the company commanded by Captain Pawling [Paulding] of the Regt. commanded by Col. Weisen??? in the New York line for 18 mos 17 days private [unclear] mo 2 days sergeant Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 67 Dollars 27 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March 1831 Certificate of Pension signed the 23 day of July 1839 and sent to H Armstrong Newburgh NY Arrears to the 4th of March 1839 537.60 Semi-anl. Allowance ending 4 Mar 33.60 571.20 Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 Recorded by D. Brown Clerk Book A Vol. 2 Page 204 State of New York Orange County On this [6th?] day of March Eighteen Hundred and thirty nine personally appeared before me the undersigned a Judge of the court of common pleas in and for the said county Margaret Sammons a resident of the town of [Dunkirk?] in the county of Orange aged eighty ears who being duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed July 4, 1836 entitled “An act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows.” That she is the widow of Johannes or John Sammons late of the county of Orange aforesaid who was a private & Sergeant in the Militia of the State of New York and served as herewith stated according to the best of her recollection and she had been informed by her husband and verrily believes to be true. That in the latter part of the month of July 1776 her said husband enlisted or volunteered into a company that was raised for the term of four months. The said company was raised in the town of Rochester in the county of Ulster and in the state aforesaid and rendezvoused at the landing on the Hudson River near Kingston under Captain Benjamin Kortright Lieuts. Nath’l Potter & Frederick Westbrook and went from thence to Fort Montgomery [near town of Montgomery near West Point]from thence they went to Kingsbridge and remained their until New York was taken. They then marched to White Plains and was there at the time of the Battle. From thence they marched to Peekskill where the said John Sammons she believes was discharged on or about the first day of January 1777. This service was under the Regiment commanded by Col. [word unclear] Pawling [Paulding?] and under General George Clinton. She further declares that on or about the first of January 1777 the committee of Saf[e]ty [word unclear] out a number of men from the county of Ulster to be raised by volunteering or drafting and that Benjamin Kortright should take charge of a company of those men as Captain and that her said husband Johannes Sammons volunteered into the said company under Capt. Benjamin Kortright and went from Rochester to Fort Montgomery about the middle of January and served untill the last day of March 1777 being a service of at least ten weeks when he returned home. This service was done in the Regiment then from Ulster County at Fort Montgomery under Col. Snyder and Lieut. Col. McClaughry. That in the month of August 1777 her said husband Johannes Sammons was drafted from a company of Militia then under Capt. Benjamin Kortright and was placed in a company of drafted militiamen under Captain Benjamin Kortright and in the Regiment commanded by Col. Morris Graham and went to the north to meet General Burgoyne and was in the Battle at the taking of Burgoyne and served three months the time for which he was drafted and was discharged at the expiration of his service. That her said husband Johannes Sammons in the spring of 1778 was appointed a Sergeant in the company under Capt. Benjamin Kortright and that he served untill the end of the war as such. That she is unable to state the different times that her husband was out in service during the years of 1778, 1779 and 1780 excepting a service of nine days as a Sergeant in the company of Johannes A. Hardenburgh and in the Regiment under Col. Cantine on the western frontier in the Month of November 1778 as will appear by the [ration] roll of Capt. Hardenburgh now on file in the pension office in the case of the widow [last 6 words scratched out]. That sometime in 1779 or 1780 her said husband Johannes Sammons was out as a Sergeant and served on the western frontier as a Sergeant for twenty three days as will appear from the accompanying roll kept by Capt. Kortright and lately found in his family. This service was done under Capt. Kortright and under Col. Cantine. That according to the best of her recollection her said husband Johannes Sammons entered the levies in the Spring of 1781 and served for the term of nine months on the western frontier and according to the best of her recollection in the company of Captain Henry Pawling [Paulding] in the regiment commanded by Col. Albert Pawling [Paulding] but from old age and loss of memory she may be [mistaken on the name??] of the captain but she thinks it was Henry Pawling. That in 1782 her said husband was out several times upon alarms but she is unable from old age and loss of memory unable to state the [two words unclear] times. That she has no [documentary?] evidence of her husbands service in her possession except that which is herewith produced. She further declares that she was married to the said Johannes Sammons at her fathers house in the town of Rochester in the County and State aforesaid by the Rev. Derick Romeyn Pastor of the Dutch Reformed Church in the aforementioned place on the thirteenth day Mary Seventeen Hundred and Seventy Eight and that her name before marriage was Margaretta Wynkoop that she has no record of her said marriage nor does she believe their is any in existence nor has she any other proof that she now knows of except the baptism of her oldest daughter Jane or Janneka Sammons which took place in the church in Rochester in the county and state aforesaid and that she held the said child in her own arms when she was baptized and that the aforementioned Janneka was baptized on the sixth day of May Seventeen Hundred and Seventy nine just eighteen days after she was born and she further declares that the said Janneka is the [word or so unclear] of the marriage of Johannes Sammons and Margaretta Wynkoop. That her husband Johannes Sammons died on the first day of August Eighteen Hundred and Thirty and that she has not since intermarried but did remain the widow [word unclear]. her Margaret X Sammons mark Sworn and subscribed the day and year above mentioned before me by making her mark because she cannot see to write T. Hulet Clark Judge of Orange Co. Common Pleas State of New York Orange County Jane Whitehead of the town of Deer Park in the said county being duly sworn deposeth and saith that she is in the Thirtieth year of her age and that she is the grand daughter of Johannes Sammons and Margaret Sammons and that she was present when Johannes Sammons Died which happened just before daylight of the morning of the first day of August Eighteen Hundred and Thirty and that Margaret Sammons the widow of Johannes Sammons is still living and has not intermarried since the death of her husband Johannes Sammons but still remains his widow. Jane Whitehead sworn and subscribed before me the 6th day of March 1839 Hulet Clark a judge of Orange County Com Pleas
Subject: Additional Info on NY Sammons Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:27:25 -0500 From: "Bill and Anna Stewart" <white_bird@email.msn.com> To: "Sammons Consortium" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> We want to add a few notes about the NY Sammons that may help put them in perspective and add to some general knowledge. We have found a lot of information. There is of course extensive research reflected in the Broderbund World Family Tree series that helps serve as some basis. We found additional information at the DAR Library in Washington. However, as putting together a family history as well as we could on to our computer program, we have done little else pending some tie-in with the Virginia Sammons. Of course, some of these Sammons went west. We have found descendants in the upper Illinois (i.e. Chicago) area. One Civil War pension record we traced -- for an Edwin Sammons in Illinois -- turned out to be from this group as he was born in Johnstown, NY. A.. First we will cut and paste a Family Group Sheet on Sampson Sammons: HUSBAND: Sampson Sammons1 dea: bir: 7 Dec 1721 Greenwich, New York mar2: 1750 Johnstown, New York Father: Jacob Sammons3 Mother: Catalya Benson4 WIFE: Rachel Schoonmaker5 dea: bir: 1726 mar6: 1750 Johnstown, New York Father: Mother: CHILDREN 1 Name: Jacob Sammons7 M bir8: 23 Apr 1752 mar9: 2 Jul 1777 to: Eva Veeder dea10: 4 Nov 1816 2 Name: Benjamin Sammons11 M bir: 5 Dec 1758 Shawangunk, Ulster Co., New York mar12: 4 Dec 1778 to: Annatje Mirtlyn dea13: 26 Dec 1843 3 Name: Frederick Sammons14 M bir: 4 Jul 1760 Shawangunk, Ulster Co., New York mar15: ABT 1790 Fonda, New York to: Ruth Shottenkirk dea16: 22 May 1838 New York 4 Name: Thomas Sammons17 M bir: 29 Oct 1762 Shawangunk, Ulster Co., New York mar18: 16 Dec 1792 Cughnwg,Montgomery Co.,New York to: Mary Wood dea19: 20 Nov 1838 New York Individual biographical text for Sampson Sammons "Prominent among the true men of the day was Sampson Sammons, born in 1742 in Greenwich (now part of New York City), who came to this locality from Ulster County in 1769. He is mentioned as a man of unusual mental power, and well qualified for that position of influence and popularity which he gained among the settlers of the valley. He had a friendly acquaintance with the Johnsons, but their influence never abated his loyalty to the American cause. His family were ardent Whigs and as such suffered in person and property from the barbarity of Sir John [Johnson] and his followers. In 1780 Sampson Sammons and his son, Jacob, Frederick and Thomas, were all made prisoners, but the father and Thomas were released, while the others, as well as a number of horses belonging to the father, were taken to Canada. Sampson Sammons was a volunteer in the battle at Oriskany and Jacob was also there. After the departure of Sir John the committee of sequestration leased Johnson Hall and its estate to Sampson Sammons, at a rent of 300 pounds per annum. The village of Sammonsville is named in honor of the pioneer family." 1. Thomas Sammons (New York); Revolutionary War Pension Applications; National Archives, Washington, DC (hereafter cited as Thomas Sammons (NY), Pension File); Washington Frothingham, History of Montgomery County New York (Syracuse, D. Mason & Co. 1892), (hereafter cited as Frothingham, Montgomery County NY); and Brøderbund, Family Archives World Family Tree Volume 5, pre- 1600 to present, © 1996 Brøderbund Software, Inc (hereafter cited as Brøderbund Vol. 5, WFT Volume 5). 2. Brøderbund, Family Archives World Family Tree Volume 7, pre- 1600 - present, © 1996 Brøderbund Software, Inc (hereafter cited as Brøderbund Vol. 7, WFT Volume 7). 3. Ibid. 4. Ibid. 5. Brøderbund Vol. 5, WFT Volume 5. 6. Brøderbund Vol. 7, WFT Volume 7. 7. Case Files of Revolutionary War Pension Applications; National Archives, Washington, DC (hereafter cited as Frederick Sammons, Pension Application File); and Codman Hislop, Rivers of America: The Mohawk (New York and Toronto: Rinehart & Company, 1948), Pages 162-163 (hereafter cited as Hislop, The Mohawk). 8. Brøderbund Vol. 7, WFT Volume 7. 9. Ibid. 10. Ibid. 11. Benjamin Sammons; Revolutionary War Pension Applications; Reel; National Archives, Washington, DC (hereafter cited as Benjamin Sammons, Pension Applications File). 12. Brøderbund Vol. 7, WFT Volume 7. 13. Ibid. 14. Frederick Sammons, Pension Application File; and Frothingham, Montgomery County NY. 15. Brøderbund Vol. 7, WFT Volume 7. 16. Frederick Sammons, Pension Application File. 17. Thomas Sammons (NY), Pension File; and Frederick Sammons, Pension Application File. 18. Thomas Sammons (NY), Pension File. 19. Ibid. B. A brief note on Thomas: Thomas Sammons applied for a pension on 20 September 1832 in Johnstown, Montgomery County, New York. He was elected to the US House of Representative for two terms, 1803-1807, and 1809-1813. He was a delegate to the New York State Constitutional Convention in 1801 and was a major in the New York State Militia. C.. Thomas, Frederick and Benjamin had a brother named Jacob. There apparently is no pension information on him but some additional research resulted in the following summary: Little is known about Jacob as there are only two, albeit interesting, references to his name. One is a brief statement in the affidavit written by Freegift Patchin for a pension application that Frederick's brother, Jacob, was captured and held along with his brother. There is also a statement in the pension application by Frederick's brother, Thomas Sammons, that he, i.e., Thomas, was captured along with his two brothers and his father, but no names were given. The other is a reference, presumably to the same Jacob Sammons, in a book on the history of the Mohawk River wherein it refers to the growing tension in the area between the Johnson's and many of the local inhabitants (see pages 162-163 and 166). The Tryon county Committee of Safety was worried. Guy Johnson, Sir William Johnson's nephew, drew the first blood. "Shortly after the news of Lexington reached the area, 300 local patriots gathers at Caughnawaga, now Fonda; they were unarmed but peaceable enough. Before their liberty pole was up Sir John Johnson and his two brothers-in-law, and a pack of their tenants, the 'Johnson dogs,' the Palatines called them, rode into the middle of the gathering. THere was a good deal of sword waving and pistol brandishing as Guy climbed on a high porch and began to curse the patriots. "Young Jacob Sammons took all he could from the red-faced, squat cock-o'-the-walk. Unable to contain himself, he yelled out from the crowd that Johnson was a liar. He was a liar and a villain! The speech about the virtues of George III stopped abruptly, and Guy, who wasn't used to interruptions from these peasants, sprang down from his platform and grabbed Sammons by the throat. "In the middle of the scuffle one of the Tories swung on Sammons with a loaded whip, knocking him out for a moment. When his sight cleared he found one of Johnson's Highlanders seated on his chest. A blow in the right place got rid of the Highlander, but by now the unarmed Whigs had beat a quick and inglorious retreat, and young Sammons was left to fight the valley's first battle by himself. The odds were unfair. He couldn't do much with Johnson pistols cocked and pushed into his face. The loyalists now went to work on him in bullies' style, knocking him down, and beating him with their clubs. When they had proved the virtues of the king the whole Johnson party decamped, and Sammons, thoroughly beaten up, was left to consider liberty in a new light."
Subject: THE SAMMONS PAGE Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 21:33:03 -0600 From: Charlotte Ramsey To: Sammons Consortium <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> Hi all, GOOD NEWS !!! The SAMMONS page has a home of its very own. It will always have a link on my family page, but I was running out of room. I had 11 megs of space and had less than 1 meg left and I was beginning to get worried. I want to put much more info on there, So, I found it a new home so that the SAMMONS page has 7 megs of space now. The best part is that there will be NO banners popping up and it seems to load much faster. The first time you load it, it might be slow but once in cache it should be faster. I believe we all will enjoy it. Sure hope so. I had to move the files 5 at a time, then link and relink. There is probably a few links that I missed but I will find them and fix them as soon as possible. When you go to the Family page, except for the notice about the change, and a new background and bars and lines, you might not have noticed the new address for awhile but I decided I'd better not surprise everyone. Please don't forget my Family page.... it will still have lots of info on it and I hope I've done the right thing here. Let me know if you like it and I guess..... even if you don't. This whole project is for us all... like my slogan says... "and all our cousins too!" I just thought about the search engine, I will put one on the new page soon as I can. -- Charlotte Ramsey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7991/index.html Sammons page: http://www.mysp.com/p/sammons/index.html
Subject: Obituary Daily Times Results Sammons Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:53:06 -0800 From: "Hope C. Pees" <jouett@axs4u.net> To: "SAMMONS CONSORTIUM" <sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu> http://obits.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi
Subject: WV Sammons Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:43:34 PST From: "Jeri Beitel" <colorway@hotmail.com> To: Sammons-l@snipe.bimcore.emory.edu This is to Keith and anyone else who is researching that WV and Orange Co NY line. Would you please email me. I have a contact, but I have temporarily lost your mail addresses as I can't get into the new Sammons Page yet. Sorry to inconvenience all of you. Thanks, Jeri