
Johann Friedrich Ephraim Menz c.1837
&
Marie Elisabeth Hante
Generation No. 2
Born: J
OHANN
FRIEDRICH EPHRAIM2 MENZ
(JOHANN GEORGE1)
Known as 'Friedrich'
according to his signature on his marriage certificate.
It is thought Friedrich may have been born in Mecklenburg
Germany about 1837.
Arrival in
Australia: I have not proven this shipping arrival but
the information found leads me to think it is very
possible that Friedrich arrived aboard the
ship "Adolf" (3) on 20th February 1865 his surname being spelt
"Mentz". another passenger on the voyage was a Fritz Mentz.
[Info found : Emigrants Hamburg to
Australia 1860-1869 fich no.1of2]
Marriage: Johann 'Friedrich' Menz aged 29yrs married
19year old Marie Elisabeth Hante on 9th March 1866 at the
residence of Mr Neuondorf a farmer of Kingsbelt in the
district of Gawler South Australia. George Neuondorf was a
witness.
There is a big
possibility that George Neuondorf (who's grandparents were
George Neuondorf & Catharina Elisabeth Menz) and Johann
'Friedrich's father George Menz were cousins.
Marriage certificate 9th March
1866

Wife Born: MARIA ELISABETH HANTE
is thought to
have been born about 1845 in Prussia (noted on her D/cert)
the daughter of
JOHANN FRIEDRICK/FRED HANDT/HANTE/HUNTER.
No mother known at this point in time.
Shipping: My research has draw a blank for Maria's
arrival.
Death of Fredrick: Fredrick / Friedrich died some time between
his marriage in March 1866 and his wife's remarriage
February 1868.
The only death
registration which fits Friedrich Menz death in SA for
1866-67 is a Fredrick Menz dying at the Adelaide Hospital
South Australia on 25th August 1867. His age noted as
24yrs (too young for my Fredrick). The cause of death
noted as Hepatitis. No other details are given on the
death certificate. But the Adelaide hospital admission
register states this Fredrick was 30year old (this age
now fitting in with his age at marriage.) He was a labourer
who's address at this time had been Lyndoch Valley SA,
religion Protestant, born Mecklenburg Germany, 2years
6months in the colony, But!! states he was
single. I believe this is my great great grandfather and
that the informant knew nothing about the deceased as most
columns on the death certificate were blank. Friedrich is
believed to be buried at West Terrace Cemetery SA.
Death Certificate Friedrick
Menz 25th August 1867

IMPORTANT
NOTE: Information
about Johann Friedrich Ephraim Menz in the SA Biological
Index is incorrect here he is entered with parents
Friedrich Peter Menz & Maria Sophie Beelitz but his father
was Johann George Menz.
Marie Menz Remarries : Johann Gottlieb Schultz
2nd Marriage: Marie Menz aged
21years married 25year old widower Johann
Gottlieb "John George" Schultz on the 20th February
1868 at Lutheren Church Schoenborn SA.
2nd Husband Born: Johann was born 9th
June 1843 at Bethany Sth Aust son of German
Lutherans and early Bethany South Australian settlers
Johann Gottlieb Schultz Snr. & Pauline Kitta who had
arrived in Australia aboard the ship "Skjold".
Marriage
Certificate Marie Elisabeth Menz & Johann Gottlieb Schultz

Johann Gottlieb's 1st
marriage: had been to
Anna Dorethea Nitschke
(b.1845-d.1867
aged 22years possibly in child birth with their child
Annie Martha Schultz born 1867. Anna's parents were Gottlob
Nitschke & Johanne Eleonore Hirte).
Maria and John
George had their first child Maria Lydia before their move to Victoria where they had three more
children, Mary, John & Charles.
The Schultz were farmers in the Moe area of
Gippsland (Latrobe River/Tangil)
Death John George
Schultz:
Johann Gottlieb "John George" died 20th August 1907 at
Elgin Street Sale aged 64years and buried at Sale
Cemetery.
Death Marie Emma Schultz
(formally Menz nee Hante):
Died 30th August 1931 aged 84years and is buried at the
Moe Cemetery.
Information from Marie's death certificate: The informant on
her death certificate her son Albert Schultz stated his
mother was born Prussia had been in Sth Australia 4yrs and
61years in Victoria making her c.19yrs on arrival. She was
19 when she married JFE Menz. But Albert also said she was
married to Menzies?? in Magdenburg Germany, when its a
fact she married Menz 1866 South Australia.
Information
from :
Marriage SA
certificate Johann Friedrich Ephraim Menz & Marie
Elisabeth Hante.
Marriage SA
certificate Marie Elisabeth Menz & Johann Gottlieb Schultz
Birth
certificate of daughter Emma Maria Menz
Death
certificate of Marie Elisabeth Schultz
Death
Certificate of John George Schultz
Adelaide
Hospital admission Friedrick Menz
Death
certificate Friedrick Menz
Birth & Death
certificates of children
Child of Johann Friedrich Ephraim & Marie
Emma Menz
1.
EMMA
MARIA MENZ
(Emma Maria on birth certificate)
(my great grandmother)
was born 18 Jun 1866 in Kingsbelt Sth. Aust.and died 04
Feb 1943 in Drouin Vic (No.5700). She married Thomas
Allan Bruton 12 Jan 1885 in Sale Victoria, son of
THOMAS BRUTON and SELINA BODLEY.
He was born 08 Dec 1862 in Beaumaris Moorabbin Vic, and
died 1911 in Melbourne Hospital Age 49yrs. Family:
Fredrick Thomas, Allan Ephraim, Jessie Mable, Laura "Queenie",
Roland Edward, Hector Rupert, Eric William, Seymour Johann
'Jack".