This newsletter will discuss Project activities from June 23 to July 13 in the year 2012. Project Membership is presently 88. We have 84 members who have been tested over 12 markers; 76 tested over 25 Markers; 67 over 37 markers; and 17 over 67 markers. A total of 6 have been Deep-Clade tested. Presently , we have 11 Groups with several of these having subgroups. We're hoping to add members from Europe for comparisons and would like to see more members join who descend from: Dr. Richard Starke of York Co., VA (Group 2a); Archibald Stark of New Hampshire (Group 2b);  the Fort Ann, Washington County, New York Families (Group 9); and the Georgia Families (Group 6). Also it would be interesting to see more members with known German (Group 8) and Canadian ancestry join. Following are Links to Titles in this Newsletter.

Project Business & Correspondence

Interesting Developments

Y-DNA Results

Project Business & Correspondence

Glasgow Scotland Visit

Robert Starke, a Group 2a descendant of Dr. Richard Starke, visited Scotland in Early June. He did some research on his Starke family at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow. The Librarian assisted him and located a microfiche entitled: "Index to Christenings in Glasgow." Robert hand copied every entry (about 100) prior to 1700, looking for anyone pertaining to Dr. Richard Starke (who arrived in VA in 1690). It is possible these records are digitized, but the Librarian did not know. Robert did not find any records pertaining to Dr. Richard Starke, but lots of other related names to the surname Starke. Robert's conclusion was Dr. Richard Starke did not live in the Glasgow region, at least was not recorded in this Index over the time period the records were searched. You can see Robert's lineage and contact info by clicking HERE.

Group 6c: Descendants of Abner Stark of Georgia

#241988 recently ordered a 37 marker kit and provided a lineage to his earliest known ancestor. While awaiting his results, Group 6c was temporarily created for placement of the lineage of #241988. 37 Marker Results posted 06/29/2012 revealed he is a genetic match to members of Group 2, descendants of the Scottish Killermont Stark Families. Therefore, Group 6c has been discontinued and #241988 has been placed in Group 2d. Click HERE for a more detailed explanation.

Interesting Developments

Group 2e: Genetic Matches to Subgroups 2A, 2B, & 2C with Kelly Surname

This Group was created when N6868 joined the project. His surname was Kelly and his 67 Marker results had a 66/67 match ratio when compared to the H67 Modal Haplotype for Group 2. #171929 (G2c) is a descendant of James Stark [1695-1754] and is a perfect 67/67 match ratio to the H67 Modal Haplotype. Mr. Kelley reported his earliest known ancestor was William S. Kelley, born in Ireland in 1738 and died in 1824.  There is a low probability of 94.86% he shares a common ancestor with #171929 within 8 generations and a high probability of 99.99% he shares a common ancestor with #171929 within 20 generations. It is possible N6868 and #171929 share a common ancestor who lived before surnames were fully established (between the years 1200 and 1500); or there was a surname change from Stark to Kelly after a Stark family moved from Scotland to Ireland (about 1620 to 1720). No genealogy has been been available.

July 3, 2012, the 67 markers results for another member with the surname Kelly were completed. Mr. Kelly2 (#226545) reports his earliest known ancestor was William Stark Kelly, born in 1739 and died in 1824. #226545 reported William's place of birth as unknown. When compared to N6868, #226545 had a match ratio of 66/67. When #226545 was compared to the H67 Modal Haplotype of Group 2, he had a perfect 67/67 match ratio. When compared to #171929, a descendant of James Stark [1695-1754], there is a low probability of 98.96% he shares a common ancestor with #171929 within 8 generations and a high probability of 100.00% he shares a common ancestor with #171929 within 20 generations. Therefore, if they have an common ancestor, he may have lived between 7 and 19 generations earlier.

N6868 and #226545 appear, genetically, to most likely be descendants of William Stark Kelly, whom they could share as a common ancestor. It would also seem they a common ancestor with Members of Group 2c, descendants of James Stark, this common ancestor most likely living prior to the generation of James Stark and, perhaps, within genealogical time. If prior to genealogical time, then the common ancestor most likely lived between the year 1200AD to, perhaps, the year 1400AD. If the middle name of the ancestor of #226545 was indeed Stark, then there must be some connection between this Kelly paternal branch and the Scotland Stark families of Killermont. More genealogy is needed to better understand the genetic connection of this Kelly surname to the Stark surname. Click HERE to compare their 67 marker results to other members of Group 2.

Group 2d: Descendants of James Stark [1695-1754] of Stafford Co., VA / Genealogy Incomplete

In the previous Newsletter, #241988, a descendant of Charles Troup Stark ordered a kit. From his genealogy, he was temporarily placed in Group 6, descendants of Old Georgia Stark families not related to other Groups in the project. The 37 marker results for #241988 became available for analysis 6/29/2012. These results revealed #241988 is genetically a match to members of Group 2, descendants of the Scottish Killermont Stark families. This would be the first Georgia family, to date, that has been genetically linked to one of the earlier Stark Families, most like James Stark [1695-1754] of Stafford County, Virginia. Based on this result, Group 6c has been discontinued and #241988 has been placed in Group 2d, primarily because the genealogy is incomplete at this time.

#241988 has well documented genealogical documentation indicating Charles Troup Stark [1854-1933] was born in Georgia. Researchers of this family have found circumstantial evidence Charles may have been a son of William Stark who married Rachel Jenkins November 7, 1847, in Carroll County, Georgia. They were reported living in nearby Cobb County in the 1850 census. Additional genealogical research implies William was the son of Abner Stark and spouse, Alsey (Unknown) Stark.  The following two records report they lived in Habersham County and Carroll County.

Source Citation: 1830 US Census; Census Place: Habersham, Georgia; Page: 58; NARA Series: M19; Roll Number: 18; Family History Film: 0007038.
Name: Abner Hark [Abner Stark]
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 2 / 30 thru 39: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 2 / 5 thru 9: 2 / 30 thru 39: 1
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Source: Carroll County Georgia Church New Hope Primitive Baptist (1829-1867)
URL: http://files.usgwarchives.net/ga/carroll/churches/newhope2.txt
MAR. 25, 1832: ABNER STARK and his wife AILSEY STARK Received By Letter from Providence in Habersham Co., dated Dec. 10, 1831.
JUNE 22, 1833: ABNER STARK and WIFE Dismissed By Letter

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Recently, the project found a descendant of Thomas H. Stark, a probable son of Abner Stark, who was genetically tested by Ancestry. com. Over the FTDNA markers that could be compared, this descendant of Thomas (Labeled by the project as #A-Private) had a 31/32 match ratio to #241988, genetically suggesting they may share Abner Stark as a common ancestor. That Thomas and William were brothers is further genealogically confirmed by a Carroll County marriage record reporting Thomas H. Stark married Sarah Ann Jenkins April 30, 1848 in Carroll County. Both William and Thomas, brothers who most likely married sisters, are recorded in the nearby Cobb County 1850 census. As will be reported under Y-DNA Results, another descendant of Charles Troup Stark, #245962, has ordered a 37 marker kit.  #245962 and #241988 are descendants of two different sons of Charles.

The descendants of Charles Troup Stark continue their genealogical research based on these suggested genetic connections. Click HERE to see there detailed lineage. Click HERE to see their Genetic results. 

#241988 (Roger Allen Stark, 37 Marker Results)

Test results over all 37 markers were available 06/29/2012. Based on the genealogy he submitted, Group 6c, descendants of Abner Stark, was temporarily created due to the connection to Georgia. His results revealed #241988 has genetic connection to members of Group 2, Descendants of the Scottish Killermont Stark Families. He is most likely a descendant of James Stark [1695-1754] of Stafford County, Virginia (Group 6c). While the descendants of Charles Troup Stark research the genealogical connection to Members of Group 2, #241988 will be placed in Group 6d, Genetic matches to Members of Group 6c, Genealogy Incomplete. Click HERE to see his Genetic Results. Click HERE to see his detailed Genealogical lineage.

#245962 (Donald Raymond Stark; New Member Joined 06/17/2012)

FTDNA estimates the Y-DNA37 Kit results for #245962  will be available for review 08/10/2012. He is also a descendant of Charles Troup Stark from a different son than the lineage of #241988.  Click HERE to see his detailed lineage in Group 2d.

#226545 (William Milner Kelly, Jr; 61-67 Marker Results)

His complete 67 marker results were available 07/03/2012. When compared over 67 markers to N6868, another project member with the surname Kelly in Group 2d, there was a genetic distance of 1. For a more detailed analysis of his results relative to N6868 and Members of the project with the surname Stark, click HERE.

This newsletter will discuss Project activities from May 25 to June 23 in the year 2012. Project Membership is presently 87. We have 82 members who have been tested over 12 markers; 75 tested over 25 Markers; 66 over 37 markers; and 17 over 67 markers. A total of 6 have been Deep-Clade tested. Presently , we have 11 Groups with several of these having subgroups. We're hoping to add members from Europe for comparisons and would like to see more members join who descend from: Dr. Richard Starke of York Co., VA (Group 2a); Archibald Stark of New Hampshire (Group 2b);  the Fort Ann, Washington County, New York Families (Group 9); and the Georgia Families (Group 6). Also it would be interesting to see more members with known German (Group 8) and Canadian ancestry join. Following are Links to Titles in this Newsletter.

Y-DNA Comparisons, A TMRCA Lesson

Y-DNA Results May 25, 2012 to June  22, 2012

When two persons in the project are compared, the Administrators use the FTDNA TIP Report to determine the Time To The Most Recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA). Many mistakenly believe the resulting probability values can precisely identify the Generation in which the common ancestor lived. However, the TIP report specifically reports: "the probability that A and B shared a common ancestor WITHIN the last x number of generations is xx.xx%." If for example, the TIP report states the probability A and B shared a common ancestor WITHIN the last 12 generations is 99.99%; it simply means there is a 99.99% probability the common ancestor  lived BETWEEN Generation 1 and Generation 12. To determine in which of these generations the common ancestor lived requires genealogical research.

TMRCA is a statistical calculation based on Haplotype and Marker mutation rates and the number of STR (Short Random Repeat) Markers available to make the comparison of A to B.  Fewer markers will lower the probabilities over, for example, 24 generations, while adding Markers increases the probabilities over the same generations. This is best illustrated in the following chart showing the TRMCA probabilities over 24 generations for PERFECT MATCH comparisons over 12, 25, and 37 STR Markers. Comparisons with less than Perfect Matches over these markers result in lower probabilities.

Y-DNA testing CANNOT: 1) Tell you who your ancestors are without comparing your genetic results to others; 2) Tell two participants precisely who their common ancestor is, even if they are perfect genetic STR matches; 3) Tell you precisely, even if the matches are perfect (or near prefect), the precise generation in which their common ancestor lived; nor 4) Precisely prove a specific paper trail.

Y-DNA testing CAN: 1) Indicate you and another participant with the SAME SURNAME share a common ancestor within genealogical time (defined as the time AFTER surnames were established in about 1400AD, or on average within 20 generations); 2) Provide an approximation how far back your common ancestor lived depending on the strength of the genetic match and availability of a genealogical paper trail; 3) Provide genetic evidence that unconnected genealogical lines are genetically connected depending on the strength of the genetic comparison; and 4) Provide genetic proof two genealogical lines ARE NOT connected within genealogical time.

As examples of what Y-DNA testing can do, our Project has proven a number of Group 1 unconnected genealogical lines share Aaron Stark [1608-1685] as a common Ancestor. The Project has also genetically proven members of Group 1, when compared to members of Group 2 (Killermont Stark Families), could not  have shared a common ancestor within thousands of years, contrary to earlier genealogical claims they all shared John Muirhead (Alias John Stark ) as a common ancestor in the fifteenth century. Finally, the three unconnected genealogical lines in Group 2 have genetically been proven to most likely share a common ancestor within genealogical time, although the identity of that ancestor is not known with certainty, but could most certainly, as genealogical research suggests,  share John Muirhead (Alias John Stark) as a common ancestor in the fifteenth century. These are a few examples of the Project successes in determining TMRCA. 

Y-DNA Results May 25, 2012 to June  22, 2012

#89006 (John Starke: Upgrade to 67 markers)

Test results were available 06/04/2012. In Group 4: Descendants of Col. John Starke, #89006 and #149455 were a perfect match over the H37 haplotype; resulting in a 99.99% probability they share a common ancestor who lived within 20 generations. The H37 haplotype comparison of #78032 and #149455 reveals they have three mismatches and a genetic distance of 3. There is a 96.97% probability they share a common ancestor who lived within 20 generations. This comparison confirms #89006 is related to #78032 and #N47628; and all members of Group 4 have a common ancestor who lived within 20 generations. The genealogy of #149455 has been confirmed to be John Wyatt Starke [1796-?1860?] but the genealogical connection to Col. John Starke has not been found. The perfect match of #149455 to #89006 over 37 markers further confirms the two share a common ancestor, most likely Col. John Starke. #89006 has now been upgraded to 67 markers; the only member of Group 4 tested over 67 markers. His results over 67 markers can be reviewed in Group 4 on the 67 Marker Results Web Page.

#241988 (Roger Arlen Stark: New Member Joined 05/22/2012)

Y-DNA37 Kit for #241988 was received at FTDNA 06/06/2012. FTDNA estimates his results will be available for review 07/20/2012. His lineage can be reviewed on the Other Group Lineages Web Page under Group 6c: Old Georgia Stark Families; Descendants Abner Stark, Carroll Co., GA.

#194718 (William L. Higgs: New Member Joined 06/08/2012)

194718 (L1) has the surname Higgs and reports he recently found out he was adopted. He originally joined the FTDNA supported project entitled: "The Global Adoptee Genealogy Project." His Y-DNA67 genetic results are a perfect 37 and 67 Marker match to 75156 (L), a member of Group 1a. #194718 has been assigned to Group 1a with the Letter ID Code (L1).

Genetically, the FTDNA Tip comparison of L1 to L results in a 98.96% probability they share a common ancestor within the last 8 generations; or could share William Stark (third) as a common ancestor. There is a 99.81% probability L and L1 share Aaron Stark [1608-1685] as a common ancestor within 11 generations. Click HERE to see his 67 marker genetic results. Click HERE to see his 37 Marker Results.

The identity of L1's paternal parent and direct male ancestral line cannot be genealogically determined with certainty at this time. Because L shares Aaron Stark [1608-1685] as a common ancestor with other members of Group 1 (Click HERE to see proof); it is genetically probable L1 most likely shares Aaron Stark [1608-1685] as a common ancestor with members of Group 1. It is also genetically probable  L1 shares William Stark (Third) as a common ancestor with #75156 within 8 generations. Click HERE to review the lineage of #194718 (L1) and #75156 (L) presented directly above.

#245962 (Donald Raymond Stark: New Member Joined 06/17/2012)

Y-DNA37 Kit for #245962 was ordered 06/17/2012 and mailed by FTDNA 06/18/2012. Awaiting return to FTDNA before reporting an estimated date for Results.

Genealogical research suggests #245962 and #241988 share Charles Troup Stark as a common ancestor, as presented in the Group 6c lineage report for #241988. Because of the Georgia ancestry suggested, Group 6c has been temporarily created until the Y-DNA results are available. #245962 and #241988 are descendants of two different sons of Charles Troup Stark.

Stark Family Y-DNA Project Newsletter, Vol. 2012; Report 1
Prepared by Clovis LaFleur; May 4, 2012

This newsletter will bring the membership up to date from January to May 4 on the project activities during the year 2012. Project Membership is presently 83. We have 79 members who have been tested over 12 markers; 72 tested over 25 Markers; 63 over 37 markers; and 15 over 67 markers. A total of 6 have been Deep-Clade tested. Presently , we have 12 Groups with several of these having subgroups. Group 1 has the largest number of members with The largest number of participants, 32, have been placed in Subgroups 1a & 1b, descendants of two sons of Aaron Stark [1608-1685] of New London County, Connecticut.  This Newsletter has been organized into sections as follows:

Y-DNA Results January 1, 2012 to May 2, 2012

Y-DNA Groups Added 2011-2012

New Web Pages Added in 2011 and 2012

Y-DNA Results January 1, 2012 to May 2, 2012

Following are results posted for new members who joined this year and results for present members who ordered Y-DNA upgrades this year.

#233230 (Richard J. Stark)

He was a perfect match over 37 Markers to the Group 1 H37 Modal Haplotype and predicted by FTDNA to belong to Haplogroup R1b1a2. He was aware of his genealogy back to his gg-grandfather, James Wallace Stark [1844-1912]. Our Project genealogical research volunteers found his obvious genetic connection to Aaron Stark [1608-1685], the common ancestor of all Group 1 project members. The research revealed the parents of James Wallace Stark were most likely Aaron Stark [1804-1864] and Mary Hunt, residents of Erie County, Ohio; who moved from Seneca County, New York in about the year 1830 or before. #233230 has been placed in Subgroup 1b, descendants of Aaron Stark (Junior) [1654-1701], son of Aaron Stark [1608-1685]. Before the move to Seneca County, New York, the father of Aaron Stark [1804-1864], Isaac Stark [1758-1824], lived in Morris County, New Jersey. The lineage for #233230 can be found on the Group 1 Lineage WebPage.

#111445 (Michael Thomas Starks)

Ordered a Y-DNA Upgrade to 37 Markers. His FTDNA results were available 5/2/2012. Michael is a 1st cousin of #137905 (Charles L. Starks) in Group 3, descendants of Zerubabel Starks. The Mother of #111445 is a sister of the Father of #137905; but the legal surname of #111445 is Starks. As expected, his Y-DNA does not match those in Group 3; although he is a descendant of Zerubabel Starks through his mother. According to the FTDNA database, over 37 markers, #111445 has a genetic distance of 1 from a person with the surname Terrell and a genetic distance of 4 from a person with the surname Hutchens; the only surname matches reported by FTDNA with 4 or less mismatches over 37 markers. #111445 has been placed in Subgroup 3B; Other Descendants of Zerubabel Starks [1760-1800] of Robertson County, Tennessee.

#230493 (Robert Eugene Starks)

Ordered a Y-DNA25 test kit. His results over 25 markers were reported 5/2/2012. He was a perfect match to the Group 1 H25 Modal Haplotype; descendants of Aaron Stark [1608-1685]. Due to the genealogy submitted by #230493 and researched by our genealogical research volunteers, he has been placed in Subgroup 1A, descendants of William Stark [1664-1730]. #230493 and #78077 (Don Stark) share Enoch Stark [1794-1864] as a common ancestor and are a perfect match over Markers 1-12, but differ at Marker 21 (DYS449] over Markers 13-25. In comparing over the Y-DNA25 markers, which show 1 mismatch, the probability that (230493) and (78077) shared a common ancestor within the last 11 generations is 71.48%; and share a common ancestor within the last 20 generations is 93.74%. An upgrade by #230493 to 37 markers would most likely improve both generation probabilities. In comparing members with the Group 1 H25 modal haplotype, whom are a perfect match to (230493), the probability that (230493) and these Group 1 Members shared a common ancestor within the last 11 generations is 92.58%; and a common ancestor within the last 20 generations is 99.12%. This genetic comparison provides sufficient confidence #230493 shares Aaron Stark [1608-1685] as a common ancestor with other members in Group 1.

#232326 (Homer Marshall Stark)

Ordered a Y-DNA37 test kit. His completed test results were reported 4/19/2012. His results indicate he is a descendant of a Stark Family not genetically represented in our Project at this time. Over 37 markers, the genetic distance of #232326 is 13 or greater when compared to all other members of the Project. When compared to Project Member #82072, a descendant of Zerubabel Starks (Group 3), the genetic distance is 13 and there is a 10.26% probability they share a common ancestor within 20 generations. Therefore, they could not have shared a common ancestor within genealogical time (defined as after surnames were established in the 13th & 14th centuries in Western Europe), nor within thousands of years. FTDNA has predicted the Haplogroup of #232326 is R1b1a2.

Could all the Georgia Stark/Starks/Starke families be descendants of one common ancestor Benjamin Stark/Starks [b. 1774, Augusta Co., VA - d. 1815, Orange Co., NC]? We cannot answer this question until we have results from other men with Georgia ancestral links and the surname Stark/Starks/Starke. #232326 is clearly not a genetic descendant of James Stark of Stafford County, VA, nor of Dr. Richard Starke of York County, VA, nor any other known Stark/Starks families in our project originating in Virginia. This suggests there were more unrelated Stark families in Early Virginia (before 1800) than the previous genealogical research has identified.

#232326 will be our first Project Member genetically and genealogically identified as a descendant of Benjamin Stark/Starks born in Greenville, Augusta County, Virginia in the year 1774, who will, hopefully, be joined by others in the future. Because this is a new Stark family branch, Group 11 has been created and labeled: "Descendants of Old Georgia Stark/Starks/Starke Families." [Note: Group 6, descendants of Thomas Starke, most likely born 1724 in Louisa Co., VA; has one descendant branch that arrived in Georgia between 1770 and 1816 (Progenitor Phillip Jones Stark). Located in Walton and Whitfield Counties. No genetic relation to #232326 after genealogical time. Groups will be kept separate until more members join that genetically match members of Groups 6 & 11.]

N56748 (Michael Clint Stark)

Upgraded from Y-DNA12 to Y-DNA67. Results have been reported for the additional markers accept for Markers 26-37. Markers 38-47, 61-67, 48-60, and 13-25 have been completed and reported as of 3/29/2012. FTDNA estimates Markers 26-37 will be available 5/21/2012. N56748 is a member of Subgroup1a, Descendants of William Stark (Senior) [1664-1730]. His H25 Haplotype is a perfect match to the Aaron Stark H25 Modal Haplotype. Over Markers 38-67, N56748 has, relative to the Aaron Stark Modal Haplotype over these Markers, a mutation at Marker 64 (DYS572). Of the 7 members of Group 1 tested over Markers 38-67, this has been the only observed mutation relative to the Aaron Stark Modal Haplotype over these markers. This upgrade from 12 markers has further confirmed N56748 shares Aaron Stark [1608-1685] as a common ancestor with other members of Subgroup 1B.

228697 (John Albert Stark)

Ordered a Y-DNA37 test kit. His completed results were reported 3/1/2012. #228697 has been predicted to have the SNP mutation placing him in the R1a1 Haplogroup. His genealogy reports his earliest known ancestor was born in 1823 in West Prussia. This ancestor arrived in the US sometime after 1850. He has a genetic distance of 17 from #140291, a predicted member of the same Haplogroup.  #228697 has been placed in Group 8, Descendants of German Immigrants to the US. Within this Group he has been placed in Subgroup 8C, German Descendants in Haplogroup R.

180952 (Ralph J Stark)

Upgraded from Y-DNA12 to Y-DNA37. #180952 has been tested over 37 markers, his results available 2/21/2012. He is a perfect match to the Aaron Stark Modal Haplotype for Group 1. This result confirms he shares Aaron Stark [1608-1685] as a common ancestor through one of his sons, William Stark (Senior) or Aaron Stark (Junior). However, no genealogy has been submitted at this time to determine from which son #180952 descends. He has been placed in Subgroup 1C; Genetic Matches to Subgroup 1A & 1B / Surname Stark / Genealogy Incomplete.

Y-DNA Groups Added 2011-2012

Group 8: Descendants of German Heritage
Group 8 is comprised of members whose direct male ancestor was of known German Heritage. The project objectives for this group is to: 1) find genetic matches; 2) possible place where a direct male ancestor lived in Germany; and 3) evaluate the various Haplogroups that may occur. To date, three Haplogroups have been identified. Two members H37 Haplotype comparison suggested a possible common ancestry, but comparisons over all of the Markers were not available. Any combination of Comparisons of members in this group results in genetic distances suggesting their common ancestor lived many thousands of years earlier than the present. Differences in the Primary Haplogroups E, G, and R further suggests a common ancestor who lived greater than 10,000 years earlier.

Group 9: Descendants of Ft. Ann, Washington County, New York Stark Families
Members of this Group have genealogy suggesting they are descendants of Stark families that lived in Ft. Ann, Washington County, New York. They were expected to have genetic results placing them in Group 1 or Group 2. However, thus far, this Group of participants has not been found to be genetically close to any members of the project, the exception being #203166; genetically confirmed to be a descendant of Aaron Stark and related to members of Group 1. There may be a non-paternal explanation. However, this has now occurred in this specific region of New York State twice. Will be looking for future participants who have ancestors who live in this region to see if this is a trend or if we find matches between any participants in Group 9.

Group 11: Descendants of Old Georgia Stark/Starks/Starke Families
Genetic results for participants who report lineage from Georgia ancestors, will be placed in Group 11; unless their genetic results clearly compare favorably with other Groups in the Project. #232326 is now a representative of a previously unknown early American Stark Family in our project, believed to be descendants of one Benjamin Stark/Starks born in Greenville, Augusta County, Virginia in the year 1774. #232326 is clearly not a descendant of James Stark of Stafford County, VA, nor of Dr. Richard Starke of York County, VA, nor other Stark/Starks families originating in Virginia. Benjamin's son, Benton Stark/Starks was most likely born in about 1797 in either Wake County or Orange County, North Carolina ,and, after his marriage to Nancy Goodson in 1825, moved to Clarke County, Georgia and later to nearby Jackson County, Georgia. Over 37 markers, #232326 has a genetic distance of 13 or greater when compared to other members of the project. When compared to #82072, a descendant of Zerubabel Starks (Group 3), the genetic distance is 13 and there is a 10.26% probability they share a common ancestor within 20 generations. Therefore, they could not have shared a common ancestor within genealogical time (defined as after surnames were established in the 13th & 14th centuries in Western Europe), nor within thousands of years. Could the Georgia Stark/Starks/Starke families be descendants of one common ancestor? More participants from men with the surname Stark who descend from Georgia Stark families will need to be tested to answer this question and others. [Note: Group 6, descendants of Thomas Starke, most likely born 1724 in Louisa Co., VA; has one descendant branch that arrived in Georgia between 1770 and 1816 (Progenitor Phillip Jones Stark). Located in Walton and Whitfield Counties. No genetic relation to #232326 after genealogical time. Groups will be kept separate until more members join that genetically match members of Groups 6 & 11.]

New Web Pages Added 2011-2012

Group 8: Y-DNA Analysis Stark Descendants of German Heritage

Introduction

Group 8 is comprised of members with direct male lineage to a male Stark ancestor who was an immigrant from Germany to another Country or presently lives in Germany. The project objectives for this group are to: 1) find genetic matches; 2) possible place immigrated from in Germany; and 3) evaluate the various Haplogroups that may occur. Subgroups for Group 8 have been created based on the predicted or confirmed Haplogroup of each member. This organization of members of Group 8 will allow placement of members in subgroups that will more likely have genetic matches. When persons with different Major Haplogroups are compared to each other, there will be zero probability they shared a common ancestor after surnames were established in Europe in the 14th & 15th centuries. Further, the most recent common ancestor they could have shared lived more than 10,000 years before the present.

Group 9: Analysis of Descendants Fort Ann, Washington Co., NY Stark Families

 Latest Project Newsletter

Rather than send lengthy e-mail messages on the latest activities, the latest activities will posted on the Stark Family Y-DNA Project Web Site. Members will be contacted by e-mail when new information is available with a link to this page reported in the message. We will also send a message to the Stark Messages boards.