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BRICK WALLS IN MY LINGNER FAMILY RESEARCH
(MEINE TOTEN PUNKTE)

Ancestors' SurnamesIn many cases the questions posed below haven't yet been actively researched. Originally, much of my knowledge of my mother's relatives was anecdotal. However, church records (5 villages so far) and published Familienbücher (Grosslasseln & Halvelagen) have confirmed and supplemented that information. Because the Saxons were a minority and a distinct society in Siebenbürgen (in religion, language and customs), there was a lot of intermarriage within the group.

For each surname, information on locations, related surnames and key sources is provided, if available. Details concerning referenced individuals will include relationships, locations, etc. "?" indicates an unresolved question or research hypothesis. Among what I am missing is information on recent generations (especially the more distant relatives) and data from other villages.

LINGNER / LINCKNER (Hones) GÜNTHER HARTMANN HELGY / HELCH
MARTINI LINGNER / LINCKNER (Hones) LINGNER / LINKNER / LINCKNER (Andreas) LINGNER (Michael)
SCHUSTER ? <SCHUSTER> GREGER / GRÖGER ? <GREGER>
HENNING BÄR / BEER THELLMANN / THELMANN / THELLMAN ? <THELLMANN>

LINGNER / LINCKNER (Hones)

? Stephan Lingner (b. 1866), brother of my greatgrandfather, lived in Groß Alisch and had at least 2 sons. Who did he marry and where are his descendants?
? Some of the descendents of Anna LINGNER and Andreas KRAFT were living in Chicago IL. Who are they and where are they now? 
Update (Jan 2009): One of their children, Andreas Johann Krafft, born Jan 19,1902 in Dunesdorf, died Dec 13, 1978 in Millbrook IL. His wife Mary Hoprich, born Jan 18, 1901 in Grossau, Siebenbürgen, died Dec 07, 1988 Millbrook IL. Both are buried in Cross Ev. Lutheran Cemetery, Yorkville IL. He came to New Castle PA in Dec 1920 and she arrived Jan 1921. They married in New Castle PA abt Feb 1923. A son Richard M. Krafft, born/died Mar 03, 1933, is buried with them in Yorkville. Anecdotally, the couple had 5 children. 
? How are the other SCHIEB families in Kreisch related to this line?
 

GÜNTHER

? When was Sara born and what was her mother's name? Did she have siblings?
? Anecdotally, the GUENTHER family of Chicago (and California) is related through this line as well as by marriage. Can this be confirmed?
? Can the church registers for Halvelagen be accessed in any way? Does the 1998 book "Halvelagen: wo ich zu Hause war: Heimatbuch einer siebenbürgischen Gemeinde" include information on the GÜNTHER family?  Update (2005): The book only includes families living in Halvelagen in 1945, and so does not provide the link to previous generations nor to those who emigrated before World War II.
 

HARTMANN

? When was Michael born and who were his parents? Did he have other siblings? When did he die?
? Michael and his wife Elisabeth (Helgy) had at least 11 children. Were there other children (including another, eldest, daughter, Elisabeth)? 
? Of the 6 children who did not die early, only 2 are known to have married. Did Michael HARTMANN (1816-?) and his wife Sara STENNER have children? What about the other siblings Martin (1817-?), Georgius (1822-1877), Sara (1831-?) and Johann (1834-1880)?
? How are the other HARTMANN families in Kreisch related to this line?
 

HELGY / HELCH

? There are 3 possible Andreas in the Peschendorf Births register that could be my ancestor, with fathers named Andreas (2) and Martin. Can it be resolved which Andreas HELGY is my ancestor?
? When was Elisabeth born and what was her mother's name? Did she have other siblings besides Anna? When did she die?
? Anna married Georg GIERLING of Kreisch and had at least 2 children: Georg and Martin. Were there other children and other descendents?
? HELCH was a common surname in Peschendorf. How are the various HELCH families related to each other and to my line?
 

MARTINI

? Simon MARTINI was "Incola Schäßburgensis": are there are Schäßburg documents that mention him or his family? Were there other children? Who was his wife?
? 5th great-grandfather Martin MARTINI is also referred to as Simon MARTINI in a couple of records. Is it possible that the Simon MARTINI references are to someone else?
? Several daughters over the generations drop out of the Dunesdorf records. This probably means they married into another village. Where did Sara MARTINI (b. 1790) and Catharina MARTINI (b. 1828) go and did they have descendents? Update (2005): According to the Familienbuch Grosslasseln, Catharina MARTINI (1828-1873) married Michael ZENN in Grosslasseln (family <2073>) and had 7 children, of whom 2 had further descendents.
? Are some of the MARTINI families of Großlasseln descendents of Michael MARTINI (b. 1765) and Sara SCHOTSCH? Update (2005): According to the Familienbuch Grosslasseln, there have been 9 different lines of Martinis in Grosslasseln. This couple is not among them because they were childless (reference family <1399>).
? Great-great-grandfather Martin MARTINI (1855-1917) remarried after Sara Rosina LINGNER (1857-1891) died. He and Amalia JICHA (1870-1894) of Alzen had a son Rudolph (b. 1892) who was a cooper in Birthälm. Who are his descendents?
? Great-great-grandfather Martin MARTINI (1855-1917) went to the USA with his 4 sons from his first marriage. The 1910 federal census for Ellwood Ward 3, Lawrence, Pennsylvania notes his marital status as "M3". Did he really marry a 3rd time? Who was she and what happened to her (he was a boarder in 1910)?
 

LINGNER / LINCKNER (Hones)

?  Katharina's father, Johannes ARNDT, married Catharina THALLMEN in Grosslasseln 1797. However his parentage is not given. Where was he born and who were his parents? 
Clues: (1) The ARNDT surname was prevalent in Rode (according to "Die Siebenbürgisch- Sächsischen Familien-Namen", Fritz Keintzel-Schön) [A-B] (2) My mother was absolutely certain that she was sent to Rode to get information on a LINGNER ancestor when she had to have an Ahnenpass prepared in order to go to Germany. (3) No LINGNER connection to Rode has been found. Interesting speculation: Could the Rode ancestor have been an ARNDT?
 

LINGNER / LINKNER / LINCKNER (Andreas)

? Is there a connection between Andreas LINCKNER (b. abt 1706) and Hones LINCKNER (b. abt 1712)?
? When and where did Johann LINGNER (b. 1800) die?
? Johann LINGNER (b. 1853, son  of Johann LINGNER and Catharina LINGNER), went to the USA with his family in 1897. They returned to Dunesdorf in 1907 after his death. When and where did he die (1902-1906, perhaps in Homestead PA)?
 

LINGNER (Michael)

? Although Familienbuch Großlasseln lists 2 LINGNER families that moved to Halvelagen in the mid 1800s, the Familienverzeichnis Halvelagen does not include the linking generation. What are the relationships of the LINGNER families in Halvelagen in the early 1900s to the individuals from Großlasseln?
?  
 

SCHUSTER

? Who were the parents of Michael SCHUSTER (b. 1851)? Did he have siblings?
? Family legend is that Michael SCHUSTER (b. 1761) married a wealthy woman who had been housekeeper for a pastor at some time. Who was his wife and where did she come from? Why and when did the family move from Nadesch to Kreisch (1790-1810)? 
? Although 4 of the children of Michael SCHUSTER (b. 1761) appear in the Kreisch Church Registers (Elisabetha, Catharina, Johannes, Georgius), there is no specific mention of a son Michael. Did he exist? Did he die young or stay in Nadesch?
? How are the other SCHUSTER families in Kreisch related to this line?
 

? <SCHUSTER>

? Possibilities for answer: from Kreisch registers not microfilmed, Ahnenpass of another descendent, tombstone in Kreisch cemetery
 

GREGER / GRÖGER

? Can it be resolved which Johann GREGER is my ancestor?
 

?<GREGER>

? Since her oldest daughter was named Sara, she was probably also named Sara. Can this be confirmed?
? When and where was she born and what were her parent's names? Did she have other siblings? When did she die?
 

HENNING

? Did Johann HENNING (b. 1818) have other siblings? Are there descendants?
? How are the other HENNING families in Kreisch related to this line?
 

BÄR / BEER

? Are church records from Rauthal available or transcribed? (not listed at FamilySearch)
 

THELLMANN / THELMANN / THELLMAN

? Family legend is that a THELLMANN ancestor was brought from Holland by the Bethlen family to be a retainer. Johann THELLMANN (b. 1761) and both his sons were tailors for the Counts.  Are there any records remaining that might shed some light on earlier generations?
? How are the other THELLMANN families in Kreisch and Peschendorf related to this line?
 

? <THELLMANN>

? Possibilities for answer: from Kreisch registers not microfilmed, Ahnenpass of another descendent, tombstone in Kreisch cemetery

 

General Questions

? 107 sets of twins are recorded in my maternal family database (as of October 2008), ranging in birthdate from 1720 to 1984. This number represents a frequency close to the 1% average rate of twinning in humans. Given that there are gaps in the records and these families are interrelated in many ways, is there some method that can be used to determine whether a particular lineage was more likely to have twins? What factors should be given more weight?
? The LINGNER / LINCKNER surname originally meant "lefty". Since I am left-handed and so were my mother and LINGNER grandfather, it seems to be a family trait that has held true for a long time. How frequent is left-handedness in Transylvanian Saxons and especially other LINGNER relatives? (Overall frequency is about 5%)
? In the church registers from Saxon villages, immunization is recorded with the baptisms or in a separate immunization section. Date, name of person giving the immunization and a clerical witness seem to be required information. I assume the immunization was for smallpox. Was this immunization a government requirement? How effective was this measure?

 

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