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Beatty, Beattie, Beaty, Beatie  Batey and all spellings   

 

 

 

One of the many different Coats of Arms

used by the  descendants of Beatty surname.

 

I am a member of the Beatty Project 2000, but my site is not affiliated with that project/site, nor approved by it.

 

Beatty all spellings have been documented  in the UK and Ireland, India, Japan, Europe, North America, Mexico, South America, Australia and New Zealand.

My Beattys are documented to 1621 in Scotland, and are listed in the 

Burke's Peerage

 

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Various Spellings:

Baety, Beatty, Beaty, Beattie, Batey, Batty, Baty, Baity, Batte, Betty, Bate, Betti, Batie, Baley, Battie, Battey, 

 

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Historical facts put our name definitely in Scotland before 1600s as the Beattie's had their brocks in Eskdale certainly from the 1400 to the 1600s. At that time King James had his purge and we were spread around to places such as Ireland and England!

Peter who wrote this was asked where Eskdale was...

 

His answer:

Eskdale is in the heart of the Debateable Land North of the Scottish Border in the Riever territory before 1600 and King James. It is the valley of the river Esk and rises north of Eskdalemuir in the high ground and forests between Moffat and Hawick. This river joins others and flows down past Lanholm (of Baldy Beattie fame) and Cannobie then over the border and empties into the Solway Firth. Just to the south of Eskdalemuir on a tributory (Ribble Burn) once stood the Brock called Score that housed one of the Beattie Headmen. All the way down to Langholm once stood a series of  brocks which were the strongholds of several Beattie families. The connection between  them is unknown but could be connected to the Beattie grant of land by the Scottish King in the 1400s at Langholm. This land was aquired by the Scotts around 1600 by devious means!  Hope this helps 

Peter L-286 of the Beatty Project 2000

 

 

Scottish Border Reveirs

 

 

Whilst the border wars raged between England and Scotland through the 14th to the 16th centuries, the family clans of the border hills lived in their own state of semi-lawlessness. Sheep stealing and burning each others homes became part of their everyday life.

They were rugged, tough people who lived by their own laws and became known as the Border Rievers. Today their descendents can be found all over the world and include British Prime Ministers, American Presidents and the first man on the moon.

http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/vg/rvintro.html

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/myths_legends/scotland/borders/index.shtml

 

http://www.gretna-area.co.uk/pages/view.asp?Level=2&LevelID=132

 

http://www.rootsweb.com/~irluie2/Fun_Histories/reiver.htm

 

The Beatties were part of the Boarder Reivers cursed by the Catholic Church. This group of people  were land owners, but chose to plunder the English and the Scots. They crossed  the border to the north or the south as they saw fit.  The cursing they received was considered one of the most complete cursings ever given anyone or any groups of people.

 

 

 

It is hard to understand if the "Families" were Lowland Scots or Northern English. Ray in an email to me states "My reading of the history tells me the Reivers probably didn't refer to themselves as Scots." 

He points out

"1. They lived on both sides of the border. (One of our Beatty groups were north of the boarder in the Esk river valley.)

2.They were invaded for 500 years by the Scots from the north and the English from the south... No love lost for either the Scots or the English... 

In fact, early on ...I think 1500s... our Beattys were defeated by the "Scot" family.. 

3. They spoke a dialect of English most similar to that spoken in Northumberland, England today...."

 

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The Beatty surname all spellings are Scots, some are a sept of the MacBeth Clan. Information on the McBeth Clan can be found at: http://www.sayitontheweb.com/macbeth/variants.html It shows the Tartan, Arms, Badges go take a look.

 

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BP2000-L Archive

July 2003

 

Why do some of us spell the name Beatty (or Beattie) while others spell it Beaty?

 

 

Reprinted with Sheila Hale's permission... nlp

From: Chris Sheila Hale 

 

The name was not always spelled Beattie in Scotland.  I have extracted large quantities of Beattie et el data for the Borders area of Scotland and have complied it into a large database. From this I have been able to conclude some interesting things about the way the name evolved.

The Beattie name in the borders of  Scotland is derived from Baty (Son of Bartholomew). The name slowly evolved through multiple spellings of Batie, Beaty, Beatie, Beatty ect .  Many of the early headstones and church records show several different variations of the name within a single family. In the late 1700's many of the family's spelt the name Beaty or Beatty. (Though all variants appeared at the time).  Many families which left during this time period left taking the current spelling of the name with them.

By the mid 1850's or shortly  thereafter there seems to have been a "sanitation" of how names were spelt and EVERYONE started to use the surname BEATTIE (with the minor exception of a few BATY's and variants that have never but the 'e' in their name).  This occurred with other names not just Beattie, no idea why it happened.  

I did a search of the 1881 Census Index of Scotland.  EVERYONE in Scotland was using the surname of BEATTIE who was born in Scotland.  I did find a couple of families who spelt their name BEATTY but they had moved from Ireland within the last 10 or 20 years.  I had presumed these families had moved to Ireland when the name was still often Beatty and had later come back.

So in answer to your question. Ask yourself when they left the "old country".  The earlier they emigrated the more likely the name would have been Beaty or Beatty.
Some families took the name Beatie or Beattie in Scotland likely a 100 or so years before it seems to have become the "official" spelling so there could easily be early emigrants with the Beattie spelling.

This is my take on how the names have evolved.

Sheila I Hale
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BTW my second line is actually a BEATSON family from Fife. The Beatson's of Fife also evolved from the BATY's of  the Border areas of Scotland

 

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Hello Jim, 

I feel certain there never was an organized effort for spelling the Beatty/Beaty name one way or another. Using Crossle's notes, I have seen the same individuals spelled both ways in various documents, and occasionally in the same document. The seventeenth and eighteenth centuries were a time before spellings were standardized. There was no dictionary in general use, so people spelled words the way they felt like it. The spelling was more often dictated by the whim of a particular clerk than it was on the part of the person involved. In my own lineage 24, my 4th great grandfather James Beaty of Ballycanew, County Wexford (1745-1805), signed his name with one t, though his name appears sometimes with two ts. All of his sons preferred the two t spelling and made the modification during their father's lifetime. I don't know why they did it; perhaps they liked the way it looked. I've become accustomed to looking for the name under many different variations. The long "a" pronunciation has tended to confuse many clerks over the years (as it still does today). They want to write Batey for Beatty, and they just don't get the "ea" thing. Ronald Reagan's presidency did much to educate people that "ea" can sometimes be pronounced with a long a, but it still confuses some. 

John Beatty Lineage 24

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Reprinted with permission... nlp

 

As usual, some very interesting preceding messages on the spelling of our family name. 

 

It all is worth repeating occasionally to help new members in their research. I hope the lesson learned from the evidence of the many spelling variations is that researchers should check the many variations when they are searching a given source. 

We have very few lineages that don't have some variations noted over the generations. 

 

Back in the early days of BP2000 one of our researchers became irate when I suggested that she check variations. She told me in very direct words that her lineage was BEATTY and only BEATTY and that she wasn't going to waste her time on those others. 

 

I hope that our typical researcher today is a bit wiser. With many of our American colonial families who continually moved to the frontier of their day we occasionally have evidence of a generation or so of illiteracy. That combined with the tendency until the mid 1800s to spell things as they "were heard" resulted in many of the variations we have on record. 

 

A related research problem has emerged in the last few years. As we now have indexes for just about every available U.S. Census year we are running into the problem created by indexing errors. 

 

Many of the original census data pages are difficult to read because of the census recorder's difficult handwriting or the quality of the microfilm. I have been working with the Ancestry.com and the Genealogy.com indexes and have found several errors in the past couple of weeks. For example, Donna Van Zandt and I were looking for the 1870 data on a Lewis Beatty (Lineage 1), having the data for all the other census years on him. He is not listed in the Genealogy.com 1870 index under the normal variations (Baty, Baity, Batey, Beatie, Beattie, Beatty, Beaty, Beattey, Betty etc.). Donna found him the hard way by going to the county and township he lived in 1860 and searched the 1870 residents until she found him. When she sent me the data I wondered how Genealogy.com had missed him, so I pulled up the 1870 image which looked like it could have been interpreted as BENTLY. When I went back to the Genealogy.com index I then found him....listed as LEWIS BENTTZ.! A spelling variation I would never have thought to check!

 

 So....Researchers beware....like DAR records, family bibles, county (vanity) histories, etc., these new indexes are not without errors! 

 

Ray

 

 Raymond C. Beaty, Ph.D. 

Founder, The Beatty Project 2000 

NYC Lineage 1/3 and 34 

 

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If you are researching a Beatty surname then you really should join 

The Beatty 2000 Project

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/main.htm

 

The Beatty Project 2000 (BP-2000) was started in 1996 to gather information about the various Beatty families.  A lot of work has already been done to document Beatty lineages. There are over 400 different lineages listed there. There is only  one requirement, That when you share your Beatty lineage you don't share someone else's lineage and research. It is asked that you refer the person to the Beatty project or to the individual researching that particular lineage. All of us try to do some research to share for the project like Beatty extractions from the census or Documentation... 

 

Each of the over 400 Beatty lineages that we have in our master database have a number assigned. There are so many Beatty's with the same first names and with the vartions of spellings of the surname, it helps keep those of us using the information from getting them mixed up.  You can go to the website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/ and look at the lineage summaries (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/lineages.htm).

 

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The Beatty DNA Project

http://www.beattydna.org/

 

If you have spent any time researching your Beatty family history, you have probably reached a point where you cannot identify earlier ancestors.  Perhaps you have documented 3 generations, or 6, or 8.  But, at some point the Beatty trail grows cold.  You are not alone!  Every Beatty researcher (actually, every researcher of any family) has reached the same point at one time or another (called a 'brick wall').  And, even though there are relatively few Beattys in the population, there doesn't seem to be many connections among them or widespread documentation of their origins. DNA Can Help...

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I have Beatty on my Mother's side and Beattie in my Father's collateral lines to his Cupps. They are proving to be of the same Scots/English border heritage.

 

 

 

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