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Group 2 Members and Their Genealogy 

P1: 1 thru 12 DNA Markers / P2: 13 thru 25 DNA markers / P3: 26 thru 37 DNA Markers

P4: 38 thru 47 DNA Markers / P5: 48 thru 57 DNA Markers / P6: 58 thru 67 DNA Markers

  Group 2: Stark/Starke Families; Descendants of Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland {Killermont Stark Families}

Subgroup 2A: Descendants of Dr. Richard Starke [1668-1704] of York County, Virginia

#N21529 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

Dr. Richard Starke

b. 1692 (?Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland?)

d. About 1704 (York County, Virginia)

William Starke

b. 1692 (Prince George County, Virginia)

d. 1755 (Prince George County, Virginia)

Richard Starke

b. About 1734 (Prince George County, Virginia)

d. 07/??/1772 (Williamsburg, Virginia)

Lewis Starke

b. ???? (Brunswick County, Virginia)

d. About 1815 (????)

William Armistead Starke, (Jr.)

b. ???? (Brunswick County, Virginia)

d. 1829 (Brunswick County, Virginia)

General Peter Burwell Starke

b. About 1816 (Brunswick County, Virginia)

d. 1888 (Brunswick County, Virginia)

William Edwin Starke, II

b. 1877 (Brunswick County, Virginia)

d. 1950 (Brunswick County, Virginia)

Father

(A1a)

Robert Burwell Starke, Jr.

#N21529

Contact: STARKEBUFF@aol.com / RBStarke@aol.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 35 36 12 12  
 

Subgroup 2B: Descendants of Archibald Stark [1693-1758] of Manchester County, New Hampshire

#94630 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

William Stark

of Dullutur

b. About 1520 (Scotland)

d. Between 1571-1576 (Scotland)

m. Unknown Fleming / ???? / Scotland

William Stark (Junior) of Auchenstarry

b. 1540s (Scotland)

d. ????

m. Margaret Hamiltoune / ???? / Scotland

John Stark

of Killermont

b. About 1575 (Scotland)

d. 1632/33 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

m. Margaret Cunningham / ???? / Scotland

John Stark (the younger)

of Killermont

b. About 1610 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

d. After 1683 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

m. Margaret Naper / ???? / Scotland

John Stark, III of Killermont

b. 1655 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

d. 17?? (????)

m. Jean McCutheon / 1683 / Lanark, Scotland

Archibald Stark

b. 1693 (Dumbarton Shire, Scotland)

d. 06/??/1758 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

m. 

John Stark (General)

b. 08/??/1728 (Londonderry, New Hampshire)

d. 05/??/1822 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

m.

John Stark (Junior)

b. 04/??/1763 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

d. 11/??/1844 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

m. 

Gradus Bakeman Stark

b. 06/??/1785 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

d. 12/??/1864 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

m. 

Leonard Stark

b. 08/??/1818 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

d. 12/??/1898 (Bolyston, Massachusetts)

m. 

Leonard Spaulding Stark

b. 08/??/1847 (Barre, Massachusetts)

d. 11/??/1913 (Bolyston, Massachusetts)

m.

Father

 

(B1a)

Raymond E. Stark

#94630

Contact: janeymaney@hotmail.com

Sponsor: Jane Stark Maney

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 23 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2                          
P3                          

#95073 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

William Stark

of Dullutur

b. About 1520 (Scotland)

d. Between 1571-1576 (Scotland)

m. Unknown Fleming / ???? / Scotland

William Stark (Junior) of Auchenstarry

b. 1540s (Scotland)

d. ????

m. Margaret Hamiltoune / ???? / Scotland

John Stark

of Killermont

b. About 1575 (Scotland)

d. 1632/33 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

m. Margaret Cunningham / ???? / Scotland

John Stark (the younger)

of Killermont

b. About 1610 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

d. After 1683 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

m. Margaret Naper / ???? / Scotland

John Stark, III of Killermont

b. 1655 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

d. 17?? (????)

m. Jean McCutheon / 1683 / Lanark, Scotland

Archibald Stark

b. 1693 (Dumbarton Shire, Scotland)

d. 06/??/1758 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

m. 

John Stark (General)

b. 08/??/1728 (Londonderry, New Hampshire)

d. 05/??/1822 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

m.

John Stark (Junior)

b. 04/??/1763 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

d. 11/??/1844 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

m. 

Gradus Bakeman Stark

b. 06/??/1785 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

d. 12/??/1864 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

m. 

Leonard Stark

b. 08/??/1818 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

d. 12/??/1898 (Bolyston, Massachusetts)

m. 

Leonard Spaulding Stark

b. 08/??/1847 (Barre, Massachusetts)

d. 11/??/1913 (Bolyston, Massachusetts)

m.

Fred Clifton Stark

b. 09/??/1877 (Hubbardston, Massachusetts)

d. 08/??/1960 (Northborough, Massachusetts)

m. 

John Clifton Stark

b. 06/??/1907 (Clinton, Massachusetts)

d. 08/??/1975 (Laconia, New Hampshire)

m.

Father

 

(B1b)

John Clifton Stark, 3rd

#95073

Contact: janeymaney@hotmail.com

Sponsor: Jane Stark Maney

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 23 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2                          
P3                          

#25347 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

William Stark

of Dullutur

b. About 1520 (Scotland)

d. Between 1571-1576 (Scotland)

m. Unknown Fleming / ???? / Scotland

William Stark (Junior) of Auchenstarry

b. 1540s (Scotland)

d. ????

m. Margaret Hamiltoune / ???? / Scotland

John Stark

of Killermont

b. About 1575 (Scotland)

d. 1632/33 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

m. Margaret Cunningham / ???? / Scotland

John Stark (the younger)

of Killermont

b. About 1610 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

d. After 1683 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

m. Margaret Naper / ???? / Scotland

John Stark, III of Killermont

b. 1655 (Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland)

d. 17?? (????)

m. Jean McCutheon / 1683 / Lanark, Scotland

Archibald Stark

b. 1693 (Dumbarton Shire, Scotland)

d. 06/??/1758 (Manchester, New Hampshire)

m. 

William Stark

b. 04/01/1724 (Londonderry, New Hampshire)

d. 1776 (Long Island, New York)

m.

Thomas Stark

b. 01/25/1767 (Dunbarton, New Hampshire)

d. ????

m.

Rodney G. Stark

b. 11/23/1809 (Hillsboro County, New Hampshire)

d. 01/04/1876 (Hillsboro County, New Hampshire)

m.

Lewis Henry Stark

b. 12/08/1841 (Hillsboro County, New Hampshire)

d. 01/02/1898 (Hillsboro County, New Hampshire)

m.

Frederick L. Stark

b. 08/31/1875 (Hillsboro County, New Hampshire)

d. About 1969 (New Hampshire)

m.

Father

 

(B2a)

Rodney L. Stark

#25347

Contact: arstark@comcast.net

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 23 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 35 36 12 12  
 
Subgroup 2C: Descendants of James Stark [1695-1754] of Stafford County, Virginia

#74402 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

James Stark (Junior)

b. About 1719 (Stafford County, Virginia or Scotland)

d. 05/06/1761 (North or South Carolina)

m.

James Stark, III

b. 12/21/1747 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 1829 (Fauquier County, Virginia)

m.

James Stark, IV

b. 02/17/1778 (Fauquier County, Virginia)

d. 07/17/1853 (Hardin County, Kentucky)

m.

Hebron R. Stark

b. About 1802 (Fauquier County, Virginia)

d. Before 1870 (Hardin County, Kentucky)

m.

Strother James Stark

b. About 1842 (Hardin County, Kentucky)

d. 12/03/1912 (Trimble County, Kentucky)

m.

Daniel Hebron Stark

b. 01/07/1873 (Trimble County, Kentucky)

d. 04/13/1933 (Jefferson County, Kentucky)

m.

Father

 

(C1a)

Allan Drane Stark

#74402

Contact: DonnaStarkKY@fewpb.net

Sponsor: Donna Stark

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  

Comments 12/13/2012

#74402 (C1a) results over 37 Markers resulted in a perfect match to the Group 2 37 marker Modal Haplotype. When #260109 (C1b) was compared to (C1a), there was a 84.47% probability they share a common ancestor within 7 Generations and a 92.33% probability they share a common ancestor within 9 generations; both results being above the probability confidence threshold of 80%.

(C1a) & (C1b), according to the genealogy, share James Stark [1747-1829] as a common ancestor. However, the participant (C1a) is in the same generation as the grandfather of participant (C1b). James Stark [1747-1829] lived six generations earlier than (C1a) and the grandfather of C1b) and the genealogy suggests they share James as a common ancestor within 7 generations. Assuming the Grandfather of (C1b) and the participant (C1b) have the same haplotype, there is a 84.47% probability they share James Stark [1747-1829] as a common ancestor; this being within the 80% confidence threshold.

If  the grandson of (C1a) has the same Haplotype as (C1a), then a genetic comparison of (C1a)'s grandson to (C1b) results in a 92.33% probability they would share James Stark [1747-1829] as a common ancestory.



#260109 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

James Stark (Junior)

b. About 1719 (Stafford County, Virginia or Scotland)

d. 05/06/1761 (North or South Carolina)

m.

James Stark, III

b. 12/21/1747 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 1829 (Fauquier County, Virginia)

m.

William Stark

b. 1773 (Fauquier County, Virginia)

d. 8 Jan 1815 (Culpeper County, Virginia)

m. Ann Smith

Weedon Smith Stark/Starke

b. 17 Jun 1799 (Fauquier County, Virginia)

d. Abt. 1870 (Culpeper County, Virginia)

m. Mary Bruce Brown

Gideon Starke

b. 22 Dec 1827 (Culpeper County, Virginia)

d. 2 Dec 1887 (Hanover County, Virginia)

m. Adeline A. Chewning

Charles Brown Starke

b. ?? Jan 1855 (Virginia)

d. 24 Dec 1915 (Hanover County, Virginia)

m. Elizabeth Ann Reeve

Charles Gideon Starke

b. 3 May 1881 (Virginia)

d. 30 Nov 1953 (Hanover County, Virginia)

m. Olie May Howard

Grandfather

Private

Father

Private

(C1b)

Cary Lee Starke

#260109

Contact: starkec@comcast.net

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup:

R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 25 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 16 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  

Comments 12/13/2012

#260109 (C1b) results over 37 Markers resulted in a genetic distance of two from the 37 Marker Group 2 Modal Haplotype. When (C1b) was compared to #74402 (C1a), having the 37 Marker modal haplotype, there was a 84.47% probability they share a common ancestor within 7 Generations and a 92.33% probability they share a common ancestor within 9 generations; both results being above the probability confidence threshold of 80%.

(C1a) & (C1b), according to the genealogy, share James Stark [1747-1829] as a common ancestor. However, the participant (C1a) is in the same generation as the grandfather of participant (C1b). James Stark [1747-1829] lived six generations earlier than (C1a) and the grandfather of (C1b) and they share a common ancestor within 7 generations. Assuming the Grandfather of (C1b) and the participant (C1b) have the same haplotype, there is a 84.47% probability they share James Stark [1747-1829] as a common ancestor; this being within the 80% confidence threshold.

If  the grandson of (C1a) has the same Haplotype as (C1a), then a genetic comparison of (C1a)'s grandson to (C1b) results in a 92.33% probability they share James Stark [1747-1829] as a common ancestor.


#84342 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Jeremiah Stark

b. 06/11/1722 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 07/23/1805 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Thomas Stark

b. About 1770 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 08/24/1824 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

m.

John W. Stark

b. 05/08/1810 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

d. 04/28/1870 (DeKalb County, Tennessee)

m.

John Bell Stark

b. 02/25/1839 (DeKalb County, Tennessee)

d. 01/19/1908 (DeKalb County, Tennessee)

m.

Henry Clay Stark

b. 03/08/1879 (DeKalb County, Tennessee)

d. 05/27/1952 (Perry County, Tennessee)

m.

Father

 

(C2a)

Truman Groom Stark

#84342

Contact: dstark28@charter.net

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 17 18 36 36 12 12  

 

#171929 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Jeremiah Stark

b. 06/11/1722 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 07/23/1805 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Thomas Stark

b. About 1770 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 08/24/1824 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

m.

John W. Stark

b. 05/08/1810 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

d. 04/28/1870 (DeKalb County, Tennessee)

m.

John Bell Stark

b. 02/25/1839 (DeKalb County, Tennessee)

d. 01/19/1908 (DeKalb County, Tennessee)

m.

Dallas Alfred Stark

b. 11/24/1886 (Liberty, Tennessee)

d. 01/22/1958 (San Antonio, Texas)

m. Ethel Nollie Smith / 05/01/1910 / ????

Lincoln Dale Stark

b. 11/30/1913 (Old Hickory, Tennessee)

d. 10/29/1995 (San Antonio, Texas)

m. Edna Elizabeth King / 06/15/1935 / ????

(C2b)

J. K. Stark

#171929

Contact: Karla Stark; starkkarla@yahoo.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  
P4 11 9 15 16 9 10 10 8 10 10      
P5 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 17 8 11      
P6 22 20 14 12 11 14 11 11 12 12      

#76284 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Jeremiah Stark

b. 06/11/1722 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 07/23/1805 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

John Carter Stark

b. 11/22/1748 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 05/16/1814 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

m.

Alexander Stark

b. 03/31/1782 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 02/10/1845 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

Coleman Stark

b. 06/13/1805 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. Between 1860-1870 (Shelby County, Tennessee)

m. 

Joseph B. Stark

b. 1844 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

d. 04/10/1887 (Shelby County, Tennessee)

m.

Eugene A. Stark

b. 06/??/1870 (Shelby County, Tennessee)

d. 12/30/1928 (Shelby County, Tennessee)

m.

Father

 

(C2c)

Ben Robert Stark

#76284

Contact: starks01@comcast.net

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 16 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  
P4 11 9 15 16 9 10 10 8 10 10      
P5 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 17 8 11      
P6 22 20 14 12 11 14 11 11 12 12      

#136832 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Jeremiah Stark

b. 06/11/1722 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 07/23/1805 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

John Carter Stark

b. 11/22/1748 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 05/16/1814 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

m.

Alexander Stark

b. 03/31/1782 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 02/10/1845 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

John Stark

b. 1811

d. 1870

m.

Henry Stark

b. Between 1830 & 1850 (Place Unknown)

d. Between 1871 & 1880 (place Unknown)

m.

George W. Stark

b. 05/20/1871 (?Honeycutt, Hawkins County, Tennessee)

d. 01/19/1945 (Stephens County, Oklahoma)

m.

Reuben Henry Stark

b. 08/18/1896 (Jefferson County, Oklahoma)

d. 04/25/1966 (Stephens County, Oklahoma)

m.

Father

Private

(C2d)

Leroy (Lee) Wilburn Stark

#136832

Contact: lestar@rocketmail.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 16 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  
P4 11 9 15 16 9 10 10 8 10 10      
P5 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 17 8 11      
P6 22 20 14 12 11 14 11 11 12 12      

#315853 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Jeremiah Stark

b. 06/11/1722 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 07/23/1805 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

John Carter Stark

b. 11/22/1748 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 05/16/1814 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

m.

Alexander Stark

b. 03/31/1782 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 02/10/1845 (Sumner County, Tennessee)

John Stark

b. 1811

d. 1870

m.

Henry Stark

b. Between 1830 & 1850 (Place Unknown)

d. Between 1871 & 1880 (place Unknown)

m.

Richard Stark

Short

b. 08/31/1874 (Roane County, Tennessee)

d. 02/19/1943 (Sumerset, Pulaski County, Kentucky)

m. Sarah F. Moore / 12/24/1893/ Monroe Co., TN

Father

Private

 

(C2e)

Richard Ferell Short

#315853

Contact:  R. F. Short /  rfs57@windstream.net

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  
P4 11 9 15 16 9 10 10 8 10 10      
P5 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 17 8 11      
P6 22 20 14 12 11 14 11 11 12 12      

Note 12/22/2013: The 1880 census for Roane County reports a R. S. Short, age 6, living in the home of Robert & Elvira (Barnett) Short. They report R. S. Short was adopted and his parents were both born in Virginia. Robert and Elvira both report they were born in Tennessee. I observed Richard S. Short of Monroe County, wife named Sarah F. Short, reported in the 1900 census. He also reported his parents were born in Virginia. #315853 has confirmed this was his Grandfather. We now begin the search for his Stark great-grandparents in Tennessee.

#76964 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Jeremiah Stark

b. 06/11/1722 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 07/23/1805 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

James Stark

b. 1774 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 03/25/1866 (Harrison County, Virginia)

m. Nancy Knight / 1786 / Stafford Co., VA

Jeremiah Stark

b. 1810 (Harrison County, Virginia)

d. 08/09/1878 (Doddridge County, West Virginia)

m. Mary Harbert / 1817 / Ohio

Seymore Stark

b. 12/15/1850 (????)

d. 09/23/1932 (????)

m. Christina Tucker / 11/07/1872 / ????

Russell Sheridan Stark

b. 10/02/1885 (Doddridge County, West Virginia)

d.

m. Lucy Malone Preston / 03/07/1907 / ????

Father

 

(C2f)

Donald Stark

#76964

Contact: pdskinner@pol.net

Sponsor: Paul Douglas Skinner

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2                          
P3                          

Paul and Chelly Skinner's Family

http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ruke&id=I0019

#115705 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Thomas Stark

b. 1721 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 1802 (Robertson County., Tennessee)

m.

Jeremiah Stark

b. 11/25/1749 (Fairfax, Fairfax County, Virginia)

d. 05/18/1824 (Abbeville County, South Carolina)

m.

Thomas Geary Stark

b. 05/13/1801 (Anderson County, South Carolina)

d. 01/31/1862 (Cole County, Missouri)

m.

Nehemiah Vernon Stark

b. 11/11/1832 (Cole County, Missouri)

d. 01/27/1914 (Latham, Moniteau County, Missouri)

m.

George Albert Stark

b. 07/22/1866 (Moniteau County, Missouri)

d. 09/20/1926 (Boise, Ada County, Idaho)

m.

Albert Henry Stark

b. 04/02/1891 (Moniteau County, Missouri)

d. 12/15/1956 (Spokane County, Washington)

m.

Father

 

(C3a)

David Paul Stark

#115705

Contact: DavidS501@aol.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 13 15 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 19 18 35 36 12 12  

#338943 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m. Elizabeth Thornton / ???? / ????

William Stark

b. ca 1723 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 1772 (Loudoun County, Virginia)

m. Susannah Trammell / bef. 1752 / Fairfax Co., VA (now Loudoun Co., VA)

John Starks

b. ca 1761 (Loudoun County, Virginia)

d. 09/17/1824 (Fayette County, Kentucky)
m. Anne Marshall / bef. 1790 / Prob. Loudoun Co., VA

Thomas Marshall Starks

b. 09/01/1798 (Loudoun County, Virginia)

d. Nov. 11/09/1851 (Adams County, Illinois, Burial Pike Co., IL)

m. Elizabeth Unknown /Bet. 1820 & 1825/ Fayette Co. KY or Clermont Co., OH

William Starks

b. 06/13/1841 (Batavia, Clermont County, Ohio)

d. 06/06/1911 (Poplar Bluff, Butler County, MIssouri)

m. Elizabeth Powell / 08/12/1865 / Pike Co., Illinois

Wallace Starks

b. 06/15/1867 (Barry, Pike County, Illinois)

d. 10/30/1930 (Poplar Bluff, Butler County, Missouri)

m. Etta Meadows/ 08/29/1892 / Pike Co. Illinois

Willie B. Starks

b. 05/11/1894 (Santa Fe, Monroe County, Missouri)

d. 09/17/1955 (St Clair, Franklin County, Missouri)

m. Violet A. Young / 03/11/1914 / Poplar Bluff, Butler Co., MO

Father

Private

(C4a)

Vern Starks

#338943

Contact: vrstarks@hotmail.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  
P4 11 9 15 16 9 10 10 8 10 10      
P5 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 17 8 11      
P6 22 20 14 12 11 14 11 11 12 12      

Comments 05/23/2014

#338943 (C4a) is a perfect match to the 67 maker Modal Haplotype for Group 2. He is a perfect 67 marker genetic match to Group 2 members #171929 (C2b) and #315853 (C2e). (C2b) is a known descendant of James Stark of Stafford County, Virginia.

(C4a) is a perfect match #339097 (C4b) over 37 markers. Both are known descendants of two different sons of Thomas M. Stark. The father of (C4a) and Member (C4b) are cousins, three generations removed. Thomas M. Stark, their earliest known male common ancestor, was the gg-grandfather of (C4b) and ggg-grandfather of (C4a).

Recent research in the publication entitled, James Stark of Stafford County, Virginia and his Descendants, has revealed the names of the parents of Thomas M. Starks. [Compiled by Harris and Jorgensen, 1985. Thomas M. Starks Parents presented on Page 751, Volume 2.]

The publication reported a Sister of Thomas M. Starks married Williamson Price. The name of the g-grandfather of (C4b) presented in the 1850 census for Batavia, Clermont Co., OH, was Williamson P. Starks. Therefore, it is likely his g-grandfather's full name was Williamson Price Starks. Likewise, it is also likely the middle name of Thomas M. Starks was Marshall, the maiden name of his Mother.

It is certain, genetically, (C4a) and (C4b) are descendants of James Stark of Stafford Co., VA. The genealogy referenced above, although circumstantial from Thomas M. Starks to James Stark of Stafford Co., VA, is supported genetically. When (C4a) is compared to (C2b) over 67 markers, there is a 98.96% probability that the Father of (C4a) and (C2b) share a common ancestor within 8 generations; or share James Stark of Stafford Co., VA, as a common ancestor in 7 generations — because (C2b) and (C4b)'s Father cannot share a common male ancestor in the last 6 generations.

When (C4a) & (C4b) are genetically compared to each other over 37 markers, there is a 83.49% probability the Father of (C4a) and (C4b) could share a common male ancestor within 4 generations; or share Thomas M. Stark as a common ancestor in Generation 3 — because (C4a)'s Father and (C4b) cannot share a common male ancestor in the last 2 generations. A 83.49% probability is above the Administrators 80% probability confidence threshold.

 

#339097 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m. Elizabeth Thornton / ???? / ????

William Stark

b. ca 1723 (Stafford County, Virginia)

d. 1772 (Loudoun County, Virginia)

m. Susannah Trammell / bef. 1752 / Fairfax Co., VA (now Loudoun Co., VA)

John Starks

b. ca 1761 (Loudoun County, Virginia)

d. 09/17/1824 (Fayette County, Kentucky)
m. Anne Marshall / bef. 1790 / Prob. Loudoun Co., VA

Thomas Marshall Starks

b. 09/01/1798 (Loudoun County, Virginia)

d. Nov. 11/09/1851 (Adams County, Illinois, Burial Pike Co., IL)

m. Elizabeth Unknown /Bet. 1820 & 1825/ Fayette Co. KY or Clermont Co., OH

Williamson Price Starks

b. 09/05/1838 (Clermont County, Ohio)

d. 12/26/1886 (Pike County, Illinois)

m. Cora Peterson / May 05/05/1874 / Pike Co. Illinois

Charles Starks

b. 10/25/1880 (Pike County, Illinois)

d. 07/09/1936 (Sycamore, Kansas)

m. Mary E. McKinney  / Unknown / Pike Co., Illinois

Father

Private

(C4b)

Norman Starks

#339097

Contact: nlstarks@yahoo.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  

Comments 05/23/2014

#339037 (C4b) is a perfect match to the 37 maker Modal Haplotype for Group 2. He is a perfect 37 marker genetic match to Group 2 members #171929 (C2b) and #315853 (C2e). (C2b) is a known descendant of James Stark of Stafford County, Virginia.

(C4b) is a perfect match #338943 (C4a) over 37 markers. Both are known descendants of two different sons of Thomas M. Stark. The father of (C4a) and Member (C4b) are cousins, three generations removed. Thomas M. Stark, their earliest known male common ancestor, was the gg-grandfather of (C4b) and ggg-grandfather of (C4a).

Recent research in the publication entitled, James Stark of Stafford County, Virginia and his Descendants, has revealed the names of the parents of Thomas M. Starks. [Compiled by Harris and Jorgensen, 1985. Thomas M. Starks Parents presented on Page 751, Volume 2.]

The publication reported a Sister of Thomas M. Starks married Williamson Price. The name of the g-grandfather of (C4b) presented in the 1850 census for Batavia, Clermont Co., OH, was Williamson P. Starks. Therefore, it is likely his g-grandfather's full name was Williamson Price Starks. Likewise, it is also likely the middle name of Thomas M. Starks was Marshall, the maiden name of his Mother.

It is certain, genetically, (C4a) and (C4b) are descendants of James Stark of Stafford Co., VA. The genealogy referenced above, although circumstantial from Thomas M. Starks to James Stark of Stafford Co., VA, is supported genetically. When (C4b) is compared to (C2b) over 37 markers, there is a 97.28% probability they share a common ancestor within 8 generations; or share James Stark of Stafford Co., VA, as a common ancestor in 7 generations — because (C2b) and (C4b) cannot share a common male ancestor in the last 6 generations.

When (C4a) & (C4b) are genetically compared to each other over 37 markers, there is a 83.49% probability the Father of (C4a) and (C4b) could share a common male ancestor within 4 generations; or share Thomas M. Stark as a common ancestor in Generation 3 — because (C4a)'s Father and (C4b) cannot share a common male ancestor in the last 2 generations. A 83.49% probability is above the Administrators 80% probability confidence threshold.

The probability is high that (C4b) and (C4a) would be a perfect match over 67 markers if (C4b) were to upgrade to the 38 thru 67 markers, for no mutations over these markers has been observed — thus far — for members of Group 2 tested over these additional markers.

Subgroup 2D: Probably Descendants of James Stark [1695-1754] of Stafford County, Virginia / Genealogy Incomplete

#115170 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Father

 

(D1a)

Eric Martin Stark

#115170

Contact: meandmollysj@yahoo.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  
 

#241988 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Abner Stark

b. Bet. 1790-1800 (Unknown)

d. Bet. 1832-1840 (Carroll Co., Georgia)

m. Alsey Unknown / Abt. 1820 / Unknown

William Stark

b. Abt. 1827 (Georgia)

d. Aft. 1855 (Perhaps Cobb Co., Georgia)

m. Rachel M. Jenkins / 11/07/1847 / Carroll Co., GA

Charles Troup Stark

b. 05/09/1854 (Perhaps Cobb County, Georgia)

d. 06/04/1933 (San Luis Obispo, California)

m.  Francis E. McCannon/ 11/26/1874 / Cass Co., TX

Jasper Newton Stark

b. 09/26/1881 (Belton, Bell Co., Texas)

d. 05/08/1952 (San Luis Obispo, California)

m. Lydda Lura Reeder / abt. 1909 / ?Oklahoma?

Father

 

 

(D2a)

Roger Arlen

Stark

#241988

Contact 1:  Peggy Wilhite peggywilhite@att.net

Contact 2: Henry Penrod travlin.pen@gmail.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  

Comments 07/28/2012

#241988 (D2a) results over 37 Markers were a perfect match to #245962 (D2b) and there is a 89.48% probability they share Charles Troup Stark as a common ancestor within 5 generations; this being above the probability confidence threshold of 80%. Over 37 Markers, (D2a) is a perfect match to four other members of Group 2 and a perfect match to the 37 Marker Modal haplotype for this group. Other than (D2b), (D2a) is also a perfect match to two members of Group 2c, who are descendants of James Stark [1696-1754] of Stafford County, Virginia. (D2a)'s genetic comparison to these members of Group 2c, statistically, indicate there is a 98.89% probability (D2a) shares a common ancestor within 10 generations, for example, with #74402 (C1a), a genealogically proven 9th generation descendant of James Stark [1696-1754]. Genetically, this suggests (D2a) and (D2b) most likely are descendants of the same James Stark [1696-1754].

Genetically, the Group 2 Analysis entitled, "Report 2: Genetic Genealogy Report; Descendants of Archibald Stark, James Stark, & Dr. Richard Starke," provides a good explanation why (D2a) and (D2b) most likely are not descendants of Archibald Stark of New Hampshire, nor Dr. Richard Starke of York County, Virginia. Their descendants results are reported in Groups 2a & 2b. Click HERE to review the report.

(D2a) genetic comparisons to descendants of Archibald Stark (Group 2b) or Dr. Richard Starke (Group 2a), will, statistically, be identical to (C1a)'s genetic comparisons to these Members. Therefore, the Report 2 analysis also applies to (D2a) and (C2b). What is missing is the genealogical connection of Charles Troup Stark and Abner Stark to James Stark [1696-1754]. Assuming Abner was a grandfather of Charles Troup Stark, it would appear (D2a) and (D2b) are possibly missing two or three generations between Abner Stark and James Stark.

The lineage presented is not known with certainty earlier than Charles Troup Stark. Circumstantial evidence suggests William Stark who married Rachel Jenkins, may have died before or soon after the birth of Charles Troup Stark. Rachel may have married J. McBride before 1860. The Cass County, Texas 1860 census reports Chas Stark, age 6, living in the home of J. McBride. This census reports he and his older brother, 8 year old Jesse Abner Stark, were born in Georgia, as was a 28 year old female, M. McBride, believed to be the mother of the Stark Brothers. The genealogical research for the connection K1 and K2 to James Stark [1696-1754] continues.

#245962 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Abner Stark

b. Bet. 1790-1800 (Unknown)

d. Bet. 1832-1840 (Carroll Co., Georgia)

m. Alsey Unknown / Abt. 1820 / Unknown

William Stark

b. Abt. 1827 (Georgia)

d. Aft. 1855 (Perhaps Cobb Co., Georgia)

m. Rachel M. Jenkins / 11/07/1847 / Carroll Co., GA

Charles Troup Stark

b. 05/09/1854 (Perhaps Cobb County, Georgia)

d. 06/04/1933 (San Luis Obispo, California)

m.  Francis E. McCannon/ 11/26/1874 / Cass Co., TX

Franklin Edward Stark

b. 1893

d. 1951

m. -------------

Ray Raymond Stark

b. 1916

d. 1990

(D2b)

Donald

Raymond

Stark

#245962

Contact 1:  Donald Stark starkteam@cox.net

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  

Comments 07/28/2012

#245962 (D2b) results over 37 Markers were a perfect match to #241988 (D2a) and there is a 89.48% probability they share Charles Troup Stark as a common ancestor within 5 generations; this being above the probability confidence threshold of 80%. Over 37 Markers, K2 is a perfect match to four other members of Group 2 and a perfect match to the 37 Marker Modal haplotype for this group. Other than (D2a), (D2b) is also a perfect match to two members of Group 2c, who are descendants of James Stark [1696-1754] of Stafford County, Virginia. K2's genetic comparison to these members of Group 2c, statistically, indicate there is a 98.89% probability K2 shares a common ancestor within 10 generations, for example, with #74402 (C1a), a genealogically proven 9th generation descendant of James Stark [1696-1754]. Genetically, this suggests K2 and K1 most likely are descendants of the same James Stark [1696-1754].

Genetically, the Group 2 Analysis entitled, "Report 2: Genetic Genealogy Report; Descendants of Archibald Stark, James Stark, & Dr. Richard Starke," provides a good explanation why (D2b) and (D2a) most likely are not descendants of Archibald Stark of New Hampshire, nor Dr. Richard Starke of York County, Virginia. Their descendants results are reported in Groups 2a & 2b. Click HERE to review the report.

(D2b) genetic comparisons to descendants of Archibald Stark (Group 2b) or Dr. Richard Starke (Group 2a), will, statistically, be identical to (C1a)'s genetic comparisons to these Members. Therefore, the Report 2 analysis also applies to (D2b) and (D2a). What is missing is the genealogical connection of Charles Troup Stark and Abner Stark to James Stark [1696-1754]. Assuming Abner was a grandfather of Charles Troup Stark, it would appear K2 and K1 are possibly missing two or three generations between Abner Stark and James Stark.

The lineage presented is not known with certainty earlier than Charles Troup Stark. Circumstantial evidence suggests William Stark who married Rachel Jenkins, may have died before or soon after the birth of Charles Troup Stark. Rachel may have married J. McBride before 1860. The Cass County, Texas 1860 census reports Chas Stark, age 6, living in the home of J. McBride. This census reports he and his older brother, 8 year old Jesse Abner Stark, were born in Georgia, as was a 28 year old female, M. McBride, believed to be the mother of the Stark Brothers. The genealogical research for the connection K1 and K2 to James Stark [1696-1754] continues.

#A-Private - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Abner Stark

b. Bet. 1790-1800 (Unknown)

d. Bet. 1832-1840 (Carroll Co., Georgia)

m. Alsey Unknown / Abt. 1820 / Unknown

Thomas H. Stark

b. Abt. 1829 (Georgia)

d. 03/26/1863 (Richmond City, Virginia; Civil War Casualty)

m. Sarah Ann Jenkins / 04/30/1848 / Carroll Co., GA

 Private

b.

d. 

m. 

Private

b.

d. 

m. 

Father

 

 

(D2c)

R. G.

Stark

#A-Private

Contact 1:  None

Contact 2: None

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 11 19 23 15 --- --- --- --- --- 12 12  

Comments 07/03/2012

#A-Private (D2c) was tested by Ancestry.com. Over the markers that could be compared to FTDNA Markers, (D2c) had a match ratio of 31/32, having a mismatch to #241988 (D2a) at Marker 27 (Gata-H4). This result suggests (D2a) and (D2c) could share a common ancestor. In particular, observe William Stark, probable ancestor of (D2a), married Rachel M. Jenkins in Carroll County, Georgia 11/07/1847. Observe Thomas H. Stark married Sarah Ann Jenkins in Carroll County, 04/30/1848. Suggests William Stark and Thomas H. Stark were brothers who married sisters. Further suggests Abner Stark was their father.

The 32 marker results for (D2a) & (D2c) suggests they share a common ancestor, most likely Abner Stark, and, genetically, they share a common ancestor with all members of Group 2, In particular, (D2a) is a perfect 37 marker match to two members of Group 2 who are descendants of James Stark [1696-1754] who lived in Stafford County, Virginia. Genetically, this suggests (D2a) is most likely also a descendant of James. Because (D2a) & (D2c) are genetically close matches, (D2c) most likely is a descendant of James. The genealogical research for the connection to James Stark [1696-1754] continues.

[Note: The "-" indicates these markers were not available for comparison to the FTDNA markers used in Panel 3. For Ancestry.com value to be equivalent to FTDNA value at Marker 36: Subtract 5 from Ancestry.com value to be equivalent to FTDNA value. In this case the Ancestry.com value was 17. The FTDNA Value presented would be 17-5 = 12]

 

#175209 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Unknown

b.

d.

m.

Thomas Jefferson Starks

b. 1815 (Virginia)

d. After 1870 (Gilmer County, Georgia)

m. Catherine Nelson / Abt. 1837 / ?North Carolina?

John P. Starks

b. 1843 (North Carolina)

d. About 1877 (Gilmer County, Georgia)

m. Nancy E. Whisenant / 11/16/1866 / Gilmer Co., GA

William P. Starks

b. 11/16/1868 (Gilmer County, Georgia)

d. 03/13/1957 (Cohutta, Whitfield County, Georgia)

m. 2nd Sallie Kear / 12/07/1905 / Whitfield Co., GA  

George Wesley Starks

b. 04/20/1915 (Cohutta, Whitfield County, Georgia) 

d. 09/10/1987 (Cohutta, Whitfield County, Georgia)

m. Mossie Gamblin 

Father

 

(D3a)

Kevin Lamar Starks

#175209

Contact: kevin.starks@hotmail.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 12 13 28  
P2 18 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  

Comments 05/14/2010

#175209 (D3a) has a genetic distance of 2 when compared to the most common H37 Haplotype for Group 2. In compared 37 Markers to #115170 (D1a), #171929 (C2b), and #74402 (C1a), the probability that (D3a) and these members of Group 2 shared a common ancestor within the last 20 generations is 99.43%. The genealogy of (C1a) and (C2b) suggests they are descendants of James Stark [1696-1754] of Stafford County, Virginia. These genetic comparisons suggest #175209 (D3a) most likely also shares James Stark [1696-1754] as a common ancestor.

Note: When a DYS- 389-1 (Marker 10) and DYS-389-2 (Marker 12) comparison yields a difference at both of these markers, they can represent a mutation of 1 rather than 2 if the mutation is plus 1 at both markers or - 1 at both markers. In this case, the mutation is -1 at both Markers relative to the most common allele values for Markers 10 and 12. Therefore, the genetic distance over the H12 Haplotype is 1. Adding the observed mutation at Marker 15 results in a total genetic distance of 2 over the H37 Haplotype when compared to the most common H37 Haplotype in Group 2.

Subgroup 2E: Genetic Matches to Subgroups 2A, 2B, & 2C with Different Surnames

#N6868 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

William Sims (Stark) Kelly b. 03/17/1738 (Ireland)
d. 12/13/1824 (Franklin County, Indiana)
m. Mary Durham / 1770 / Bute Co., NC
William Durham Kelly b. 05/06/1783 (Wake County, North Carolina)
d. 06/28/1868 (Winston County, MIssissippi)
m. Miriam Lloyd / 1806 / Clarke Co., GA
Sims Kelly b. 11/23/1818 (Franklin County, Tennessee)
d. 06/24/1862 (POW Camp Douglas, Chicago, Illinois)
m. Eliza Patton / 12/19/1841 / Talladega Co., AL
John Patton Kelly b. 11/11/1843 (Talladega County, Alabama)
d. 07/07/1907 (Yazoo County, MIssissippi)
m. Mary F. Moore / 12/23/1868 / Yazzo Co., MS
Charles William Kelly, Sr. b. 05/28/1870 (Sartaria, Yazoo County, Mississippi)
d. 11/14/1944 (Monroe, Quachita Parish, Louisiana)
m. Kylie Herren / 01/17/1894 / Yazoo Co., MS
Charles William Kelly, Jr. b.09/30/1898 (Yazoo County, Mississippi)
d. 09/22/1984 (Monroe, Quachita Parish, Louisiana)
m. Mary B. Cason / 05/03/1920 / Unkown

Charles William Kelly, III

b. 02/22/1921 (Pollack Parish, Louisiana)

d. 05/05/1953 (Salzburg, Austira, USAF)

m. Dorthy G. Reeves / 10/04/1942 / Monroe Co., MS

Father

 

(E1a)

Charles William Kelly, IV

#N6868

Contact:  charles.kelly@ci.shreveport.la.us

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1b2a1b5 (Confirmed) (R-L21)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 19 36 36 12 12  
P4 11 9 15 16 9 10 10 8 10 10      
P5 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 17 8 11      
P6 22 20 14 12 11 14 11 11 12 12      
Comment: #N6868 (E1a) has the surname Kelly. Earliest ancestor lived in Ireland. Has a genetic distance of 1 when his H67 haplotype is compared to #171929 (C2b). Possible (E1a) and (C2b) have a common ancestor who lived before surnames were fully established (between the years 1200 and 1500); or there was a surname change from Stark to Kelly after a Stark family moved from Scotland to Ireland (about 1620 to 1720). (E1a)  also has a genetic distance of 1 from the most common H67 modal haplotype in this group. There is a low probability of 94.86% he shares a common ancestor with (C2b) within 8 generations and a high probability of 99.99% he shares a common ancestor with (C2b) within 20 generations. Therefore, if they have an common ancestor, he may have lived between 7 and 19 generations earlier. This comparison  suggest they may share a common ancestor who lived between 7 (94.86% probability) and 19 (99.99% probability) generations earlier. The Genetic comparison of(E1a) to (E2a) (having the same Kelly surname)s results in the same probabilities and conclusions related to a genetic distance of 1 over 67 markers

#226545 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

Unknown

No lineage information available at this time.

Father

 

(E2a)

William Milner Kelly, Jr.

#226545

Contact:  CarolineAncestry@aol.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R-DF21 (Confirmed)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  
P4 11 9 15 16 9 10 10 8 10 10      
P5 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 17 8 11      
P6 22 20 14 12 11 14 11 11 12 12      
Comment: #226545 (E2a) has the surname Kelly. Earliest ancestor probably lived in Ireland. He is a perfect match when his H67 haplotype is compared to #171929 (C2b). Possible(E2a) and (C2b) have a common ancestor who lived before surnames were fully established (between the years 1200 and 1500); or there was a surname change from Stark to Kelly after a Stark family moved from Scotland to Ireland (about 1620 to 1720). (E2a) is a perfect match to the H67 Modal haplotype for this group. There is a low probability of 98.96% he shares a common ancestor with (C2b) within 8 generations and a high probability of 100.00% he shares a common ancestor with (C2b) within 20 generations. Therefore, if they have an common ancestor, he may have lived between 7 and 19 generations earlier. His H67 Haplotype comparison to (C2b) suggest they may share a common ancestor who lived between 7 (98.96% probability) and 19 (100.00% probability) generations earlier. The Genetic comparison of (E1a) to (E2a) (having the same Kelly surnames) results in the same probabilities and conclusions related to a genetic distance of 1 over 67 markers..

#B6603 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

William Kidd b. abt. 1824 (Possible places of birth could be Arkansas or Kansas)
d.  12/13/1893 (Santa Rosa, California)
m. Elizabeth "Bessie" Unknown / bef. 1865 / Unknown

William Henry Kidd

b. 01/24/1865 (Gualala, Mendocino County, California)

d. 10/16/1932 ( Long Beach, California)

m. Lulu Gay Aldridge / Unknown / Unknown

Lawrence Joquin Kidd

b. 10/29/1910 (Long Beach, California)

d. 06/15/1987 (Long Beach, California)

m. Lavene Morris / Unknown / Unknown

William Henry Kidd, Sr.

b. 06/22/1936 (San Diego, San Diego County, California)

 d. 01/22/1997 (Orange, Orange County, California)

m. Alice Jane Dewey / Unknown / Unknown

Father

Private

(E3a)

William Henry Kidd, III

#B6603

Contact:  exdeokidd@gmail.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R-DF21 (Confirmed)

P1 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 13 15 17 17
P3 11 10 19 23 15 15 18 18 36 36 12 12  
P4 11 9 15 16 9 10 10 8 10 10      
P5 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 17 8 11      
P6 22 20 14 12 11 14 11 11 12 12      
Comment: #B6603(E3a) has the surname Kidd. Earliest ancestor lived in California. He is a perfect match when his H67 haplotype is compared to #171929 (C2b). Possible(E3a) and (C2b) have a common ancestor who lived before surnames were fully established (between the years 1200 and 1500); or there was a surname change from Stark to Kidd. (E3a) is a perfect match to the H67 Modal haplotype for this group. There is a low probability of 98.96% he shares a common ancestor with (C2b) within 8 generations and a high probability of 100.00% he shares a common ancestor with (C2b) within 20 generations. Therefore, if they have an common ancestor, he may have lived between 7 and 19 generations earlier. His H67 Haplotype comparison to (C2b) suggest they may share a common ancestor who lived between 7 (98.96% probability) and 19 (100.00% probability) generations earlier. The 67 marker Genetic comparison of (E3a) to (E1a) results in a low probability of 94.86% he shares a common ancestor with (E1a) within 8 generations and a high probability of 99.99% he shares a common ancestor with (E1a) within 20 generations.
   

Subgroup 2F: Genealogy Suggests Subgroup 2A, 2B, 2C; not Genetic match to These Members

#164272 - Lineage (Return to Y-DNA Test Results)

James Stark

b. About 1695 (Scotland)

d. 04/12/1754 (Stafford County, Virginia)

m.

Comment: Genetic Results suggest #164272 could not have shared a common ancestor within thousands of years with those in Subgroup 2C. Therefore the above is suggested from the Genealogical research; but not possible based on the Y-DNA Results.

John Stark

b. 1717 (Stafford Co, VA or Scotland)

d. 1781 (Stafford Co, VA) 

m. 2nd Hannah Eaves / 05/29/1756 / Stafford Co, VA

John Stark (Junior)

b. 19/09/1765 (Stafford Co, VA)

d. 1850 (Vermilion Co, IL)

m. Hannah / ca 1788 / Prob. VA

William Stark

b. ca. 1793 (Bourbon Co, KY or VA)

d. 1832-39

m. Mary Cassidy / ca 1817 / (Bourbon Co, KY)

William Stark (Junior)

b. 1828 (Nicholas Co, Kentucky)

d. After 1880 (probably Vermilion County, Illinois

m. Caroline Ragle / Oct 1848 / Prob. Putnam Co. IN

Leonard Stark

b. 1868 (Putnam County, Indiana)

d. after 1910 (probably Vermilion County, Illinois)

m. Evelyn McKerstry / about 1887 / Prob. Vermilion Co., IL

Austin Stark

b. 06/09/1898 (Vermilion County, Illinois)

d. 02/??/1981 (Vermilion County, Illinois

m. Mary Anna Puskac / abt. 1918 / Vermilion Co. IL

Paul Lenard Stark

#164272

Sponsor: Dianne Stark; mdstark22@yahoo.com

Y-DNA Results / Haplogroup: R1b1a2 (Predicted) (R-M269)

P1 13 25 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29  
P2 18 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 31 14 15 15 18
P3 10 11 19 24 16 15 18 17 37 38 12 11  

Comments 03/02/2010

When the H37 haplotype of #164272 was compared to #74402 in Subgroup 2C, there was a genetic distance of 16. There is a .05% probability they share a common ancestor who lived within the last 20 generations. The odds greatly favor they have not shared a common male ancestor in excess of 5,000 years. This result over the H 37 haplotype has clearly revealed #164272 was not a descendant of James or any other member of Group 2 above. 

The Genealogy suggests #164272 is a descendant of John Stark [1717-1781], son of James Stark of Stafford County, Virginia. Either John Stark [1717-1781] was not a son of James or there was a non-paternal event in the generation of James Stark or one of the generations that follows. Genetic results from a second descendant of John Stark [1717-1781] could resolve this issue in the future. Finally, there could be an error in the genealogy presented.

# 164272 & #171830 were a perfect match over the H12 Haplotype. However, the genetic distance increased to 13 in the H37 comparison. In comparing their H37 Haplotypes, the probability they shared a common ancestor within the last 20 generations is 2.59%. Their common ancestor most likely lived thousands of years earlier.

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