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Subject: CUMMIN(G)S,COMYN'S/FAMILIES - 11 / 2 - 1
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:25:32 EST
From: Chascum
aol.com
hope you all had a good thanksgiving
Thanks to all of you for your help, remember you are the ones that
make this
work
and without your help it will not work ............. thanks again
for your
help
hope this finds everyone well Charlie
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the purpose of this list is to get you all talking to each other and
to be
able to hopefully share that information with the rest of us about
this
Family's name regardless of how it is spelled or is in direct
relationship
to each other and to help all/each other in putting the pieces
together in
our search for their own lineage of
the CUMMIN(G)S/COMYN'S FAMILY ,...........
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A word of warning. All data here is a compilation of many
researchers
efforts. Not all the data here is documented or referenced so it
would
benefit you and/or anyone you share this research with to verify this
data
before accepting it's authenticity ........
Please Do not let this deter you from submitting undocumented
data as
even unproven data can lead you in the right direction and someday
might be
proven. just try to let every one know that it is not documented
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thanks Charlie
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Descendants of Isaac Cummings of Ipswich/Topsfield, Massachusetts.
http://www.kichline.com/carrie/Icfa/index.htm
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Visit Patrick S. Cummins Site, Researching Descendants of
Cummin(g)s,
Hamilton, Kraft, Smith, Stover, Lewallen, and Pennell families.
www.thecomyn.com
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Subj: Re: CUMMIN(G)S,COMYN'S/FAMILIES - 11 / 1 - 1
Date: 11/22/02 10:54:37 PM Central Standard Time
From: SSerfecz
To: Chascum
Hi Charlie,
This note is in reference to your posting on Leonard and Mary Kelley.
This
probably isn't much help but my family is possibly related to Kelley.
My
great great grandmother was a Dora C. Woodcock before she got married
to John
Veatch. She was in Iowa and supposedly went to church meetings with
the
mother of Herbert Hoover in Iowa. I am related to the Minthorns
through
Gruewell/Pennock (now Panik). What caught my attention is that we
are also
related to the Fuller and Rose families. Somehow there is a
connection to
the Dorworths (married a May Kelley) and a Harry P. (Patterson)
Kelley who
had a daughter Mary born April 20, 1892. Harry P. Kelly was married
to Mary
Mosebarger and had 6 children--Mary, John, Logan, Thomas, Paul, and
Justina.
These Kelleys were from Clearfield County PA. My family was from
what is now
Centre County. The mother, Mary, was a schoolteacher in Snowshoe,
PA. Don't
ask me what our exact relationship is to this Kelley family. I
really don't
know besides the fact they transferred title of some mining land to
my great
grandparents. I believe Kelleys were also neighbors of my great
grandparents. Our family also has marriages with Packards and
Cummings.
Again, I know it's not much but who knows--the families moved around
a lot
those days...Thanks, Sue
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can any one help on this on charlie
Subj: Isabelle Cummings
Date: 11/23/02 10:41:11 AM Central Standard Time
From: coulterdtelusplanet.net (Donna Coulter)
To: chascumaol.com
Dear Charlie;
It has been simply ages since I have been in touch.
I thought I had better report that I have found Isabelle.
She died in Portland Oregon in 16 Aug 1945. age 92.
Predeceased by husband John (abt 1900 I think)
Now I would like to find her family.
John Frederick A (Fred) Cummings
Isabelle, &Olive
Ethel (Cummings) Nichol
And Asal Franklin R (Roy) Cummings.
I have been unable to obtain an obituary for Isabelle even tho I have
tried
to contact a professional genealogist. Any suggestions?
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Subj: Thomas Cummings -Steamboat Captain
Date: 11/23/02 7:40:30 AM Central Standard Time
From: MBell3600
To: Chascum
Looking for any info on Thomas Cummings, born about 1815 in AL. On
1850 AL
census for Cherokee Co., AL, Thomas was listed with his wife
Catherine and
children William, Margaret and Catherine. Born after 1850, in
Tuscaloosa Co.,
was another daughter Nannie. Looking for any information on these
children
and possibly wife Catherine's maiden name born in Loudoin Co., VA abt
1824.
Thomas was a steamboat captain, and in the 1860s he was captain of
the
steamboat "Cherokee".
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Subj: Cummin(g)s,Comyn/Families
Date: 11/25/02 12:07:41 PM Central Standard Time
From: Rewob4414
To: Chascum
Chester L. Comins 85, Prescott Valley, Arizona, died November 18,
2002.
Private Family Service, Arizona Ruffner Wakelin Funeral Home..Som
Some marriages of Clark Co. Kentucky.
i Oct 1813 Tacy Cummins & Barnet Parish: Williams Cummins--Bond.
5 Dec. 1816 Ann Cumins & John Smieht:---Williams Cummins---Bond
13 Jan 1814 Elizabeth Cummins & George Bryant; Daniel
Cummins---Bond
1 Sep 1814 Sarah Cummins & Caleb Didwell; Daniel Cummins---Bond
27 Oct 1817 John Cummings & Cintha Railsbuck; Daniel
Railsbbuck---Bond
26 Oct 1818 John Cummings & Mounrning A. Jones; Isham Baker---Bond
8 May 1819 Washing Cummings & Elizabeth Ferris; David
Mainer---Bond
19 Mar 1817 Malinda Cummins & Absalom Low; William Cimmins---Bond
9 Oct 1817 Polly Cummins & John Metcalf; Christopher
Cummins---Bond with
consent of father Daniel Cumins---Attest, William Jones and Zack
Field.
3 Jan 1804 Elizabeth Cummins & Ambrose Crimm; Benjamin
Cummins---Bond
3 Apr 1806 Cathern Cummins & Robert Richards; Christopher
Cummims---Bond
with consent of father Daniel Cummins; Attest, Nathaniel Mathews
21 Jan 1807 Samuel Arbuckle & Anna Arbuckle "Cummins"; Daniel
Cummins-Bond
24 Mar 1807 John Cummins & Elizabeth McIntire: Francis
McIntire---Bond
18 May 1808 Christopher Cummins & Elizabeth Davis; John
Davis---Bond
10 Jul 1805 William Cummins & Milly Beasly; John Reese---Bond
23 Dec 1811 Thomas Cummins & Elizabeth Low: Jno. Blythe--Bond.
Consent
of father, John Low. Attest Absalom Low
Marriages of Bourbon Co. Kentucky.
17 Jan 1794 John Cummings & Alice Lewis; Consnet of John Cummings
Sr.
5 Apr 1791 James Cummins & Mary Sutton; Nathaniel Sutton ---Bond
17 Nov 1824 John Cummins & Sarah Hutchison: Consent of father
peter
Hutchison
4 Jun 1827 Ambrose Cummins & Sarah Grigg;
9 May 1805 Andrew Cummins & Jenny Johnston; William Hefling--Bond
15 Jan 1805 John B. Cummins & Priscilla Baseman; Consent of Josh
Hale gdn.
23 Oct 1823 Edward Cummins & Sally McCarty; William Coburn
---Bond
7 Jan 1833 Preston Cummins & Eliza Hardesty; Frank
Hardesty---Bond
1 Nov 1822 Joseph Cumins & America Bates; Marian Bates---Bond
15 Sep 1810 Samuel Daviddson & Nancy Cummins; Jacob
Cummins---Bond
Cummins Marriages in Oendleton Co. Kentucky between 1799 and 1843.
18 Jun 1822 John Agnew & Mary Cummins.
8 Sep 1831 George Cummins & Sarah Adams
6 Apr 1839 Josephus Cummins & Matenda Hardin
3 Jan 1843 Henry Agnew & Nancy Cummins.
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Subj: Obit
Date: 11/25/02 5:53:04 AM Central Standard Time
From: charles.e.cumminsboeing.com (Cummins, Charles E)
To: chascumaol.com ('chascumaol.com')
The Wichita Eagle
Posted on Mon, Nov. 25, 2002
Deaths & Services
Today's obituaries from around Kansas.
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Liberal Kansas
Cummins, Donna, 74, died Saturday, Nov. 23, 2002.
Visitation with family 6 to 8 p.m. Tuesday, Brenneman Funeral Home;
service
10 a.m.
Wednesday, First United Methodist Church. Survivors: husband,
Howard;
son, Hal of Coppell, Texas; daughters, Dr. Christine Jones of
Leadville,
Colo.,
Sandi Yankee of Dallas, Kathy Stauffer of Clarkston, Mich.; brother,
Gene Lusk of Livingston, Texas; sister, Lorene Altmann of Wichita;
six
grandchildren.
Memorial established with A.L.S. Association Keith Worthington
Chapter.
Condolences may be sent to the family via www.kitchfuneralhome.com
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Subj: Cummins family
Date: 11/24/02 2:52:10 AM Central Standard Time
From: cliff.cumminsbtinternet.com
My family was in London from about 1850, before that Cheshire and
possibly
Macclesfield. I think we came from Eire originally. Given name of
Royle
appears in my name and previous 4 generations. Clifford Royle
Cummins, Royle
Frank C, Royle James C, Edwin Royle C, John Royle C, then William C
Any help would be appreciated, thanks
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Subj: Anyone we know?
Date: 11/25/02 11:25:08 PM Central Standard Time
From: MeadHome
To: Chascum
NEW YORK (Nov. 25) - Federal authorities broke up what they called
the
biggest identity theft case in U.S. history and charged three men
Monday with
stealing credit information, draining victims' bank accounts and
ruining
their credit.
U.S. Attorney James Comey said the losses were calculated so far at
$2.7
million but would balloon to many more millions and affect consumers
in every
state. He said credit information for 30,000 people was stolen and
authorities are trying to determine how many of those individuals
were
victimized.
The prosecutor called the case ''every American's worst financial
nightmare
multiplied tens of thousands of times.''
Authorities said the scheme began about three years ago when Philip
Cummings,
a help-desk worker at Teledata Communications, a Long Island software
company, sold passwords and codes for downloading consumer credit
reports to
an unidentified person.
Cummings was allegedly paid roughly $30 for each report, and the
information
was then passed on to at least 20 other people, who set out to make
money
from the stolen information, prosecutors said.
''The potential windfall was probably far greater than the content of
a bank
vault, and they didn't even need a getaway car. All they needed was a
phone
and a computer, or so they thought,'' said FBI Assistant Director
Kevin P.
Donovan.
More than 15,000 credit reports were stolen from Experian, a credit
history
bureau, using passwords belonging to Ford Motor Credit Corp.,
officials said.
They said thousands of other credit reports were stolen from
companies such
as Washington Mutual Finance Co. in Crossville, Tenn.; Dollar Bank in
Cleveland; Sarah Bush Lincoln Health Center in Illinois; the Personal
Finance
Co. in Frankfort, Ind.; the Medical Bureau in Clearwater, Fla.;
Vintage
Apartments in Houston; and Community Bank of Chaska in Chaska, Minn.
Victims have reported losing money from their bank accounts, seeing
their
credit cards hit with unauthorized charges, and having their
identities
assumed by strangers.
Comey said one sobbing victim telephoned prosecutors to say someone
stole her
identity, opened a $35,000 line of credit and cashed a check for
$34,000.
''So that's now on her back, that $34,000,'' he said. ''The people
that take
the hit ultimately will be all of us, although in the short term it
will be
the companies that paid on the credit cards, the banks that lent them
money.''
Comey said many victims may not yet know they were defrauded. He
urged
consumers to pay closer attention to their financial statements and
credit
histories and learn how to protect themselves through the Federal
Trade
Commission's Web site.
Comey said there was no reason to suspect a terrorism connection,
with simple
greed the apparent motive. He said prosecutors were sending letters
to the
more than 30,000 victims, offering help.
He said the investigation was still in its early stages, though
prosecutors
had ''found the guys who opened the fire hydrant of fraud.''
Cummings, 33, of Cartersville, Ga., was released on $500,000 bond
after an
appearance in Manhattan federal court Monday at which he did not
speak. His
lawyer declined to comment on the charges. If convicted, Cummings
could get
up to 30 years in prison for wire fraud and millions in fines.
In addition to Cummings, the FBI also charged Linus Baptiste and
Hakeem
Mohammed in the fraud.
Baptiste allegedly downloaded hundreds of credit reports with
Cummings'
access passwords. Baptiste's lawyer declined to comment on the case.
Mohammed
has pleaded guilty to mail fraud for making changes to individual
credit
accounts.
In a company statement, Teledata officials said they had cooperated
with the
probe over the past eight months and were ''pleased to learn that it
has
apparently come to a successful conclusion.''
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Subj: Cummings in a Civil War Speech
Date: 11/22/02 9:56:09 PM Central Standard Time
From: makc98hotmail.com (Ann Cummings)
To: ChasCumaol.com
Haven't seen anything for a while about Kentucky Cummingses, so
thought I
would send you the following speech. It was so beautifully written,
I made
it into a poem. Too long for the newsletter I suppose. Hope you
find it
heart-rending and beautiful...there is a Cummings mentioned.
This speech was given by Keller Anderson of Memphis, TN, a native of
Kentucky and a member of Co. I, Fifth Kentucky Infantry, Kentucky
Orphan
Brigade and was printed in the Memphis Appeal Vol Xiii, page 500-501,
1905.
Republished from the Veteran of April 1893.
Winning the Battle of Chickamauga
There is a Southern mother here
Who says she wants to hear
The Rebel Yell once more.
This announcement transforms, and,
In an instant, I find myself
acting the humble part of file-closet,
Company I, Fifth Kentucky Infantry,
With pieces at the right shoulder
The Brigade in route column.
With the active, strong, swinging stride
of the enthusiastic, trained soldier,
They hold the "double-quick"
over rocks, logs, gullies, undergrowth,
Hill and vale.
Until, amid the foliage of the trees above them,
the hurtling shell and hissing shot
>From the enemy's field guns
Gives notice that, if retreating,
They have missed the way.
Yet, there is no command to halt.
Direct, on unchanged course,
This battle-scarred and glory mantled battalion
of Kentucky youths continues, and,
as they reach the open woods in clarion tones,
Comes to order.
"Change front,
Forward on first company"
The order, executed,
from them formed on ground but recently occupied
by a battalion of their foes
and few of these had left their positions.
The Battalion of Kentuckians were in battle array
where the foe once was.
But, now,
the ground was almost literally covered
with the Federal dead
The entire length of our regiment
of seven hundred men.
Men, did I say?
Soldiers is the word.
there were few men among them,
they being youths,
but soldiers indeed.
The increasing spat, whirr, and hiss
of the minie balls hurrying by
left no doubt of the fact
among these soldiers.
They are about to enter the action again
and "forward" is the order.
"Steady, men, steady;
hold your fire;
not a shot without arders!"
It is hard to stand
But, you must not return it.
We have friends in our front yet.
They are being hard-pressed.
And, their ammunition is almost expended.
But they are of our prodest and best
and Humphries Mississippians will hold that ridge
while they have a cartridge.
II
It is nearing sunset
and, after two days of fearful carnage,
Yea,
one of the best-contested battles of the times,
the enemy has been driven pellmell
from many parts of the field.
Our losses are numbered by thousands
and we are now advancing in battle array,
the little red flag with blue cross
dancing gayly in the air
over the heads of those who were there
to defend it.
The last rays of the setting sun
had kissed the autumn foliage
when we stepped into open ground
and found that we were among the wreck
of what, a few short minutes ago,
had been a superb six-gun battery.
The uniforms of the dead artillerymen
and the gayly caparisoned bodies
of many dead horses
proclaimed this destruction of the work
of our friends.
We look upon the dead
pull our cartridge boxes a little more to the front,
and resolve, once more, to face the destruction
we are now entering.
The boom of artillery increases.
The rattle of musketry is steady,
aye, incessant and deadly.
The sulphurous smoke has increased
until almost stifling.
Only fifty yards of space
separates us
from the gallant Mississippians
we are there to support.
They have clung to the ridge
with a deathlike grip
but their last cartridge
has been fired at the enemy.
And, their support being at hand,
these sturdy soldiers of Longstreet's Corps
are ordered to retire.
Simultaneously,
the support was ordered forward.
As the Mississippians retired,
the deep-volumned shouts of the enemy
told us plainer than could words
that the enemy thought they had routed us.
O, how differently we regarded the situation!
If they could have seen us as we;
halting, kneeling, lying down,
ranging ourselves in columns of files
behind large trees
to enable us to get at the enemy
with an unbroken front.
Each man as we passed
throwing cap high into the overhanging foliage
in honor of our presence.
Then, I imagin,
their shouts would have been surpressed.
"Steady in the center!"
"Hold your fire!"
"Hold the colors back!"
The center advanced too rapidly.
We are clear of our friends now.
Only the enemy in front
and we meet, face to face,
on a spur of Mission Ridge
which extends through the Snodgrass farm
and, we are separated by eighty yards.
Thud! ..and down goes Private Robinson.
He turned, smiled, and died.
Thud! Corporal Gray shot through the neck.
"Get to the rear"! I said.
Thud! Thud! Thud!
Wolf, Michael, and the gallant Thompson.
Thud! Thud! Thud!
Courageous Oxley,
The knightly Disha
..and the duty-loving Cummings.
And, thus it goes.
The fallen increase
and are to be counted by the hundreds.
The pressure is fearful
But the "sang-digger" is there to stay.
"Forward! Forward!"
rang out along the line.
We move slowly to the front.
There are now sixty yards between us.
The enemy scorn to fly;
he gives back a few paces;
he retires a little more,
but still faces us
and loads as he backs away.
We are now in the midst of his dead and dying,
but he stands as do the sturdy oaks about him.
We have all that is possible for human to bear.
Our losses are fearful
and each moment
some comrade passes to the unknown.
At last,
Humphries' Mississippians have replenished boxes
and are working around our right.
Trigg's Virginians
are uncovering to our left.
I feel a shock about my left breast
spin like a top in the air
and come down in a heap.
i know not how long before came the sounds
"Forward! Forward! Forward!
I rise on my elbow.
"Look! Look!
There they go!"
All at breakneck speed.
The bayonet at charge!
The firing appears to suddenly cease
for about five seconds.
Then,
Arose that do-or-die expression,
that maniacal maelstrom of sound,
that penetrating, rasping, shrieking,
blood-curdling noise
that could be heard for miles on eaerth
and whose volume reached the heavens.
Such an expression as never yet
came from the throats of sane men,
but, from men whom the searing blast
of an imaginary hell
would not check
while the sound lasted.
That was "the Rebel Yell".
That expression from the Confederate soldier
Always made my hair stand on end.
The young men and youths
who composed this unearthly music
were lusty, jolly, clear-voiced, hardened soldiers
full of courage
and proud to march in rags,
barefoot and dirty, and hungry,
with the best-fed army of modern times.
Although we will never grow old enough
to cease being proud
of the record of the Confederate soldier,
we can never again
produce "the Rebel Yell."
Never again,
Never, never, never.
Ann Cummings
412 West Laurel
Fort Collins, Colorado 80521
970-482-9362
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