Van Bibber Pioneers E-Newsletter, Vol 1, No. 4

Van Bibber Pioneers Electronic Newsletter
Volume 1, Number 4 · February 1997

GREETINGS:

This is the fourth issue of the Van Bibber Pioneers electronic newsletter and I would have never believed that we would have grown in the number of subscribers during such a short period of time. I welcome all new subscribers and thank all of the earlier subscribers for spreading the word about the newsletter.

I started to list names and snail mail address in this issue, but did not get enough response to do it this time. I will attempt to make a list in a future issue.

We have sixty-two subscribers.

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CONTENTS:

1. New Members and Change of Address

2. Pension Application of Peter Van Bibber

3. Direct Descendants of John Bounds

4. The Death of Benje

5. Schumacher Family

6. Schumacher Deeds

7. Beatitudes of a Family Genealogist

8. Two Controversies

9. Burt - Boone Connection

10. Greenbrier County VA Court Records

11. Shoemaker Pioneers

12. Bounds - Cole Connection

13. Queries

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NEW MEMBERS

Welcome to the newest subscribers to the Van Bibber Pioneers

Cynthia Kathleen Johnson <alana@lee.1stnet.com>

JoAnn Goodacre <goodacre@juno.com>

Jim Furnash <JFurnash@aol.com>

Brenda Yoakum-Kriz <brendaayoaiz@cctr.umkc>

Christopher Handisides <tailrings@hotmail.com>

Edie Suttle <jsattle9@mail.idt.net>

Mary Wells <Sarevem@aol.com>

June Black <jblack@kih.net>

Mildred McCracken <epoole@ionet.net>

Edith Wallis Poole <epoole@ionet.net>

Dr. William Talley <cxwt@musica.mcgill.ca>

Danonne Barnam <DayonB@aol.com>

Change Of Address

Joseph Payne <Jpayne5744@aol.com>

Linda Watson <Lwatson97@aol.com>

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DECLARATION OF PETER VAN BIBBER FOR A PENSION

By Bruce Logan <blogan@zoomnet.net>

State of Indiana, Ripley County

On this 11th day of November in the year of our Lord 1833 personally appeared in open Court before the Honorable Henry B. Hinkle[?] judge for the Ripley county Probate Court now sitting Peter Van Bibber a resident of the County of Ripley aged sixty six years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on this oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June the 7th 1832- He entered the service of the united States under the following named officers and servd herein stated. In the month of October 1775 he entered the service as a volunteer and servd under Co., James Henderson, Major Thomas Quirk, and Capt. Mathew Arbuckle (the rest of the company officers he has forgotten). He left the service in the month of June 1777 after serving faithfully the most part of this time as an Indian spy for one year and eight months. He then afterwards in the month of November 1780 entered the service as a substitute for one John Dixon and servd for Ten months more under Col. Luke Boyer (Majs name forgotten/ Captn James Grimes Lient John Hall and Ensign Samuel Campbell. He left the service in the month of September 1781 same year after serving faithfully for two months which added to his other term of eighteen months makes two years and four months. He then in the month of July 1782 was drafted for six months (and served five months only under Col. Luke Boyer, Major Thomas Quirk Captain James Grimes, Lient Montgommory and Ensign Armstrong- He left the service in the month of December same year after serving faithfully for five months when he was discharged by Col. Boyer. This time and last tour added to his other term of eighteen months makes Two years and nine months for which services he claims a Pension. He resided at the time he entered the service and during the war in Greenbriar Co. Va. The first tour of eighteen months he volunteered, the 2d term of 10 months he served as a substitute, and the 3d and last tour of five months he was drafted- He was at the Battle of Point Pleasant with the Indians where Co. Lewis and a gentleman by the name of Fields were killed- He was also at the Battle of Donley=s fort and at the Surrender of Lord Cornwallis on the 15 [19] October 1781 During his 1st term he marched from Donley=s station to Point Pleasant where he continued garrisoned for one year and Eight Months except occasionally he was out on a scouting expedition, and in fact looked upon as one serving in that capacity throughout all the surrounding country- at one time he was out for three weeks constantly with one Leonard Cooper and William Morris- traversing the forests for the purpose of watching the movements of the Indians who were prowling about that region of the Country- during this three weeks scout he marched form Donley=s Station to Point pleasant from thence to Patallico Creek from thence he went to Elk River, from thence he crossed over to little glade [?], form thence to Muddy Creek, from thence to John Keeney=s Fort, from thence to Grimes= Fort, from thence back to Donley=s station where he remained until he was discharged- During this seasons tour he marched form Grimes station to Bottertout town, in Bottertour county and from thence to Roanoak to Neelys [?] Mills, from thence to a town the name of which he has forgotten, from thence he marched directly to York town where he remained and was at the surrender of Lord Cornwallis. He was then discharged. During this second tour he served also for some time at Grims station Sandys [?] station and at Pitticords station before he marched as he has just stated. During his 3d and last tour he marched from Grims station (where he had also remained for some time) to Fort Chissel- from thence he was sent with a express through the wilderness to General Clark at Fort Pitt and when he was returning back to Grim=s station he met his Major with some other officers who told him that the fighting was over and that he was discharged. This accounts for his leaving the service one month before the time was up for which he was drafted- This was in the month of December 1782. He was acquainted with Genl Washington, Genl Lee, Genl Lockhard, Co. Luke Boyer and many others. He does not now remember any Continental Regiments of Companies by name who served with the troops but is confident that there were many Regulars served part of the time with him. He has no written or docmnentary evidence, and he knows of no person living who can testify to his service. He hereby relinquishes any claim whatever to a pension of annuity except the present and that his name is not on the pension Roll of the Agency of any state.

Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforementioned.

(Signed) Peter Van Beb:

National Archives, Washington, D. C. Pension file #S 32566, Van Bibber, Peter

Pension granted in Indiana, 8 Jan. 1834. Recorded, Versailles, IN by Dan Boyd, Clerk. Book E. vol 7 pg 133.

Pensioner died 8 Oct. 1838.

Bruce Logan

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DIRECT DESCENDANTS OF JOHN BOUNDS

By Bruce Logan <blogan@zoomnet.net>

1 John Bounds - 1700

.. +Ann Hiam

......... 2 Ann Bounds

......... 2 William Bounds

......... 2 James Bounds

......... 2 John Bounds Abt 1672 -

............. +Rebecca Unknown

.................... 3 Sarah Bounds

.................... 3 James Bounds Abt 1696 - Bef 1775

........................ +Ann Dicks

............................... 4 James Bounds

............................... 4 Jesse Bounds

............................... 4 John Bounds

............................... 4 Eleanore Bounds

............................... 4 Jane Bounds

............................... 4 Margery Bounds Abt 1740 - 1844

.................... 3 John Bounds 1701 -

.................... 3 George Bounds 1708 -

Bruce Logan

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THE DEATH OF BENGE

By Steve Smith <bgood@internet.net>

The following account of the killing of BENGE, related by Dr. James HUFF, the last surviving member of Vincent HOBBS' party, differs in some minor details from the account given by others, though, probably not more than a perfectly credible witness speaking forty-six years later might be expected to vary. The story was printed in the "Jacksonian", a paper published at Abingdon, VA., in 1846:"Mr. Editor: Having recently had an interview with the venerable Dr. James HUFF of Kentucky, the last of the brave party that defeated the celebrated Indian BENGE and party, who gave me the following account of that affair. That some time in the month of April 1794 just before day-light, a man by the name of John HENDERSON rode up to YOKUM station in Powells Valley now LEE County and informed the station that the Indians had broken up some families on the North Fork of HOLSTON, and had taken the wives of Peter and Henry LIVINGSTON and two servants of the former and also a black man from Edward CLALYHAM, and that the men of the station desired to fall in ahead of the retiring party, as they were well acquainted with their route, and as was common in those times the cry of Indians was sufficient call to arms, they very soon mustered the following brave little band of mountain soldiers: Vincent HOBBS, John BENBEVER, Stephen JONES, James HUFF, James BENBEVER, Peter BENBEVER, Job HOBBS, Abraham HOBBS, Adam ELY, Samuel LIVINGSTON, George YOKUM and _____DOTSON, who were all soon equipped and on their march to a pass in the Cumberland Mountain, where they soon arrived, but seeing no sign in the trace of the recent passage of Indians they divided their company into small parties, to examine the small streams, which were thickly lined with laurel and ivy to the Kentucky side, where a short distance from the base of the mountain, one of the party, discovered a small stream of smoke rise from the edge of the laurel, and upon nearer approach, he perceived throught the dusk of the evening, that it proceeded from the camp of an Indian, who at the moment was stooped down kindling his fire, whereupon he deliberately raised his deadly rifle, at the sharp crack of which the enemy received a mortal wound, and his comrades the signal that the foe was found. They soon gathered and after examination, pronounced their victim a forerunner or hunter sent forward to prepare provisions, so they camped by the dead Indian during the night, at early dawn next morning recrossed the mountain, ascended the vally, marching rapidly to gain a position in a deep hollow in the mountain, that they supposed BENGE and his party would pass, the writer has seen this spot, it is one of those dark deep mountain passes where the ridge on each side seemed to reach the clouds, and tghe centere of the deep gloomy valley below is covered with large masses of unshaken rocks, filled every where with laurel and ivy, with a wild furious stream, tumbling and rolling in the midst."In this dismal place the little band of soldiers took their stand, determined to dispute the passage of BENGE to the last; and to rescue the prisoners or forfeit their lives in the attempt. For the purpose of attacking the enemy, they divided into two companies, and took their stations near each other in the edge of the laurel, adopting the following as the mode of attack. The first company was not to fire until the rear of the enemy had passed them and thus attack in front and rear, while the mountain upon either side afforded no possible passage for the coward or the conquered. Having thus secreted themselves along the gloomy gulf, which has terrors enough in itself to chill the blood of the timid, without the expectation of a deadly foe, these twelve brave backswoodsmen who were accustomed to the screams of the panther and the growls of the bear, sat but a short time calmly and unterrified in their hiding places, until two of them highest up the precipice (Vincent HOBBS and John BENBEVER), saw an Indian and the wife of Peter BENBEVER (LIVINGSTON), marching down the passage, but none of the rest of the party in sight, the prisoner in front of hte dark rough savage, the two soldiers' iron nerves grew stronger when they saw the fair lady driven over the logs, brush, and the stones by an unfeeling savage, and each man cocked his gun and crouched behing a large rock, and waited with breathless silence the approach of the Indian, which must pass within a few yards of them, but being desirous to know whether the rest of the party was yet in sight, BENBEVER cautiously raised his head above the rock to make the discovery and the keen eyed savage saw him at the distance of forty yards, the rest not yet being in sight, at the first sight of the white man's head he stooped forward and threw off a pack and made the dark deep hollow ring with a terrific Indian yell, at the same time making a blow with his tomahawk, struck the woman on the head and she fell dead at his feet; he wheeled and bounded off the way he had come, the two heroes seeing their plan was all frustrated, rose from their hiding place and BENBEVER fired at the running savage without effect; HOBBS a celebrated marksman leveled his piece and held her steadily upon a spot until the Indian passes before his sight, when with that quickness, with which the backwoods riflemen are so wonderfully gifted he fired and the Indian fell shot through the brains, and this was the celebrated BENGE. All the party then left their hiding places and rushed forward to rescue the rest of the prisoners when they found the Indians striving to make their escape into the laurel, and as they rushed upon the enemy who were striving to get into the laurel with the prisoners, my informant says he ran up very near the Indian, who had the other white woman, and raised his rifle to shoot him, at that instant he raised a tomahawk to strike the woman, who caught his arm and held it until my informant made several attempts to shoot the Indian as he was dragging her by the arm, but at every attempt, one of his comrades would seize his gun telling him not to shoot he would kill the woman, he then threw down his gun, drew his butcher knife and rushed towards the Indian, at that instant the Indian having crossed a log, jerked the female against it and extricated his arm and as quick as lightning entered the thicket, but as he entered he received the contents of another man's rifle, which sent him gbleeding to death in the laurel. The party then collected all their prisoners and returned to the tomahawked woman and to their great joy found she was yet alive, and was shortly afterwards with the other prisoners delivered to her friends to the great joy of all. "I would pursue this narrative further, but fearing this unvarnished relation would not be worthy of a place in your excellent paper, I for the present say no more." (DRAPER Manuscript 26 CC 60.) (Note: The name Benbever is a variant spelling of VAN BIBBER.) The above account giving the story of the death of BENGE, the half breed Indian the massacred and plundered for several years in the HOLSTON and POWELL Valley of Virginia and Tennessee. The VAN BEBBER brothers, John, Peter, and James, were sons of Isaac VAN BIBBER and Sarah DAVIS. Isaac VAN BIBBER was killed by Indians in the Battle of Point Pleasant, at Point Pleasant, WV on Oct 10, 1774. The YOAKUM Station mentioned was built by George YOAKUM and the VAN BEBBER brothers. George YOAKUM was the son of Valentine "Felty" YOAKUM, killed by Indians in the "Bloody" Muddy Creek Massacre of July 15, 1763 in GREENBRIER County, Virginia. George was taken hostage along with Elizabeth YOAKUM age 12, Sarah YOAKUM age 5, and Margaret YOAKUM. George was only about eight years old at this time. Margaret may possibly have been the widow of the deceased Valentine YOAKUM. There were many others taken prisoner that day by the Delaware and Shawnee Indians, led by Chief Cornstalk, who fought at Point Pleasant.George was held prisoner until released by Colonel BOUQUET at Fort Pitt on December 1, 1764, from the Delaware. Elizabeth was released at Fort Pitt on January 5, 1765 by Shawnee. Sarah was released on May 10, 1765 by the Shawnee. George later married Martha VAN BEBBER, sister of Peter, James, and John VAN BEBBER. Sarah married Peter VAN BIBBER, III, son of Peter VAN BIBBER, II, and Margery BOUNDS. Peter VAN BIBBER, II, was brother of Isaac VAN BIBBER and son of Peter VAN BIBBER, I. Elizabeth later married John SHOEMAKER.It is not known the identity of these YOAKUM's but believed by this researcher that Sarah and Elizabeth were sisters of George and possibly Margaret was the Mother. This is only a guess and no proof found to support this idea. George moved from GREENBRIER County to WASHINGTON County in 1785 along with Peter VAN BEBBER, and his bride, Eleanor VAN BIBBER (dau. of Peter VAN BIBBER and Margery BOUNDS); John VAN BEBBER, James VAN BEBBER, and Nancy VAN BEBBER, who married Robert HOWARD. They settled on the Powell River and erected Fort YOAKUM. Here John VAN BEBBER met and married Margaret CRISMAN, the oldest daughter of Isaac CRISMAN, I., and Jean SCOTT. Isaac CRISMAN was killed by Indian massacre in 1776 by Indians at the RYE Cove Fort, in present day SCOTT County, VA. His widow later remarried to Nathaniel HIX of the Powell Valley, Virginia area. The YOAKUM, VAN BEBBER, and HOWARD families lived in the Powell River area until about mid 1796 when they moved further down the Powell Valley to HAWKINS County, TN, and built a new YOAKUM Station in what is now Speedwell, CLAIBORNE County, TN, the home rural town of this researcher. The fort was used in the new community as a gathering for Indian troubles, community affairs, school, and most probably church. The fort was active until shortly after 1800, when the Indian troubles in this area were finally resolved. George died in the Cumberland Mountains on Oct 28, 1800 in a bear hunt. The VAN BEBBER brothers remained in Powell Valley the remainder of their life. John died 1818. Peter died ca 1816. James died ca 1834. Nancy and her husband died in Powell Valley.Martha YOAKUM left Powell Valley in 1810 with many of her twelve children and moved to southwest Illinois and eventually settled in SANGAMON County in 1819 and died there in Salisbury Township, near present day Springfield, Ill. Peter's wife, Eleanor, moved to Missouri after the death of her husband, where she had much family living. Hannah HOOVER, wife of James probably died in Powell Valley.This researcher is very interested in the gathering of family records of any of the above named families. Any comments, questions, or additions are welcome. I have several accounts testifying of the above story by witnesses that were that day and also taken prisoner by the Indians.Steve SMITH213 Reagan StreetCumberland Gap, TN 37724

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SCHUMACHER FAMILY

By Allen and Susan Potts <allen19@mail.id.net>

FIRST GENERATION

1. Sarah SHOEMAKER was born on May 22 1698 in Bristol Twp, Bucks, Pa.. She died in 1765 in Bristol Twp, Bucks, Pa.. She was christened. She was buried.

SECOND GENERATION

2. Peter SHOEMAKER was born in 1652 in Krisheim, Palatinate. He died on Mar 1 1741 in Germantown, Philadelphia, Pa.. He was christened. He was married to Margaret Isacks OP DEN GRAEFF on Feb 6 1697 in Abington MM, Pa..

3. Margaret Isacks OP DEN GRAEFF was born about 1667 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She died on Jul 14 1748 in Pennsylvania. Peter SHOEMAKER and Margaret Isacks OP DEN GRAEFF had the following children:

1 i. Sarah SHOEMAKER.

ii. Mary SHOEMAKER was born on Jul 15 1701 in Germantown, Philadelphia, Pa..

iii. Margaret SHOEMAKER was born on Jun 8 1704 in Germantown, Philadelphia, Pa.. She was christened. She died.

iv. Peter SHOEMAKER was born on Aug 9 1706 in Germantown, Philadelphia, Pa..

v. Daniel SHOEMAKER was born on Nov 14 1707 in Germantown, Philadelphia, Pa.. He died before 1741. He was christened.

vi. Isaac SHOEMAKER was born on Nov 15 1711 in Germantown, Philadephia, Pa..

vii. Elizabeth SHOEMAKER was born on Nov 6 1713 in Germantown, Philadelphia, Pa..

viii. Agnes SHOEMAKER was born on Mar 9 1716 in Germantown, Philadelphia, Pa..

ix. John SHOEMAKER was born on Jun 30 1718 in Germantown, Philadelphia, Pa..

x. Samuel SHOEMAKER was born on Oct 13 1720 in Germantown, Philadelphia, Pa.. He (or she) died before 1741. He (or she) was christened.

THIRD GENERATION

4. Peter SCHUMACHER was born in 1622 in Kreshiem, Friesland, Holland. He died in 1690 in Germantown, Philadelphia, Pa.. He was married to Sarah HENDRICKS.

5. Sarah HENDRICKS. Peter SCHUMACHER and Sarah HENDRICKS had the following children:

i. Peter SHOEMAKER.

ii. Mary SCHUMACHER was born.

iii. Frances SCHUMACHER.

iv. Gertrude SCHUMACHER.

v. SCHUMACKER.

vi. SCHUMACHER.

6. Herman Isacks OP DEN GRAEFF was born about 1643 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He died in 1701. He was married to Lisbet Isaacks VAN BEBBER.

7. Lisbet Isaacks VAN BEBBER was born about 1643. Herman Isacks OP DEN GRAEFF and Lisbet Isaacks VAN BEBBER had the following children:

3 i. Margaret Isacks OP DEN GRAEFF.

FOURTH GENERATION

12. Herman Isaac OP DEN GRAEFF was born on Sep 1 1616 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He died on Jan 17 1669 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He was buried on Jan 19 1669 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He was married to Greitigen PETERS.

13. Greitigen PETERS was born about 1620 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She died on Nov 19 1683 in Philadelphia, Philadephia, Pa.. !Name could be Margareta Peters Herman Isaac OP DEN GRAEFF and Greitigen PETERS had the following children:

i. Derick Isacks OP DEN GRAEFF was born about 1642 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He died in May 1697. He was christened. He was buried.

ii. Herman Isacks OP DEN GRAEFF.

iii. Abraham Isacks OP DEN GRAEFF was born about 1645 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He was christened. He died. He was buried.

FIFTH GENERATION

24. Herman OP DEN GRAEFF was born on Nov 26 1585 in Aldekerk, Rheinland, Prussia. He died on Dec 27 1642 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He was married to Grietgen PLETJES on Aug 16 1605 in Aldekerk, Rheinland, Prussia.

25. Grietgen PLETJES was born on Oct 16 1588 in Kempen, Rheinland, Prussia. She died on Jan 5 1643 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. Herman OP DEN GRAEFF and Grietgen PLETJES had the following children:

i. Child OP DEN GRAEFF was born in 1606 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She died in 1606 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She was christened. She was buried.

ii. Trinken OP DEN GRAEFF was born on Aug 18 1607 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She died on Jun 21 1608 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She was christened. She was buried.

iii. Hester OP DEN GRAEFF was born on Jan 18 1609 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She died on Feb 21 1643. She was christened. She was buried.

iv. Abraham OP DEN GRAEFF was born on Jul 15 1610 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He was christened. He died. He was buried.

v. Trinken OP DEN GRAEFF was born on Feb 15 1612 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She died on Dec 15 1658. She was christened. She was buried.

vi. Hilliken OP DEN GRAEFF was born on Sep 1 1614 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She died on Aug 20 1691. She was christened. She was buried.

vii. Herman Isaac OP DEN GRAEFF.

viii. Jacob OP DEN GRAEFF was born on Sep 17 1617 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He died in Feb 1619 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He was christened. He was buried.

ix. Aletgen OP DEN GRAEFF was born in 1619 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She died in 1619 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She was christened. She was buried.

x. Child OP DEN GRAEFF was born in 1620 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He (or she) was christened. He (or she) died. He (or she) was buried.

xi. Derick OP DEN GRAEFF was born in Oct 1621 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He died on Apr 14 1655. He was christened. He was buried.

xii. OP DEN GRAEFF was born in 1622 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She died in 1622 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She was christened. She was buried.

xiii. Aletgen OP DEN GRAEFF was born in 1623 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She died in Apr 1706. She was christened. She was buried.

xiv. Andries OP DEN GRAEFF was born in 1625 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He died in 1625 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He was christened. He was buried.

xv. Feiken Sophie OP DEN GRAEFF was born on Apr 1 1628 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She was christened. She died. She was buried.

xvi. Susanna OP DEN GRAEFF was born on Oct 15 1629 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She was buried on Mar 9 1714. She was christened. She died.

xvii. Andries OP DEN GRAEFF was born in 1631 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He died in 1631 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He was christened. He was buried.

xviii. Jakob OP DEN GRAEFF was born in 1634 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He died in 1634 in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. He was christened. He was buried.

SIXTH GENERATION

50. Driessen PLETJES was born about 1555 in Kempen, Rheinland, Prussia.He died on May 22 1608 in Kempen, Rheinland, Prussia. He was christened. He was buried. !The name could be Andries Pletges. He was married to Adelheid GOEBELS on Dec 13 1584 in Kempen, Rheinland, Prussia.

51. Adelheid GOEBELS was born about 1563 in Kempen, Rheinland, Prussia. She was christened. She died in Crefeld, Rheinland, Prussia. She was buried. Driessen PLETJES and Adelheid GOEBELS had the following children:

i. Grietgen PLETJES.

SEVENTH GENERATION

102. Sylli GOEBELS was born about 1531 in Kempen, Rheinland, Prussia. He was christened. He died. He was buried. He was married. Sylli GOEBELS had the following children:

i. Adelheid GOEBELS.

SOURCES:

Allen Potts

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SCHUMACHER DEEDS

By Anna L. Lutz <alutz@juno.com>

Philadelphia County Pennsylvania Book E Germantown Book p 235 1683-1809

Grantee Deeds

Note: Peter Schumacher fr Dick Sypmen written in Dutch 1685 Recorded Philadelphia.

1. Schoemaker Peter do William Penn

2. Schoemaker Peter do William Penn same number from H. J. Opese Graeffae

E4 Vol 7-180 Shoemaker Peter fr M. Van Bebber

F5- 207 Peter Shoemaker fr R. Nevel

G8-374 Peter Shoemaker fr _________

G 11-382 Peter Shoemaker fr C. Cunrad

D3-178 Peter Shoemaker fr Wm. Gregory al

EF2-544 Susannah Shoemaker fr J. ShoemakeEf9-389 Sarah Shoemaker al fr Ab Russell

1683-1718 Grantor Deeds

E4-Vol 7-139 Peter Shoemaker to Matthias Van Bebber

(1739-1751) G4-212 Peter Shoemaker to Walter Seimens (Mortage)

G5-300 Peter Shoemaker to Rebecca Edgell

(1751-1766) H1-609 Peter Shoemaker to Isaac Shoemaker

H3-330 Peter Shoemaker to John Shoemaker

H15-120 Peter shoemaker to Henry Frederick

H17-170 Peter Shoemaker to Matthias A Hagermold

H17-181 Peter Shoemaker to Matthias A. Hagermold

H17-183 Peter Shoemaker to Mattias A. Hagermold

H17-207 Peter Shoemaker to Christopher Meng

H20-283 Peter Shoemaker to John George Wawhusudal

I7-96 Peter Shoemaker to Charles Willing

(1799-1809) EF17-62 Peter Shoemaker to Johannes Mock

Anna L. Lutz. Copied from Pennsylvania State Archives, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

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BEATITUDES OF A FAMILY GENEALOGIST

By Susan Bradford

Copied from <http://www.seidata.com/~hoffman/poems.html>

Source: Prairieland Pioneer Summer 1995

Prairieland Genealogical Society

Southwest Historical Center Room 141,

Southwest State Univ. Marshall, MN 56858

Beatitudes of a Family Genealogist

Blessed are the great grandmothers, who hoarded newspaper clippings and old letters, For they tell the story of their time.

Blessed are all the grandfathers who filed every legal document for this provides proof.

Blessed are grandmothers who preserved family Bibles and diaries, For this is our heritage.

Blessed are fathers who elect officials that answer letters of inquiry, For - some - they are the only link to the past.

Blessed are mothers who relate family traditions and legends to the family, For one of her children will surely remember.

Blessed are the relatives who fill in family sheets with extra data,

For them we owe the family history.

Blessed is any family whose members strive for the preservation of records,

For theirs is a labour of love.

Blessed are the children who will never say,

"Grandma, you have told that old story twice today."

Susan Bradford

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TWO CONTROVERSIES

By Anna L. Lutz <alutz@juno.com>

(Editor: This is the reply from Anna to me concerning two of the major controversies involving the research of our families. I do not mean to start an argument, but if anyone has more evidence on these topics let me hear from you.

"William Penn and the Dutch Quaker Migration to Pennsylvania, by William I. Hull p. 408, Appendix C, states " Schumacher, Sarah Hendircks: wife of Peter II).

I have a copy of Wm. I. Hull's book. I believe that Hull has typeographical error(s). On page 407 under Hendricks he does not list a Sarah Hendricks as being married to Peter Schumacher. The only entry of a Sarah Hendricks is a marriage to Isaac Schumacher a son of George and Sarah Schumacher. This is odd since he entered a Sarah Hendricks Schumacher on p 408 as being married to Peter Schumacher II. Why did he not list Peter Schumacher I? Peter Schumacher II and Peter Schumacher III are the only ones listed in this Appendix. Did Hull get the numbering mixed up? The only Peter Schumacher I that I know is Peter who came to Krisheim with his widowed mother and three known brothers. He is the one who came to Germantown. Sarah Schumacher is a cousin! She is also named as a cousin in Samuel Pennypacker History of Germantown. I have seen the other sources and it is about even with them saying she is a wife or she is a cousin. If she was the wife it would be written she was the wife as was the wife of Gerrit Hendricks and not as a cousin (p 292). "

(Editor: Volume I, Issue 1 stated, On 22 Mar. 1786, Peter Van Bibber was appointed guardian of Matthias/Matthew Van Bibber, son of Isaac and Sarah (Davis) Van Bibber. Could this be the same Matthias "Tice" Van Bibber who married Margaret Gardner and Peggy Hutchinson. Most researchers, including me, have assumed that Matthias was the son of Peter and Margery (Bounds) Van Bibber. He was born on 24 Nov. 1774 and that date would put him in the realm of possibility of being Isaac's son even though Isaac was killed on 10 Oct. 1774 at the Battle of Point Pleasant. (Guardian Book of Kanawha Co., VA/WV)).

"Matthias VanBibber had a son David C. R. Vanbibber who was interviewed by Dr. Anthony Rader of Nicholas County ( WV). In this interview David names his grandfather Peter Vanbibber and my Great Uncle John Vanbibber. The article also gives this information, In the year 1773 there was a fort on Wolf Creek (Vanbibbers Fort) in what is now Monroe County W Va at and near which my grandfather and his brother lived. My father Mathias Vanbibber was born in this fort in that year 1773. This interview "Statement Of David Van Bibber" age 81 is found in the History of Kanawha County, pp 70-71, Hardesty (Reprinted by Jim Comstock) and in the Beckley Post Herald Beckley WV Wed. July 31 1957, "The Legend Of Van Bibber Rock: Part II".

Anna L. Lutz

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BURT - BOONE CONNECTION

By Bruce Logan <blogan@zoomnet.net>

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From: Margy Miles <4miles@is.usmo.com>

To: Boone Family discussion list <BOONE@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu>

Subject: BURT-BOONE CONNECTION

From Pioneer Families of Missouri By Bryan & Rose, Published in St. Louis in 1876.

John BURT, of Orleans Co., Vt. removed to Ohio in 1815. His three sons, John A., Henry, and George W. came to Calloway Co., Mo. from 1819 to 1821. They were Millwrights by trade, and built the first water mill in Montgomery County, for Col. Irvin PITTMAN. After a number of years the mill was moved away and the large water wheel left standing. The action of the water of course kept it constantly turning, and the negroes and a few superstitious white people of the vicinity imagined that spirits had something to do with it, and could not be induced to go near the place.

The BURTS also built the first water mill in Calloway County. Henry BURT died in 1823, leaving no family. John represented Calloway County in the legislature four years, was Judge of the County seven years, and died in 1855. He married Bathsheba FULKERSON of St. Charles Co. and they had nine children. Major George W. Burt served in the war of 1812, when he was only 15 years of age, and was captured by the British. He married ERRETTA VanBIBBER, daughter of Major Isaac VanBIBBER, and a great-granddaughter of Daniel BOONE. When he asked the consent of her father to the marriage, the old gentleman replied in a loud tone of voice that he could have her if he wanted her, but she was a "contrary stick", and if he could do anything with her, he was welcome to her; but he didn't want him to send her back on his hands. Major Burt gladly accepted the "contrary stick" and obtained a good wife by doing so.

They prospered beyond their expectations and accumulated a fortune. Major Burt was a money loaner for many years, but would never accept more interest than the law allowed him. He always paid every cent he owed and collected all that was due him. He was a good man and respected by the entire community where he lived. He died in March, 1876, in his 78th year, leaving a widow and one son, Huron. They also had a daughter but she died many years ago. Major Burt was in poor health for about 30 years before his death, and his complaint often carried him apparently to the verge of his grave.

Margy Ball Miles Near St. Louis, Mo.

4miles@is.usmo.com

Warren Co.,Mo.GenWeb Page; http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7027

Bruce Logan

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GREENBRIER COUNTY VA COURT RECORDS

By Anna L. Lutz <alutz@juno.com>

March 22 1786 Greenbrier County Court Records Vol 1780-1786 P 463. Peter VanBibber appointed Guardian. They did move to southwest Va. in 1786. [NOTE: John VanBibber being appointed Lt of the County Militia May 11 1786 in Russell County is how I found them.]

P 375 June 21 1785 Ordered to be certified to the Auditors that Sarah VanBibber now wife of Wm. Griffy made sufficient proof to this court that she was two years the widow of Isaac VanBibber and that she had seven children during her widowhood.

P 7 1781 Court doth appoint Peter VanBibber First Lt. in Capt (Duncan) Grymes Company of Militia.

Pg 26 Aug 21 1781 Elizabeth Yoakum with George Yoakum and George Whaley

acknowledged bond of ten thousand pounds with condition that the said Elizabeth Yoakum shall keep the peace towards all the good citizens of the Commonwealth for and during the term and time of twelve months and one day thereof especially towards Rebecca Patterson.

Vol 1787-1789 April 1788 Page 178 ordered that it be certified that Sarah VanBibber widow of Isaac VanBibber dec'd a pensioner who was allowed by the Commissioners of the Southern District in the year 1775 raised and maintained her family at her own expense having no estate of her husband's and that she is object in need of the allowance made her. [NOTE: the Year 1788, she had not left Greenbrier County at this time to move to southwest Virginia with her children.]

Sept 1788 Eliza Griffy and Wm. Griffy with John Osbourne their security certificate is granted them for obtaining letters of administration of the estate of Thomas Griffy, dec'd.

Pg 20 Sept 1790 On motion of Conrad Keller a commission is given him to take the acknowledgement of Cloe VanBibber wife of John VanBibber [son of Peter & Margery] her relinquishment of dower in land sold by her husband to said Keller. [NOTE: Capt. John VanBibber lived near Kellers now Summers County WV. They move to Point Pleasant after this date. Brother Peter had already settled there about 1781. The Indians were still a problem on the frontier which continued till the Anthony Wayne Treaty 1795.]

Anna Lutz

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SHOEMAKER PIONEERS

By JoAnn Goodacre <

The following is from SHOEMAKER PIONEERS by Benjamin H. Shoemaker, 3rd. 2nd Edition 1986. p. 75 and will be of interest to researchers of Frances (Feronica} SHOEMAKER and Issac Jacob van BEBBER. [The names are spelled as printed in the book].

"The early European followers of Menno Simons banded together to escape regious persecution, and established colonies at strategic points in central Europe, where the government was tolerant, and they were more or less welcome. Peter and George, brothers, were of these Mennonite families, and iut is possible that their roots go back to a small Mennoite colony at Monschau, in the Rhine Province of Germany, just south of Aachen and a few miles east of the Belgium frontier. At Monschau in the year 1597, is found a Henrich Schumacher and his wife and Arndts (Arnold) Henrich and his wife, Dederborn. When persecution began in this area, and these Mennonite families began to lose their possessions by confiscation, the colony appears to have moved to Dollendorf, near Lowenburg in the Siebengenbirge hills on the east bank of the Rhine River, south of Cologne.

It is here at Dollendorf that is found the earliest definte knowledge of Peter and George Shoemaker. The Duke of Julich und Berg in 1652 gave notice that this religious sect must sell their possessions and vacate their land, and he gave them two years to do it. In the Staats Archiv Dusselforf is found the following "On the 15th February, 1655, there came before the rent controller, Agnes, widow of Arnold Schumacher, to state that she appoints Eithumb, her son-in-law, as trustee for Peter and George, both of age and guardian for her minor children:- Arnold, Treinchen (Catherine), and Adelgen (Adele)". This family had sold its possessions at Niederdollendorf, including many meadows, vineyards, and lands in and around ther Siebengebirge, cooling equipment, stable and furniture to Gerhard von Bonn and his wife, Catherine Benders von Bonn, for 1440 taler. From this money they had to take 300 taler for debts, but the rest was divided among the children. They received free transportation to Mainz. Arnold Shoemaker's widow was Agnes Roesen, and the family estate was from the mother's not the father's side. Agnes died soon after 1655. Of the minor children mentioned above, Arnold was the son of Arnold and Agnes; Adele was the daughter of Theiss (Matthias) Bonn, son-in-law of Agnes; about Catherine there is a question, although Peter Shoemaker did have a daughter, Catherine, who could have been named for Perter's sister.

From Mainz the family moved to Kriegsheim, near Worms, and it is well known that Peter and George Shoemaker were converted at Kreigsheim about 1659 from the Mennonite to the Quaker faith by William Ames and George Rolfe, missionaries of William Penn. By the year 1685, Peter's wife and George Shoemaker himself had both died. Arnold Shoemaker, the younger, third brother of Peter and George, remained a Mennonite and was still living in Kriegsheim in 1685. There is no reason to believe he ever emigrated to America. A brother-in-law of Peter, George and Arnold was Mathias Bonn, who was living at Kriegsheim in 1685. Records also speak of a foster son of Peter Shoemaker also at Kriegsheim in the same year - Rohrig Otto, possibly Otto Rohrig.

The preceding material was brought to light and developed through the research of Wilhelm Niepoth and Dr. Walther Risler, both of Crefeld, Germany. (See "From Kreigsheim to Pennsylvania" by Wilhelm Niepoth, Germantown Crier, March 1957)."

Peter Shoemaker, widower, arrived in PA in 1685 and settled in Germantown with his only son, Peter Jr., and three daughters:- Mary, Frances and Gertrude. Another daughter, wife of Dielman Kolb, remained and died in Germany. His daughter, Mary, married Reynier van Burkelow; his daughter, Frances (Feronica), married Isaac Jacob van Bebber; and his daughter Gertrude (Catherine), married Peter Cleaver. Peter Shoemaker remained a Quaker. He was born about 1622 and died in 1707.

Isaac Jacob von Bebber and his wife, Frances Shoemaker, moved with Reynier Herman von Burkelow to Bohemia Manor in Maryland. This family remained in Maryland and had many notable descendants.

JoAnn Goodacre

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BOUNDS - COLE CONNECTIONS

By Cynthia Johnson <alana@lee.1stnet.com>

My mother is Foy Madine Hardin Moore Mueller and Steve Harvey Moore. She divorced and remarried to Robert T. Mueller. My grandparents were Alvin Annie Hardin and Sybil Jones Hardin (both now deceased). Alvin Annie Hardin was the son of William Calvin Hardin and Annie Elizabeth Eller. Annie Elizabeth Eller was the daughter of Charles Holbert Eller (a twin) and Martha Jane Snow. Charles Holbert Eller's parents were Elenor Cole and James Madison Eller. Elenor Cole's mother was Hannah Allison Cole, the famous pioneer mother of Boonville, MO. Elenor Cole's father was William Temple Cole. William Temple Cole's father was William Temple Cole (senior). I reckon they didn't have a lot of imagination!!! Seems like everyone is named after someone else.

William Temple Cole, Sr. is supposedly have been married to a Nellie Bounds. Both William Temple Cole, Jr. and Stephen Cole named a daughter Nellie.

I have several of my grandma's records. An entry states that maybe Nellie was married to W.T. Coles brother, Stephen Cole. It states that a Stephen Cole and his wife, Elener, of Mecklinburg CO, North Carolina sold land to a John Bounds of Anson Co.,N.C. and was witnessed by James Bounds, Sr. and John Cole. The author of this entry states that a Margery Bounds married Peter Van Bebber, Jr. in 1756. Peter's father had land on the Pigg River near Stephen Cole, James Cole, John Cole, and Mark Cole. Also stated is that Margery's daughter, Olive, married Nathan Boone. If Elener, who married Stephen Cole was her sister, her children would be cousins to Daniel Boone. There are several other records found of Stephen and Elenor.

All my life my grandparents told me that we were distantly related to Daniel Boone. My son is researching and creating projects about the life of Daniel Boone (since I opened by big mouth and told him what I'd always been told!) for a social studies project at school. In this family record several times Daniel Boone is mentioned. W.T. Cole came to MO. with Daniel Boone and Nathan Boone to Boone's Lick in 1804. A Samuel Cole, youngest son of W.T. and Hannah Cole was interviewed several times and stated that on their first winter of arrival in Mo.

Daniel came to seem them on his way home to Nathan's. Samuel stated, "He had been at the mouth of the Lamine River trapping and hunting. He had caught two beavers. There skins were worth $9.00 each, He was a cousin of my father (William Temple Cole). I knew him well, and saw him a great deal while we were in Osage Country. He was afflicted with rheumatism and would ask me (I was about eight tears old), to rub his back, which I always did. This hunting and trapping expedition to the mouth of the Lamine was the last that the old man ever took."

A James Cole related that he went with Col. Daniel Boone in 1811 to hunt and trap at the mouth of the Big and Little Piney Rivers. James was to carry the traps. Boone was providing sustenance to the workers at the salt licks (Isaac Van Bibber, Stephen Cole, and Thomas Massey).

In 1815, Hannah Cole and her family (W. T. Cole was killed by Indians) lived on Nathan Boone's farm and raised a crop there to recoup from the disasters of the war. They moved there just before James Calloway was killed and before the attack on the Ramsey family. Evidently, Booneville, MO. was named to Reuben Boone, cousin of Daniel Boone. Maybe there is another connection to the Cole-Bounds line. I haven't seen any information about the descendants of Reuben Boone.

I also see that James Hill Bunce (Cole des., born in 1887) married a Nellie Boone.

Cynthia K. Johnson

1109 Barham Road

Hornbeck, La. 71439

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QUERIES

From Steve Smith <bgood@internet.net>

Louisa Ann VAN BEBBER/WAGLEY was the daughter of Isaac VAN BEBBER, Sr., Esquire and Mary MARTIN. Mary MARTIN was the daughter of Salathiel MARTIN and Mary COOK. Salathiel MARTIN was a Captain in Rev. War and married Mary COOK in SURRY Co., N.C. They moved to CLAIBORNE County, Tennessee about 1795.Mary drew pension off Salathiel. He died about 1826. She died 1858, both in CLAIBORNE County, TN. Isaac VAN BEBBER, Sr., Esquire was the son of John VAN BEBBER, Sr., Esquire and Margaret CHRISMAN. Margaret CHRISMAN was the oldest daughter of Isaac CHRISMAN, Sr. and Jean/Jenny SCOTT from RUSSELL/LEE County, VA. Isaac CHRISMAN was massacred by Indians in WASHINGTON County (later RUSSELL) at around 1776 (all this from memory). Jean/Jenny later married Nathaniel HIX of LEE county, VA.

This county joins CLAIBORNE County to the Northeast. John VAN BEBBER, Sr., Esquire was the son of Isaac VAN BIBBER, I., and Sarah DAVIS. John VAN BEBBER, Sr. was born about 1765 and died in 1818. Isaac VAN BIBBER, I., was killed in the Battle of Point Pleasant on Oct 10, 1774 in what is now Point Pleasant, Mason County, WV. Lord Dunmore's War and now considered the first battle of the Revolution. The fight was against the Indians led by Chief Cornstalk. Isaac VAN BIBBER, I., of course was the brother of Peter VAN BIBBER, II., and John VAN BIBBER who also fought in this battle. Isaac VAN BIBBER, Sr., Esquire was born April 30, 1790 in what is now LEE County, Virginia. He moved to CLAIBORNE County in 1796 with father and mother. He married Mary MARTIN about 1816-1817. They had children: James Claiborne VAN BEBBER, John M. VAN BEBBER, Nancy Malinda VAN BEBBER, Martha Elizabeth VAN BEBBER, Louisa Ann VAN BEBBER, Healen Barthena Minerva VAN BEBBER, Isaac Crisman "Christopher" VAN BEBBER. Mary MARTIN/VAN BEBBER died in the mid 1830's and Isaac VAN BEBBER, Sr. married Sarah Parker HAMILTON in 1839. They had one child, Margaret Jane VAN BEBBER, that died in her teen years. Isaac and Sarah died in 1866 in CLAIBORNE County.

Steve Smith

From Bruce Logan <blogan@zoomnet.net>

(I got this message after I asked for more information. The article he wrote on the Wagley - Van Bibber line noted they married in Claiborne Co.,IN, however, I think he must have meant Tennessee. There is no Claiborne Co., IN.

Do you know anything about this family? If so you might want to contact Dick Adams at the rwadams@accessone.com address. I think he might need more information that he had listed at his site, but as you can see he did give me another address.)

Bruce From: Dick Adams <rwadams@accessone.com>

To: Bruce Logan <blogan@zoomnet.net>

Cc: CVGB15A@prodigy.com

Subject: WAGLEY-VAN BIBBER History

Date: Sunday, October 06, 1996 4:58 PM

At 03:39 PM 10/6/96 -0400, you wrote:

Dick,

While going through your Web site I found a possible connection. I noticed you had a Van Bibber line; ie., John Wagley m. (2) Louisa Ann Van Bibber. I do not know her parents and I was hoping you might have something on her family. I suspect that she might be related to Peter Van Bibber and Sarah Yokum of Ripley Co., IN. I do not know enough about the geography of the area to say how close Clairborne and Ripley counties are, but that is one possibility. Any information on her parents will be helpful.

Reply from Dick: My records don't list her parents, but you might contact the following

researcher, who has more extensive WAGLEY information than I do:

Dinah W. Redford

8705 Versailles

Bakersfield, CA 93311

E-mail: CVGB15A@prodigy.com

Good hunting!

Dick Adams

P.S. If you're from this line, would it be possible to get a GEDCOM of line's descendants?

Dick Adams

World Wide Web: http://www.accessone.com/~rwadams

Bruce Logan

From Walter O. Van Bibber < walter.o.vanbibber@lmco.com

I have been wondering about the history of a Park and Mountain stream in North Denver named Van Bibber Park. I have asked the Colorado Historical society about the park and who it was named after, and they do not have any information on the person or family. Does anyone on the Van Bibber Newsletter know of the history of Van Bibber name for this Park and mountain stream? It is located in Jefferson County in Colorado. Was there a prominent Van Bibber family in the area years ago?

I would appreciate any information the readers can provide.

Walt Van Bibber

By Bruce Logan <blogan@zoomnet.net>

I found the following in a listing of the Spring Hill Cemetery, Charleston, WV. Does this person descend from the Van Bibber family?

Henry William Reynolds, son of Van Bibber and Elizabeth Reynolds, 15 Sept. 1830 - 6 Feb. 1906. "Here Lies an Honest Man"

Bruce Logan

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