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Some Bebbs in the Rhondda, Gelli & Treorchy



Interests

I'm interested in: Evan Charles Bebb and Elizabeth (nee James) 11, Victoria
Street, Ton. Daughter Mary, who is thought to have died fairly young in Canada following an automobile accident, leaving a young daughter, and son Elon, born 1898. Anything about these.
Descendants and family of Thomas and Emily Bebb, Maurice Emlyn Bebb, and John Bebb, including those who came from Montgomeryshire. I think Maurice stayed in the Rhondda, but I don't know what happened to John.

Keith Lomas is interested in descendents of William/Sara Bebb of Bwllfa Cottages, Gelly (Rhondda)1890-1900. They came from Aberhafesp/Llanwnog, MGY to the Rhondda.


Rhondda Research specialise in Rhondda Valley family history research. They
can be contacted at GP15@aol.com -Dave Phillips.

The following should not be considered complete lists.

Treorchy Library

Records for Treorchy and nearby Penrhys Cemetery are held in Treorchy Library,
which has lots of useful local information: 01443 773204.

Treorchy Cemetery

(The Sexton,
Treorchy Cemetery, Cemetery Lodge, Cemetery Road, Treorchy, Rhondda, Mid
Glam.  CF42 6TB  Telephone: (01443) 772336.)

Interrment No.  33869
Thomas BEBB, Miner aged 66 of 213 Gelli Road.  buried 21st June 1928.
Ceremony performed by H. Moulton.  Place of Burial Treorchy.  No. of Grave E
1/42 uncon.  The grave was re-opened.  177

Gwenllian Bebb, wife of Thomas BEBB, collier, of 23 Incline Row, Ton.
41 years. died 12th April 1903.  Buried 16th April 1903 at 4:15 pm.
Rev. D.G. Morris (I think) officiated.  Plot E 1/42.  9ft. uncom. common.
Purchaser Select.  Signed by Thomas BEBB collier.

There was a Joseph Bebb aged 84 years a pensioner of 9 Horeb St. Treorchy who
was buried 19th Nov 1953 Plot No. V 7/21  His interrment No. is 47493

Hannah Maria BEBB  wife of Richard BEBB  53 years, died at Llwynypia Hospital
buried on 18th March 1957.  Plot M 709  uncon.  Interr.  49027

Ann BEBB, widow, of 10 Dinam Park Avenue Ton-Pentre.  84 yrs. d. 4 Feb. 1950
bur 8th Feb. 1950.  Plot No. E 5/43.  Purchased 29th July 1899.  re-opened.
Interr:  45543

Elizabeth BEBB d. of William BEBB 11 Incline Row Ton-Pentre labourer, 2
months. died 28th July 1899.  Bur. Monday 31st July 1899. 4.15 pm.  Plot E
5/43  Interr: 14502.

Penrhys Cemetery

David Jones gave me some references to Bebb burials in Penrhys Cemetery, one of four (I think) in the valley. Apart from Treorchy, I don't know the others.David has a web site with an index of Penrhys burials, which is very useful, and other Rhondda information.

Burial Number Surname Given Names Age Plot Number Year Buried
4904   Bebb   Elizabeth           49       E4      1952
5703   Bebb   Emily               78       E609    1957
1044   Bebb   Ernest Hayden       32       D575    1935
4767   Bebb   Mary Hannah         84       D575    1951
1912   Bebb   Maurice             79       D575    1940
6583   Bebb   Maurice Emlyn       69       E4      1962
9671   Bebb   Sidney              69       E609    1979

And Maurice Emlyn's daughter:
2607   Puddy  Ceridwen            44       C110    1944
4753   Puddy  Frederick Herbert   54       C110    1951

The plot numbers are interesting, since these represent three Bebb families. Emily and her son Sidney are together, and Maurice Emlyn Bebb and Elizabeth, Finally Maurice, Mary Hannah and Ernest Hayden.

Electoral Rolls 1938-9

11, Oak St. Gelli      (researcher Keith Lomas kgl3324@webtv.net)
BEBB, John
BEBB, Mary Gwen
BEBB, Margaret Olwen
BLAYNEY, James

9, King St. Gelli
BEBB, Annie            (researcher Keith Lomas kgl3324@webtv.net)
BEBB, William

93, Kennard St, Gelli
BEBB, Charles
BEBB, Lyle

22, St. David's St.
BEBB, Maurice
BEBB, Mary Hannah
BEBB, David John

213, Gelli Road,
BEBB, Emily            (researcher Malcolm Bebb)
BEBB, Cyril
BEBB, Sidney
DAVIES, Harry Delwyn
DAVIES, Ethel May

197, Gelli Road
BEBB, William John
BEBB, Doris
LEWIS, John

5, Incline Row, Ton.  (Later renamed Dinam Park Avenue)
BEBB, Maurice Emlyn   (researcher Malcolm Bebb)
BEBB, Elizabeth
PUDDY, Fredk. Herbert
PUDDY, Ceridwen

10, Incline Row, Ton.  (Incline Row crossed out and Dinam Park Avenue
 replaces it)
BEBB, Annie
BEBB, William

41, Bailey Street.
BEBB, Maurice          (researcher Keith Lomas kgl3324@webtv.net)
BEBB, Elizabeth Jane

16, Bailey St.
BEBB, Edward           (researcher Keith Lomas kgl3324@webtv.net)
BEBB, Mary

1926 Kelly's Directory

Bebb  Mary Gwen, Mrs  Midwife,     11 Oak Street  (Keith Lomas)
Bebb  Emily,     Mrs, Shopkeeper, 213 Gelli Road  (Malcolm Bebb)

School Records

Ton Boys School 1880-92
No.         Name        Dob         Add             Father
4352        William     15/9/1878   Ystrad Rd       William
4419        John        30/5/1880   164 Ystrad Rd   William
4994        Morris      14/2/1885   Bwllfa Cottages     "

Ton Boys    1892-1908
5436    Thomas          6/7/1887    4 Incline Row   Morris
5580    Edward          23/4/1889   4 Bwllfa Cot    William
6014    Thomas Charles  29/4/1889   4 Incline       Maurice
6315    David Jno       29/6/1896   "               Richard
6617    Thomas Jno      18/9/1899   12 Incline      John
6703    Edward William  7/7/1900    10 Incline      William
6780    Ernest          26/6/1901   4 Incline       Richard

1903-1921 Boys + Girls
1       David John      2/7/1891    4 Incline Row   Maurice
215     Thomas John     24/9/1899  12 Incline Row   John
304     Ernest Haydn    26/6/1901   4 Incline Row   Richard
606     Abraham         7/9/1902   10 Incline Row   William
775     Charles         25/2/1905   12 Incline Row  John
885     Thomas E.       4/5/1906    213 Gelli Rd    Thomas
1350    Cyril           1/4/1910    "               "
1351    Sydney          "           "               "

Boys + Girls 1921-33
271     William John    13/6/1918   41 Bailey St    Maurice


Ton Girls 1893-1911
2735    Maria           28/6/1897   10 Incline Row  William
2828    Ceridwen        2/1/1899    4 Incline Row   Maurice
1664    Edith           27/6/1887   11 Incline Row  William
1685    Ellen           16/6/1887   4 Bwllfa Cot        "
1971    Mary Jane       17/7/1890   12 Gelli Rd     John
1981    Jennet          3/9/1890    4 Incline Row   Maurice
2096    Mary            6/7/1891    4 Bwllfa        William
2109    Sarah Jane      19/6/1891   11 Incline Row    "
2160    Edith           23/10/1892  12 Incline Row  John
2289    Agnes           1/7/1893    11 Incline Row  William
2512    Mary E.         19/2/1896   11 Victoria St  Evan C.
2584    Amelia          20/2/1897   12 Incline Row  John
2616    Beatrice A.     29/6/1896   4 Incline Row   Maurice
2637    Gladys          7/2/1896    10 Incline Row  William


Girls   1929-41

5284    Enid Griffiths  9/9/1925    16 Bailey St.   Edward
5769    Norah           11/3/1932   197 Gelli Rd
                                   /10 Parrry St  William John
5770    Pat Elizabeth   27/6/1931   5 Incline          Maurice

213 Gelli Road are my family, as are at least some of 4, Incline Row (Maurice). Ceridwen apparently married Frederick Puddy, but died around th eage of 44 and is buried in Penrhys cemetery. I don't know of any children, although there is a 1957 reference to Ceridwen with George and Boys (Rhondda Leader).
Ernest Haydn died at No 22, St. David's St. Ton- Pentre on January 21, 1935, although I don't know the reason (ref in Other Bebbs page).
William John's family were still living in the Rhondda around 1951. He is here both as a scholar and a father, assuming it's the same one.


This is the above table, reworked into address/father and age order and thereby grouped into families, on a best guess basis.

Name Dob Y DoB Address Father School  
Thomas 1887 6/7/1887 4 Incline Row Morris Ton Boys 1892-1908  
Jennet 1890 3/9/1890 4 Incline Row Maurice Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Beatrice A. 1896 29/6/1896 4 Incline Row Maurice Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Thomas Charles 1889 29/4/1889 4 Incline Row Maurice Ton Boys 1892-1908  
David John 1891 2/7/1891 4 Incline Row Maurice 1903-1921 Boys + Girls  
Ceridwen 1899 2/1/1899 4 Incline Row Maurice Ton Girls 1893-1911  
             
David Jno 1896 29/6/1896 4 Incline Row Richard Ton Boys 1892-1908  
Ernest 1901 26/06/1901 4 Incline Row Richard Ton Boys 1892-1908  
Ernest Haydn 1901 26/06/1901 4 Incline Row Richard 1903-1921 Boys + Girls  
             
Edith 1887 27/6/1887 11 Incline Row William Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Sarah Jane 1891 19/6/1891 11 Incline Row William Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Agnes 1893 1/7/1893 11 Incline Row William Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Gladys 1896 7/2/1896 10 Incline Row William Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Maria 1897 28/6/1897 10 Incline Row William Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Edward William 1900 07/07/1900 10 Incline Row William Ton Boys 1892-1908  
Abraham 1902 07/09/1902 10 Incline Row William 1903-1921 Boys + Girls  
             
Edith 1892 23/10/1892 12 Incline Row John Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Amelia 1897 20/2/1897 12 Incline Row John Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Thomas Jno 1899 18/9/1899 12 Incline Row John Ton Boys 1892-1908  
Thomas John 1899 24/9/1899 12 Incline Row John 1903-1921 Boys + Girls  
Charles 1905 25/02/1905 12 Incline Row John 1903-1921 Boys + Girls  
             
Morris 1885 14/2/1885 Bwllfa Cottages William Ton Boys School 1880-92  
Ellen 1887 16/6/1887 4 Bwllfa Cot William Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Edward 1889 23/4/1889 4 Bwllfa Cot William Ton Boys 1892-1908  
Mary 1891 6/7/1891 4 Bwllfa Cot William Ton Girls 1893-1911  
             
Thomas E. 1906 04/05/1906 213 Gelli Rd Thomas 1903-1921 Boys + Girls  
Cyril 1910 01/04/1910 213 Gelli Rd Thomas 1903-1921 Boys + Girls Twin d. 2003
Sydney 1910 01/04/1910 213 Gelli Rd Thomas 1903-1921 Boys + Girls Twin disabled, leg
             
Mary E. 1896 19/2/1896 11 Victoria St Evan C. Ton Girls 1893-1911 Emigrated Canada
             
John 1880 30/5/1880 164 Ystrad Rd William Ton Boys School 1880-92  
William 1878 15/9/1878 Ystrad Rd William Ton Boys School 1880-92  
             
Norah 1932 11/03/1932 197 Gelli Rd, 10 Parrry St William John Girls 1929-41  
Mary Jane 1890 17/7/1890 12 Gelli Rd John Ton Girls 1893-1911  
Enid Griffiths 1925 09/09/1925 16 Bailey St. Edward Girls 1929-41  
William John 1918 13/06/1918 41 Bailey St Maurice Boys + Girls 1921-33  
Pat Elizabeth 1931 27/06/1931 5 Incline Row Maurice Girls 1929-41  

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