John Guthrie & Jane Reed

John GUTHRIE & Jane REED

Husband John GUTHRIE ¹ ^,2
       Born: Abt 1725                at: Londonderry, Ireland ¹^,2
 Christened:                         at: 
       Died: Abt 1797                at: Westmoreland Co, Pa ¹^,2
     Buried:                         at: 
    Married:                           Place: Londonderry, Ireland ¹^,2
Other Spouse: Mary SIMPSON            Date: 
Wife Jane REED ¹ ^,2
       Born:                         at: 
 Christened:                         at: 
       Died: Abt 1785                at: Westmoreland Co, Pa ²⁶^,27
     Buried:                         at: 
Children
1 M Capt John "Jack" GUTHRIE ¹ ^,2
       Born: Abt 1752                at: Londonderry, Ireland ¹^,2
 Christened:                         at: 
       Died: 1805                    at: Kentucky ²⁶^,27
     Buried:                         at: 
Spouse: Mary IRWIN Marr: Bef 1791
2 F Elizabeth GUTHRIE
       Born: 1755                    at: Londonberry, Ireland ¹^,2
 Christened:                         at: 
       Died: 11 Feb 1842             at: Redbank Twp, Armstrong Co, Pa ⁷¹^,72
     Buried:                         at: 
Spouse: Joseph BROWNLEE Marr: Abt 1775 Spouse: Capt William GUTHRIE ¹^,2 Marr: Abt 7 Jul 1784 ¹^,2
3 F Sarah "Sally" GUTHRIE ¹ ^,2
       Born: 12 Aug 1763             at: Londonderry, Ireland ¹^,2
 Christened:                         at: 
       Died: 1849 ²⁶^,27 at: 
     Buried:                         at: 
Spouse: William BEATTY Marr: 8 Jul 1783, Pennsylvania
4 F Jane GUTHRIE
       Born: Abt 1765                at: Londonderry, Ireland ¹^,2
 Christened:                         at: 
       Died: Abt 1853 ²⁶^,27 at: 
     Buried:                         at: 
Spouse: John BEATTY
5 M James GUTHRIE ¹ ^,2
       Born: Abt 1770                at: Londonderry, Ireland ¹^,2
 Christened:                         at: 
       Died: 16 Dec 1848 ¹^,2 at: 
     Buried:                         at: 
Spouse: Margaret DIXON Marr: 15 Jan 1796 ⁷⁸^,79
6 F Nancy GUTHRIE
       Born: Abt 1775                at: Westmoreland Co, Pa ¹^,2
 Christened:                         at: 
       Died: After 1862 ²⁶^,27 at: 
     Buried:                         at: 
Spouse: James PORTERFIELD Marr: Westmoreland Co, Pa ¹^,2
7 M William GUTHRIE ¹ ^,2
       Born: Jul 1777                at: Westmoreland Co, Pa ¹^,2
 Christened:                         at: 
       Died: 1865 ²⁶^,27 at: 
     Buried:                         at: 
Spouse: Agnes "Nancy" DIXON Marr: 1803 ¹^,2 Spouse: Mary HILL Marr: 1808 ¹^,2

Husband's Notes
>Birth note: between 1720 and 1729

John Guthrie was born in or near the city of Londonderry, Ireland, in the 1720's. He married there Jane Reed. They came to America around 1771 with the first five of their surviving children, all born in Londonderry. Within a year after their arrival they had located "beyond the frontiers" in what is now northwestern Westmoreland Co., Pa., where their last two children, Nancy and William, were born.
Jane did not live long on the new frontier, as she died in the mid 1780's. John married a second time to Mary Simpson Wallace, the widow of Richard Wallace. Richard had been the quartermaster during the ill-fated Lochry expedition of 1781.
According to a tradition of descendants, the Guthries were originally from Forfarshire, Scotland, anciently known as Forfar. It is located in the southerly part of the Highlands near the east coast. Squire Guthrie is the first of the name on record in Scotland, appearing in 1299. In this same year, the Laird of Guthrie was sent to France to invite Sir William Wallace (Braveheart) to return to Scotland, which he did.
It appears that the family got the Baronly of Guthrie by charter from David II. In 1446 Alexander Guthrie acquired the lands of Kincladrum and became baillie of Forfar. In 1457 Sir David Guthrie was armour bearer to the king and captain of the guard, in 1461 was appointed Lord Treasurer of Scotland, and in 1472 was appointed Lord Chief Justice of Scotland. In 1468 he obtained a charter granted by King James III to build a castle at Guthrie, near Forfar, in Angus, which is still standing, and until very recently was the residence of the chiefs. Opposite the entrance of the Guthrie Castle is the old collegiate church established by David Guthrie. The estate of Guthrie passed through cousins until John Guthrie, Bishop of Moray, became chief in 1636. He was the elventh chief, the present [1998] chief lives in England.
Guthries were religious leaders in the time of Martin Luther, and champions of Presbyterianism against the Roman Church, ready to back up their beliefs with their lives. James "The Martyr" Guthrie was executed for his beliefs in Edinburgh in 1661, and referred to by Oliver Cromwell as "the little man who refused to kneel."
John Guthrie's ancestry is said to run back to the Laird of Pitfrothy, who was a brother of the Laird of the ancient House of Guthrie, and was therefor a descendant of the Guthries of that ilk. The Laird of Pitfrothy married a daughter of the House of Easter Ogle and five sons were born to them, all of whom became ministers of the gospel, noted for their piety and their attachment to the cause of Presbytery. William, the eldest, was the heir according to law and custom of the paternal estate, but that he might be free from the encumberance of worldly affairs he made over his inheritance to the one brother of the five who did not obtain the charge of any particular parish. William studied at St. Andrew's, completing his course in philosophy under his cousin, James Guthrie, who later obtained the Martyr's crown on account of his writings and his unyielding adherence to the Covenants. William lodged in the same room with his cousin and doubtless imbibed from him much of that noble and devoted spirit which made James a marked man. William Guthrie's theology was studied under the direction of Mr. Samuel Rutherford, at that time one of the outrstanding leaders of the Covenanting party. "Then and there", says Mr. Traill, "it pleased God to call him by His grace, by the ministry of that excellent person." Soon after the completion of his course at St. Andrew's, William received a call to the parish of Fenwick, near Kilmarnock, in Ayrshire. He was greatly exercised in regard to accepting it, but became convinced by its clear insistence that it was of Divine origin. He accepted it, was ordained and installed under the most impressive circumstances and began a career in the humble earthen-floored church of Fenwick which is absolutely unique in the annals of the churches of Scotland. Such was his learning, piety and zeal that many families, some of them coming at great sacrifice, moved into his parish that they might sit under his blessed ministry. In 1664, the despotic Prelatic party sent a groveling henchman accompanied by armed men and deposed him from his church. He yielded after solemnly warning the prelate and the soldiers of the seriousness of their offense in interfering with the ministry to which God had called him. He remained in Fenwick for a few months thereafter, and then, the brother having died to who he made over the paternal estate, he returned to Angus (Forfarshire), where he died of gravel in 1665. He lies buried beneath the pews assigned to Pitfrothy in the church of Brechin. He was in his forty-fifth year.
William Guthrie married Agnes Campbell, a daughter of David Campbell. To them were born six children, but as only two daughters survived him, it seems extremely unlikely that he had any male descendants to perpetuate his name. Of the three remaining brothers, all suffered severe persecution. One is said to have fled to England. Of the remaining two nothing definite is known. One or both may have fled or been banished to Ireland. It is no doubt true that the subject of this sketch was a descendant of one of these brothers, who went to Londonderry about 1665.
John Guthrie was a Covenanter of the strictest kind and reared his family in that faith. He brought with him to America a copy of Rev. William Guthrie's famous treatise, "The Christian's Great Interest", and several of his other writings and other religious books. John Guthrie was one the early members of the Poke Run Presbyterian Church in Westmoreland Co., Pa. Both John Guthry, Sr., and John Guthry, Jr., signed a paper in March, 1790, stating that they were members of the church and promised to help pay for the services of Rev. Samuel Porter in both hard money and country produce.
John was a veteran of the Revolutionary War. His name is listed in the DAR Lineage book. He was also an early Justice of the Peace and a patriotic citizen. He died in 1797 and is buried in the Poke Run Church Cemetery.
Wife's Notes
Her name has been given as 'Mary Jane' in "American Guthries and Allied Families" by Laurence Guthrie, 1933, and this has come to be almost universally accepted. I submit that her name is instead simply Jane. In Guthrie's appendix, he admits that he has invented the name Mary Jane - note 415, page 715, "Some descendants give her name as Jane; records, as Mary; both should be satisfied with Mary Jane". Except that Guthrie did not apparently consider the possibility that there were two different wives being referred to. In "The Beatty Book" by Lu Ann Kennedy Cherry (176 Thorn Run Rd, Butler, Pa 16001), she claims that John's first wife died in the early 1780's, and that he remarried with Mary Simpson Wallace, the widow of Richard Wallace, Quartermaster of the ill-fated Lochry Expedition who was killed in 1781. She would be the Mary of the records. Guthrie mentions in appendix note 416, page 716, from John Guthrie's will, "I, John Guthrie...have granted unto my wife, Mary Guthrie...all benefits arising from the estate of Richard Wallace, deceased, to which I am entitled..."

[Brian Cartwright 6 Apr 1998]
Marriage Notes
EMIG
DATE 1771
PLAC Londonderry, Ireland to northwestern Westmoreland Co., PA
QUAY 0
NOTE They located in Westmoreland Co. within a year of their departure from
CONC Londonderry, Ireland.
source: American Guthrie and Allied Families
Notes for Child: Capt John "Jack" GUTHRIE
John Guthrie, son of John and Jane (Reed) Guthrie, married Mary (Irwin) Lochry. She was the daughter of Captain Joseph Irwin. Mary was first married to Colonel Archibald Lochry, leader of the Lochry Expedition. It is noted that John "Jack" Guthrie was elected Captain of one of the companies organized by the white settlers in Westmoreland County, Pa., for protection against the Indians. He entered the regular service when Capt. Matthew Jack entered in the service. Jack became a famous Indian Scout. He was an astute woodsman, skilled in Indian warfare, a patriot in the Revolution and a frontier ranger. He was in Lochry's defeat, General St. Clair's defeat and was frequently engaged on the frontier before Wayne's treaty. His oldest son, John, stated in the estate papers of his father, recorded in Westmoreland County, that his father had gone to Kentucky to search for Government land for the family. He took sick and died there. John died without a will around 1805 leaving eight children. In his estate papers, he is referred to as Capt. John Guthrie. His fourteen year old son, John, petitioned the courts for a guardian, while William Guthrie petitioned the courts for guardians of the remaining four children under age.
Notes for Child: Elizabeth GUTHRIE
Elizabeth gives an account of the burning of Hannastown, July 13, 1792, and her experiences as a captive in her petition to the PA State Legislature. PP410

AMERICAN GUTHRIES AND ALLIED FAMILIES
Notes for Child: Sarah "Sally" GUTHRIE
Children of William Beatty and Sarah Guthrie are:
6. i. JANE3 BEATTY, b. May 13, 1784; d. October 09, 1854.
7. ii. SAMUEL BEATTY, b. January 08, 1786.
8. iii. AGNES BEATTY, b. May 04, 1788; d. 1856.
9. iv. JOHN BEATTY, b. May 24, 1790; d. July 09, 1849.
10. v. WILLIAM BEATTY, JR., b. July 24, 1792; d. April 04, 1818.
11. vi. SARAH BEATTY, b. April 03, 1794.
12. vii. JAMES BEATTY, b. August 09, 1796; d. November 05, 1876.
viii. ROBERT BEATTY, b. April 03, 1799; d. Died young.
ix. DAVID BEATTY, b. March 1801; d. Died in infancy.
13. x. MARGARET BEATTY, b. June 09, 1803; d. August 06, 1833.
14. xi. DAVID BEATTY II, b. September 20, 1806; d. 1879, W/P. September
5,
1879 Will on file.
Source: Beatty 2000 project line 142

Children of William Beatty and Sarah Guthrie are:
85i.Jane Beatty, born May 13, 1784 in Prob. Westmoreland, PA; died
October 10, 1854 in Slate Lick Cemetery, Armstrong, PA; married William
Hesselgesser or Hetsilgesser August 25, 1805 in prob. Westmoreland, PA.
Notes for Child: James GUTHRIE
"He settled in 1796 in what became Armstrong County, being then a part of Westmoreland County, purchasing a farm of three hundred acres from the heirs of William Penn, the receipt given them being in the hands of William G. Guthrie, a descendants at last account.
"James Guthrie was in active service in the War of 1812 and in later lfie received a pension. In politics, he was a staunch Whig. He was an influential member and a ruling elder of the old Saltsburg Presbyterian Church."
Notes for Child: William GUTHRIE
"...bought the interests of the other heirs in his fathers homestead and lived on it all his life...The old stone house in which they lived on Beaver Run, Westmoreland County, Pa., is still standing. [1934]"
Home | Table of Contents | Surnames | Name List

This Web Site was Created 29 Jun 2001 with Legacy 3.0 from Millennia