Notes for: John Bodine

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I have never seen any original sources listing the names of John Bodine and Mary Crocheron's children. As far as I can tell, the best list of these children would be John, Isaac, Jacob, Sarah, Catherine, Peter, and Abraham. However, one should realize that this is only an educated guess. Hopefully, more information will come to light on who John and Mary's children were, but it is not likely. These children were probably born on Staten Island, but there is no source for this information either.

Here is some information sent to me by Scott Thompson (iamsthomp2 at worldnet.att.net). It comes from page 490 of History of Hunterdon and Somerst Counties New Jersey, compiled by James P. Snell (Philadelphia: Everts & Peck, 1881). The information in Snell's book does seem to have several errors, but it is probably the earliest information on who some of the children of John and Mary Bodine were. He must have gotten this straight from some of those Bodines themselves. Here is the info:

The Bodine Family is an honored one in the history of France, but moderate as were the advices of Jean bodine, the wise counselor of Henry III, his relatives were afterwards compelled to flee, with other Huguenots, to Holland, whence they ultimately came to Staten Island, at least as early as 1701.*

From the mouth of the Raritan they ascended to its source. Among the settlers of this region there were at least five of this name, all of whom left a large number of descendants.

*The earlier history of the Bodine family has been traced by Rev. Dr. Charles Baird, of New Rochelle, N.Y., for his forthcoming work on the Huguenots of America.

John Bodine had a plantation, early in the last century, on the west side of the North Branch. Immediately north of that was the Ammerman tract, and immediately north of that the Du Mont tract. This John Bodine had a son Abraham, who married Mary Low, and had John, baptized April 15, 1748; Judick baptized March 31, 1745, married Samuel Willemsen; Mary, probably the Mary that married Thomas Cooper; Cathelyntje, baptized Sept. 3, 1749; Sarah baptized Aug. 10, 1755 ; Cornelius, baptized November, 1755, married Margaret Sutphen, of Six-Mile Run, born 1754, and had Abraham, Peter, John, Cornelius, Gilbert, Issac, Charles, and George, all deceased.

Isaac Bodine had eleven children,- eight by his first wife, Cataleyn, and three by his second wife, Jannetje. These children, with dates of baptism, were Jan, Nov. 19,1703; Jantien, April 30, 1707; Frederick April 26, 1709; Mareyken, April 25, 1711; Kataleyn, Aug. 8, 1713; Isaac, April 5, 1715; Abraham, July 31, 1717; Elizabeth, Oct. 31, 1719; Hester, Dec. 25, 1723; Isaac, Aug. 16, 1730; and Jannetje, Aug. 16, 1730.

Peter Bodine had two children by his first wife and one by his second, Margrita. Their names and dates of baptism were Jan, April 30, 1712; David, April 3,1717; Mareytje, Oct 15, 1738.

Jacob Bodine's wife was named Elizabeth. They had six children,-Viz,, Jan, St. Jantien, Jacob, Catherine, Cornelius, and Antje.

Abraham Bodine married Adriantje Janse, and had nine children, among whom were Catrina, baptized April 14, 1725, and married Lodewyk Haydenbrook; Peter baptized December, 1726 and twice married ( first, Mareytje; second, Widow Williamson}; John, baptized Dec. 5, 1730, married Femmetje Vorhees; Abraham and Judick. The last named was born March 17, 1735, and ultimately married John Thompson.

***End of info from Scott Thompson.

I believe the name of this child, John, may be hypothetical, but he probably did exist. According to Dutch naming customs, Jean and Maria's first son should have been named "John" if the grandfather was also named "Jean." As far as I've seen, the only time a "John" has been listed as one of Jean and Maria's children was in an article from the May or July 1989 Sebring Newsletter. No source for this name was given there. It was in an outline giving the names of Jean and Maria's children.

Someone has mentioned information about a John Bodine who was a brother of the Sarah Bodine who married John Van Meter. He was referred to as the John Bodine of Raritan Landing. I wonder if this is not referring to John's father. The information went on to say that John also had been a trader and was probably as associate of John Van Metre, Sr. in his Indian adventures." For more information, see the "Somerset County Historical Quarterly," 1916, p. 122 and Colonial Archives of NJ, 1st Series, XXX, p. 151.

I was wondering if this John Bodine might not be the real father of the Abraham Bodine who married Mary Low. I did have that Abraham's father listed as Isaac Bodine, this John's brother. However, Dutch naming patterns point more to Abraham's parents being named John and Mary. My best guess is that this John is the father of the Abraham Bodine who married Mary Low and that this John's wife had to be a woman named Mary. This is all highly speculative, but it makes sense. I will go with that for now.

In the book History of the West Branch Valley, p. 522, it says that Abraham Bodine was the son of of a John Bodine who in 1727 was living on his plantation west of the North Branch of the Raritan, known as No. 67 in the "Elizabeth Town Bill in Chancery." I believe this is correct. The big question is this: Who was that John Bodine? I think it was this John Bodine, the son of John Bodine and Maria Crocheron.

Below is a picture of many of the lot numbers mentioned in the Elizabeth Town Bill of Chancery. I believe I could see where No. 67 was, but I'm not sure. Whatever the case, it is somewhere around there since it is "west of the North Branch of the Raritan." This image came from somewhere on the Internet, but I have forgotten now where that was.

Elizabeth Town Bill of Chancery Lots

In his will, Abraham (the probable son of this John) mentions his "Dutch Bible." This could be important. It might show that this Bodine line was much more Dutch than they were, for example, French.

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Source: Dutch-Colonies-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [D-Col] Page 3 of the 1706 to 1709 Staten Island Census records

Here is page 3 and I have tried to make some order to this page. Now I have
mentioned serveral Wills that I have posted earlier and if someone needs them
let me know. A lot of these families on this page connect in one way or
another. Some of the single men and women may have been working for the
different families at the time. As I don't reconized a lot of the single
names. Now remember these are mainly some of my thoughts and if you don't
want to read them then don't, but some times it helps to have something to
prove right or wrong.
Good luck
Wayne.

Last Name First Age Page # Comment
Stuart Alexander35 3 1 Man
Stuart Catherine 3 1 Woman
Alexander Stewart was listed on the St. Andrew's Protestant Episcopal Church
Charter usually know as "Queen Anne's Charter," dated 12 June 1713.

Marlett Joseph 24 3 2 Man
Brittin Joseph 40 3 3 Man
Brittin Elizabeth 3 3 Woman

This was the Joseph Brittain that was baptized 14 July 1678 when he was 9
years old to William Brittain and his wife Maria ? (David Voorhees Flatbush
records, page 387). It looks like his wife was Elizabeth and they had a son,
James baptized 23 Apr 1707 St Andrew RDC, Staten Island. So from this lack of
a child listed we can say the they were counted in the census prior to April
1707. Now the wit to the baptism of James was James Hanszen and wife. Now I
wonder if Jospeh's wife wasn't Elizabeth Hanszen. And the family listed on
page 1 of this census listed below, wasn't the family of Elizabeth? This is
just based on the baptism records of 1707 and no other proof.

Last Name First Age Page # Comment
hans Elizabeth 1 4 Girl
hans Sarah 1 5 Girl
hance Catharine 1 7 Girl
hance Anna 1 8 Girl
hance mary 1 11 Woman
hanse mary 1 12 Woman (these 2
Marys could be the same person, or maybe an older daughter, Wayne)

hance John 1 13 Boy
hance James 45 1 14 Man

Pullion Sarah 32 Woman
Pullion John 26 3 4 Man
This could be John Poillon, son of Jacques Poillon and Adrianna Crocheron,
who married Sarah Lake on 19 Sep. 1704 (NA DRC).

Peryne Anne 3 4 Woman
Peryne Peter 27 3 5 Man
This could be Peter Perine and his wife Anne Holmes who I have married 16
Oct. 1704 (daughter of Samuel Holmes and Alice Stillwell). I have no records
to support this marriage date. It was from the WFT records.

Lawrence Sarah 3 5 Woman
Lawrence John 19 3 6 Man
John and Sarah could be the children of #56 on this page, Hanss Lawrence.

Mitchil Mary 3 6 Woman
Mitchell John 18 3 7 Man
Mitchil Garreky 3 7 Woman
Mitchill James 35 3 11 Man
These Mitchells could be the children of #55 Richard Mitchell on this page.

Kirktone John 30 3 8 Man
Brown Jean 3 9 Woman
Brown John 39 3 13 Man
Waltin Martha 3 8 Woman
Waltin Thomas 34 3 12 Man
Waltin Rebecca 3 17 Woman
This could be Thomas Walton and his wife Martha Stillwell (daughter of
Richard Stillwell and Mary Cooke). I believe we have talked about Thomas as
being the brother of William Walton who married Maria Sandfort of New York,
but not certain of that. Rebecca could be a sister of Thomas.

Van Clief Hanis 26 3 9 Man
Van Clief Ram 27 3 10 Man
Rem and Hanis (John) Van Cleef are most likely the children of Jan Cornelis
Van Cleef and Engeltje Laurens. Their brother Isaacbrant was listed as #39 on
this page. (see my comments on him.)

Comons Esther 3 10 Woman
Brittin Mary 3 11 Woman
Derno (Derwo) Catherine 3 12 Woman
Stilwell Rebecka 3 13 Woman
Stilwell Mary 3 14 Woman
The Stillwells are all mixed up on this page and it is hard to figure them
out. Now Jeremiah Stillwell, who was listed on this page as #20, was married
to a Rebecca (Ashton?). and also John Stillwell, who was listed on this page
as #37 and was married also to a Rebecca (Throckmorton). There were lots of
Mary Stillwells and also wives that were named Mary.

Comons William 34 3 14 Man
Comon George 22 3 15 Man
Fountine Hannah 3 15 Woman
Hannah Fonteyn may be the wife of #36, Vincent Fonteyn on this page. He was
married to a Anne Martense. Vincent Fonteyn wrote his Will on 4 Jan. 1732 and
it has been posted on this site prior.

Colerich Peter 19 3 16 Man
Lackerman Catherine 3 16 Woman
Adriance Gazen 25 3 17 Man
This is Gozen Adriaense Ryerson, who was married to Femmetje Vanderbilt,
daughter of Aris J. Vanderbilt and Hildegonde Remsen. Now Femmetje
Vanderbilt's sisters, Annetje, who married Isaac Simonson (#40 on this page)
and Jannetje Vanderbilt, who was married to Isaacbrandt Van Cleef (#39 on
this page). Now I don't know why none of their wives were not listed on this
census. My only thoughts on that would be that they were not married at this
time, but were married shortly after the census. There are no Vanderbilts
listed on this census at all, so they may have been living someplace else.

Vantyll Sarah 3 18 Woman
Brittin Nathll 19 3 18 Man
Brittin Frances 3 19 Woman
This could be Nathaniel Brittain and Frances the children of Nathaniel
Brittain and Mary (Chamberlain?)

Stilwell Jeremiah 25 3 20 Man
Stilwell Martha 3 20 Woman
Stilwell Gersham 23 3 21 Man
Stilwell Rachel 3 21 Woman
Martha is most likely the widow of Thomas who died in 1705. Rachel could be
her daughter, who later married William Brittain. I am not sure on Jeremiah
and Gersham. They could be the sons of Thomas Stillwell's brother, Jeremiah
Stillwell, but have no proof and that may be going to far to say that.

Johnston Anne 3 22 Woman
Brittin William 21 3 22 Man
Okay now this may be the William Brittain that married Rachel Stillwell who
was #21 above.

Derna Jacob 30 3 23 Man
Billopp Mary 3 23 Woman
Billopp Hanna 3 24 Woman
These two Billopp may go with Joseph Billopp that was listed on page 5 of
this census, who was listed as age 63 and was #36 on that page.

Courtess Isaac 20 3 24 Man
Pharmer Nansie 3 25 Woman
Van Tyll Isaac 25 3 25 Man
Isaac Van Tuyl was later married to Sarah Lackerman, who was the daughter of
#52, Abraham Lackerman. Isaac wrote his will on 24 Dec. 1724, which was
posted before. Sarah Lackerman was a sister to Isaac and Abraham Lackerman
listed below (#26 & 27

Swam Jane 3 26 Woman
Lackerman Isaac 21 3 26 Man
Lackerman Abraham 23 3 27 Man
Yorta Mary 3 27 Woman
Scoutt Arria 30 3 28 Man
Fountine Vincent 36 3 29 Man Mention above.
dusway Susana 3 28 Woman
dusway Susana 3 29 Woman
dusway Elizabeth 3 30 Woman
Brittin Nickolas 27 3 30 Man
Brittin Benjamin 29 3 31 Man
This may be the Nicholas Brittain who was married to Frances Stillwell
daughter of Thomas Stillwell (who died about 1705) and Martha Billou. It
seems like this group of Brittain and Stillwells go together. Nicholas and
Benjamin baptisms were listed in the Flatbush Church Records by David
Voorhees. (Benjamin was on page 387 and listed as age 7 when he was baptized
in 1678. Daniel was listed on page 401 and baptized 17 Oct. 1680.)

Keer Henry 28 3 32 Man
Johnston Isaac 32 3 33 Man
Billew Isaac 48 3 34 Man
Billew James 22 3 35 Man
Billew John 18 3 36 Man
Stilwell John 43 3 37 Man
Brittin Nathll 42 3 38 Man
Van Clief Isaac Bra28 3 39 Man
(van Cleaf Hilithe 6 39 Girl
van Cleaf John 6 40 Boy
van Cleaf Angelthe 6 40 Girl
van Cleaf Anne 6 41 Girl
van Cleaf Catharine 6 42 Girl)
Simessone Isaac 29 3 40 Man
"This is Isaac Simonson, who was married to Annetje Vanderbilt. He was living
next to his future brother-in-law, Isaacbrant Van Cleef, who was married to
Jannetje Vanderbilt, Annetje's sister. Now I don't know why Annetje
Vanderbilt and her sister were not listed. I do believe that they were
married by that time. Isaacbrant's two brothers, Hans (John) and Rem were
numbers 9 and 10 on this page. Now I have the older children of Isaacbrant
and Jannetje as John and Ann and on page six there was a John and Anne listed
with several other children. I will admit these census are quite a challenge"

Mitchill Richard 32 3 41 Man
Goulden John 26 3 42 Man
Whittman Nathun 18 3 43 Man
Du Shane Valentine27 3 44 Man
Jacobs Charles 24 3 45 Man
Green George 35 3 46 Man
Vanhoe John 20 3 47 Man
Vanhoe Francis 18 3 48 Man
Pullion James 25 3 49 Man
Oasburne Samuel 27 3 50 Man
Bedyne John 26 3 51 Man
Lackerman Abraham 45 3 52 Man
Tallon John 20 3 53 Man
Poillion Sr James 60 3 54 Man
Mitchill Richard 68 3 55 Man
Lawrence Hanss 63 3 56 Man
Noftie (?) Jacob 65 3 57 Man
Burgie John 42 3 58 Man
Guyon James 24 3 59 Man
Ann emailed me and brought to my attention this group of men above. The John
Bedyne (Bodine), Abraham Lackerman, James Poillon Sr., James Poilon, Jr.,
Richard Mitchell, Hans Lawrence and have a connection in that they were
connected to the the Will of John Bodine of 11 Feb. 1695. The inventory was
taken on that date. Now Rihcard Mitchell, hans Louvens (Lawrence) and Abraham
Loconers (Lackerman) sworn to on that date that the inventory was correct.

Ann goes on to explain the connections

"There was a John Bodine that died in 1694/5 when Paulus Richards was
appointed to administer his estate. The inventory of this estate was sworn
to by Richard Michell, Hans Louvens and Abraham Laconers in February of 1695.
The John Bedyne here I would think might be his grandson?
My notes is that this John Bodine was the son of John Bodine and Maria
Crocheron, who were married 11 Jan. 1680 at Midwoud (David Voorhees Flatbush
Records). And Jacque Poillon was married to Adrianna Crocheron. Later, by
1720, he marries (3rd) a Judith Bodine, daughter of John Bodine. I feel she
belongs to the John Bodine. (Now Jacque Poillon's two sons James and John are
listed above James as #49 and John and his wife Sarah Lake as #2 & 4. And you
will also find Jacques Poillon's daughter Katharine's, husband Samuel Osborn
listed as #50. (now I don't know why Katharine Poillon wasn't listed),
Abraham Lackerman was married to Catherine Crocheron (and later another wife)
and also had children. Yet the census also lists him as a (cuts off here).

From Ronny Bodine:

In the book History of the West Branch Valley, p. 522, it says that Abraham Bodine was the son of of a John Bodine who in 1727 was living on his plantation west of the North Branch of the Raritan, known as No. 67 in the "Elizabeth Town Bill in Chancery." I believe this is correct. The big question is this: Who was that John Bodine? I think it was this John Bodine, the son of John Bodine and Maria Crocheron.

No one else names this John as a son of John and Maria except in Snell and his copyists. But if he were living in 1727 on the family plantation would he not better be identical with Jan (=John), son of Isaac Bodine who was bapt. 19 Oct 1703 and thus was 24 at this time and a perfect candidate?