Van Bibber Pioneers Electronic Newsletter
Volume 2, Number 5   ·   March 1998

Greetings:

The last month was a very bad month for the Van Bibber Pioneers newsletter. My computer went down with software problems and I did not get the March newsletter out on time.. I lost all my e-mail and addresses and had to reconstruct the address book. Nevertheless, that is completed and the March issue is ready. I hope to get back on the normal schedule very soon.

Gary R. Hawpe has been sending out a new feature of the e-mail discussion list called "This day in VanBibber history". I am including one of the e-mails so everyone can see an example. I thought about including all of them in the newsletter, but that would probably make the newsletter ten or more pages longer and I don't want to do that. I encourage all of the newsletter subscribers to subscribe to the e-mail discussion list in order to view this outstanding feature of the Van Bibber Pioneers organization.

You may subscribe to the newsletter by sending an e-mail with the single word "subscribe", without the quotation marks, to this address (Van_Bibber-L-request@rootsweb.com). Do not include anything else but the word "subscribe" in the body of the e-mail and do not include anything in the subject line.

We now have one hundred and ninety subscribers.

The editor reserves the right to make any corrections or additions.

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CONTENTS

New Members and Changes of Address

A Day in VanBibber History

Success Story

Biographical And Historical Record, Wayne And Appanoose Counties, Iowa 1886. Page 295 & 296

John Van Bebber

Another Success Story

McBee/Roberson/Wilson Family Bible

Athens County Ohio Obituaries 1940-1947

Still Another Success Story

Newspaper Articles

Queries

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NEW MEMBERS

Julie McFail (RMCFAIL@juno.com)

Bill Bullard (BJBULLARD@aol.com)

Jean Brand (Jbrand1056@aol.com)

Ann Clarke Nechodom (Anechodom@aol.com)

Doug M. Goularte (dougul@lightspeed.net)

Mary M. Ferm (105671.224@compuserve.com)

Mark Brown (revbrown@freewwweb.com)

Myron D. Bergenske (mdbergen@mhtc.net)

Andrew VanBebber (andyvanbebber@hotmail.com)

Louise Kuldas (mimik@n-link.com)

Judi Bentley (gbug1@swbell.net)

Earl K. Harvey (erlzup@jps.net)

Brenda K. Goodman (Brenda.Goodman@Wichita.BOEING.com)

Ben Albright-Cassel (Ben13@aol.com)

Shirley A. Szoboscan (SZOGAR@worlnet.att.net)

Lee Estep (lestep@cwv.net)

Robert Hase (RDH1121@aol.com)

Darleanne (darlieanne@aol.com)

Peter Van Bibber (picker@ctlnet.com)

Judy Coll (judycoll@ncweb.com)

CHANGE OF ADDRESS

Don and Carolyn Cornell (dacbcornell@uswest.net)

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THIS DAY IN VANBIBBER HISTORY

By Gary R. Hawpe (GRH9999@aol.com)

This day in VanBibber history: April 22, 1998

On this day April 22, 1824 - One hundred and seventy four years ago today, Emily Hart Underhill, the wife of Theodore Fulton Warner was born.

Isaac VanBibber and Hester Op den Graeff
Jacob Isaac VanBibber Christina ___________
Isaac Jacobs VanBibber and Frances Schumacher
Peter VanBibber and Anna ____________
John VanBibber and Chloe Staniford
Chloe VanBibber and Jesse Bryan Boone
Minerva S. Boone and Wynkoop Warner
Theodore Fulton Warner and Emily Hart Underhill

On this day April 22, 1848 - One hundred and fifty years ago today, Mary Jane Ross was born in Lawrence County, Kentucky.

Isaac VanBibber and Hester Op den Graeff
Jacob Isaacs VanBibber and Christina ____________
Isaac Jacobs VanBibber and Frances Schumacher
Peter VanBibber and Anna ______________
Isaac VanBibber and Sarah Davis
James VanBebber Sr. and Hannah Hoover
Margaret VanBebber and Daivd Ross
James A. Ross and Sarah Lynn
Mary Jane Ross

On this day April 22, 1857 - On hundred and forty-one years ago today, James David VanBebber was born in Macoupin County, Illinois.

Isaac VanBibber and Hester Op den Graeff
Jacob Isaacs VanBibber and Christina ___________
Isaac Jacobs VanBibber and Frances Schumacher
Peter VanBibber and Anna _____________
Isaac VanBibber and Sarah Davis
James VanBebber Sr. and Hannah Hoover
James VanBebber Jr. and Nancy Ann Ferrill
George Noah VanBebber and Mary G. Jackson
James David VanBebber

On this day April 22, 1881 - One hundred and seventeen years ago today, John Passmore Tanner died in Greenup County, Kentucky. John is buried in VanBibber cemetery, north of the Little Sandy river, Greenup County, Kentucky.

Isaac VanBibber and Hester Op den Graeff
Jacob Isaacs VanBibber and Christina ____________
Isaac Jacobs VanBibber and Frances Schumacher
Peter VanBibber and Anna ______________
John VanBibber and Chloe Staniford
James VanBibber and Lois Reynolds
Rhoda VanBibber and John Passmore Tanner

On this day April 22, 1926 - Seventy-two years ago today, Winney Yoakum Gibson died. Winney is buried in Yoakum Chapel cemetery, Claiborne County, Tennessee.

Isaac VanBibber and Hester Op den Graeff
Jacob Isaacs VanBibber and Christina _____________
Isaac Jacobs VanBibber and Frances Schumacher
Peter VanBibber and Anna _____________
Isaac VanBibber and Sarah Davis
Martha VanBebber and George Yoakum Sr.
Isaac Yoakum and Mary Davis
Marcellus Yoakum and Sarah N. Cawood
Winney Yoakum and Isaac Curigur Gibson

The above VanBibber family information was submitted to the VanBibber E-mail roots web by Gary R. Hawpe.......San Diego, CA.
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SUCCESS STORY

Gary R. Hawpe (GRH9999@aol.com) and Carolyn Cornell (dacbcornell@uswest.net)

Got your e-mail that Bruce forwarded to me. Thanks for the information that you provided on her family.

I will list the 1860 and 1870 census on her, since it appears you may not have these as indicated from the sources you listed.

1860 - MILLS COUNTY, IOWA (WHITE CLOUD TOWNSHIP) PG. 132, LN. 14, DWELLING/FAMILY (888/830).

TAYLOR, B.P. 26-M-W- MILLER - MO

M.M. 21-F-W- MO

G.S. 2-M-W- IO

CHENEY, JOHN 20-M-W- LABOR - MO

1870 - JOHNSON COUNTY, MISSOURI (KNOB KNOSTER) PG. 16, LN. 35, DWELLING/FAMILY(143/133).

TAYLOR, BENJAMIN 36-M-W- RETAIL MERCHANT - MO

MARTHA 33-F-W- KEEPING HOUSE - MO

GEORGE 13-F-W- MO

ANNA 1-F-W- MO

For whatever reason, Benton was listed as Benjamin on the above 1870 census. You will see the son George and Anna (Annie) and the fact they lived there in Knob Knoster.

The next time I get a chance, I will take another look at the 1850 census. I may of just copied it wrong where I had her listed as Hannah. That name has always bugged me, but I know it was her because of the age.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

I have the birth date of Benton as being December 6, 1834. Is this what you have?

I'm in the military and stationed in San Diego. My family lives in Salt Lake City (Draper), Utah and this is where all my records are located. I brought some of my binders with me when I went up there a few weeks ago after returning from Japan, but unfortunately the one on this branch of the family is currently in SLC. The next time I go home, I will make note to see what I have on file on Irwin and his descendants. You will definitely need a copy of her brother's death certificate where it states the mother was Meal Sitton.

The book I found on the Sitton family was at the San Diego LDS family research

center, so the next time I'm there I will make a copy for you on this Mehala Sitton and her parents.

After Benton remarried and went West, do you know what part of California

they settled in?

You listed a Daniel VanBitter as owning adjoing property to Erwin. He did have a brother Daniel who never married. This Daniel died on March 12, 1906 in Jasper County, Missouri at the County Poor Asylum. Records at the Asylum indicates he was born on January 21, 1817. I also noticed where the marriage of Benton and Mariah was recorded by Isaiah Spurgin. This Isaiah Spurgin just so happened to be the father of Sarah Josephine Spurgin who married Jeffery James VanBibber, the brother to your Mariah.

Another reason I believe Mehala Sitton was the daughter of Jeffrey Sitton and Mary Bostick is, Irwin and Mehala had the son Jeffrey and also a daughter Mary.

Let me know if you find out anything on the family of Jane Irvine, the wife of James VanBibber.

Thanks!

Gary R. Hawpe

Gary,

Thank you for your quick and informative response to the query in VB NL No.15.

How we fit in? Don Cornell; Clark M. Cornell & Vera Margaret Taylor; James Smith Taylor & Florence Liddiard; Benton P., Taylor & Mariah Martha VANBIBBER; Irvine (Irwin, Ervin) VanBibber & Mehala Sitton; James VanBibber & Jane Irvine; Peter VanBibber & Marguery Bounds.

We appreciate your sending the name of Mehala Sitton and would appreciate getting copies of your information and sources. I had assumed from the information on E VanBibber probate that Mariahs' mother was named Mary, not realizing she was wife #2. We have a print out of probate proceedings for a E VanBebber in Pettis Co. Court running from April 1858 to May 1860 whose wife was Mary. Also of Van Bibber, Erwin, d 10 Mar 18 58 age 57 yrs 6mo 13 da listed in Blackwater Chapel Cemetery, Tombstone Inscriptions of Pettis Co. 977.848 V2. OUR IRVINE VANBIBBER?

As to Mariah Martha Ms' name:(source 1)husbands parents Elijah TAYLOR & Elizabeth FISHER show child #4 Benton P. TAYLOR mrd 17 June 1855 Martha M. went to Mills Co., Iowa (2)17 June 1855 TAYLOR T.? B VANBIBER, MORIAH, Isaiah Spurgin, Rec. 1 Oct 1855 " at house of Mr Vanbiber"

(3) A This is that I met at the house of Mr Er...in VANBIBERS and there joined together according to law, Benton P. TAYLOR & Maria E VANBIBER all of Pettis County in the 17 day of June 1855, Isaiah Spurgin Recorded June 23, 1855

(4)"Know all men by these presents that we Benton P.TAYLOR and Martha M. Taylor wife of said Benton P. Taylor (heirs of the estate of Elijah Taylor deceased)... was signed and sealed Benton P. Taylor and MARIAH M TAYLOR.

SO WE FIND DISCREPANCIES IN THE VARIOUS RECORDS -- as in the following:

(5) BENTON P. TAYLOR...lists different birth date and father but does list 5 children: George S., Annie M., Mary, Maggie, and baby {our James S. Taylor)

(6)Samuel Irvine Nov 29 1836

(7) Samuel Irvine Nov 29 1836 & Nov 13 1855 next to Alexander Irvine Sep 19 1837

(8)James Vanbitter 1835 & 1837; Daniel Vanbitter 1839; adjoining property to ERWIN VANBITTER 1837; & IRVIN VANBITTER 1833

(9)VANBIBBER. Irvine 59, M, Ky.; Mary J, age 16 F Mo; Margaret 14 F Mo; MARIAH 12 F Mo; James 10 M, Mo; George 5 M Mo: Frances 39 M VA {I don't remember seeing a "HANNAH" - I have a printout of the above census.

(10)TAYLOR Benton P M 49 farmer b. Mo; Martha F 45 wife keeping house b. Mo., parents b. KY & Mo; George W, M 22 son b. Iowa; Annie W, F 9 daughter b. Mo; Mary W, F 6 Daughter b. Mo; Maggie W F 3, daughter b Mo.
(11)finds Benton P. Taylor & Martha M. Taylor selling land in Missouri 1884

(12)finds them in Colorado with Martha at home with consumption in 1885:TAYLOR B.P.W M 51, b. Mo; Martha W F 46 wife at home consump, b. Mo; Annie M, W F 15 daugh. b Mo; Maggie W, W F 10 daugh, bo Mo; Jas. S son W M 4 b. Mo.

We have searched but have not found Mariah Martha's' death date and place although an Abstract & Index of deeds of Johnson Co, MO shows Benton P Taylor, Knobnoster Cemetery Assoc, wty dee, Lot 7 Block 7 Sec1 Date of Instrument 9 Jan 1869, Date of filing 25 Sept 1886.#959 988 BK 63 og 294, SO WE THINK MARIAH WAS BURIED HERE BY SEP 1886 as we find Benton P. Taylor marrying Edith Moore on Dec 21, 1886 in Johnson Co., Mo.

The oldest son George S Taylor died from burns at age 30 on 23 Apr 1888 in CS, Colorado The 2nd daughter Mary md. George Harris.

Our ancestor James Smith Taylor born in Mo Nov 1872 lived with his father in CA after his mother died & his father had remarried. He worked for the UPRR, Wells Fargo Express Co & the Oregon Short Line RR Co. James S. & Florence Liddiard were divorced soon after the birth of Vera Margaret Taylor. This is all we know about Mariahs' family at this date.

SOURCES Located in the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah (We have printouts & would send them to anyone who would like a copy.

(1)Pioneers of Pettis & Adjoining Missouri Counties 977.84 D2c Vol. 2 pg. 39

(2)Marriages in Pettis Co, MO 1 833-1855, 977.848 v28 pg. 43

(3)Marriage Record Sedalia Mo Vol. B 18 48-1865 #948.352 pg. 84

(4)Probate- film 953536

(5)History of Johnson Count pg. 806

(6) Original Land Entries Calloway Co, Mo pg. 92

(7) Original Land Entries Calloway Co, Mo pg. 94

(8) Calloway County, Mo pg. 33

(9)1850 Calloway Mo Census #153 pg. 33

(10)1880 Census Johnson Co, Mo, Soundex 2 87,753 T460

(11)Johnson Co, Mo Land Deeds, 959,985, Bk 57, pg. 405

(12)Census El Paso Count, Colorado June 1885 #498506 pg. 23

I have ordered a film from the Draper Manuscript series on the "Irvine papers" 1776-1834 as listed in an earlier VB NL & hope to find more about our Irvine ancestors.

Carolyn Cornell

Carolyn,

This is in regards to your query in VanBibber Newsletter Vol. 2, No. 3.

First, Mariah Martha VanBibber was the daughter of Irwin VanBibber and Mehala Sitton. I noticed you mentioned her mother's name was Mary and only assume you got this information off of the LDS Ancestral file which is in error. The reason I know her mother was Mehala Sitton, is because I have a copy of her brother's death certificate and it states the mother was such. After the death of Mehala, Irwin would marry Mary (Gee) Brashear on May 8, 1853 in Callaway County, Missouri. Mary could not of been the mother of Mariah, since Mariah was born about 1838. On the marriage record her name is listed as Mary Bosher. Mary had been previously married and her first husband's name was Benjamin Brashear. Irwin (25 Jul 1800 - 10 Mar 1853) is buried in Blackwater Chapel cemetery, Pettis County, Missouri with some of his other children.

Mary would die on January 31, 1882 near Bethlehem, Montgomery County, Missouri.

Concerning Mehala, I think you will find she was the daughter of Jeffery Sitton and Mary Bostick. I have ran across a book on the Sitton family in which this Jeffery and Mary settled in Callaway County, Missouri and they had a daughter Mehala. Nothing is mentioned about her but she was the only Mehala in the entire book and her birth year was close to Irwin's. The fact that she was the only one in a very large book on the history of the Sitton family, and they settled in the same area, one would have to believe she was the Mehala Sitton, the first wife of Irwin. This Sitton book can take you back more generations and without looking at my files, I believe this Sitton family came out of North Carolina.

Now to Mariah Martha VanBibber. Of course you know she married Benton P. Taylor on June 17, 1855 in Pettis County, Missouri. I never knew her name was Mariah Martha because I had only seen her listed as Martha or M.M. Since your husband is a direct descendant of her, I will lay my trust in you that she was "Mariah Martha".

Obviously, you have the 1850 census of her father and noticed she was listed as Hannah. Maybe you can tell me why they went to and was recorded on the 1860 Mills County, Iowa census only to return to Johnson County, Missouri and be recorded there in 1870 and 1880. I know they had four children, George, Annie, Mary, and Maggie and believe there may have been others who died young since there is a twelve year gap between the ages of George and Annie. There could of also been other children born after Maggie as I have lost this family after 1880.

It would be nice to know what happened to Mariah and her family and how your husband descends from this family. I hope I have been a little help to you and stay in touch.

Gary R. Hawpe.......San Diego, CA.

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BIOGRAPHICAL AND HISTORICAL RECORD, WAYNE AND APPANOOSE COUNTIES, IOWA 1886. Page 295 & 296

By Gary R. Hawpe (GRH9999@aol.com)

Identification:

Peter VanBibber Jr. and Marguery Bounds

John Jesse VanBibber and Rachel Greenlee

Elizabeth Greenlee VanBibber and Joseph Smith

Cassandra Jane Smith and Myrtilloe E. Hart

Nehemiah Ambrose Hart and Parmelia Cox

NEHEMIAH A. HART, farmer and stock-raiser, section I, Benton Township, was born in Clay County, Missouri, October 9, 1842. His father, Matillo Hart, who is now deceased, was a native of Virginia, and an early settler of Clay County, Missouri. He settled in Washington Township, Wayne County, Iowa, in the year 1848, where he entered 160 acres of wild land from the Government.

The country was then mostly inhabited by Indians and wild animals, and at that time there were but two houses in the present limits of Wayne County. The Harts were six miles distant from any habitation, and Indians were their most frequent visitors. Nehemiah A., our subject, was reared to manhood on a farm in this county, and educated in a rude log-cabin subscription school which was built by people of the county after his coming here. He was united in marriage, December 24, 1863, to Miss Parmelia Cox, a daughter of George Cox who settled in this county in an early day, remaining here till his death. Seven children blessed this union, of whom six survive----George N., James I., William L., Martin L., Ella B. and Leona Edith. Mr. Hart has made farming the principal avocation of his life, and by his industrious habits and excellent management has acquired a fine farm of 286 acres, which he keeps under good cultivation. Mr. Hart is an enterprising citizen of Benton Township, and is active in all enterprises which he thinks are for the advancement of her interests. He is always interested in educational matters, and has served one term as school director.

This researcher has in his records:

Nehemiah Ambrose Hart (9 Oct 1842 - 12 Jul 1911)

Permelia Cox Hart (14 Sep 1844 - 23 Apr 1900)

Both are buried in Hogue cemetery, Washington Township, Wayne County, Iowa.

Gary R. Hawpe.......San Diego, CA.

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JOHN VAN BEBBER

By Steve Smith (bgood@centuryinter.net)

John VAN BEBBER came to this county many years ago. He died in 1824 leaving a large family. They were from BOTETOURT County, Virginia. Their Children were:

1. Nancy, married William RENFRO

2. Isaac, married 1'st _________ MARTIN. 2'nd Sallie HAMILTON.
3. Jane

4. Peter, married Eleanor _________.

5. Gabriel

6. James

7. Magdaline

8. Margaret

9. William

(Taken from a County Court record, December 1824)

Isaac VAN BEBBER

Isaac VAN BEBBER's first wife was a MARTIN, his second wife was Sallie WILSON.

He had no children by his first wife. He settled near YOAKUM's Station.

His Children were:

1. Eliza, married __________ WAGONER (went to Arkansas)

2. James

3. Martha, married Ewing YOAKUM.

1. Nancy, married Canada ROGERS.
2. Christly, (went to Texas)
3. Helen, married Frank MASON (Oregon)

7. John, married 1'st __________ KINCAID. 2'nd Betty BEELER.

James and Christly were Mexican Soldiers and John was killed by KINCAID.

CLAIBORNE County Deed Book D, Page 252:

Power of Attorney

John Van Bebber to Isaac VAN BEBBER

(Note the name John VAN BEBBER, Jnr. was written and then stricken.

John VAN BEBBER, Jr, joined the War of 1812 and died in 1815 in that War) State of Tennessee Claiborne County May Term 1814 - this Power of Attorney from John Van Bebber to Isaac Van Bebber is acknowledged in open court by John Van Bebber - Let it be Registered. attest Walter Evans

Power to Isaac Van Bebber

Know all men by these presents that I John Van Bebber of the County of Claiborne and state of Tennessee for divers good causes and Considerations we hereunto moving have made Ordained Constituted and appointed and by these presents do make consti and Appoint My trusty Son (friend had been written and stricken), Isaac Van Bebber of the County aforesaid My true and lawfull attorney for me and in my name and to my use to ask demand recover or receive of and from Archibald Scot Administrator of Isaac Crisman deceased and Jinny Crisman Administratrix of Isaac Crisman deceased all my lawfull part of the Estate of said Isaac Crisman deceased--- Which I am Entitled to by lawfully Marrying his Oldest Daughter Margaret Crisman who is Justly and lawfully Entitled to an Equal Share of distribution of sd.

Intestates Estate, Giving and by these presents- Granting to my said attorney My sole and full power to take and persue and follow such Legal Courses for the recovery and obtaining of the same as I My Self Might or could do were I personally present- and upon a receipt of the Same Acquistances and Other Sufficient discharges for me and in My name to make sign seal and deliver as too one or more Attorney or attornies under him to substitute and appoint and again at his pleasure to revoke and further to do perform and Execute for me & in My name all and Singular thing or things which shall or may be necessary touching and concerning the premises as fully thoroughly as I the Said John Van Bebber in my own person ought or could do in and about the same Ratifying allowing and Confirming what soever My said attorney Shall Lawfully do or couse to be done in and about the Execution of the premises by Virtue of these presents, In witness whereof I have hereunto Let my hand and Seal this 27th day of February 1814, and 38th Year of American Independence

John Van Bebber
(seal)

Test James Renfro

registered the 13th day of August 1814

Wm Rogers

register by his deputy Walter Evans

Claiborne County Court Record, Tuesday December 21st 1824:

State of Tennessee, Claibourne County

To the Worshipful Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions to be held for the Cty of Claibourne, in the State afore said, at the Court House on the third Monday in December next - We the commissioners having been appointed by your worshiped summoned, swore to make partition of the real Estate of John Vanbebber deceased, between the legal heirs and legatees of John Vanbebber decd.

We the Commissioners, do hereby respectfully represent to your worships - that we did together with William Rodgers & Walter Evans, our surveyors, proceeded to make partition of the same, according to the following manner and form agreeable to the plotts & certificates hereunto announced, first we the Commissioners do find, that John Vanbebber decd seised and possessed of a tract of Land containing four hundred and ninety acres lying on Henderson and Companies Powell's Valley Larger Survey in Lott B. and that there are ten Legal heirs and Representatives holding equal Claims to the above named tract of land, therefore we the Commissioners have proceeded to divide the Same into ten equal shares as to number of acres, that is to say forty nine acres in each Lott but by means equal asto quality - Beginning at number one and containing up to number ten, and on balloting for said lotts do find that Nancy Vanbebber duaghter to the Said John Vanbebber decd (or her legal representatives) hath right to lott no. 10. Beginning at a Stake..........

Isaac Vanbebber, son of Sd. John Vanbebber Decd. hath right to lott no. 6, Beginning on a white oak Wm. Lynch's corner in Henderson's grant line at the Valley Ridge and running then South 29 E. 18 poles to a Stake a corner of Lott No. 5 in the line of lott No. 7, then S. 54 degrees W. 48 poles to a Stake Corner of lott's No. 3. 4. & 5. then South 27 degrees W 181 poles to a black oak and Spanish oak, then S. 54 E. 42 poles to the beginning containing 49 acres be the Same more or less,

That Jane Vanbebber daughter to the Said John Decd. hath right to Lott no. 2nd. Beginning in the lott........

That Sally Vanbebber, daughter to the above named Deceased, hath right to Lott No. 8.

Beginning at a Stake..........
That Peter Vanbebber, Son of Said Decd. hath right to the Lott No 1st, Beginning at a rock in the Lott line letter C. on Marcellus Mosses line......

That Gabriel Vanbebber, Son of the Decd, hath right to Lott No. 4, Beginning in the Corner of Lott No. 1, 2, & 3 and running.....

That James Vanbebber, Son of the above named John Vanbebber Decd. hath right to lott No. 5, Beginning at a Stake..........

That Magadelane Vanbebber daughter to Said Deceased or her legal representatives, hath right to lott No. 7. Beginning at Wm. Sharps corner.......

That Peggy (or Margaret) Vanbebber daughter of said Decd. hath right to lott No. 3, Beginning at a Small black oak saplin, .......

That William Vanbebber son to the above named Decd. hath right to lott No. 9. Beginning at a Stake in the main road in Isaac Yoakum's line to a black oak ....………….

In testimony where of we have hereunto set our hands and seals this 13th day of November in the year of our Lord One thousand Eight hundred and Twenty four

Wm. Rodgers Com. & Surveyor)

John Rodgers )

Isham Stinnet ) Commissioners

John Carr )

William Bowman )

Claiborne County Will Book D, Page 583, Claiborne County Courthouse, Tennessee

Will of Isaac Van Bebber

I Isaac Van Bebber do make and Publish this as my last will and testament hereby Revoking and making void all other wills by me at any time made. First I direct that my funeral Exspences and all my debts be paid as soon after my death as possible out of any moneys that I may die possessed of or may first come in to the hands of my Executor Secondly I gave and bequeath to my Beloved wif Sary Vanbebber all my real and Personal property to have use and benifit of it as long as she lives at her death I want my property all Sold by Executor upon two years Credit and the money Collected and Equally Devided Betwen my Children with the exception of James C Vanbebber and John M Vanbebber I bequeath to John M Vanbebber fifty dollars and James C Vanbebber fifty dollars the ballance to be Equeally devided betwen my five other Children to wit: Louiza A. Wagley Martha Elizabeth Yoakem Nancy Malinda Rogers Isaac C. Vanbebber and Healen Barthena Manerva Mason Lastly I do here by nominate and appoint James Hodges of Mountain Creek my Executor In witness Where of I do to this my will Set my hand and Seal this Thirty first day of January 1859

Isaac Vanbebber

(seal)

attest

1. H. Moore

James C. Hodges

Mark Shoemate

Steve Smith

Cumberland Gap,Claiborne County, Tennessee

I am the ggg grandson of Isaac VAN BEBBER and Mary MARTIN, his first wife. Isaac was the son of John VAN BEBBER and Margaret CRISMAN. All the children named in Isaac's will were children by his first wife, Mary MARTIN. John VAN BEBBER had one son, John VAN BEBBER, Jr., deceased in 1815, and not named in the division of his estate. John VAN BEBBER, Sr., died in 1818 in Claiborne County. Isaac VAN BEBBER and his second wife, Sarah Parker HAMILTON, both died in 1866 in CLAIBORNE County, TN. I descend from John M. VAN BEBBER, the second child of Isaac VAN BEBBER and Mary MARTIN. John M. VAN BEBBER died in 1865 during the last part of the Civil War in a family quarrel with his KINCAID in-laws.

Steve Smith

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ANOTHER SUCCESS STORY

From Darlieanne (darlieanne@aol.com) and Allen Potts

Searching for info on John Van Bibber/Brimmer/Bremmer. b. 14 Dec 1806.Lived
in Prospect, Marion Co., OH. Mar. Mary Cherry. Dau Eliza Ann b. 17 Jul 1846
mar. John Jacoby. Other children: Malissa, Albert, Ben, Margaret, Matilda,
Mary, John, Elvia, George. Who were his parents? Where from? Siblings?
John's parents, brothers, sisters. Where did they come from. Dates of birth,
marriage, death of these people. Anything relating to a John Van Brimmer who
lived in Marion County OH. and was the father of Eliza Ann Van Brimmer
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From Allen Potts.

Darlieanne I have a web site with a search able data bases related to Marion
County, Ohio. My present project is to upload the complete 1907 Marion County
History to my web site. Some of it is already on the site. Presently I have
scanned 718 pages of 1836. The Bio section is the last to be completed. I hope
to have it fully uploaded in a couple of weeks. I can scan and adjust 15 pages a
night. There are marriages and other histories.
Take a look and let me know if you find any thing. Off hand I don't remember the
name VanBibber/Brimmer/.Bremmer in the County but the name Cherry is there.
There is a store in Chapter3 or 4 in Marion County History that relates to
VanBibber - Slavery.
Al
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MCBEE/ROBERSON/WILSON FAMILY BIBLE

By Steve Smith (bgood@centuryinter.net)

Identification:
Isaac VAN BEBBER and Hester op den GRAEFF
Jacob Isaacs VAN BEBBER and Christina
Isaac Jacobs VAN BEBBER and Veronica SCHUMACKER
Peter VAN BEBBER, I., and Ann
Isaac VAN BIBBER, I., and Sarah DAVIES
John VAN BEBBER, Sr., and Margaret CHRISMAN
Gabriel VAN BEBBER and Barbara CARLOCK
Children:
Emily VAN BEBBER and Samuel McBEE (Step-brother)
Alexander VAN BEBBER and Louisa LEE
Marlena VAN BEBBER and John CAWOOD
Granville VAN BEBBER and Mary LEE

The following is a typed record of the births/marriages/deaths that appear in the Family Bible that has been in the McBee/Roberson/Wilson Family for at least one hundred years. This Bible is currently in the possession of Earl Wilson Quintrell; Winchester, Tennessee. Earl W. Quintrell received the Bible as a gift from Mrs. Lula Wilson Woolum who was the daughter of William Wilson and Emma McStella Roberson Wilson. Lula received the Bible from either her Mother, or from her Aunt, Barbara Elizabeth Roberson; and it is believed that Barbara Elizabeth Roberson received the Bible from her Mother, Martha Washington McBee Roberson, or her Grandfather William McBee, Sr.

BIRTHS:

Martha W. McBee, daughter of Wm. McBee and Barbara, his wife, was born the 14th
day of November 1839. (Her full name was Martha Washington McBee.)

Isaac T. McBee, son of Wm. McBee and Barbara, his wife, was born August 14th,
1844.

Barbara McBee, daughter of William McBEE and Barbara, his wife, was born
Monday, April the 16th, 1849.

William McBee and Barbara his wife, had an infant daughter born June 27th,
1851, and departed this life the same day at night.

Emily Vanbebber, daughter of Gabriel Vanbebber, and Barbara, his wife, was born
August 12th, 1824. (See Note #1)

Alexander Vanbebber, son of Gabriel Vanbebber and Barbara, his wife, was born
the 15th day of July 1826. (See Note #1)

Marlena Vanbebber, daughter of Gabriel Vanbebber and Barbara, was wife, was
born October the 28th, 1828. (See note #1)

Granville Vanbebber, son of Gabriel Vanbebber and Barbara, his wife, was born
February the 5th, 1831.

William Robert Robison, son of R. T. Robeson, and Martha, his wife, was born
July 19th, 1870. (See Note #2)

Barbara Elizabeth Robeson, daughter of Richard Toliver Robertson and Martha
Washington was born on Monday, December 18th, 1871.

Aggy Jane Robertson, was born on Wednesday morning February 18th, AD, 1874

William McBee, son of Samuel McBee and Ann, his wife, was born July 21st, AD,
1798.

Ann McBee, wife of William McBee and daughter of William Williams and Polly,
his wife, was born June the 13th, 1797.

Barbary McBee, wife of William McBee and daughter of Henry Carlock and Sally,
his wife, was born January 31st, 1805. (See Note #5)

Sally McBee, daughter of William McBee and Ann, his wife, was born August the
3rd day 1818.

Claiborne McBee, son of William McBee and Ann, his wife, was born October the
6th, 1819.

Samuel McBee, the son William McBee and Ann, his wife, was born October the 8th
day, _______________. (See Note #6)

______an McBee, daughter of __________ McBee and Ann ______________, wife was
born June _______ 1823. (See Note #7)

Houston McBee, son of William McBee and Ann, his wife, was born December the
15th, 1825.

William McBee, son of William McBEE and Ann, his wife, was born August the 6th,
1827.

Nathan B. McBee, son of William McBee and Ann, his wife, was born April the
27th, 1829.

Elijah D. McBee, son of William McBee and Ann, his wife, was born April the
11th, 1831.

Betsy Ann McBee, daughter of William McBEE and Ann, his wife, was born May the
5th, 1834.

Manerva Jane McBee, daughter of William McBee and Barbara, his wife was born
August the 30th, 1836.

MARRIAGES:

William McBee and Ann Williams was married October the 12th, 1817; and William
McBee and Barbara Vanbebber was married July the 20th, 1835.

R. F. Robertson and Martha W. McBee was married November 1869.

Robert Robeson was married November 11th, 1877 to Manerva Jane McBee (See Note
#8).

DEATHS:

Ann McBee, wife of William McBee departed this life September 20th, 1834.

Barbara McBee, infant daughter of William McBEE and Barbara, his wife, departed
this life on Wednesday, the 26th day of July 1843, being nine months and sixteen days old.

Isaac T. McBee departed this life on Saturday, the 12th day of April 1862 at halfpast one in the morning being seventeen years, seven months and twenty nine days old.

James Hamilton McBee departed this life on Friday the 31st day of May 1872 at ten o'clock in the evening.

William McBee departed this life June the 23, 1883. (See Note #3.)

Barbary McBee departed this life March the 2nd. 1888, aged 84 years and 2 months.

William R. Robison departed this life the 9th day of September 1889, aged 19 years and 3 months. (See Note #4).

Charley C. Roberson departed this life July 7th, 1891, age 9 years and 7 days. (See Note #2.)

M. J. Roberson departed this life August 30, 1891. (See Note #4.)

NOTE #1: Barbara Carlock, the daughter of Henry and Sally Carlock, married Gabriel Vanbebber. Further William McBee married Ann Williams. Sometime in the 1830's Gabriel Vanbebber died and within about the same time span, Ann Williams McBee died. Then, on July 20th 1835, William McBee married Barbara Carlock Vanbebber. Barbara Carlock and Gabriel Vanbebber had four children: Emily, Alexander, Marlena, and Granville.

NOTE #2: William Robert Roberson was the first son of Richard Toliver Roberson
and Martha Washington McBee. This entry in the Bible was made in a different
handwriting and with a different color ink that the others. Please note the spelling of the name Roberson. In this Bible record, the name will be found spelled as Robeson, Robison, Roberson, Robertson. These various spellings make this name terribly difficult to research. Richard Toliver Roberson has two sons- the oldest child William Robert, and the youngest child Charley C. Roberson. There were four daughters between these two sons. The two sons died young and before they were married; thus, with the demise of these two children, Richard Toliver Roberson had no male children to carry on his family
name.

NOTE #3: This entry and the one following in the entries are written by a different hand and with different color ink. One is written in purple ink and the other is blue ink.

NOTE #4: William R. Roberson was a young man of 18 years attending an academy at Fincastle, Claiborne County, or it might have been Campbell County, Tennessee, when he was taken ill consumption and had to leave school. He died within a short while and his illness and death were reported in two different issues of the Cumberland Gap Progress, a local paper that served the general Powells Valley and surrounding areas.

NOTE #5: William McBee was the second husband of Barbara Carlock. Her first husband was Gabriel VanBebber, deceased.

NOTE #6: Part of the page containing this entry has been torn off.

NOTE #7: Part of the page containing this entry has been torn off.

NOTE #8: Note the two spellings. Richard Toliver Roberson was the son of Robert H. Roberson. Martha Washington McBee was the sister of Manerva Jane McBee. Richard Toliver Roberson married Martha Washington McBee, while his father (Robert H. Roberson) married Manerva Jane McBee; she being the second wife of Robert H. Roberson.

COMMENT: William McBee and his second wife, Barbara Carlock Vanbebber were
very active in the Davis Creek Baptist Church in Powells Valley. In the Bible there is a sermon that was written on August 26th, 1851, and was signed by William McBee. Earl Wilson Quintrell is of the opinion that the majority of the entries contained in this old Bible were made by William McBee because of the great similarity of the handwriting and the characteristics of the pen with which they were made.
Steve Smith

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ATHENS COUNTY OHIO OBITUARIES 1940-1947

By Sandra Quinn (DSABQUINN@worldnet.att.net)

Athens County Obituaries 1940-1947
King Funeral Will Be Held on Tuesday Nelsonville- The body of Mrs. Cora Lucille King, age 28, who was killed in an automobile accident near Mansfield, Saturday, was brought to the home of her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Jesse Van Bibber at Laurel Run, Sunday. Funeral services will be held Tuesday afternoon at 2 o'clock at the Locke Church
with burial at Clarks Chapel. She is survived by her parents and the following brothers and sisters, James and Harold VanBibber, Haydenville; Mrs. Zelma Appleman, Logan; and Charles, Clem and Ralph at home.

Sandra Quinn

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STILL ANOTHER SUCCESS STORY

From Shirley Anderson (geneand@wtrt.net) and Anna L. Lutz (alutz@juno.com)

Secondly, a family tree question for Bruce, Steve, Gary and the other VanBibber
experts: The newcomers among us have learned that four-year-old Isaac VanBibber was taken into the home of Daniel and Rebecca Boone after the death of his father in the Battle of Point Pleasant. We have also read by now that the wilderness families had kind hearts, were hospitable, and were good about sharing what they had. No doubt there were many orphans who were immediately taken in. But Isaac was not an orphan, since his mother was living, and she was said to be the sister of a well-to-do planter (Davis).

This does make a person wonder: For the Boones to raise Isaac when his mother
was still living--wouldn't that indicate that he may have been a close relative?

I don't find anything on the Boone page to indicate a family relationship to
VanBibbers before they took Isaac in--but what about Daniel's wife Rebecca? Could Isaac have been related to her?

While we're on the subject of the Davis line in the family tree, that brings to
mind one more question, so how about one more topic for discussion:
Could the Davis line in the VanBibber tree have been ancestors of Confederate
President Jefferson Davis?

Okay everybody, how about some messages on our discussion group? The Boone page is showing us up, as far as e-mail is concerned, that is. Otherwise, no doubt
the Boones were lucky to get us into the family.

Regards,

Shirley Anderson, Texas
VanBibber--Bennett--Moore--Shaw--Brown--Riney--the Boones of Maryland--Montgomery--Simpson--Boarman--Taylor--Ogden--Ahern--O'Donnell

Hi Shirley,

I have just came home from a visit. You have asked some very good questions in your e-mail.

No Daniel Boone did not raise Isaac VanBibber. He was raised by his uncle James VanBibber who lived near Raleigh, N. C. (L. C. Draper MMS). Isaac's mother was married a second time and had to maintain her youngest children. Isaac being taken to N. C. probably helped her with this. Isaac returned to West Virginia when he was 14 years of age and joined the Kawashaha County Militia. I have tried to correct this with VanBibber researcher's for several years. The first time I learned of this was from Maude Kincaid of Missouri, ( "The History of St. Charles County"). The Boones did raise several young children, one was Polly Flinn whom Boone rescued from the Indians and the orphan children of James Boone, Rebecca's deceased brother.

The Boones were lucky to have had the VanBibbers to intermarry in their family. When Boone was in Point Pleasant Mason County (WVa) he visited the home of Jesse VanBibber often, They hunted together on 13 Mile Creek in Union District of Mason County. He also hunted with Matthias VanBibber in Nicholas and Kawashaha Counties (WVa) and with Paddy Huddleston in the same area. The State Museum has the traps that Boone and Huddleston used to catch beavers. Daniel Boone had a FurTrading Post in Point Pleasant with Matthias and Isaac VanBibber as partners.

The Davis has not been proved to be related to President Jefferson Davis. Sarah Davis' parents have not been identified. I have seen several queries from Davis researchers over saying their family had traditions that they were related to President Davis but did not know how they were related. My husband's family of Davis had the same handed down tradition as being near relatives of the President Davis. No connection has been found to prove this connection.

Anna
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NEWSPAPER ARTICLES

By Brenda K. Goodman (Brenda.Goodman@Wichita.Boeing.com)

The Charleston Gazette, Sunday, Mar. 26, 1950.

Pioneer John VanBibber Found Fact More Tragic Than Fiction In Life In Western Virginia, By William H. Maginnis

Fact was more tragic than fiction in the life of Capt. John VanBibber, friend of Daniel Boone and here in real life as well as legend. His story and the story of his family have enriched the history of the Greenbrier, Gauley, New Kawasha, and Ohio Valleys.
Scion of a family which emigrated from Holland to Germantown, PA, in the 1680's and moved later to Cecil County, MD. John VanBibber, his brother Isaac and Peter, and sister, Brigetta, as young adults moved first to the Shenandoah Valley.

Peter VanBibber was the first to come over the mountains to settle, and he built a fortified house on Wolf Creek in Greenbrier County.

John VanBibber was a surveyor and explorer. He acquired land in both Greenbrier and Hampshire counties and in 1760 married Chloe Standiford in Baltimore, MD.

About 1769 or 1770, John turned trader and with a boat laden with merchandise, made a trip down the streams and Mississippi rivers to Natchez, Miss.

Meets Daniel Boone: Attacked by Indians, VanBibber escaped and without compass or gun wondered for weeks through the forest a ragged and hungry creature. Finally coming to a cabin on the Hamlin River, he met for the first time Daniel and Rebecca Boone. They began a friendship that lasted 50 years and was strengthened by the marriage of their children. Boone there gave him a rifle and clothing.

Three years later, after John cut his name on VanBibber's Rock in Fayette County, he and his brother Peter and Re. John Alderson hiked farther down the Kawasha River, crossed it and found the "burning spring" which marked the discovery of natural gas in the valley.

In 1774, the VanBibbers met their first tragedy, when Isaac, who had become a Baptist preacher, was numbered among the slain at the battle of Pt. Pleasant.

In 1777, Capt. John VanBibber was in command of Fort Greenbrier on the Greenbrier River in what is now Summers County. John and Peter VanBibber and then sister, Brigetta, who had married Isaac Robinson, moved to what is now Mason County in 1781. The brothers settled on the South side of Kawasha River and the Robinsons on
the North side in Pt. Pleasant near Fort Randolph.

Series of Tragedies: Six years later, John VanBibber and a Negro named Davy crossed the Ohio River to make sugar. Later in the day, John's daughter Rhoda.

As the two were landing, however, a shot rang out and Rhoda fell dead. Indians immediately made Joseph a prisoner.

John VanBibber and Davy leaped into action, killed four redskins and fatally wounded another whose body was found afterwards.

Joseph, after his return several years later, said he saw barrels of scalps, including his sister's, which had been cut in two, and for which the English paid $60 at Detroit.

Indians subsequently raided the Robinson home, killed Isaac Robinson and his two-year-old son and captured his wife, Brigetta and two sons Isaac, 8 and John 4. The last was later murdered on the trail together with and infant born to Mrs. Robinson enroute to the Indian village. Brigetta was bought by a French trader five years after that
she found her son Isaac, who had been adopted by an Indian family, but she had to plead with him for weeks before he would consent to give up his Indian foster parents.

Matthias VanBibber, 18, son of Peter VanBibber, was stunned by a bullet fired by an Indian a year later but escaped capture, although Jacob VanBibber, 12, was caught by the Indians and taken to Ohio. There he had to run a gantlet, but following the earlier example of Daniel Boone, he lowered his head and butted an Indian boy, knocking him down.

The Indian warriors were so amused that one of them adopted the lad. Matthias managed to rescue the boy several years later.

The name VanBibber appears in many old records in the State
Department of Archives.

John VanBibber's will is recorded in Kawashaha County Court House. He mentioned his son, James; his daughter, Hannah, his wife of Goodrich Slaughter; Chloe, wife of Jesse Boone and Miriam, wife of Col. John Reynold, and his son-in-law Andrew Donnally Jr., who married Margery VanBibber who's daughter Caroline, married Col. John Lewis and became the mistress of the plantation Volcouloa.

Kanawha County land records show that Matthias VanBibber bought land on Peters Creek in what is now Nicholas County from David Robinson in 1800 and additional land from him in 1801.

Edward Campbell in his History of Nicholas County printed in the Nicholas Chronicle in the summer of 1912 wrote that Matthias VanBibber settled on Camp Fort where his only son David C.R. VanBibber, all ensign in the militia, re-19, and son Joseph, 12, also crossed to the Ohio side to visit them, sided for many years.

The first road built from Twenty Mile Creek to Hughes Ferry, according to Campbell, was built through the Narrows to William Sim's farm by Jesse VanBibber and paid for by subscriptions.

Felicita VanBibber, daughter of Matthias, married Moses M. Hill. Their son, George Washington Hill, became the father of Owen Duffy Hill. He was the father of Frank B. Hill. 1580 Lee St. and of Mrs. Hugh B. Robbins, wife of the former Charleston Health Directory, now Health Officer of Battle Creek, Mich.

VanBibber - Boone Marriages: The marriage between the VanBibber and
Boone families were discussed in a letter to the writer from Mrs. Nathaniel W. Hankemeyer, Manhasset, Long Island, N.Y. as follows:
Nathan Boone, son of Daniel Boone, married Olive VanBibber, daughter of Peter VanBibber, and sister of Matthias.

Jesse Boone, son of Daniel Boone married Chloe VanBibber, daughter of Capt. John VanBibber and cousin of Matthias.

Isaac VanBibber Jr., son of Isaac Sr. and cousin of Matthias married Elizabeth Hays, granddaughter of Daniel Boone.

Mrs. Henkemeyer, the former Frances VanBibber, was the daughter of James, son of David C. R. VanBibber. Matthias VanBibber, she said, was a close friend of Daniel Boone and his assistant when they surveyed the public lands of that region. "The old log kitchen of my grand-fathers home" she said "was once a hunting lodge used by Boone and Matthias VanBibber. When my great grand-father built his permanent home on that side, Daniel Boone was a guest in the house."

"Jesse Boone, Nathan Boone and Isaac VanBibber moved to Missouri with their families when Daniel Boone went there to live and Matthias VanBibber paid them a visit in 1804."

The article had two pictures with these captions: SCENES OF PIONEER VANBIBBER activities are shown on Greenbrier River (upper photo) near Lowell, Summer County, where Capt. John VanBibber, commanded Fort Greenbrier, in 1777, and on Cherry River (lower photo) near Belva, Nicholas County, where Matthias VanBibber and Daniel Boone surveyed and hunted together.


Oklahoma City, Monday, April 4, 1927.
Pastor-Farmer Preaches to Flock at Hopewell 23 Years Without Pay
By Merwin Eberle

For 23 years Rev, E.O. VanBibber, farmer-preacher, has sown the seeds of his crops on weekdays and sown the teachings of the gospel on Sundays.

For 23 years he has filled the pulpit of Hopewell Baptist church without a salary.

Now, with his hair gray from hard work and responsibility, Rev. VanBibber feels that he has earned a rest.

He wants to resign as pastor of Hopewell church, but his congregation won't let him. In fact, he did resign last year. A new pastor was called, but things didn't go well. The Hopewell Baptists were used to the old-time gospel preaching of Rev. VanBibber.

The new pastor moved on and Rev. VanBibber was persuaded to come back.

Hopewell Baptist Church, nine miles west of Edmond, is the center of one of the best farming communities in Oklahoma - Co.

For 23 years Rev. VanBibber has farmed his 80 acres of orchard and grain land in the daytime. At night he burned the midnight oil preparing his sermons. And Sundays he preached.

"Every now and then they pay me a little of something," he explained. "Last year they paid me $70 for my work. Some years they would pay me $5 or $10.

"I don't need the money. My farm is my living, and I didn't feel it was right to take much, especially from others not as fortunate as I.

"The people would have paid me a salary - I could have educated them to giving, but it wouldn't be right when I already have my living on my farm."

Rev. VanBibber has 100 members in his church, a B. Y. P. U. of about 20 and a Sunday school of 50.

In his 23 years he has paid more to the church than he has received. In addition to being pastor and preaching without salary, he is a leader in contributing to missionary work, the orphans' home fund and other church work.

Rev. VanBibber was reared as one of two boys in a large family of girls in Virginia.

"I can't remember when I didn't have an ambition to preach," he said, "I obtained a high school education by going to summer school. I took a theological course in Old Crosier College, and gradually built up a library of my own.

"My first job was assistant pastor in my old Virginia church. When my uncle left me this farm on his death, I came to Oklahoma."

Hopewell church was in a sad condition when Rev. VanBibber took charge 23 years ago. The congregation had split, and it was in a tiny frame building.

He united the congregation. An addition to the church was built in 1910 and when it burned up in 1921 the present $7500 two-story structure was put up.

Out of 220 voters in the township, which includes may Catholics and other denominations, Hopewell Baptist church has 100 members.

Professor Boiland heads the B. Y. P. U. John Ritter, **** Ward, and Ben VanBibber, the pastor's brother, are trustees.

Clarence Abdeson is leader of the choir with Ruby Banks, pianist. Mrs. VanBibber, assists the pastor in his work.

Rev. VanBibber is known in many counties and is frequently called may miles away to conduct the funeral of an old member of his congregation or marry young folks.

Brenda K. Goodman
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QUERIES

From Shirley A. Szoboscan (SZOGAR@worldnet.att.net)

I have my line back to Jakob Isaac Van Bebber b. ca 1600. Other related names in my line are Opdengraeff, Krey, Halderman (Halterman), Clemmer, Schottin, Oberholtzer and more. Do you have much on Clemmer and Krey (Kray) families? I am stalled on John Krey, who died in 1719 near Germantown, Pa.

And need some help with the Clemmer family. Who was the father of Elizabeth Clemmer who married Jacob H. Obertholtzer - Abraham or Henry Clemmer?

Shirley A. Szoboscan

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From Ben Albright-Cassell (Ben13@aol.com)

I am seeking information on the following VAN BEBBER sisters, first and 2nd
wives of Hermann OP DEN GRAEFF. Were they related to the early settlers of Van Bebber's (later Salford) township in Montgomery Co.? Who were their parents and when did they (or their parents) immigrate? From where?

Husband: Herman I. Op den Graeff
Born: ___ 1642 in: Krefeld, Lower Rhineland, Germany
Im'grated 16 Nov 1683 in: Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., PA
Died: ___ 1708/04 in: Kent Co., MD
Father: Isaac Op den Graeff
Mother: Greitjen Peters
Lived in Crefeld, Germany; Germantown, PA; Mispillion Hd., Kent Co., DE (PURSEL p.1).
Left Gravesend, England, on board the Concord (--- Jeffries, mr) on 24 Jul 1683 (OS), arvd Philadelphia 6 Nov 1683 (OS) (LUTZ p. 15).
In 1689, lived on the main street of Germantown [now Germantown Ave.] (Ibid., p. 17).
Wife 1: Elizabeth Van Bebber, called Lisbet (LUTZ p. U-5)/alternate spelling: Liesbet (Ibid., p.U-7).
F Child 1 Margaret Opdengraeff
F Child 2 Elizabeth Op den Graeff
M Child 3 Isaac Op den Graeff
F Child 4 Sytje Op den Graeff

Wife 2: Debora Van Bebber, sister of her husband's first wife.
Alternate spelling: Debra (LUTZ p. U-7).
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From Louise Van Bibber Kuldas (mimik@n-link.com)

Anyway, what I did find out a lot of the line used only their middle names, including myself until I started school. My GGf was John Green VB married to Mary Collier, when she died he married Fanny Clayton, my Dad called her Aunt Fanny.

John Green had Three sons my Gf William Noah ,(my line) Sherman and Uriah and two daughters Nell, she married Henry Ellsworth Wagner on April 9, 1897. Martha married William A Crabb on 30 Jun 1901.

That's a beginning. I have a lot of info I haven't even digested yet.

My GG Uncle Sherman had (8) eight children:
Mary Eva 1898
Flora May
Cleola 1898
Almose Jewel 1900
Annie Mable 1904
Thomas Willard 1914
James Ora 1918
Violet Lurelle 1921

Over the years I have been in touch with some of these people. I was stationed in the Army at the Finance Center there in St. Louis, Mo., before it was moved to Indiana, and visited them. My memory isn't what it use to be. And needless to say I could kick myself for not having written down the info and stories they told me. But at eighteen you think you know it all and will remember it all.

Oh well, live and learn. I did visit my GGG Uncle Alfred at that same time in Malden, Mo. I lost my Grandfather in 1945, so it was a shock to see Uncle Al, he was a twin to my grandfather in looks. Even to the fact they both used canes.

Any help you can give me will be appreciated.

Louise VB Kuldas
Rt. 2 Box 234 C
Lampasas, TX 7655

Editor of the Van Bibber Pioneers Electronic Newsletter:

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Wheelersburg, OH 45694

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