Van Bibber Pioneers Electronic Newsletter
Volume 3, Number 5 · March 1999
Greetings:
The newsletter is not as large as usual and I am late again with this edition. I suppose we are running out of material. I just was very busy with jobs around the new house and with school.
I hope the next issue will be a little larger and I will have the time to put it together and mail it out to you.
We now have two hundred and forty-eight subscribers.
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CONTENTS
New Members, Address Changes
Van Bibber Obituaries
Van Bibber Notebook
Discussion List Format
Deputy Sheriff Cyrus Van Bibber
Success Story
Queries
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NEW MEMBERS
Pam Parker (dreamcatcher@ladysmith.net)
Mike Triggs (MikeT@WCB.NT.CA)
Betty Walker (chibet@hawk.igs.net)
CHANGE OF ADDRESS
Shirley Anderson (geneand@arn.net)
Michael O. Knue (knorthwest@email.msn.com)
Phillip Johnson (phillipjohnson@mail.usa.com)
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VAN BIBBER OBITUARIES
By Sandra Quinn (DSABQUINN@worldnet.att.net)
Athens Messenger Sept. 5, 1946
C. VanBibber Dies in Athens
Clem R. VanBibber, 31, died early this morning in an Athens hospital after a long illness. He was a resident of Laurel Run. (This was near Haydenville, Ohio) He is survived by his father and mother Mr. and Mrs. Jesse VanBibber of Laurel Run; brothers James, Harold , Charles, all of Haydenville; Jesse Jr. at home and Ralph of the Army stationed in Alabama; a sister, Mrs. Velma Appleman, Logan; a grandmother, Mrs. Elizabeth Jane Burt of Barberton.
Services will be conducted at the Church of God, Laurel Run, Saturday at 10 am with burial in the Clark Chapel Cemetery near Athens. Friends may call at the family
residence in Laurel Run.
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Athens Messenger Dec. 27, 1945
Anna Van Bibber
Van Bibber Rites to be Saturday
Nelsonville- Miss Anna Sams VanBibber, age 48, died Wednesday morning at Athens. She is survived by her parents Mr. and Mrs. Jesse VanBibber of Laurel Run; Six
brothers, Clem, of Athens, Harrold and James VanBibber, Haydenville; Jessse of Laurel Run; Ralph of Nelsonville; Charles in the US Army stationed in Germany and one sister,
Mrs. Zelma Appleman, Logan RFD and her grandparents Mrs. Jane Burt, Laurelville and Mrs. Cora Breyfogie of New York.
The body was brought to the Stout Funeral Home where friends may call and where funeral services will be held, conducted by Rev. C. B. Tuttle Saturday morning at 10:30 o'clock and burial will be made at Clark's Chapel.
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Athens Messenger 8-15-1948
Jane Burt dies Saturday
Mrs. Jane Burt, 74, died Saturday afternoon at the home of her daughter Mrs. Margaret Chevalier, of 38 Walker Street.
A resident of Athens for over 40 years, Mrs. Burt was preceded in death by her husband William Burt who died 34 years ago. Surviving in addition to Mrs. Chevalier are
four sons; Fred Burt, Nelsonville; Clem Burt, Lancaster; Jess VanBibber, Laurel Run; Jim VanBibber, Logan, and one brother Jim Brown of Nelsonville.
Services will be conducted by the Rev. E. C. Kenney, Monday 10:30 am from
the Jagers Funeral home with burial in the Clark's Chapel Cemetery. Friends may call at the Chevalier home Sunday afternoon and evening and at the funeral home until time
for the services.
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Aug. 19, 1948
Nancy Burt
Services conducted for Mrs. Burt, 94
Chauncey - Funeral services for Mrs. Nancy Jane Burt, 94 who died at the home of her daughter Mrs. Margaret Chevalier, Athens, were held Aug. 16 with the Rev. E. C. Kenney officiating. A trio from Chauncey provided the music.
Burial was at Clark's Chapel Cemetery. Mrs. Burt is survived by the daughter and four sons. She also leaves a number of grandchildren and great grandchildren.
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Athens Messenger Dec. 7, 1947
Rosa Carpenter Former Athens Woman dies
Mrs. Rosa Carpenter, Barberton, former resident of Athens died Friday evening following surgery in an Akron hospital, according to word received here by her sister Mrs. Margaret Chevalier, 38 Walker street. Besides her sister, Mrs. Carpenter is survived by her husband, James; two sons, Earl and Charles, both of Barberton; a daughter, Mrs. Francis Crow, Dayton; her mother, Mrs. Jane Burt, Athens; two brothers, Fred Burt, Nelsonville, and Clem Burt, Lancaster; and two half brothers, Jesse VanBibber, Laurel Run; and James VanBibber of Logan.
Burial will be made at Clarks Chapel Cemetery Monday or Tuesday at a time to be announced.
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Athens county Marriage records
Alice F. Van Bibber married Clintno Walder Nov. 29, 1907, Book 15 page 209
Sandra Quinn~volunteer lookup person for Athens County on Ohio Gen Web, Member of First Families of Athens County, Ohio, Member of Athens County Genealogical Society
Sandra Quinn
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VAN BIBBER NOTEBOOK
By David J Brown (dbrown711@juno.com)
This is an attempt at transcribing a small pocket notebook sent to me some years ago by Mary Duffe of the Oklahoma Genealogical Society. A second copy was sent to me by Hazel Van Bebber, now deceased, who was a very energetic Van Bibber researcher.
While the outside envelope had this message, typewritten, but unsigned, I believe the booklet was written by Davis (Noah Davis) Van Bibber, youngest bother of Matthias.
Davis is the only one of his brothers, (six) who did not serve in the Civil War, due to his young age, yet he was the only one wounded. When bushwhackers showed up they shot up the homestead, shooting a pitcher out of Davis' mother's hand and wounding Davis in the forehead.
Please do not hang your hat on any of the details. But the name "Betsy Gardner" is the only connection to the Gardner name that has been a problem.
"Written by Matthais (sic) Van Bibber who lived in Edmond, Okla. He had no children. He was related to Daniel Boone. A Van Bibber girl married Nathan Boone."
(The writing is unique. I have attempted to correct by writing within ( ), which may not be correct.
"Mr. J. J. Tanner (Tannen?)
Dear Sir,
in regard to the Van Bibber famley(family) my great grandfather Van Bibber came from Holland tenmed (?) Duch (Dutch?) Plymouth Colony settle near Boston Captain Matthias Van Bibber or (for?) short Tice was my grandfather. He was the hero of the Van Bibber
Rock at the falls of Kanawha.
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My grandunkles names Capt. John Van Bibber aided by his faithful negro servant Dave killed to (two) or three Indians in attacked near the Point (Point Pleasant) and his Brother Joseph Van Bibber taken Prisoner to Detroit dident (didn't) git back for to (two) years
Capt James Van Bibber, Peter Van Bibber Isaac Van Bibber the famus (Famous) Blacksmith
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who mad(e) big butcher knives to scalo Indians and tom(a)ocks and stell (steel) traps he made for Daniel Boon(e) whitch he named it ol(d) Isaak because it was the best. Jacob Van Bibber who was taking prisoner atan tak (?) of the indians with my gran(d)father Capt Matthias had hi eyebrow shot off Jacob was atking (taken) to the oshage (Osage) indian tribe to (two) years be fore (before) he returne(d)
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Jesse Van Bibber the faimost (famous?) hunter and indian tracker who loved to eat a tarifron (terrapin?) like and (an) indian with its hea cut off and Rasted (roasted) like a potatoe he lived in maron (Marion?) county in this state near where the greate battl(e) of the point pleasant (Point Pleasant) was fot (fought) with the indians him and his Brother
fiting (fighting) side by side from moring (morning) til nigt (night) going up crooked creek and and (?) going the battle of the Day
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Capt David C. R. Van Bibber my father was a son of Capt Matthias Van Bibber or Tise (Tice) for short My father Capt David C. R. Van Bibber was born (in) 1799 on the Camp (?) fork of peter's creek which is now Nicholas County West Va The camp fork took its namw from Capt Matthias Van Bibber who explored the wile (wild?) of this country in an early day and had his camp under a big rock or clift (cliff) he
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went to Holland on account of their faith and Religion and her name was Margaret Robi(n)son before she marid (married) his father and how she had to live in fourts (forts) and help fiite (fight) the indians and his Ant (Aunt) Rhode Van Bibber run(n)ing theBullits as fast as thay shot them making to hot for the read shinds (redskins) and how she lade (laid) ___ little baby his sister on
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the banks of the great canawhay (Kanawha River) When the indians had him surroun(d)ed he had to Jump into the river and I(?) met him with a cannwo (canoe) swimming with one hand and the gun in the other Capt David C R Van Bibber my father lived near the site wher(e) he was born till he was in his 90 year he was a farmmer o(w)ning 2000 acre of land in one boddy (body) joining the homr stead
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he was a level headed Dymocrat my mother was Jane Williams by faith and work she was a chip of the old block a hol(d)ing to the missionary Baptist that was esstablished by the great Rodger Williams the founder of the missionary Baptist S(C)hurch of the united states
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And what my father told me. I heard him say that four Brothers com(e) from holland th(ey) were (f)arm (h)ands or by Duch (Dutch) My great grandfather was Peter my great grandmother was magor Bounds. She was born in Wales My great grandparents had eighteen children ten boys and eight girls Great great gran(d)mother died at Nathan Boon(e)s aged one hundred and eleven years old
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the fore (four) brother(s) whitch names was Abraham Isaac Peter John settle near Boston but like pigdons (pigeons?) to the mast they went to North carolina to greenbriar river the fore (four) Brothers b(u)ilt them a fourt (fort) to proteck (protect) them from the indians my gran(d)father Matthias Van Bibber wa born in that fort after that these fore (four) Brothers
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Abrham Isace Peter and John sould (sold) their posesions went to point pleasant and they got the Indian again two of the brothers was killed by the indians Isace and Abrham the old darkey Dave hel(d) the fort Dave had furrows cut through the wool on his head never give up he saved the fort after that the indians took two sisters of my
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Gran(d)fathers and one boy they scalped one girl she went home told howthe indians had tahing the three children the scalped one died they were making sugar when this happen(ed) kept them untill peace was made gran(d)father then hunted them upin kanid (Canada) he paid thirty dollars for them and one girl by the name
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of Betsy gardner he brought home with them"
THE END
You can bet that I didn't try to use the Spell Checker
David J Brown
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DISCUSSION LIST FORMAT
By Louise Kuldas (mimik@n-link.com)
(From another e-mail discussion list.)
WHAT: Try to limit your query to one or two specific events or bits of information. Post another one or more later with additional questions rather than load all your questions into one. In this way each of your questions will stand out and get attention.
WHEN: Dates are important, if you don't know the day, month and year try to put in a period (1790s, late 1800s , etc.)
WHERE: Mention the location in the body of the query. Include a more specific location if you can.
WHY: Why are you searching for this/these individual(s)? Describe your connection to him/her.
HOW: How your query appears will often get subscriber's attention. Check spelling, grammar and format. Apply the KISS system: Keep It Simple Simple.
SUBJECT FIELD: To get the most from your query, place the SURNAME,
LOCATION, YEAR in the subject field. Remember ! ! ! ! Many subscribers
belong to multiple list servers; therefore, many go through their mail looking at subject fields only.
Unfortunately, messages with "My Family", "My Line", "My Grandfather", "My JONES", etc., as subjects are deleted without ever being opened.
REPETITION: Once you have an acceptable looking query, save it and update it as necessary. Use it again about once a quarter to touch base with new members. Also, you may use it on web sites that accepts queries.
REMEMBER: Your goal is to get information. A list server (discussion group) such as this is an excellent means for helping you reach it. Make the query work!
By following these recommendations, your query stands a better chance of being read and you may make that great contact that you need.
Louise J Kuldas
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DEPUTY SHERIFF CYRUS VAN BIBBER
By Bob McFarland (Non-subscriber) (Bobthmac@aol.com)
My gggrandfather was ANDREW B. McFARLAND born 1Dec.1825 he married HANNA DAVISON 28 May 1851 in Lawrence Co.... Ohio they had 3 children (1)MARY E. McFARLAND Died 12 April 1854. (2) JOHN ANDREW McFARLAND born 24 Dec. 1852 and died 7 Oct 1922. (3) unk.
Andrew was born in Kentucky but lived in Portsmouth during there 1850 census
age 26. He got a job with CLINTON FURNACE in KY. in about 1852. On 18 August
while riding his horse away from a small store he was shot in the back with a rifle from a STEPHAN SHORT. SHORT was chased down an captured by Sheriff VAN BIBBER the next day in Ohio.
Thought somebody might enjoy this story I found it in the Portsmouth Daily
Tribune Thursday, August 24,1854. Bob McFarland
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CYRUS was his first name. He was a Deputy Sheriff in the 1850s.
Bob McFarland
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SUCCESS STORY
By Beverly Gillihan (Bgillihan@aol.com)
Since I became a subscriber to the Van Bibber newsletter I have made several family connections and discoveries.
My original motive for subscribing was to locate information about William Albert Van Bibber, his wife Ann Mary (Sutton) Van Bibber and the five children they abandoned to the Warrick County Orphan's Home.
Thanks to Gary Hawpe and Virginia Aldrich (our newest Cousin) I have had
amazing results. Virginia discovered a Granddaughter of William and Ann Mary
that we didn't even know existed and tracked her from birth to marriage at thirteen to death at twenty one years of age.
We have traced all five of the children but there is still a lot of history concerning these people we don't know.
Raymond Van Bibber, the youngest child was born in 1888, was in the Navy in
the 1920's, and was in Evansville Indiana in 1942. After that, no information on this child.
I am still trying to trace Ann Mary and William who basically disappeared after their divorce in 1993. We have information that Ann Mary re-married, possibly to a, McGowen-McGowan (?) and had at least two more children, Edward and Leslie?
I would love to make contact with descendants of these people. If any of these names sound familiar and if you have information to share, please contact me at: BGillihan@aol.com or contact the Editor of the Van Bibber newsletter.
William Albert Van Bibber s/o Jacob Van Bibber & Unknown. Ann Mary Sutton-Van Bibber d/o Michael J. Sutton and Martha J.O. Van Bibber, (were first cousins.)
Thanks.
Beverly Gillihan
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QUERIES
From Mike Triggs (MikeT@WCB.NT.CA)
My primary interest is trying to back track from 1812 the descendants of a Triggs who married into the Van Bibber clan. You have in your marriages list a John Van Beber marrying a Patty (Polly ) Trigs 25 Jan 1812, Scioto Co. I have seen this as John Van Bibon marrying Polly Triggs 23 Jan 1812. I believe that Polly Triggs is Mary Triggs daughter of William Triggs who died in 1807 in Scioto Co.
On November 24, 1807, Sally Triggs chose Thomas Triggs as guardian and the Court appointed him as guardian for "Susannah Trigs, Betsy Triggs, Jacob Trigs, William Triggs, Ester T (edge of page removed), Clarenda (?) Triggs & John Triggs Sons and daughters of William Triggs deceased.
On March 21, 1808, Mary Triggs, daughter of William Triggs deceased chose Andrew Wolf as her guardian. Wolf and Kimber Barton were bonded to the Court.
I have not been able to find any further reference to this Polly (Mary) Triggs and John Van Bibon after the record of there marriage. I was hoping that one of the Van Bibber researchers would have information on them.
I am descended from William Triggs Jr., referred to in the 1807 document. He lived the remainder of his life (dying in 1866) not to far from you in Vernon Township.
Any information or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike Triggs
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From Beverly Schubert (Non-subscriber) (bkelsey@worldaccessnet.com)
My interest in the Van Bibber family is because I have seen their name as being on the same wagon train as some of my family. I am interested in any stories about their wagon train experiences (1846 or 1852).
Would your Van Bibber Pioneers newsletter have anything like that?
Beverly Schubert
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From Beverly Gillihan (Bgillihan@aol.com)
I have been pouring over past issues of the newsletter.....waiting for a new one, hint, hint......and I have a question. Vol. 2 #1 RE: George L. Van Bibber states: Jacob Isaac had a son, Isaac (I'm with you so far) then, it says, Isaac had a son, named Washington who had a son, named George who married Hannah C. I don't have Washington anywhere (which doesn't surprise me as I had no Van Bibbers until I met you and Gary), just ours of course.
Question # 2: Also same page as article above (20) Who is Cyrus Van Bibber? I don't have him either and have no idea where he fits in with Jesse B. Boone and his descendants.
Thanks in advance, I know you'll have the answers.
I'm happy to say I now have over 2000 names in my data base which I owe to the Van Bibber Newsletter and a zillion e-mails from Gary, not bad when you consider I started with a dozen and was clueless about where to begin.
Thanks again, from your new biggest fan!!!!!!
Beverly Gillihan
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From Steven L. Turner (turner@community.net)
Attention cousins:
I have learned from an unofficial source that LEVICY LOUISE VANBEBBER, a daughter of PETER VANBEBBER SR. and wife, ELLINOR VANBIBBER (who were
also first cousins to one another), was married twice. As I understand it, Levicy's first husband was JOHN LIFORD; and that after John Liford's untimely death, married a second time in 1842 to a JAMES WALLER of Claiborne County, Tennessee. As I understand it, in the 1880 Census of Claiborne County, Levicy lived with her daughter....Nancy (Liford) Hatfield.
Can anyone shed some additional light on the above? In addition, did Levicy's daughter Nancy marry into the infamous family, the Hatfield's who did battle with the McCoy's?
Steven L. Turner
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From Dick Walker (chloride@presys.com)
A Request for information on "Goodwife" Bibber.
Perhaps a reader can shed some light on a question a friend and I have.
My friend's ancestor was accused and hung as a "Witch" during the Salem Witch Trials in 1692. One of her accusers was a "Goodwife" or "Goody" Bibber. The Goodwife or Goody were titles and not names of course. In our readings of the events of the trials, there is never a mention of "Goodwife" Bibber's first name or a name for her husband.
"Goodwife" Bibber was also an accuser of several others who were tortured and hung as witches.
Is it possible that "Goodwife" Bibber is a member of our Van Bibber family? My friend delights in telling me that my ancestor was responsible in having her ancestor hung as a witch. It would be nice to have some information.
Thanks,
Dick Walker
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From Roxie Wheeler (ROXI188441@aol.com)
Hi,
I write to ask about Sarah VanBibber who married to Joshua Wheeler in 1894, Vanderburgh, Illinois. This is not my line but since I am a Wheeler it made me wonder. I do have Wheelers everywhere it seems.
Would anybody have any dates or children for the couple listed above? I would sure love to know.
I descend from Mary Malinda VanBebber and Powell Hamilton Sharp.
Thanks for any information.
Sincerely,
Roxie Wheeler
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From David T. Chafin (dtc-jlc@ix.netcom.com)
Seeking any info on Priscilla Van Bibber, born ca. 1812 in KY or VA; married Elijah Johnson 6 July 1832 in Lawrence Co., KY.
David T. Chafin
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From Barbara Drew (lbdrew@silcon.com)
Query:
Who are Hannah Hoover's Parents?
My ancestors, James Vanbebber and Hannah Hoover lived in Russell County Virginia before coming to Claiborne Co., TN ca 1800. I have traced my Vanbebber heritage but for years have been stymied over Hannah
Hoover can be spelled Huber and several immigrants arrived in 1774 at Philadelphia. Today there are many Hubers in Germany and Switzerland. Hannah's marriage to James must have been in VA as their first child was Isaac Hoover VB born ca 1784 in VA.
Hannah is mentioned in a deed ca. 1815 along with her siblings in Campbell Co., TN. By the 1850 census, Hannah is a widow and living in Platte Co., MO with her daughter, Elizabeth, (married to Anderson Rogers. I do not find her after that. Can anyone help?
I would be glad to research even a small tidbit.
Thank you.
Barbara Drew
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From Tracy Converse (Non-subscriber) (converse@efortress.com)
I'm also working on an Uptegrove line. I'm sure I don't have much to add to your information but I'm hoping you will find something familiar in the outline below.
Thank you!
Tracey Converse
Ancestors of Mary Jane Uptegrove
Generation No. 1
1. Mary Jane Uptegrove, born 1822 in Nelson County, Kentucky1; died 26 August 1887 in LaRue County, Kentucky. She was the daughter of
2. John William "Bill" Uptegrove and 3. Elizabeth "Betsy" Loury or Lovill. She married (1) George W. Elliott 22 December 1838 in Hardin County, Kentucky2. She married (2) Silas Smith 02 December 1856 in Hodgensville, LaRue County, Kentucky. She married (3) Benjamin Austin Golliher 03 October 1873 in LaRue County, Kentucky.
Children of Mary Uptegrove and George Elliott are:
i. William Noble Elliott, born 07 January 1844 in Hodgensville, LaRue County, Kentucky; died 14 August 1932 in Wynner Township, Washington County, Arkansas; married Ellen Elizabeth Puyer 27 September 1862 in LaRue County, Kentucky.
ii. Whitefield E. Elliott, born 05 January 1847 in LaRue County, Kentucky3; died 13 August 1931 in LaRue County, Kentucky4; married (1) Sarah E. Golliher; married (2) Sarah Jane Logsdon 22 February 1882 in LaRue County, Kentucky5.
iii. Louisa Ellen Elliott, born 05 May 1848 in LaRue County, Kentucky6; died 28 September 1929 in Daviess County, Kentucky7; married Robert Lloyd Norris 10 September 1866 in LaRue County, Kentucky8.
iv. Nancy Ann Elliott, born February 1850; married Joseph Skaggs in LaRue County, Kentucky9.
v. Dudley B. Elliott, born 1854 in LaRue County, Kentucky10; died Abt 1860 in LaRue County, Kentucky11.
Child of Mary Uptegrove and Silas Smith is:
i. Samuel Smith, born 1858.
Generation No. 2
2. John William "Bill" Uptegrove, born 1790-1800 in Surry County, North Carolina12; died 1832-1836 in Nelson or LaRue County, Kentucky13. He married 3. Elizabeth "Betsy" Loury or Lovill 03 June 1807 in Surry County, North Carolina14.
3. Elizabeth "Betsy" Loury or Lovill, born 1797 in North Carolina15; died 1873 in LaRue County, Kentucky16.
Notes
From Ancestry's database NC Marriages to 1825
Lovill, Mary married Uptegrove, William on 03 Jun 1807 in Surry County,
North Carolina
Lovill, Rebekah married Uptegrove, Isaac on 11 May 1819 in Surry County, North Carolina
Rich, John married Uptegrove, Nancey on 12 Feb 1808 in Rowan County, North
Carolina
Houser, Jacob married Uptegrove, Jane on 29 Mar 1811 in Rowan County, North
Carolina
Notes
Her father maybe Lovell Edward 2 2 3 0 4
As listed on the 1790 Surry County, NC census.
Children of John Uptegrove and Elizabeth Lovill are:
i. Rosiana Uptegrove, died 01 October 1856 in LaRue County, Kentucky17; married Silas Smith.
1 ii. Mary Jane Uptegrove, born 1822 in Nelson County, Kentucky; died 26 August 1887 in LaRue County, Kentucky; married (1) George W. Elliott 22 December 1838 in Hardin County, Kentucky; married (2) Silas Smith 02 December 1856 in Hodgensville, LaRue County, Kentucky; married (3) Benjamin Austin Golliher 03 October 1873 in LaRue County, Kentucky.
iii. William Uptegrove.
iv. James Benton Uptegrove.
v. George Uptegrove.
vi. Mahala "Nannie" Uptegrove.
vii. Joseph Uptegrove.
viii. ? Uptegrove.
Tracy Converse
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